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Title: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on May 31, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
Markeith Wilson is one at 6'4 playing the 3
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 01, 2011, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: RustCollege on May 31, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
Markeith Wilson is one at 6'4 playing the 3

Never heard of him.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Ethelred the Unready on June 01, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 01, 2011, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: RustCollege on May 31, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
Markeith Wilson is one at 6'4 playing the 3

Never heard of him.

You must be new here......Coach has been plugging his guy for a while now.

I'd say Novosel and DiBartolomeo from Rochester should be in the mix
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Gregory Sager on June 01, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 01, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 01, 2011, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: RustCollege on May 31, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
Markeith Wilson is one at 6'4 playing the 3

Never heard of him.

You must be new here......Coach has been plugging his guy for a while now.

HF is well aware of Markeith Wilson. He was just having a little fun at the expense of Markeith's coach.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: KnightSlappy on June 01, 2011, 01:50:42 PM
A good place to start for these discussions:

All-Americans
G Lamonte Thomas Johnson and Wales Jr. Providence, R.I.
G James Wang Williams Jr. Sydney, Australia
G Trevor Halter Marietta Jr. Malvern, Ohio
F Tim McCrary Wheaton (Ill.) Jr. Wilmette, Ill.
F Ryan Sharry Middlebury Jr. Braintree, Mass.

NE
F Brian Clark Salem State Jr. Deerfield, Mass.
G DaQuan Brooks Western Connecticut Jr.  Atlanta, Ga.
F Ray Askew Albertus Magnus Jr. Hamden, Conn.
F Will Hanley  Bowdoin Jr. New Canaan, Conn.
G Ryan Sheehan Nichols Fr. N. Attleboro, Mass.
F Anthony Click Anna Maria So. Springfield, Mass.
F Javon Williams Lasell Jr. Mattapan, Mass.
G Lance Greene Endicott So. Dorchester, Mass.
F Will Tashman MIT So. Atherton, Calif.

EA
G John Dibartolomeo  Rochester  So.  Westport, Conn.
G Jake Simmons  Buffalo State  So.  Rochester, N.Y.
F Chad Burridge  Oswego State  Jr.  Hannibal, N.Y.
G Sean Rossi  Ithaca  So.  Sparta, N.J.
F  Pat Sullivan  Hamilton  Jr.  Madison, N.J.
F Simon Smith  Stevens  Jr.  Cranford, N.J.
F Terry Harrison Wells Jr.  Brooklyn, N.Y.

AT
Pos. Player School Yr. Hometown
G Asmar Capers Drew Jr. Bridgewater, N.J.
G Ahmad Hassan Ramapo  Jr.  Edgewater, N.J.
G Chris Jimenez St. Joseph's (L.I.) Jr. Huntington Station, N.Y.
G Pedro Burgos Rutgers-Newark Jr. Fort Lee, N.J.
F Andrew August Montclair State Jr. Bridgewater, N.J.

MA
F Spencer Liddic Muhlenberg Jr. Clarks Summit, Pa.
G Georgio Milligan Franklin and Marshall Jr. Spring Valley, N.Y.
G Joe Meehan Lebanon Valley Jr. Harleysville, Pa.
G Cory Lemons Cabrini So. Wilmington, Del.
F Paul Reynolds Wesley So. Smyrna, Del.

SO
G Austin Claunch Emory Jr. Cypress, Texas
G Matt Addison Hardin-Simmons Jr. Killeen, Texas
G Brandon Irwin Howard Payne Jr. Thorndale, Texas  
F Chris Barnes Texas-Dallas Jr. San Antonio, Texas
F Harrison George Hampden-Sydney So. Raleigh, N.C.
G Matt Dougherty N.C. Wesleyan Jr. Ayden, N.C.
G Conley Taylor Christopher Newport Jr. Newport News, Va.
G Colton Hunt Randolph So. Buford, Ga.

GL
G Blair Rozenblad  Thiel  So.  Youngstown, Ohio
C Kevin Knab  Marietta  Jr.  Lakewood, Ohio
G Tyler Hammond Marietta Fr. Cleveland, Ohio
F  Tom Snikkers  Calvin  So. Jenison, Mich.
F Clayton Black Wittenberg Jr. Lancaster, Ohio
C Chris Davis Otterbein Jr. Plain City, Ohio

MW
G Matt Johnson Chicago Jr. Ann Arbor, Mich.  
F Mike Case  Hanover  Jr.  Indianapolis, Ind.
G Jordan Moss Manchester Jr. Columbia City, Ind.
G Logan Wolfrum Defiance So. Defiance, Ohio
F  Aris Wurtz Ripon Jr. Waupun, Wis.  
F Landon Gamble North Central (Ill.) Fr. Joliet, Ill.

