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Hit me up in October.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
Hit me up in October.

Topic unlocked. You guys are on the ball. :)

Thanks Pat.

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With DPU's travails this year - I believe they've moved from Zima to harder stuff. I can see lots of coolers of Cosmopolitans in the tailgate lot.

Thanks Pat for opening up the topic.  Tickets sales commenced after half-time of the Homecoming game this weekend and we left the campus with tickets in hand. Given the travails to the south, I don't know what to expect regarding ticket sales for the "Gold" side of the field.  If DPU does not sell out their allotment, can Wabash sell more tickets?

Ever since the unfortunate moronic incidents in the 90's they've never 'crossed the streams' as it were, at least as I can remember.

With this topic opening up, I feel like Christmas came early! Wabash and Witt on the Saturday the Bell Week thread opens up. Brilliant!

As a kid who grew up in Greencastle to a young man that went to school at Wabash, this rivalry means so much to me. Definitely hope the Tigers can turn things around down there. Great win for them on Saturday vs. WashU.

Ordered my tickets yesterday. Even trying to convince a few of the grad school friends to make the trip with me.

My class was 3-1 in Bell Games, losing our freshman year. That was awful. Sometimes I worry that the meaning of The Game is lost with some of the underclassmen who never knew what it was like to not have The Bell. Then I remember it's always better to have it ;)

I am reluctantly present.

Quote from: Old Pal Wes on October 02, 2012, 11:38:32 AM
I am reluctantly present.

+1 for representing even after all that has happened this year (and previous).

Quote from: smedindy on October 02, 2012, 08:26:34 AM
Ever since the unfortunate moronic incidents in the 90's they've never 'crossed the streams' as it were, at least as I can remember.

Smed - nice Ghostbusters reference.  If I knew how this Karma thing worked, I would +K you  :)

What do you think it will take to "unring the bell" and return the event to its pre-moronic roots?

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 02, 2012, 07:39:18 PM

Quote from: smedindy on October 02, 2012, 08:26:34 AM
Ever since the unfortunate moronic incidents in the 90's they've never 'crossed the streams' as it were, at least as I can remember.

Smed - nice Ghostbusters reference.  If I knew how this Karma thing worked, I would +K you  :)

What do you think it will take to "unring the bell" and return the event to its pre-moronic roots?

I don't recall any cross-pollination (in stadiums, anyway) going back to '69-'74, but then not recalling a lot of things these days - fortunately.  ;D

Regarding "unringing," would guess when Mephistopheles has a frozen pair?  :o

Depauw is going to start selling their tickets for the Monon Bell game on 10/22 (see link below).   Serious question - what do you think the attendance numbers will be for Depauw?  In year's past they have shown up in good numbers regardless of record (as best as I can recall).  IMHO, I think the attendance will be little down but not a huge drop-off.  If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/football/news/details/29029/ (http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/football/news/details/29029/)

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again? 

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

Wally - Good points all.  I had not considered the impact of the winless streak.  The Class of 2013 at Wabash, knock on wood, will have run the table with a victory in November and the Dannies will have taken the golden sombrero. 

I think there is enough institutional momentum to keep attendance up, it nothing else it gives the Dannies a good reason to drink and maintain their party school ranking - gotta beat Wabash at something!!

If the season progresses with Wabash going into the game 8-1 and the Dannies sitting at a probable 2-7 or 3-6 at best, a poor weather forecast may keep attendance down on both sides of the field. I know a lot of wives and co-eds are going to bail if the weather is crappy and the game is supposed to be a blow-out.  Either way, the core Wabash faithful will far outnumber the Dannies, regardless of the conditions.

A little historical perspective:

If Wabash wins this year, it will mark the 10th time that a Wabash class has swept the four-year series and the 7th time  since the Bell series started that a Wabash class has retained the Bell for four straight years (including ties).  Depauw has had 6 senior classes complete a four-year sweep.  Since the Monon Bell came into the picture, Depauw has had 10 senior classes retain the Bell for four straight years (including ties). 

Before my son started, the five men in my family that attended Wabash had an overall class record of 9-9-2 and the three women in the family that attended Depauw had a class record of 5-5-2. We were dead even at 14-14-4 for a generation until the Class of 2013 arrived at Wabash.  If Wabash wins this year, the sixth member of the clan will have a class record of 4-0 and the family record will sit at 18-14-4 for Wabash.  Hoorahh.

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 06:12:39 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

Wally - Good points all.  I had not considered the impact of the winless streak.  The Class of 2013 at Wabash, knock on wood, will have run the table with a victory in November and the Dannies will have taken the golden sombrero. 

I think there is enough institutional momentum to keep attendance up, it nothing else it gives the Dannies a good reason to drink and maintain their party school ranking - gotta beat Wabash at something!!

If the season progresses with Wabash going into the game 8-1 and the Dannies sitting at a probable 2-7 or 3-6 at best, a poor weather forecast may keep attendance down on both sides of the field. I know a lot of wives and co-eds are going to bail if the weather is crappy and the game is supposed to be a blow-out.  Either way, the core Wabash faithful will far outnumber the Dannies, regardless of the conditions.

A lot of what I said, while factual, was meant to be tongue in cheek.  I doubt seriously that the bulk of the DePauw student body will blow off the game.  The event is too big to just skip it. 

In the last 12 years or so when the game has been a non-league game and one team or another has already secured a playoff spot (usually Wabash), I've had a suspicion that the team finishing their season has a bit of an advantage over the team moving on.  Something happens when seniors know they are playing their last game.  Wabash got bit in 2007 and 2009 by this.  DePauw got bit in 2010.  That's not to say that the teams that won were bad teams and heavy underdogs...all of those teams that won were good teams.  I digress...the point is that that won't be the case this year.  Wabash, having lost a league game already will need to beat DePauw to win the league outright or a share of the league and, in the event that a tiebreak doesn't fall in favor of Wabash, keep that 9-1 record for at-large consideration.  If Wabash can get to the Bell game with just one loss, they'll need that game to keep playing.  There will not be a guaranteed game for Wabash beyond week 11 unless they win. 

We'll all get into this more as time passes and we get deeper into the schedule, but so far this year DePauw's  five opponents have a combined record of 20-7.  With all the turmoil of these first weeks for them (anyone remember Robbie Long?), and then the grinder of an early schedule, I expect the Dannies will rally somewhat in the second half of the season as the freshman QB matures (though starting a freshman in the Bell game is, well, challenging--ask Knott and Spud) and be slobbering for an upset.  By the way, Wabash's oponents so far are 17-9.  The two teams and #1 and #2 in the NCAC as far as opponents' records go.   

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 01, 2012, 04:49:03 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 17, 2011, 12:52:06 PM
Hit me up in October.

Topic unlocked. You guys are on the ball. :)

Thanks Pat.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 09:43:04 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 06:12:39 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

Wally - Good points all.  I had not considered the impact of the winless streak.  The Class of 2013 at Wabash, knock on wood, will have run the table with a victory in November and the Dannies will have taken the golden sombrero. 

I think there is enough institutional momentum to keep attendance up, it nothing else it gives the Dannies a good reason to drink and maintain their party school ranking - gotta beat Wabash at something!!

If the season progresses with Wabash going into the game 8-1 and the Dannies sitting at a probable 2-7 or 3-6 at best, a poor weather forecast may keep attendance down on both sides of the field. I know a lot of wives and co-eds are going to bail if the weather is crappy and the game is supposed to be a blow-out.  Either way, the core Wabash faithful will far outnumber the Dannies, regardless of the conditions.

A lot of what I said, while factual, was meant to be tongue in cheek.  I doubt seriously that the bulk of the DePauw student body will blow off the game.  The event is too big to just skip it. 

In the last 12 years or so when the game has been a non-league game and one team or another has already secured a playoff spot (usually Wabash), I've had a suspicion that the team finishing their season has a bit of an advantage over the team moving on.  Something happens when seniors know they are playing their last game.  Wabash got bit in 2007 and 2009 by this.  DePauw got bit in 2010.  That's not to say that the teams that won were bad teams and heavy underdogs...all of those teams that won were good teams.  I digress...the point is that that won't be the case this year.  Wabash, having lost a league game already will need to beat DePauw to win the league outright or a share of the league and, in the event that a tiebreak doesn't fall in favor of Wabash, keep that 9-1 record for at-large consideration.  If Wabash can get to the Bell game with just one loss, they'll need that game to keep playing.  There will not be a guaranteed game for Wabash beyond week 11 unless they win.

Does Debash have some sort of looking glass that lets you guys already hang 9 wins? That type of confidence is what comes back to bite you, especially in a bell game.

As for fans showing up, I think you will always have a strong showing. The weather does impact the number marginally, but I think most of the Depauw students attend because this is really the only time any of them tailgate at, or travel to, an away game while in college.

As for us alumni, we love traveling up to Crawfordsdingle. As soon as we get on what you call a campus, it lifts all of our spirits to know that we made the right choices in life. It makes us more appreciative of what we have in life. It really is the best time of the year. 

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 09, 2012, 06:38:22 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 09:43:04 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 06:12:39 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

Wally - Good points all.  I had not considered the impact of the winless streak.  The Class of 2013 at Wabash, knock on wood, will have run the table with a victory in November and the Dannies will have taken the golden sombrero. 

I think there is enough institutional momentum to keep attendance up, it nothing else it gives the Dannies a good reason to drink and maintain their party school ranking - gotta beat Wabash at something!!

If the season progresses with Wabash going into the game 8-1 and the Dannies sitting at a probable 2-7 or 3-6 at best, a poor weather forecast may keep attendance down on both sides of the field. I know a lot of wives and co-eds are going to bail if the weather is crappy and the game is supposed to be a blow-out.  Either way, the core Wabash faithful will far outnumber the Dannies, regardless of the conditions.

A lot of what I said, while factual, was meant to be tongue in cheek.  I doubt seriously that the bulk of the DePauw student body will blow off the game.  The event is too big to just skip it. 