WE
G Jerrel Harris UW-Stevens Point So. Milwaukee, Wis.
G Dane Larson Luther Jr. Waverly, Iowa
G Shane Manor UW-River Falls Jr. Altoona, Wis.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Just Bill on June 01, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Cross out Jerrel Harris as he is transferring to a D-II school.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 01, 2011, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on June 01, 2011, 01:33:47 PM
Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on June 01, 2011, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 01, 2011, 10:45:59 AM
Quote from: RustCollege on May 31, 2011, 06:26:08 PM
Markeith Wilson is one at 6'4 playing the 3

Never heard of him.
LOL That is Cold Hoop Fan

You must be new here......Coach has been plugging his guy for a while now.

HF is well aware of Markeith Wilson. He was just having a little fun at the expense of Markeith's coach.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 02, 2011, 09:59:24 AM

You've been pimping Markeith so much, if and when I do get to see him play, there's no possible way he can live up to expectations.

I got to see Cory Lemons from Cabrini play a couple of times.  Talent-wise, he's among the best d3 players I've ever seen.  I did not see the kind of drive or intensity from him that you'd expect from the top performers.  He's an older student with a family and other responsibilities - that might have something to do with it.  I don't know.

In terms of pure ability, though, he's quite impressive.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 02, 2011, 12:11:16 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 02, 2011, 09:59:24 AM

You've been pimping Markeith so much, if and when I do get to see him play, there's no possible way he can live up to expectations.

I got to see Cory Lemons from Cabrini play a couple of times.  Talent-wise, he's among the best d3 players I've ever seen.  I did not see the kind of drive or intensity from him that you'd expect from the top performers.  He's an older student with a family and other responsibilities - that might have something to do with it.  I don't know.

In terms of pure ability, though, he's quite impressive.
Let me put it this way nobody else will so i will do it he has all american numbers he is 6'4 and can shoot from deep and post up anybody did not start for our team but put up starter numbers and you can ask hopefan he saw him play
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Ralph Turner on June 02, 2011, 12:22:42 PM
The best thing to help Wilson will be for us to see him on video stream at some games this year.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Gregory Sager on June 02, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
I think that the coach has a point. It's less about Markeith Wilson, really, and more about Rust College. The Bearcats are an independent, which means that they don't have a conference room on d3boards.com where they can be touted (or criticized) by fans from various conference schools. And the geographic isolation of Rust, coupled with that indie status, forces the Bearcats to have to play a lot of games against non-D3 competition, further reducing the chances that somebody who frequents this site is going to have a chance to see the Bearcats play. It all adds up to significantly reduced opportunities for any Bearcat to get commentary on his play on d3boards.com. The only reason why Hopefan is an exception is because he went well out of his way to travel to Holly Springs, MS out of both traveler's curiosity and a diehard attitude towards watching D3 hoops. Short of Rust playing a team that has its games webcasted, as Ralph mentioned, that isolation is likely to be just as true for the Bearcats in 2011-12 as it was last season.

In short, if the coach isn't tooting Markeith's horn, nobody will -- because nobody who lurks or posts here is ever likely to see Markeith play.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 02, 2011, 01:01:52 PM
And i will keep pushing it until he is preseason all american and if you want to know what school we played that was D3 last year and they know who he is: Birmingham-Southern, Mount Union, Rhodes, Hendrix, University of Dallas, Webster, Piedmont, Millsaps, LaGrange, Berry and Covenant
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: hopefan on June 03, 2011, 07:57:50 AM
out of curiosity, and I never asked Coach, why didn't Wilson start last year?  do you see him starting this year?

I know great 6th man situations exist throughout all levels of basketball, but I'm not so sure any 6th man ever got too far on the All American charts... Greg? Any good examples you can remind me of besides John Havlicek ;D ;D.

I am pretty sure that Coach Bunch told me that Webster will be playing Rust again this year, perhaps twice...  if so, I'll get to see Rustcollege and Markeith Wilson again
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: marlinpg10 on June 03, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
How is there no one from my Virginia Wesleyan Marlins on that list? a sweet 16 team that returns everyone including the NATIONAL FRESHMEN OF THE YEAR DJ Woodmore, and preseason all-american last year in Donald Vaughn. Definitely going to be 1,2,or 3 in the preseason poll next year.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Gregory Sager on June 03, 2011, 01:11:43 PM
Quote from: marlin faithful on June 03, 2011, 09:33:43 AM
How is there no one from my Virginia Wesleyan Marlins on that list?

There was no snub. KnightSlappy merely reproduced the list of d3hoops.com All-American and All-Region teams from last year and extracted the seniors. There were no VWC players on those lists.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 03, 2011, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: hopefan on June 03, 2011, 07:57:50 AM
out of curiosity, and I never asked Coach, why didn't Wilson start last year?  do you see him starting this year?

I know great 6th man situations exist throughout all levels of basketball, but I'm not so sure any 6th man ever got too far on the All American charts... Greg? Any good examples you can remind me of besides John Havlicek ;D ;D.

I am pretty sure that Coach Bunch told me that Webster will be playing Rust again this year, perhaps twice...  if so, I'll get to see Rustcollege and Markeith Wilson again
Well hopfan the reason he came off the bench was because he ask to come off the bench
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 03, 2011, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: RustCollege on June 03, 2011, 04:48:20 PM
Quote from: hopefan on June 03, 2011, 07:57:50 AM
out of curiosity, and I never asked Coach, why didn't Wilson start last year?  do you see him starting this year?

I know great 6th man situations exist throughout all levels of basketball, but I'm not so sure any 6th man ever got too far on the All American charts... Greg? Any good examples you can remind me of besides John Havlicek ;D ;D.

I am pretty sure that Coach Bunch told me that Webster will be playing Rust again this year, perhaps twice...  if so, I'll get to see Rustcollege and Markeith Wilson again
Well hopfan the reason he came off the bench was because he ask to come off the bench
Most likely he will start unless he want that role again
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on June 03, 2011, 09:05:10 PM

Just for the record, I have been to Holly Springs, MS - just not during basketball season.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: David Collinge on June 04, 2011, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 03, 2011, 09:05:10 PM

Just for the record, I have been to Holly Springs, MS - just not during basketball season.
Me too, more times than I can count.   I've even been on campus at Rust, just not during basketball season.  If I still lived in the town that gave me my former posting identity, I'd make a point to go see some Rust home games.

If Rhodes College leaves the SCAC and doesn't immediately join a new conference, they might find room on their schedule for games against their US 78 neighbors.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on June 06, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 04, 2011, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 03, 2011, 09:05:10 PM

Just for the record, I have been to Holly Springs, MS - just not during basketball season.
Me too, more times than I can count.   I've even been on campus at Rust, just not during basketball season.  If I still lived in the town that gave me my former posting identity, I'd make a point to go see some Rust home games.

If Rhodes College leaves the SCAC and doesn't immediately join a new conference, they might find room on their schedule for games against their US 78 neighbors.
you didn't hear Rhodes College is leaving
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: ziggy on June 07, 2011, 10:29:57 AM
Quote from: RustCollege on June 06, 2011, 05:35:37 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on June 04, 2011, 11:52:45 AM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on June 03, 2011, 09:05:10 PM

Just for the record, I have been to Holly Springs, MS - just not during basketball season.
Me too, more times than I can count.   I've even been on campus at Rust, just not during basketball season.  If I still lived in the town that gave me my former posting identity, I'd make a point to go see some Rust home games.

If Rhodes College leaves the SCAC and doesn't immediately join a new conference, they might find room on their schedule for games against their US 78 neighbors.
you didn't hear Rhodes College is leaving

Looks like the SCAC is blowing up: http://thecabin.net/news/local/2011-06-06/hendrix-college-7-others-form-new-d-iii-conference
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: jman3134 on August 24, 2011, 10:06:48 PM
Funny that the coach was trying to prop up his player. I recently wrote an article compiling all the Division 2, Division 3, NAIA divisions 1 & 2 players together to form a top 161 player ranking. I listed Markeith in there. I swear that I have not been contacted by this coach, and I only discovered these forums just yesterday.

Let me know what you all think.