In the last 12 years or so when the game has been a non-league game and one team or another has already secured a playoff spot (usually Wabash), I've had a suspicion that the team finishing their season has a bit of an advantage over the team moving on.  Something happens when seniors know they are playing their last game.  Wabash got bit in 2007 and 2009 by this.  DePauw got bit in 2010.  That's not to say that the teams that won were bad teams and heavy underdogs...all of those teams that won were good teams.  I digress...the point is that that won't be the case this year.  Wabash, having lost a league game already will need to beat DePauw to win the league outright or a share of the league and, in the event that a tiebreak doesn't fall in favor of Wabash, keep that 9-1 record for at-large consideration.  If Wabash can get to the Bell game with just one loss, they'll need that game to keep playing.  There will not be a guaranteed game for Wabash beyond week 11 unless they win.

Does Debash have some sort of looking glass that lets you guys already hang 9 wins? That type of confidence is what comes back to bite you, especially in a bell game.

As for fans showing up, I think you will always have a strong showing. The weather does impact the number marginally, but I think most of the Depauw students attend because this is really the only time any of them tailgate at, or travel to, an away game while in college.

As for us alumni, we love traveling up to Crawfordsdingle. As soon as we get on what you call a campus, it lifts all of our spirits to know that we made the right choices in life. It makes us more appreciative of what we have in life. It really is the best time of the year.

If it's your sorry club team standing in the way between Wabash and that ninth win, then I'm feeling pretty good about hitting that mark. 

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

I sure hope the answer is a huge yes. I know you said some of this was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, but the willingness to come back year after year -- no matter the prior season's outcome -- makes this rivalry great! Wally, you and I both know the hardship of years of straight losses, and a couple of big ones at that. While I'm sure as heck not pulling for a Dannie upset any time soon, I do know that if I hadn't had faith in my team each and every season (despite seeing my first five Bell games end in losses), I might have missed something remarkable.....like one of the greatest finishes in D-III history (http://www.d3football.com/notables/best-finishes/the-tip-the-catch). :)

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Does Debash have some sort of looking glass that lets you guys already hang 9 wins? That type of confidence is what comes back to bite you, especially in a bell game.

As for fans showing up, I think you will always have a strong showing. The weather does impact the number marginally, but I think most of the Depauw students attend because this is really the only time any of them tailgate at, or travel to, an away game while in college.

As for us alumni, we love traveling up to Crawfordsdingle. As soon as we get on what you call a campus, it lifts all of our spirits to know that we made the right choices in life. It makes us more appreciative of what we have in life. It really is the best time of the year.
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Welcome back from your hibernation Bear.

Regarding the nine-win mirror, we alumni can play the looking glass game.  Now that we are past Witt, I think we will see a focused Little Giant team the next several weeks. They cannot afford another game like Allegheny where they were flat. With the Depauw game now a conference game as well, there is zero chance of a let down.

Get out the broooms for the Class of 2013.

The great thing about this rivalry is that it is a survivor.......   You don't go 100+ years being a few games off in the win-loss column if it is not.   The "anything can happen" "Records don't matter" factor is still alive and well.   Sure, the past few years have been rough for the Dannies,  but they have run into some exceptional Wabash squads.   History tells us that things will even out.  Hopefully, not this year, next or even the year after that or infinity..   

1921 thru 1927  Wabash won 7 straight.

1955 thru 1964 -  Depauw had 10 years without a loss in the Bell Game (8 wins and 2 ties)  Better known as the "Dark Ages" 

Question -  What happened to the Bell in the case of a tie?

Quote from: bashbrother on October 09, 2012, 08:28:40 PM
Question -  What happened to the Bell in the case of a tie?

It stayed with the team that won it the previous year.

Of course, the first game that was officially a Monon Bell game ended in a tie. Don't know what they did for that one.

One thing that DPU really does do well is maintain an awesome Monon Bell history section on their athletics website.

On there, it says regarding that first game: "The first Monon Bell game in 1932 ended in a 0-0 tie, but since neither team had possession, it remained in hiding for the entire year."

It also notes that the earliest rules indicated that, in the case of a tie, the teams shared the Bell, each getting it for six months. Those rules were replaced later on with ones that said the previous year's winner got to keep the prize.

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 09, 2012, 08:27:19 PM

Does Debash have some sort of looking glass that lets you guys already hang 9 wins? That type of confidence is what comes back to bite you, especially in a bell game.

As for fans showing up, I think you will always have a strong showing. The weather does impact the number marginally, but I think most of the Depauw students attend because this is really the only time any of them tailgate at, or travel to, an away game while in college.

As for us alumni, we love traveling up to Crawfordsdingle. As soon as we get on what you call a campus, it lifts all of our spirits to know that we made the right choices in life. It makes us more appreciative of what we have in life. It really is the best time of the year.
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Welcome back from your hibernation Bear.

Regarding the nine-win mirror, we alumni can play the looking glass game.  Now that we are past Witt, I think we will see a focused Little Giant team the next several weeks. They cannot afford another game like Allegheny where they were flat. With the Depauw game now a conference game as well, there is zero chance of a let down.

Get out the broooms for the Class of 2013.
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Don't call it a hibernation, I've been here for years, I'm rocking my peers, Puttin' suckers in fear, Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon, listen to the bass go boom, Explosions, overpowerin'

It is sad that Debash has such a cupcake schedule that you can already hang 9. I bet that really helps when the playoffs roll around. At least down in Greencastle we have a little enthusiasm and eagerness this year because anything can actually happen. We can only go up, which is exciting.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 09, 2012, 07:34:36 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 09, 2012, 06:38:22 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 09:43:04 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 06:12:39 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 08, 2012, 01:53:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 08, 2012, 01:15:05 PM
If I went to DPU, I would not want to miss what could be another (though highly unlikely) huge upset.

Aside from a few stragglers who are hanging around for a fifth year, there aren't any students left at DePauw that have seen DePauw win a Bell Game, let alone one in which they pulled off a wicked upset.  And not only have those kids not seen DePauw win, but the last two games have been two of the biggest, most thorough beatings in series history.  Think about that...half of DePauw's student body experience is limited to watching Wabash win 47-0 and 42-7.  That's all they know.  Factor in maybe some less than pleasant weather....would you be leaping at a chance to go live through that again?

Wally - Good points all.  I had not considered the impact of the winless streak.  The Class of 2013 at Wabash, knock on wood, will have run the table with a victory in November and the Dannies will have taken the golden sombrero. 

I think there is enough institutional momentum to keep attendance up, it nothing else it gives the Dannies a good reason to drink and maintain their party school ranking - gotta beat Wabash at something!!

If the season progresses with Wabash going into the game 8-1 and the Dannies sitting at a probable 2-7 or 3-6 at best, a poor weather forecast may keep attendance down on both sides of the field. I know a lot of wives and co-eds are going to bail if the weather is crappy and the game is supposed to be a blow-out.  Either way, the core Wabash faithful will far outnumber the Dannies, regardless of the conditions.

A lot of what I said, while factual, was meant to be tongue in cheek.  I doubt seriously that the bulk of the DePauw student body will blow off the game.  The event is too big to just skip it. 

In the last 12 years or so when the game has been a non-league game and one team or another has already secured a playoff spot (usually Wabash), I've had a suspicion that the team finishing their season has a bit of an advantage over the team moving on.  Something happens when seniors know they are playing their last game.  Wabash got bit in 2007 and 2009 by this.  DePauw got bit in 2010.  That's not to say that the teams that won were bad teams and heavy underdogs...all of those teams that won were good teams.  I digress...the point is that that won't be the case this year.  Wabash, having lost a league game already will need to beat DePauw to win the league outright or a share of the league and, in the event that a tiebreak doesn't fall in favor of Wabash, keep that 9-1 record for at-large consideration.  If Wabash can get to the Bell game with just one loss, they'll need that game to keep playing.  There will not be a guaranteed game for Wabash beyond week 11 unless they win.

Does Debash have some sort of looking glass that lets you guys already hang 9 wins? That type of confidence is what comes back to bite you, especially in a bell game.

As for fans showing up, I think you will always have a strong showing. The weather does impact the number marginally, but I think most of the Depauw students attend because this is really the only time any of them tailgate at, or travel to, an away game while in college.

As for us alumni, we love traveling up to Crawfordsdingle. As soon as we get on what you call a campus, it lifts all of our spirits to know that we made the right choices in life. It makes us more appreciative of what we have in life. It really is the best time of the year.

If it's your sorry club team standing in the way between Wabash and that ninth win, then I'm feeling pretty good about hitting that mark. 

Good one Dawally-Debash! You sure got me! Glad to know the NCAC lets club teams in. That must be the reason for Debashs great record over the years.

Ah, yes, and the massive powers that are Austin, Sewanee and Colorado College are world beaters.

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 10, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
Good one Dawally-Debash! You sure got me! Glad to know the NCAC lets club teams in. That must be the reason for Debashs great record over the years.

Stop name calling and defend your team.  Stop ripping the league because, after all, it's YOUR league now also.  Offer something constructive one time.  Tell the world what chance DePauw has on 11/10 and why.

Hello all, good to see the usual suspects once again visiting the venom pool. 

Attendance wise, I agree with Bear and Hokie.  Student attendance should be the same due to the unfortunate fact that this is the only away game most DPU students ever see.  Every ticket should be sold, but I can see wives and the more-weary alums bailing at the last minute (especially if weather is bad).  Wabash fans are better travelers, but if I made the unfortunate decision to attend Wally World I'd also look for any reason to flee the campus. 

For me WW is like Long John Silver's -- vile, but need to get my fix once every two years.  However, this is probably the least excited I've ever been to attend the game.  DPU has been absolutely rolled and smoked the last 2 years and it's hard to keep optimism alive for this season.  Don't get me wrong; I'll be there, whiskey in hand, taking a kick in the nuts once again.  After all, not every American is afforded the opportunity to make use of a 60 acre toilet.

Just wish our program would get back to being competitive.  SURELY these blowouts are becoming boring for the Cavemen.  I shall, of course, hope for a miracle but begrudgingly believe the Bell will stay at Wabash.  Enjoy it.  There is no way any Wally will ever experience anything on par to the joygasm I will have when we finally win back the Bell.  When DePauw finds a long-term solution at coach, renovates the facilities, and improves recruiting, this should be a match-up befitting of the rivalry. 

Quote from: Danny Boy on October 10, 2012, 04:08:28 PM
SURELY these blowouts are becoming boring for the Cavemen.

Nope. 