Obviously, I have not observed these players as often as you have. I have seen Lamonte Thomas play more than a few times and many of the others. But, I am sure that you would have more in depth opinions of some of the guys I mention on this list. Let me know what you feel about the rankings. I actually included DJ from Virginia Wesleyan as well as some other guys who were not mentioned in the returning all americans discussion. I feel that James Wang from Williams should be ranked very high. I also like David Gibbs as a breakout candidate for this year.

Here is a link to the ranking list: http://bit.ly/nnz87R
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on August 25, 2011, 02:37:06 PM
Quote from: jman3134 on August 24, 2011, 10:06:48 PM
Funny that the coach was trying to prop up his player. I recently wrote an article compiling all the Division 2, Division 3, NAIA divisions 1 & 2 players together to form a top 161 player ranking. I listed Markeith in there. I swear that I have not been contacted by this coach, and I only discovered these forums just yesterday.

Let me know what you all think.

Obviously, I have not observed these players as often as you have. I have seen Lamonte Thomas play more than a few times and many of the others. But, I am sure that you would have more in depth opinions of some of the guys I mention on this list. Let me know what you feel about the rankings. I actually included DJ from Virginia Wesleyan as well as some other guys who were not mentioned in the returning all americans discussion. I feel that James Wang from Williams should be ranked very high. I also like David Gibbs as a breakout candidate for this year.

Here is a link to the ranking list: http://bit.ly/nnz87R
Ok i like this post but i think Markeith Should be Higher but i still like it
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on September 23, 2011, 11:01:54 AM
Its almost that time
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: hopefan on September 23, 2011, 11:24:02 AM
Rust college... Did everyone return that you expected?   When will Rust's schedule be posted on the Rust.edu site?
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: wooscotsfan on September 24, 2011, 11:19:42 AM
Sporting News Division III Preview is out - List of All-Americans:
First Team
Chad Burridge - Oswego State (NY)
Tim McCrary - Wheaton (IL)
Ryan Sharry - Middlebury (VT)
Lamonte Thomas - Johnson & Wales (RI)
James Wang - Williams (MA)

Second Team
John DiBartolomeo - Rochester (NY)
Trevor Halter - Marietta (OH)
Spencer Liddic - Muhlenberg (PA)
Georgio Milligan - Frankin & Marshall (PA)
Jake Simmons - Buffalo State (NY)

Honorable Mention
Matt Addison - Hardin Simmons (TX)
British Alexander - Bethany (WV)
Clayton Black - Wittenberg (OH)
Cory Boone - Alvernia (PA)
DaQuan Brooks - Western Connecticut St.
Pedro Burgos - Rutgers Newark (NJ)
Mike Case - Hanover (IN)
Austin Claunch - Emory (GA)
Russ Conley - Penn St. Behrend (PA)
Chris Davis - Otterbein (OH)
Kent Faurote - Edgewood (WI)
Landon Gamble - North Central (IL)
Harrison George - Hampden Sydney (VA)
Justin Hallowell - Wooster (OH)
Ahmad Hassan - Ramapo (NJ)
Noel Hollingsworth - MIT (MA)
Colton Hunt - Randolph (VA)
Matt Johnson - Chicago (IL)
Kevin Knab - Marietta (OH)
Cory Lemons - Cabrini (PA)
Christian MacAuley - St. Mary's (MD)
Joe Meehan - Lebanon Valley (PA)
Jordan Moss - Manchester (IN)
Matt Pebole - Hobart (NY)
Josh Pittman - Guilford (NC)
Paul Reynolds - Wesley (Del.)
Blair Rozenblad - Thiel (PA)
Tom Snikkers - Calvin (MI)
Bryant Voiles - Augustana (IL)
Jon Ward - Ursinus (PA)
D.J. Woodmere - Virginia Wesleyan
Aris Wurtz - Ripon (WI)

Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Hugenerd on September 24, 2011, 09:49:13 PM
As listed on the Sporting News list, Noel Hollingsworth is back this season for MIT after missing last season due to injury. He was NEWMAC POY 2 years ago, as well as 1st team NE. He was also 2nd team AA on the NABC list. They also have Will Tashman, who was all NE region last year and Mitch Kates, who was NE newcomer of the year 2 years ago. I think all 3 deserve consideration as top players at their respective positions in the NE.  With Hollingsworth injured last year, all three are juniors with respect to eligibility this year.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on September 25, 2011, 08:19:27 PM
Quote from: wooscotsfan on September 24, 2011, 11:19:42 AM
Sporting News Division III Preview is out - List of All-Americans:
First Team
Chad Burridge - Oswego State (NY)
Tim McCrary - Wheaton (IL)
Ryan Sharry - Middlebury (VT)
Lamonte Thomas - Johnson & Wales (RI)
James Wang - Williams (MA)