Liar.

Quote from: Danny Boy on October 11, 2012, 12:44:08 AM
Liar.

Nope -our only concern has been beating you too badly.  The last thing we wanted to see was Robby Long take the night train from Dannie Land. However, when Depauw's self-anointed "best team in the school's history" got waxed 47-0 two years ago, the writing was on the wall.  With a new coach on the horizon, we better get while the gettin's good because over the years, history has shown the pendulum swings both ways.  With the recent announcement of new carpeting in Blackstock (where will the cheerleaders graze?) and other facilities improvements, if Depauw can hire a coach that can type, file, take shorthand, make coffee, and perform his administrative duties as called for by the chick with the big stick (oh, and coach a little on the side), then we will have a game. I am looking forward to another complete and utter beatdown - no, it does not get old - it will never get boring - it is Depauw.

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 15, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
if Depauw can hire a coach that can type, file, take shorthand, make coffee, and perform his administrative duties as called for by the chick with the big stick (oh, and coach a little on the side), then we will have a game.

So you're suggesting we hire a Wabash alum? 

Just find a coach... one that will be a good boy.... and put up at least a fight already.

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 10, 2012, 12:28:10 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 10, 2012, 10:32:39 AM
Good one Dawally-Debash! You sure got me! Glad to know the NCAC lets club teams in. That must be the reason for Debashs great record over the years.

Stop name calling and defend your team.  Stop ripping the league because, after all, it's YOUR league now also.  Offer something constructive one time.  Tell the world what chance DePauw has on 11/10 and why.

Make me.

What do you want me to say Dewally? That Depauw has a chance to win IF they hire Les Miles AND they have about 20 D1 transfers in the next few weeks? The writing is on the wall. I am realistic that we have an ice cubes chance in hell to pull off a win, but there is still a chance. Long's luck ran out on his borrowed time with Walker's guys. The positive potential of a new coach, a new rug at Blackstock, a showing of support from the Depauw Admin. for football, along with the chance to hit an overconfident Debash in the teeth might be enough to give DPU what it needs to win. It is still highly unlikely that anything will change from the last two seasons.

I still support them and wish them the best.

Quote from: Danny Boy on October 15, 2012, 04:12:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 15, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
if Depauw can hire a coach that can type, file, take shorthand, make coffee, and perform his administrative duties as called for by the chick with the big stick (oh, and coach a little on the side), then we will have a game.

So you're suggesting we hire a Wabash alum?

Only after the chick with the big stick finds her own cupboard barren, the Depauw male alumni being comprised of feckless pustules of supposed manhood.  We Wabash men are true renaissance men, willing and capable to do what is necessary to get the job done - and satisfy the most demanding of chicks with big sticks.

Actually, this happened back in the day.  Raymond Neal graduated from Wabash and was the winningest coach in Depauw history until Coach Nick came along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Neal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Neal)

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 15, 2012, 05:23:32 PM

Quote from: Danny Boy on October 15, 2012, 04:12:07 PM

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 15, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
if Depauw can hire a coach that can type, file, take shorthand, make coffee, and perform his administrative duties as called for by the chick with the big stick (oh, and coach a little on the side), then we will have a game.

So you're suggesting we hire a Wabash alum?

Only after the chick with the big stick finds her own cupboard barren, the Depauw male alumni being comprised of feckless pustules of supposed manhood.  We Wabash men are true renaissance men, willing and capable to do what is necessary to get the job done - and satisfy the most demanding of chicks with big sticks.

Actually, this actually happened back in the day.  Raymond Neal graduated from Wabash and was the winningest coach in Depauw history until Coach Nick came along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Neal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Neal)

A Wabash alum would at least understand the importance of the history between the two schools. We would still need to teach him the ways of the world outside of Crafordsdingleberry.

It is official. The RV is secured and the flight is booked. Less than three weeks until I visit Crawfordstuky once again.

On another note, I got some encouraging news from Brian Casey about the plan for the Depauw Athletics Complex in the next few years. It is going to be awesome if they actually go through with all of the changes.

Should figure out how to not lose at home to Kenyon first.  Baby steps...

Remember in the good old days when the posts about Monon were borderline fighting words and there was actually a reason to log on to see what was being said?  Man, I hope Depauw can turn around the program so we can get back to that.

Bear:  Tough to beat up on your opponents when they are even questioning themselves.  Interesting article from "The DePauw"

http://www.thedepauw.com/sports/is-this-rock-bottom-yet-1.2932575 (http://www.thedepauw.com/sports/is-this-rock-bottom-yet-1.2932575)

I call into question Coach Srnka's comment about the impact of playing freshmen  - "It's maturity. We're playing a heck of a lot of freshmen," interim head coach Scott Srnka said after the game. "That's not a thing that happens at DePauw. Freshmen play JV ball. ... It's just a maturation process, and you'd hope they mature a lot quicker than we have at this point, but we just have to keep coaching them better so they're in their spots doing what they're supposed to do."

While DePauw lists eight freshmen in their two-deeproster (from the Kenyon game), Wabash has thirteen freshmen in their two-deep.  I did not see any "participation" information available, but it would appear that Wabash and Depauw are both playing a good number of freshmen. 

Coach can say what he will, but in truth, the problem isn't the number of freshman that are playing, it is the lack of quality players in the upper classes that is killing the new Tigers.

In answer to the question - is this rock bottom yet?   Losing to Kenyon may be the low to date, but this year's seniors won't be at rock bottom until after they have experienced a four-year shutout in the Bell game.

I figured I'd post for 2 reasons

1. The Bell game is 2 weeks from today -- and although I clearly understand that this is the least thrilled I've been to see the game, maybe ever, I still get just as jacked up for the weekend and the week and festivities leading up to kickoff.

2.  DePauw won today.  Granted it was against Wooster, but that's where we are right now.  We need to celebrate W's.


--I can only hope the football Gods are with us 2 Saturdays from now to help trip up DeBash in the best way possible.  My expectations are low, but as always, my rooting interest is high  -- because it goes without saying.  I despise Wabash and the color red and those ugly candy stripe overalls and Crawfordstucky

Football Gods with you?  Who or what do you think has been behind this for the last two years?  With us he says...yeesh. 

The Football Gods probably felt sorry today and said, "yeah, lets give them this one...'

I knew it wouldn't take long, wally.

You guys take everything so personally....but kind of makes sense.

The Gods surely haven't been with us the last few years - and I don't expect that in 2 weeks.  All I'm saying is one can hope.  Hope is about all we've got, at least for the remainder of 2012.  I do think that things will be on the up soon.  The University has done a GREAT job of communicating with football alums about their plan.  Sounds good on paper, we'll see.

It's not personal for me, it's astute football analysis. Two crappy teams playing each other - one has to win. It was you today who had the less stank on them.

look - I'm far from bragging about a win over Wooster - trust me.

It's just nice to log on to live stats and see DePauw with a win -- i'm not arguing the 'stank' that resides on the program this year

Yay.  DePauw beat Wooster.  Yay. /sarcasm.  That Kenyon game still bothers me.  Our special teams really look like "special" teams.

The Wallies really should be rooting for DePauw this year for the simple reason that the surprise of winning the Bell will give many DPU supporters a fatal case of shock.

Irish, have you been contacted about the coaching vacancy yet?  ;)

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on October 27, 2012, 06:56:30 PM
It's just nice to log on to live stats and see DePauw with a win.

Man. You really keep a close watch.

Also, I recognize that you're kind of damned-if-do/damned-if-you-don't, but Depauw fans, hello, I'd just as soon not read anything on here than have to read all of these disparaging posts about a team from that team's own fan-base. Ugh. It's depressing.

Quote from: BashDad on October 28, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Also, I recognize that you're kind of damned-if-do/damned-if-you-don't, but Depauw fans, hello, I'd just as soon not read anything on here than have to read all of these disparaging posts about a team from that team's own fan-base. Ugh. It's depressing.

That's why this season's thread is only 4 pages.  At least we know when to call a spade a spade.  I look forward to your contributions when the table turns.

I am wondering about attendance at this year's Bell game.  In past years, I have received email reminders to purchase tickets and updates regarding the dwindling number of available tickets.  This year - nothing.  Anything on the DePauw side?

Just in case any of you Wally's want to try and move out of your mom's basement . . .

http://www.aldenandassoc.com/executive-search/current-searches.html

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
Just in case any of you Wally's want to try and move out of your mom's basement . . .

http://www.aldenandassoc.com/executive-search/current-searches.html

When did DPU change their logo to that sad, emasculated-looking Tiger?   I know it's been a tough few years on the football field, but geez ...

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
Just in case any of you Wally's want to try and move out of your mom's basement . . .

http://www.aldenandassoc.com/executive-search/current-searches.html

Surprised that they want all applications by 11/12/2012.  For coaches (and assistant coaches) that have successful programs, does not give them any time after the season to apply.  I would think that these Alden guys know what they are doing but ... Good luck with that.

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 29, 2012, 08:46:37 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
Just in case any of you Wally's want to try and move out of your mom's basement . . .

http://www.aldenandassoc.com/executive-search/current-searches.html

Surprised that they want all applications by 11/12/2012.  For coaches (and assistant coaches) that have successful programs, does not give them any time after the season to apply.  I would think that these Alden guys know what they are doing but ... Good luck with that.

http://www.thedepauw.com/news/football-coach-search-takes-first-steps-1.2939922

They want the applications so they can get a coach selected to start recruiting as soon as possible. If they wait too long, they will have a tough time getting guys.

Quote from: Ron Boerger on October 29, 2012, 07:01:30 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM
Just in case any of you Wally's want to try and move out of your mom's basement . . .

http://www.aldenandassoc.com/executive-search/current-searches.html

When did DPU change their logo to that sad, emasculated-looking Tiger?   I know it's been a tough few years on the football field, but geez ...

Really?

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Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM

Really?

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Bear - you either found Wabash's Breast Cancer Awareness Month logo  or my wife says you must be a fan of Lilly Pulitzer (designer of much Dannie-wear).  Did not realize you were so fashion conscious - fits right in.

i'm all in on the vacancy Danny Boy...you know that.

as for everything else -- by opinion hasn't changed.....still despise the boys in red and all that goes with it

October 31, 1896 - DePauw 20, Wabash 0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utMTskGJXs4

Quote from: Wabash Hokie on October 30, 2012, 03:14:30 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on October 29, 2012, 06:09:50 PM

Really?

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Bear - you either found Wabash's Breast Cancer Awareness Month logo  or my wife says you must be a fan of Lilly Pulitzer (designer of much Dannie-wear).  Did not realize you were so fashion conscious - fits right in.
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Dabash Hickey, you would know who Lilly Pultizer is. I had to google her. You are right, down at Depauw we have to be fashion conscious because we interact with the fairer sex on a daily basis and can't show up wearing sweats and a sleeveless shirt. Isn't there a chapter on dress in the Gentleboys Code?

FT to @ChipTimmons for the post:
http://twitter.com/ChipTimmons/status/263629113280049152

DPUIrish, your remember this one?

http://vimeo.com/31460010

I miss those days.

Man I miss these days...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpvU-FPyGe0

92-7 mean anything...?

Technically part 1 of 92-7...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at7mysycZG0

http://www.thedepauw.com/news/monon-ticket-sales-down-from-previous-years-1.2943466

Sad days.

"Baker-Watson was not sure why ticket sales were so low, but said that traditionally DePauw does not sell out when the game is at Wabash.

She also said that students may not realize that they have to buy the tickets. She stressed that tickets for away games are never free, but that the university usually handles the cost for students at home games.

Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

Seriously? This is, like, a mystery?

THIS IS SO SAD DEPAUW. THIS IS SO SAD.

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 02, 2012, 11:19:48 AM
http://www.thedepauw.com/news/monon-ticket-sales-down-from-previous-years-1.2943466

Sad days.

DePauw isn't selling tickets because students don't know they have to buy tickets to an away game and/or because the game is on TV.  I'm sure that's it.  Because these are both new developments this year.  What's that?  Students have had to buy tickets for a long time now?  The game has been on TV for many years now?  Hmm...what else could be going on that would deter DePauw fans from buying tickets to the game?  I can't quite put my finger on it...

92-7

"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

It IS an election year, so the spin-fu is heavy in the air...

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing. 

This whole thing pisses me off. It's not fun if the rivalry corrodes to the point of vanishing. It's just massively disappointing. I dislike Depauw in the abstract just because it's fun to be so black-and-white about something in my life. That's cool. That's why we care. But man am I going to really actually loathe Depauw if they don't fix this. 

And fixing it begins with ACCEPTING THE FRIGGIN' PROBLEM. That's why I'm so disappointed right now. They should just come out and say "The Depauw program hasn't lived up to the rivalry in recent years and people are not showing up because of it. We're gonna fix that."

Right? Why not just say that. Start generating actual enthusiasm for the next step.

Depauw knows they can't walk into high-school football offices and pretend everything is cool, right? Like, they know that, don't they? The narrative has to be that YOUNG COACH X is digging deep to resurrect a storied program that has been burnt to the ground and he's recruiting those who want to believe in and be a part of that restoration before it happens, etc etc etc. That's the narrative. It can't be ho-hum shrug don't-really-know la-la-la monon bell. It can't be that. It's gotta be about renewal and that **** has to begin, like, yesterday. Owens and Baker-Watson are doing themselves a disservice. Who's MANAGING THIS?! WHERE'S YOUR CONSULTING FIRM?!

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
And fixing it begins with ACCEPTING THE FRIGGIN' PROBLEM. That's why I'm so disappointed right now. They should just come out and say "The Depauw program hasn't lived up to the rivalry in recent years and people are not showing up because of it. We're gonna fix that."

Right? Why not just say that. Start generating actual enthusiasm for the next step.

I think the problem started when they got rid of Walker and didn't seriously try to fill his shoes. DePauw took the easy way and put Long in charge. We have all seen how that worked out. Once Walker's guys were gone, the program has tanked. I think DePauw is serious about this problem and is taking steps in the right direction. They are conducting a national search for a coach they will have in place by Winter Term, and have committed to updating the athletic complex, including Blackstock. It may take a few years to get back on track, which I believe is unacceptable, but DePauw appears to have realized the mistakes they have made a commitment to fix the problems.

I feel bad for those guys playing who might not have a sold out crowd.

QuoteTypically around this time, the game is either sold out or there are only a few hundred tickets left, Owen said. The last time DePauw played the bell game at Wabash in 2010, only around 300 tickets were left unsold.

OK - so even in 2010, when the dannies were 9-0, nationally ranked, SCAC champs, and headed to the playoffs  - they still couldn't sell their allotment to a bell game in C'ville?  I mean - I know the weather that day wasn't great that day but its not like we are talking about gameday ticket sales.  Geez guys.  Do what you have to do.  Pad your admissions stats. Steal some signals.  Recalculate prospective football players financial aid packages when you find out they are looking at Wabash. Just rebuild your program and make this game mean something to your fan base and to the prospective recruiting classes for both schools.

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 11:38:01 AM

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing.

Wally, gotta step in.  I think you are smart enough to know that this came from a student journalist.  I said *nothing* about "online" during my chat with him; I was referring to (and I think you know this) the AXS (formerly HDNet) agreement (and I've negotiated all 3 of the deals with the network, just me and the network, BTW) .  AXS is now available on regular and HD sat and cable packages -- as a result more people than ever can see it in their homes.  That was my point.

They're also not "quotes."  Read it again.  He was summarizing a conversation we had, and again, he misstated what I said.

OK, I'll let you get back to picking fights and pointing fingers.

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:57:05 AM
Depauw knows they can't walk into high-school football offices and pretend everything is cool, right? Like, they know that, don't they? The narrative has to be that YOUNG COACH X is digging deep to resurrect a storied program that has been burnt to the ground and he's recruiting those who want to believe in and be a part of that restoration before it happens, etc etc etc. That's the narrative. It can't be ho-hum shrug don't-really-know la-la-la monon bell. It can't be that. It's gotta be about renewal and that **** has to begin, like, yesterday. Owens and Baker-Watson are doing themselves a disservice. Who's MANAGING THIS?! WHERE'S YOUR CONSULTING FIRM?!

Feel free to contact them, I have.

Philip H. Goldstein
Senior Associate & Lead Counsel
Alden & Associates, Inc.
25 Sterling Road
Florence, MA 01062
phil@aldenandassoc.com

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 11:38:01 AM

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing.

Wally, gotta step in.  I think you are smart enough to know that this came from a student journalist.  I said *nothing* about "online" during my chat with him; I was referring to (and I think you know this) the AXS (formerly HDNet) agreement (and I've negotiated all 3 of the deals with the network, just me and the network, BTW) .  AXS is now available on regular and HD sat and cable packages -- as a result more people than ever can see it in their homes.  That was my point.

They're also not "quotes."  Read it again.  He was summarizing a conversation we had, and again, he misstated what I said.

OK, I'll let you get back to picking fights and pointing fingers.

Whether or not the quote is wrong is beside the point. You think the attendance numbers are dropping because of the game being on TV? No. That's not true.

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 12:13:02 PM

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 11:38:01 AM

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing.

Wally, gotta step in.  I think you are smart enough to know that this came from a student journalist.  I said *nothing* about "online" during my chat with him; I was referring to (and I think you know this) the AXS (formerly HDNet) agreement (and I've negotiated all 3 of the deals with the network, just me and the network, BTW) .  AXS is now available on regular and HD sat and cable packages -- as a result more people than ever can see it in their homes.  That was my point.

They're also not "quotes."  Read it again.  He was summarizing a conversation we had, and again, he misstated what I said.

OK, I'll let you get back to picking fights and pointing fingers.

Whether or not the quote is wrong is beside the point. You think the attendance numbers are dropping because of the game being on TV? No. That's not true.

I offered that as one possible factor.  Period. 

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 12:13:02 PM

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 11:38:01 AM

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing.

Wally, gotta step in.  I think you are smart enough to know that this came from a student journalist.  I said *nothing* about "online" during my chat with him; I was referring to (and I think you know this) the AXS (formerly HDNet) agreement (and I've negotiated all 3 of the deals with the network, just me and the network, BTW) .  AXS is now available on regular and HD sat and cable packages -- as a result more people than ever can see it in their homes.  That was my point.

They're also not "quotes."  Read it again.  He was summarizing a conversation we had, and again, he misstated what I said.

OK, I'll let you get back to picking fights and pointing fingers.

Whether or not the quote is wrong is beside the point. You think the attendance numbers are dropping because of the game being on TV? No. That's not true.

DabashDad,

It is possible that many of the Alumni do not make the trip because they watch the game at home. This is similar to the same problem the NFL is confronting. The problem is that the students are not attending. Something is wrong when the students are not attending one of the greatest events during their college years. This is the issue DePauw needs to address. Owen was addressing all the reasons for the alumni and students not buying tickets.

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:15:39 PM
I offered that as one possible factor.  Period. 

But on what basis? Is there an actual correlation between the TV audience numbers and the numbers at the gate? It's almost certainly negligible.

That kind of diversion of focus--which you no doubt see as a kind of innocent protection of the school and its representatives--is, from my perspective, dangerous at this point. At best, it's slippery. At worst, it encourages a similar kind of "everything is cool" attitude during a time where everything is way, way not cool.

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 02, 2012, 12:21:20 PM
DabashDad,

It is possible that many of the Alumni do not make the trip because they watch the game at home. This is similar to the same problem the NFL is confronting. The problem is that the students are not attending. Something is wrong when the students are not attending one of the greatest events during their college years. This is the issue DePauw needs to address. Owen was addressing all the reasons for the alumni and students not buying tickets.

If this were true, it would be equally a problem for both sides. Did Wabash only sell 1,000 tickets last year? No. Has attendance been rapidly dropping ever since HDNet became involved? No. It's gone up. Proposing the idea that the attendance problem is related to TV audiences instead of Depauw's recent struggles as a football program is misleading.

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 12:33:42 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 02, 2012, 12:21:20 PM
DabashDad,

It is possible that many of the Alumni do not make the trip because they watch the game at home. This is similar to the same problem the NFL is confronting. The problem is that the students are not attending. Something is wrong when the students are not attending one of the greatest events during their college years. This is the issue DePauw needs to address. Owen was addressing all the reasons for the alumni and students not buying tickets.