Second Team
John DiBartolomeo - Rochester (NY)
Trevor Halter - Marietta (OH)
Spencer Liddic - Muhlenberg (PA)
Georgio Milligan - Frankin & Marshall (PA)
Jake Simmons - Buffalo State (NY)

Honorable Mention
Matt Addison - Hardin Simmons (TX)
British Alexander - Bethany (WV)
Clayton Black - Wittenberg (OH)
Cory Boone - Alvernia (PA)
DaQuan Brooks - Western Connecticut St.
Pedro Burgos - Rutgers Newark (NJ)
Mike Case - Hanover (IN)
Austin Claunch - Emory (GA)
Russ Conley - Penn St. Behrend (PA)
Chris Davis - Otterbein (OH)
Kent Faurote - Edgewood (WI)
Landon Gamble - North Central (IL)
Harrison George - Hampden Sydney (VA)
Justin Hallowell - Wooster (OH)
Ahmad Hassan - Ramapo (NJ)
Noel Hollingsworth - MIT (MA)
Colton Hunt - Randolph (VA)
Matt Johnson - Chicago (IL)
Kevin Knab - Marietta (OH)
Cory Lemons - Cabrini (PA)
Christian MacAuley - St. Mary's (MD)
Joe Meehan - Lebanon Valley (PA)
Jordan Moss - Manchester (IN)
Matt Pebole - Hobart (NY)
Josh Pittman - Guilford (NC)
Paul Reynolds - Wesley (Del.)
Blair Rozenblad - Thiel (PA)
Tom Snikkers - Calvin (MI)
Bryant Voiles - Augustana (IL)
Jon Ward - Ursinus (PA)
D.J. Woodmere - Virginia Wesleyan
Aris Wurtz - Ripon (WI)
Now where is Markeith Wilson because i bet here is better then half of these players im not taking nothing away from them but he should get his due
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: RustCollege on September 25, 2011, 08:22:09 PM
Quote from: hopefan on September 23, 2011, 11:24:02 AM
Rust college... Did everyone return that you expected?   When will Rust's schedule be posted on the Rust.edu site?
Yes everyone is back we only lost three and Larry Veasley is back from being hurt
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: mass_d3fan on September 25, 2011, 10:10:04 PM
First off, HN - Congradulations on the 'DOC'  Hope all is going well for you!

I agree than Hollinsworth should be on the list, but it will be very interesting to see how the MIT schedule affects his numbers this year and how people will evaluate them.  I just posted in the NEWMAC forum how weak the MIT non-conference schedule is (9 sub .500 teams - 5 of them with less than 10 wins).  Noel may put up big numbers if he plays 30 minutes a game against that schedule, OR if he plays lower minutes in games that are blow-outs (and they should have a lot of them), his numbers may be down from 2 years ago.

All depends on how Coach Anderson plays it, but I personally feel that he, Tashman & Kates will all have big statistical seasons against that schedule.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: Captain Bob on September 26, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
For Christopher Newport, senior Conley Taylor and sophmore Tre Benefield will be big.

We lost two seniors to graduation and one junior to a car accident since last season, but I think we still have a chance to challenge NC Wesleyan for the USAC title.
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: stag44 on October 07, 2011, 08:14:10 AM
I think Chris Blees could be someone to watch. He was the SCIAC POY as a soph and jr and was a pre-season all american mention in 2010-11, helped CMS upset the #1 NAIA team, only to blow out his knee in the 2nd game of the year last year.

From all indications he should be ready to go this year again. I'm interested to see how he responds off the injury. 
Title: Re: Who are the TOP Players returning for the 2011-2012 basketball season
Post by: nwhoops1903 on October 11, 2011, 08:16:30 PM
Whitworth has 3 guys.  Jack Loofburrow will  a score like a madman and Wade Gebbers will be a force at point guard.  Felix Freidt is a load at the post.