If this were true, it would be equally a problem for both sides. Did Wabash only sell 1,000 tickets last year? No. Has attendance been rapidly dropping ever since HDNet became involved? No. It's gone up. Proposing the idea that the attendance problem is related to TV audiences instead of Depauw's recent struggles as a football program is misleading.

You forget that DeBash graduates can't afford televisions.

Yawn, dude.

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 12:38:50 PM
Yawn, dude.

You wanted an answer. Just my humble opinion.

Quote from: wabndy on November 02, 2012, 12:03:29 PM

QuoteTypically around this time, the game is either sold out or there are only a few hundred tickets left, Owen said. The last time DePauw played the bell game at Wabash in 2010, only around 300 tickets were left unsold.

OK - so even in 2010, when the dannies were 9-0, nationally ranked, SCAC champs, and headed to the playoffs  - they still couldn't sell their allotment to a bell game in C'ville?  I mean - I know the weather that day wasn't great that day but its not like we are talking about gameday ticket sales.  Geez guys.  Do what you have to do.  Pad your admissions stats. Steal some signals.  Recalculate prospective football players financial aid packages when you find out they are looking at Wabash. Just rebuild your program and make this game mean something to your fan base and to the prospective recruiting classes for both schools.

Isn't this what BW just got into trouble for. Not for football players specifically but athletes in general?

Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on November 02, 2012, 12:47:43 PM

Quote from: wabndy on November 02, 2012, 12:03:29 PM

QuoteTypically around this time, the game is either sold out or there are only a few hundred tickets left, Owen said. The last time DePauw played the bell game at Wabash in 2010, only around 300 tickets were left unsold.

OK - so even in 2010, when the dannies were 9-0, nationally ranked, SCAC champs, and headed to the playoffs  - they still couldn't sell their allotment to a bell game in C'ville?  I mean - I know the weather that day wasn't great that day but its not like we are talking about gameday ticket sales.  Geez guys.  Do what you have to do.  Pad your admissions stats. Steal some signals.  Recalculate prospective football players financial aid packages when you find out they are looking at Wabash. Just rebuild your program and make this game mean something to your fan base and to the prospective recruiting classes for both schools.

Isn't this what BW just got into trouble for. Not for football players specifically but athletes in general?

Caveboyzz being Caveboyzz.

Sad thing is we're talking about ticket sales and not the game itself.

a lot to digest here in terms of what's been written, but as much as it pains me to say this, it's tough for me to disagree with many of the Wabash points of view here.

I'm equally as upset that this story came out today.  not even a third of the tickets were sold??  that's a joke.  a laundry list of reasons has been given, but quite honestly what students have seen on the field the last 2 seasons, and a coach being fired this year/2-6 record pretty much sums it up to me.  I remember, and not long ago, if you didn't buy your tickets in the first few hours of availability - adios, better head to ebay. 

i do believe that the university is trying to stop some of the problems in their search...at least from knowing what they're looking for....but it needs to be implemented.

As an alum, the thought of missing this game makes me sick -- it's an event -- a can't miss -- just hope BOTH sides continue to treat it as such.

as for 1837Tigers -- keep it up with the TV deals -- great stuff -- quality coverage

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:08:24 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 11:38:01 AM

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:32:43 AM
"Owen said that less alums may travel to the game because the game is now easier to access online."

This, by the way, is exceptionally stupid. It's not available online and it's been broadcast nationally for well over a decade.

And he knows that.  These quotes are just embarrassing.

Wally, gotta step in.  I think you are smart enough to know that this came from a student journalist.  I said *nothing* about "online" during my chat with him; I was referring to (and I think you know this) the AXS (formerly HDNet) agreement (and I've negotiated all 3 of the deals with the network, just me and the network, BTW) .  AXS is now available on regular and HD sat and cable packages -- as a result more people than ever can see it in their homes.  That was my point.

They're also not "quotes."  Read it again.  He was summarizing a conversation we had, and again, he misstated what I said.

OK, I'll let you get back to picking fights and pointing fingers.

Fair enough if what you told the reporter is misrepresented in the article.  That's not your fault (I'd get that fixed though because it doesn't look good).  What I'm guessing didn't happen though is that you said "DePauw is unwatchably awful right now" and the reporter wrote it up as "people are content to watch the game online."  It's the blatant and brutal dishonesty that bugs me.  Y'all owe your students and alumni and fan base more than offering up some make believe about how  if attendance is down it's because the students are ignorant about how to get tickets (they aren't) or the alums are too lazy to make the trip (they aren't). 

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on November 02, 2012, 01:12:45 PM
a lot to digest here in terms of what's been written, but as much as it pains me to say this, it's tough for me to disagree with many of the Wabash points of view here.

I'm equally as upset that this story came out today.  not even a third of the tickets were sold??  that's a joke.  a laundry list of reasons has been given, but quite honestly what students have seen on the field the last 2 seasons, and a coach being fired this year/2-6 record pretty much sums it up to me.  I remember, and not long ago, if you didn't buy your tickets in the first few hours of availability - adios, better head to ebay. 

i do believe that the university is trying to stop some of the problems in their search...at least from knowing what they're looking for....but it needs to be implemented.

As an alum, the thought of missing this game makes me sick -- it's an event -- a can't miss -- just hope BOTH sides continue to treat it as such.

as for 1837Tigers -- keep it up with the TV deals -- great stuff -- quality coverage

I agree, 1837Tigers, your work for this game is above and beyond.

Irish you have about 40 family members in Indiana, can't they make the game?

But seriously, placing the blame on anything but lack of interest, or even laziness, is stretching the truth. I blame the University for not getting the students interested. The school should take out 30K from the activity fund, give every student a ticket, and bus them to the game. Ask the alumni to donate money to send a kid to the Monon Bell game. I really don't care what they do, but it is their obligation to make sure this game sells out every year.

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 12:22:50 PM

Quote from: 1837Tigers on November 02, 2012, 12:15:39 PM
I offered that as one possible factor.  Period. 

But on what basis? Is there an actual correlation between the TV audience numbers and the numbers at the gate? It's almost certainly negligible.

That kind of diversion of focus--which you no doubt see as a kind of innocent protection of the school and its representatives--is, from my perspective, dangerous at this point. At best, it's slippery. At worst, it encourages a similar kind of "everything is cool" attitude during a time where everything is way, way not cool.

Audience numbers for these broadcasts are not reliable enough by DMA to project a dip of a thousand people at the gate.

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 01:29:10 PM
What I'm guessing didn't happen though is that you said "DePauw is unwatchably awful right now"

You can't say that. For all the whacks you guys have taken at DePauw's PR, I would assume you would know this is not something you can say on the record (or at all to a student publication).

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2012, 01:48:44 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 01:29:10 PM
What I'm guessing didn't happen though is that you said "DePauw is unwatchably awful right now"

You can't say that. For all the whacks you guys have taken at DePauw's PR, I would assume you would know this is not something you can say on the record (or at all to a student publication).

There's nothing better than reading a game summary for a horrible team after they got absolutely pole-axed. I've seen some in basketball after 40 to 50 point games that say "Tic Tock Tech improved its shooting in the second half and held Pottsylvania to just 30 points in the last 15 minutes" - not saying they lost 102-49 and shot 28% for the game.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 02, 2012, 01:48:44 PM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 02, 2012, 01:29:10 PM
What I'm guessing didn't happen though is that you said "DePauw is unwatchably awful right now"

You can't say that. For all the whacks you guys have taken at DePauw's PR, I would assume you would know this is not something you can say on the record (or at all to a student publication).

I would imagine there are better ways to phrase it than I did there, but to be asked why you aren't selling tickets and completely ignore the obvious A-1 reason why is irresponsible. To pass the buck on to the students and alums makes it worse.  I don't think DePauw is under any obligation to talk about any of this with their student journos and especially if they don't want to acknowledge the obvious because the truth here is painful, then just no comment the thing and be done with it. 

Quote from: BashDad on November 02, 2012, 11:48:06 AM
They should just come out and say "The Depauw program hasn't lived up to the rivalry in recent years and people are not showing up because of it. We're gonna fix that."

Right? Why not just say that. Start generating actual enthusiasm for the next step.

This.  It's this right here.  If DePauw can't be secure enough to say that, or something similiar to that, then they just shouldn't talk about it at all.  Saying nothing at all is better than feeding the newspaper the trash that wound up in the article.  How dumb must DePauw's administration think their students and alumni are to think that any of what wound up in that article passes the smell test? 

Related:  DePauw's last home game attendance was 401!  Think about that...  401!!!

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 02, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
Related:  DePauw's last home game attendance was 401!  Think about that...  401!!!

Wow.

First and foremost, nobody on this board should be taking shots at Ken Owen.  I don't give two squirts of piss what he did or did not say, nor whether he was misquoted.  That guy has done more to preserve and advance the Bell tradition than anyone else on this board.  Ever.  To think he's capable of anything less is pure ignorance.  Sorry Ken, I know you are well-equipped to fight your own battles.

What exactly is the "news" here?  That DPU has only hit 1/3 capacity?  And we've used 3 pages talking about that?!  We all know why attendance has dipped -- DPU's program is suffering.  And we all know why it's suffering -- poor coaching/recruiting.  Bash does a great job of luring players and I credit Raeburn for that.  Hell, if I had an IQ of 75 and a taste for steroids I'd probably play for Wabash, too.  It's not hard to convince a meatbot to waste time at the C-Ville VoTech.  Walker's exit gets brought up on this board every season so it's nothing new, but I agree with Bear.  We need a great recruiter that embraces the tradition and wants to be the long-term solution.  I'm really looking forward to that guy's arrival.  If anything, maybe DPU's poor attendance will sound an alarm for the "powers that be."

Quote from: Danny Boy on November 02, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
First and foremost, nobody on this board should be taking shots at Ken Owen.  I don't give two squirts of piss what he did or did not say, nor whether he was misquoted.  That guy has done more to preserve and advance the Bell tradition than anyone else on this board.  Ever.  To think he's capable of anything less is pure ignorance.  Sorry Ken, I know you are well-equipped to fight your own battles.

What exactly is the "news" here?  That DPU has only hit 1/3 capacity?  And we've used 3 pages talking about that?!  We all know why attendance has dipped -- DPU's program is suffering.  And we all know why it's suffering -- poor coaching/recruiting.  Bash does a great job of luring players and I credit Raeburn for that.  Hell, if I had an IQ of 75 and a taste for steroids I'd probably play for Wabash, too.  It's not hard to convince a meatbot to waste time at the C-Ville VoTech.  Walker's exit gets brought up on this board every season so it's nothing new, but I agree with Bear.  We need a great recruiter that embraces the tradition and wants to be the long-term solution.  I'm really looking forward to that guy's arrival.  If anything, maybe DPU's poor attendance will sound an alarm for the "powers that be."

Well said Danny Boy. Can't wait to see you in one week.

A-Flippin'-Men Danny Boy....couldn't have said it better.

See TV contracts - Monon Memories of EVERY year - the list goes on....Owen is a Monon Bell traditionalist....

See you in a week -- guessing we'll be pulling into Crawfordstucky around this time or so

Quote from: Danny Boy on November 02, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
What exactly is the "news" here?  That DPU has only hit 1/3 capacity?  And we've used 3 pages talking about that?!

Credit where credit is due.  Ken has done an amazing job and put in a lot of thankless hours.  Appreciation from both ends of 231 is deserved.  Thank you.

What else do you want to talk about?  The only other proposed topic of discussion I've seen is bear's troll-like middle school bathroom humor and Pat's too good a moderator to let that go on for too long.  The game?  OK.  DePauw has had a rough two years.  You guys need a coach who can turn things around.  etc. etc.  You found a way to win against Wooster.  Its a start in the right direction.  What should anybody be worried about in eight days?  The best thing DePauw has going for it is that in bell games heavily favored sides, especially ones looking forward to the playoffs, playing down-on-their-luck opponents have eerily lost more often than not. Anybody following this board probably knows that already.

Can that happen this year?  Sure.  I don't think it will based on how Wabash has won its games both this season and the last two bell games.  ER likes to wear a team down and lean heavily on the O-line to dominate the second half and especially 4th quarter.  It happened at Witt and and OWU.  Wabash's season scores by quarter show that out: 1st- 46, 2nd-65, 3rd-65, 4th-82.  The past two bell games have shown depauw teams, especially on defense, that could not pick itself up after a few bad breaks and pretty much checked out of the game (along with those who did show up to to watch the tigers) after halftime.  DePauw is going to come out swinging.  I'm sure they have to be tired and pissed off about all the mess with Long's firing and constant negative chatter.  To have a even a snowball's chance - they are going to have to give up one or fewer turnovers in the first half and allow 0 points off turnovers.  THEN they are going to to have to figure out a way to keep Belton & co. off the field in the second half and get some quality relief from the second string.  Then we might, just might, have a ball game.  So there you go.

Quote from: wabndy on November 02, 2012, 05:48:57 PM

Quote from: Danny Boy on November 02, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
What exactly is the "news" here?  That DPU has only hit 1/3 capacity?  And we've used 3 pages talking about that?!

Credit where credit is due.  Ken has done an amazing job and put in a lot of thankless hours.  Appreciation from both ends of 231 is deserved.  Thank you.

What else do you want to talk about?  The only other proposed topic of discussion I've seen is bear's troll-like middle school bathroom humor and Pat's too good a moderator to let that go on for too long.  The game?  OK.  DePauw has had a rough two years.  You guys need a coach who can turn things around.  etc. etc.  You found a way to win against Wooster.  Its a start in the right direction.  What should anybody be worried about in eight days?  The best thing DePauw has going for it is that in bell games heavily favored sides, especially ones looking forward to the playoffs, playing down-on-their-luck opponents have eerily lost more often than not. Anybody following this board probably knows that already.

Can that happen this year?  Sure.  I don't think it will based on how Wabash has won its games both this season and the last two bell games.  ER likes to wear a team down and lean heavily on the O-line to dominate the second half and especially 4th quarter.  It happened at Witt and and OWU.  Wabash's season scores by quarter show that out: 1st- 46, 2nd-65, 3rd-65, 4th-82.  The past two bell games have shown depauw teams, especially on defense, that could not pick itself up after a few bad breaks and pretty much checked out of the game (along with those who did show up to to watch the tigers) after halftime.  DePauw is going to come out swinging.  I'm sure they have to be tired and pissed off about all the mess with Long's firing and constant negative chatter.  To have a even a snowball's chance - they are going to have to give up one or fewer turnovers in the first half and allow 0 points off turnovers.  THEN they are going to to have to figure out a way to keep Belton & co. off the field in the second half and get some quality relief from the second string.  Then we might, just might, have a ball game.  So there you go.

What "troll-like middle school bathroom humor" do you speak of Wadiny? I call a spade a spade. If you don't like my outspoken, blunt, to the point manner, or the fact that I call things by their proper names without any "beating about the bush", don't comment on it, don't pay attention to it, and don't try to get away with snide remarks like they won't get noticed.

The fact of the matter is when I attended DePauw, we hated you. We could care less about your school, your students, your alumni, and most importantly, your bush league football team. Sure, times have changed, but my feelings remain the same. You could blow DePauw out by 200 and I still will never, ever, change my feelings towards Dabash. "So there you go".

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 02, 2012, 03:46:37 PM
Related:  DePauw's last home game attendance was 401!  Think about that...  401!!!

Looking back on box scores for the Dannie home games, looks like they had 1225 and 1492 at first two games, 2500 at Old Gold (round numbers are suspicious but we will run with that), and then 401 vs Kenyon during a Fall Break Weekend - looks like parents and girlfriends and maybe 1 person from Kenyon - where are the alumni?  They don't have Fall Break.  Doesn't look like anyone is rallying to the flag right now.

Ah, the annual Bear/Danny Boy show never fails to bring forth beginnings of the Holiday Season - from a Scut Farkas/Grover Dill perspective.  ;D

All ticklers aside, wholly agree with your assessments particularly when it comes to 1837's dedication and efforts to maintain/enhance the importance of the Monon rivalry.  Both sides are very fortunate to have Mssrs Owen and Harris as respective mouthpieces - two of the best regardless of Division.

And @ Bear, may we have a third year in a row where I'm fishing upstream of you - still laughing about your excretory offering.  Some of us are meant to call 'em as we see them.   ;)       

Quote from: cave2bens on November 03, 2012, 10:06:29 AM
Ah, the annual Bear/Danny Boy show never fails to bring forth beginnings of the Holiday Season - from a Scut Farkas/Grover Dill perspective.  ;D

All ticklers aside, wholly agree with your assessments particularly when it comes to 1837's dedication and efforts to maintain/enhance the importance of the Monon rivalry.  Both sides are very fortunate to have Mssrs Owen and Harris as respective mouthpieces - two of the best regardless of Division.

And @ Bear, may we have a third year in a row where I'm fishing upstream of you - still laughing about your excretory offering.  Some of us are meant to call 'em as we see them.   ;)     

Funny you should say that Cave2Boyzzz, I just got off the river. Anytime you want to fish upstream of me, go ahead, I will show you the caliber of the big hogs you missed. Similar to you hasty choice in a Technical College to the North, you missed out on a higher quality University to the South. Once again you are mistaken that those up stream always have it better.

I hope you get to enjoy a "Chinese turkey" next Saturday, Ralphie.

How many of you stuck your head inside the bell when it clapped?

Just drank beer out of it...best tasting brew ever!

November 4, 1907 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHG2Wln2BW8

All 'Monon Memories':

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7132D62E7C8E99EE&feature=view_all

I have been quiet on this site since the earliest weeks of the season because graduate school keeps me incredibly busy. BUT, I am thrilled that Bell Week is finally upon us. DePauw has made some improvement this season, and will come into Crawfordsville fired up on Saturday (No class wants to be remembered for losing four Bell Games).

The Little Giants likely have nothing to play for but pride, as their postseason hopes were likely dashed with the losses to Allegheny and Oberlin. Time will tell on Sunday whether they make it to the Big Dance, but for now, their focus is on keeping The Bell in Crawfordsville for another 365 days.

Regardless of if you are for Mitt Romney or Barack Obama, let's hope we can come together in spirited banter this week for this most special of rivalry games.

But, let me take a second to jab our Danny opponents--I have a lot of respect for Ken Owen, but for anybody to suggest that DePauw's woes in attendance have any other root than the abysmal state of the program, well they aren't just thinking very clearly and would likely be good candidates for Press Secretary in either presidential administration.

http://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/29137/

Gentlemen and Breckenridgebear,

Happy Bell week.  That is all. 

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 05, 2012, 10:38:31 AM
Gentlemen and Breckenridgebear,

Happy Bell week.  That is all.

Thank you Dawally-Dabash.

http://youtu.be/hdtysGVh47k

November 5, 1892 - http://youtu.be/uD_9MtBijAA

There will be no sidebars about seeding or scoreboard watching this week. Win the Bell, men of Wabash! After you secure the prize, then glance at other results.

Depauw Gentlemen, Fans, Alumni, and Friends,

Long before the cannonball travelled through her towns, the state of Indiana owned the jewel of the crown, the train, they called the Monon, the stories they still tell, the Cavemen and the Tigers playing for her bell.

Wow. Although Monon Week did officially started Saturday November 3, 2012, it is time to take note of the importance of this week and the importance of this game.

As you know, no matter what the records, only one game counts every year. In preparation for the week, I would like you all to remember a few things. Remember this game is for those great teams who have played on the sacred field at Blackstock and have battled the Boyzz of Dabash at Toilet Field. Such as that legendary Depauw team, who on November, 22, 1890 started the Monon tradition with an ass-kicking of Wabash, beating the DaWally's 34-5 in Crawfordsville; that team in 1892 who slapped Dabash with a 42-4 shellacking; or that 1973 team who rushed against Wabash for 80 plays to win the game 28-21; or, the team who played from 1997-2000, winning 4 Monon Bells, outscoring Dabash 104-38 over the stretch, including a 42-7 stomping in 1998; or, the 1914 team who in the middle of a snowstorm, wins 3-0, with a dropkick by the fullback; or when in 1920 when DePauw quarterback "Galloping" Galloway booted a 52-yard drop kick with three minutes left to give DePauw a 3-0 win at Indianapolis' Washington Park; those teams from 1955 through 1964 who did not lose to the Cavemen; and let us never forget that class of 1933 who under legendary Raymond "Gaumey" Neal went on to a 7-0 record having not lost, tied, or been scored upon during the whole season, a feat which can never be replicated.

Let us remember this game for its historic players who have had so much success wearing the Black and Gold.  Players like Bart Simpson, who from 1971-1974 rushed for 2941 yards; or, Spud Dick, who passed for 9312 yards from 2006 through 2009; or Dan Ryan, who had three receptions for touchdowns in 4 different games between 2001-2002; or what about, Alan Hill with four interceptions for 159 yards against St Norbert on September 5, 1981; or, when trailing 21-13, the Tigers tied the contest with 3:37 left on a touchdown and two-point conversion before backup kicker Jordan Havercamp won the game with a 47-yard field goal as time expired, the field goal was his first attempt of the season, cementing him a living legend; Jeremiah Marks, who between 2004 and 2007 rushed for 3869 yards, including a 2007 Monon Bell game in which he attempted 45 carries, and a game in which he scored 5 touchdowns against Colorado College; Dustin Hertel, who totaled 37 sacks during his career; Jamie Cunha who in 1996 against Dabash had 3 Touchdown receptions; or who can forget, Tyler Kelley, who only had 71 receptions during his career from 1996-1999, but looked damn sexy while he was doing it. Let us never forget those graduating classes of 1893, 1963, 9164, 1990, 1999, and 2000 which NEVER lost a Bell game to dabash. These men had hatred for those caveboyzz from Crawfordstucky.  These are the men who the game is played for today. .   

Let us remember the shame that has fallen upon those classes who have lost to an all male college. Let us remember the last few years and the loses the Men of Depauw have faced against the Caveboyzzz. 

Dabash. A College of only men governed by the "GentleBoyzz's Rule".  A Rule scrutinized for it lack of control over the heathens of Dabash.  An all male (i.e. Boyzz) college where a student's only interaction with a female (during four years of college) is when they hug their mother, see their sister during a break from college, or when they speak to the clerk at the local Kroger or Carl Jr's. Remember these boyzz of Dabash are not men (we all know what it was like to be a man in college, these boyzz never get to experience that in college), they are weak humans scared of the fairer sex. This segregation from women does not make these "men" better, but puts them at a disadvantage. Not only are they socially awkward, but they grow up wondering what a date is and how to go on a date, and how to treat a women with respect that they deserve.  You must ask yourself, "What kind of world would we live in if Dabash was the norm?". I will tell you it is not a world I want to live in.   

Not only is DePauw's winning necessary to rectify this past season, but a win for Depauw is a win for the way of life for all men at co-ed Universities. A win for Depauw is a win for all men, not boyzz, in the world. A win for Depauw is a win for those who enjoy fraternity parties with women and beer in abundance, not just a Saturday night playing with the boyzzz. A win for Depauw is a win for all man who has hooked up with two, three, or even more women in one night/weekend. A win for Depauw is a win for everything that is right in the world.

For some of you, I do not need to explain the importance of Monon Week.  This is that time of year when you are allowed to eat only bloody, read meat for three meals a day and wash it down with ice cold domestic beer. This is the week where you get to fight random strangers for "bad eyeing" you, or merely for the fact that you didn't like the Crimson and Red in their tie, or that they drive a red car.  This is the week where showering with soap is purely optional. This is the week where any conversations with others must either concern, 1) discussions about football, beer, women, meat, or fighting; 2) a comparison of Michael Engle, Spud Dick, Bernie Haskins, and Jason Lee; or 3) your hatred for the color red. This is the week where human life becomes cheap, and only those who deserve it are allowed to survive.

Ding MotherF**king Dong, Welcome to Monon week!!!

See you all Friday night. Come by V.O.L. and have a drink.

Quote from: wabndy on November 02, 2012, 05:48:57 PM
To have a even a snowball's chance - they are going to have to give up one or fewer turnovers in the first half and allow 0 points off turnovers.  THEN they are going to to have to figure out a way to keep Belton & co. off the field in the second half and get some quality relief from the second string.  Then we might, just might, have a ball game.

I agree that the Wally offense needs to stay on the sideline if we want to avoid witnessing another 40+ massacre.  Problem is, DPU can't burn the clock by running the ball.  IMO, that's the 2nd aspect DPU needs to address for the future (the 1st being special teams -- having PATs blocked is unacceptable).  The ground attack has been abysmal and the days of Dick to Koors are behind us.  Air attacks won't work when you encounter another Snow Bowl and it's disappointing that the Tigers have become so one-dimensional.  I won't dread turnovers so long as the Tigers can force a few of their own.  Burn the clock, boys.  Slow and steady might actually win this race if the FGs don't get blocked  >:(

Irish, you'd look damn good coaching the Black and Gold.  So good, the Wallies would be tossing you their panties and room keys.

Oh, and Happy Monon to all, and to all a good fight.

Along with all the other things that go on this week, on Thursday night Frank Kolisek and Alan Hill will receive the Spirit of the Monon Bell Award at the annual Monon Bell Stag.  They are both outstanding representatives of their schools.  Congratulations to them and to those who made the choices.
     For the last couple of years, it's been good to see President Casey at the event rather than that bad, stiff, mangy-haired look alike of a former DePauw president.  Hey, bear do you come to that dinner?  If you are there, look me up.  I'd like to see the author of all those witty remarks.  Seriously.   
     Wabash Always Fights.
     DePauw Never Quits.     
     Two thoughts on how to approach life. 

Here's your stat breakdown for the 119th Monon Bell Classic. 

Stat	Wabash	Nat'l Rank	DePauw	Nat'l Rank
Rush O	202.89	50	85.00	218
Pass O	203.11	111	232.44	75
Total O	406.00	64	317.44	167
Scoring O	30.44	75	19.67	166
Rush D	85.33	15	154.78	119
Pass Eff. D	107.03	40	135.21	174
Total D	312.89	55	394.78	170
Scoring D	14.56	19	30.22	174
Net Punting	32.85	83	29.94	174
Punt Ret	9.86	76	8.58	94
KO Ret	20.45	76	20.61	67
TO Margin	0.56	57	-0.33	159
Pass D	227.56	185	240.00	208
Pass Eff	151.08	41	98.63	204
Sacks	2.89	37	2.22	77
TFL	8.33	t-17	7.78	31
Sacks Against	2.33	156	2.56	180

Results vs. common opponents:

	Wittenberg	Carnegie Mellon	WashU	OWU	Allegheny	Wooster	Denison
Wabash	W, 27-24	W, 56-28	W, 34-14	W, 28-0	L, 17-20	W, 30-0	W, 35-2
DePauw	L, 14-52	L, 28-51	W, 17-14	L, 22-26	L, 20-22	W, 27-16	L, 20-39

Quote from: sigma one on November 05, 2012, 04:10:12 PM
Along with all the other things that go on this week, on Thursday night Frank Kolisek and Alan Hill will receive the Spirit of the Monon Bell Award at the annual Monon Bell Stag.  They are both outstanding representatives of their schools.  Congratulations to them and to those who made the choices.
     For the last couple of years, it's been good to see President Casey at the event rather than that bad, stiff, mangy-haired look alike of a former DePauw president.  Hey, bear do you come to that dinner?  If you are there, look me up.  I'd like to see the author of all those witty remarks.  Seriously.   
     Wabash Always Fights.
     DePauw Never Quits.     
     Two thoughts on how to approach life.

Sigma One,

I do not make it in for the Stag, as we have our own Monon traditions on Thursday and Friday night. Althought I think it is a great event, and feel it is one of the best parts of the Monon Bell game, I don't see myself attending in the near future.

We will be in the Crawfordstucky visitor lot all day Saturday. The same as every year, you are all invited to come by, yet none of you have. Look me up. Seriously.

Hey Bear

just shared the 80's version of the Ballad with my 2 year old son

He smiled every time he saw the train, the Bell and women -- all great signs

Quote from: DPUIrish1 on November 05, 2012, 06:04:56 PM
Hey Bear

just shared the 80's version of the Ballad with my 2 year old son

He smiled every time he saw the train, the Bell and women -- all great signs

I do the same thing.

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 05, 2012, 04:28:14 PM
We will be in the Crawfordstucky visitor lot all day Saturday. The same as every year, you are all invited to come by, yet none of you have. Look me up. Seriously.

I'll come by to visit you Bear. How will I know it's you?

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 05, 2012, 06:40:15 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 05, 2012, 04:28:14 PM
We will be in the Crawfordstucky visitor lot all day Saturday. The same as every year, you are all invited to come by, yet none of you have. Look me up. Seriously.

I'll come by to visit you Bear. How will I know it's you?

You can't miss our R.V. It is the one with a bunch of middle age guys having more fun than anyone else.

Danny Boy, Irish, and I can't wait to see you.

Bear, I will try to do that as long as no one in your group tries to steal a Wabash hat off the head of a failing senior citizen.

sigma - this is a PROMISE - all are welcome....we'd love to have you

seriously

Quote from: sigma one on November 05, 2012, 09:30:36 PM
Bear, I will try to do that as long as no one in your group tries to steal a Wabash hat off the head of a failing senior citizen.

Dabash Hat? Don't they call those beanies?  Or Pots?

Is it just me, or has being in the same conference has really muffled the gab this year?  In previous years, there were no common opponents, and each side could argue their bad record was against a strong schedule, good record against a bad schedule, etc.  I know we throw records out for the ding dong dance, but does having multiple common opponents kill some of the mystery and excitement?

Quote from: Ralph Lee Wilson on November 06, 2012, 04:36:53 PM
Is it just me, or has being in the same conference has really muffled the gab this year?  In previous years, there were no common opponents, and each side could argue their bad record was against a strong schedule, good record against a bad schedule, etc.  I know we throw records out for the ding dong dance, but does having multiple common opponents kill some of the mystery and excitement?

I think DePauw has been hit one too many times in the gap this year to really support any talk about the team.

Otherwise, we already know we are better than everything and anyone to come from Dabash, so there is not much else to say. 

Bear, man, you are good on your Wabash lore.  Pots:  freshmen, back in the day, except for the Phi Delts. Pots=Beanies.  Mine is just a hat.  By the by, DePauw freshmen wore their own version--back in the day.

I think the fact that DPU has stink stank stunk this year has cancelled out some of the talk. Can you imagine if this was for the "A" bid?

Quote from: sigma one on November 06, 2012, 06:20:29 PM
Bear, man, you are good on your Wabash lore.  Pots:  freshmen, back in the day, except for the Phi Delts. Pots=Beanies.  Mine is just a hat.  By the by, DePauw freshmen wore their own version--back in the day.

Know your enemy.

could careless about common opponents --

in the past it didn't matter when both teams were in same conference....it's just something we turn to to try and get some kind of feel for the game.

But this is Monon -- we can't go back to wins/losses in week 3 and bring them over in any way. 

I rid of everything of red in the house this week -- there was limited available anyway. 

Mighty quiet in here since Debash lost.

It looks like dawallies have given up, hopefully their football team has done the same.

November 7, 1970 - http://youtu.be/nF2d8RfmRjA

Nope. Not going to happen. There's way too much at stake Saturday. In fact, if things break right Wabash could still play in Week 11, whilst you all will be drinking your Zima out of your "Dan Quayle '96" glasses.

Quote from: smedindy on November 07, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Nope. Not going to happen. There's way too much at stake Saturday. In fact, if things break right Wabash could still play in Week 11, whilst you all will be drinking your Zima out of your "Dan Quayle '96" glasses.

HAHAHAHAHA. Keep dreaming.

By the way, do you know where I can get some Zima? My stock has run out since they stopped producing the stuff in 2008.

Breck,

It amazes me that you and the other 2 DPU fans (total) continue to throw stuff around when the last 2 Bell games have been a whopping Wabash 92, Dannies 7.  Seriously.  92-7 bro, that's not a joke, Wabash has scored 92 points, and the Mighty Tiggers have scored 7 points. 

#92-7

DPU attendance speculations for Saturday by quarter:

At kick:  732
After Q1:  658
At half:  345
After Q3:  107
At the buzzer:  16

WAF ding ding.

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 07, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
Breck,

It amazes me that you and the other 2 DPU fans (total) continue to throw stuff around when the last 2 Bell games have been a whopping Wabash 92, Dannies 7.  Seriously.  92-7 bro, that's not a joke, Wabash has scored 92 points, and the Mighty Tiggers have scored 7 points. 

#92-7

DPU attendance speculations for Saturday by quarter:

At kick:  732
After Q1:  658
At half:  345
After Q3:  107
At the buzzer:  16

WAF ding ding.

You finally show up and this is your input?  Have your mother read you the previous 9 pages on this board and you'll hear that the last 2 years has already been referenced.  Repeatedly.  Glad you like to hang your tampon on 2010 and 2011.  We fondly remember our tour of duty from 1997, 1998, 1999, and 2000.  Those are the years we most enjoy referencing. 

The quietness is interesting...I'll give you that. Perhaps everybody has been paying too close attention to the Election to be on here this week. But, I'll try with some analysis to liven up the discussion.

IMO, DePauw has gotten better each week since Coach Long's canning. Throw the results of the last two years out. They don't matter. DePauw's players WILL NOT want to lose four games in a row. That doesn't make up for big talent differential, but, can be a motivating factor, especially in a rivlary game.

Wabash got beat by Oberlin, which again underscores that anything is possible. Oberlin beat them by passing last week--short passes, long passes, screens, bubbles. DePauw is a pretty good passing time. Pretty bad rushing team. So, they are one-dimensional but in an area Wabash has struggled against.

What's going to happen on Saturday? I don't know. I do know Wabash has been good at responding to losses in the past. Maybe it's because my guy lost yesterday, but I've got to tell you, I'm kind of worried about this weekend.

Comment away...

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 07, 2012, 01:55:42 PM
Breck,

It amazes me that you and the other 2 DPU fans (total) continue to throw stuff around when the last 2 Bell games have been a whopping Wabash 92, Dannies 7.  Seriously.  92-7 bro, that's not a joke, Wabash has scored 92 points, and the Mighty Tiggers have scored 7 points. 

#92-7

DPU attendance speculations for Saturday by quarter:

At kick:  732
After Q1:  658
At half:  345
After Q3:  107
At the buzzer:  16

WAF ding ding.

What number will you be wearing on Saturday so I can make sure to watch you?

Stop living in the past, Dabashbacker.

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 07, 2012, 03:12:01 PM
The quietness is interesting...I'll give you that. Perhaps everybody has been paying too close attention to the Election to be on here this week. But, I'll try with some analysis to liven up the discussion.

IMO, DePauw has gotten better each week since Coach Long's canning. Throw the results of the last two years out. They don't matter. DePauw's players WILL NOT want to lose four games in a row. That doesn't make up for big talent differential, but, can be a motivating factor, especially in a rivlary game.

Wabash got beat by Oberlin, which again underscores that anything is possible. Oberlin beat them by passing last week--short passes, long passes, screens, bubbles. DePauw is a pretty good passing time. Pretty bad rushing team. So, they are one-dimensional but in an area Wabash has struggled against.

What's going to happen on Saturday? I don't know. I do know Wabash has been good at responding to losses in the past. Maybe it's because my guy lost yesterday, but I've got to tell you, I'm kind of worried about this weekend.

Comment away...

Are you sure you went to Debash? This isn't where the Depauw Grad jumps out and says "GOTCHA" is it?

One of the best posts from a Wally in years. I applaud you, sir.

Email sent out about watch parties, even the NCAA is more concerned about the game on TV than the actual live game.

"My name is Courtney Cronin and I work in digital communications for the NCAA. My colleague Kayci Woodley and I are currently working on a story about the Monon Bell Classic and how it is one of the oldest and most storied rivalries in all of college sports. We recently learned that there are several Monon Bell viewing parties occurring throughout the country this coming Saturday and you are receiving this email because your name was associated as the liaison for the various watch parties.

On Monday, Nov. 19, we will have an in depth video and written feature on the front page of www.ncaa.org highlighting various aspects of the rivalry, two football student-athletes that we got a chance to follow around this week as they prepare for Saturday's game, how the community and alumni bases are involved in celebrating the traiditions of Monon Bell week year after year, etc.

What we need from you are videos/photos from your watch parties, highlighting the experience of the alumni and fans who were unable to make it back to the game in person.

Here's what you need to do:

1. When your team is in the red zone, get your phones out and film the celebration after the ensuing touchdown or big goal line stop.

2. After you have taken a video, Tweet it at @NCAADIII and we will retweet it to the rest of our followers.

3. If you are able to send the video to us in an email, we will use it in our larger video piece that debuts on Nov. 19th. Please send us the video file in an email to ccronin@ncaa.org. If the file is too big, go ahead and use WeTransfer, a free and easy-to-use file sharing site that will allow you to send us the video.

Please remember to take photos during your watch parties and tweet them @NCAADIII or share them on the Division III Facebook page. We will retweet/share them so all of our followers can see how amped up and big time the Monon Bell rivalry is and how it has two of the most loyal fan bases in all of college sports.

Lastly, if you believe you will be able to take photos/videos from your watch parties, please send me an email at your earliest conveninece so we can know the number of people we should expect to hear from on Saturday. Send us as many or as few videos/photos of your watch party experience as you'd like. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at ccronin@ncaa.org.

Thanks for your time! We look forward to seeing how YOU celebrate at your Monon Bell watch parties.

Best,

Courtney Cronin"

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 07, 2012, 05:33:42 PM

Are you sure you went to Debash? This isn't where the Depauw Grad jumps out and says "GOTCHA" is it?

One of the best posts from a Wally in years. I applaud you, sir.

Nope, am a Wabash graduate. But, I did grow up in Greencastle. I love this rivalry more than a lot of things in life, and am excited to revel in fellowship with friends on both sides of the fight.

WAF!

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 07, 2012, 06:52:12 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 07, 2012, 05:33:42 PM

Are you sure you went to Debash? This isn't where the Depauw Grad jumps out and says "GOTCHA" is it?

One of the best posts from a Wally in years. I applaud you, sir.

Nope, am a Wabash graduate. But, I did grow up in Greencastle. I love this rivalry more than a lot of things in life, and am excited to revel in fellowship with friends on both sides of the fight.

WAF!

Can I buy you a beer before the game on Saturday?

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 07, 2012, 07:37:34 PM

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 07, 2012, 06:52:12 PM

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 07, 2012, 05:33:42 PM

Are you sure you went to Debash? This isn't where the Depauw Grad jumps out and says "GOTCHA" is it?

One of the best posts from a Wally in years. I applaud you, sir.

Nope, am a Wabash graduate. But, I did grow up in Greencastle. I love this rivalry more than a lot of things in life, and am excited to revel in fellowship with friends on both sides of the fight.

WAF!

Can I buy you a beer before the game on Saturday?

Sure thing boss, I look forward to meeting you all on Saturday!

One thing I just noticed.....   If what I am reading is true,  since 1932 the series is tied....  37-37-6  Thus, the 2012 Bell Game is an opportunity for Wabash to take the Lead in Monon Bell wins for the first time in since 1960 which was the last time Wabash held the lead in Monon Bell Games... at 13-12-4

Series Ties  -

1961 - 13-13-4
1986 - 25-25-5
1995 - 29-29-6

This series has always been close.... very cool

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 07, 2012, 03:12:01 PM
The quietness is interesting...I'll give you that. Perhaps everybody has been paying too close attention to the Election to be on here this week. But, I'll try with some analysis to liven up the discussion.

IMO, DePauw has gotten better each week since Coach Long's canning. Throw the results of the last two years out. They don't matter. DePauw's players WILL NOT want to lose four games in a row. That doesn't make up for big talent differential, but, can be a motivating factor, especially in a rivlary game.

Wabash got beat by Oberlin, which again underscores that anything is possible. Oberlin beat them by passing last week--short passes, long passes, screens, bubbles. DePauw is a pretty good passing time. Pretty bad rushing team. So, they are one-dimensional but in an area Wabash has struggled against.

What's going to happen on Saturday? I don't know. I do know Wabash has been good at responding to losses in the past. Maybe it's because my guy lost yesterday, but I've got to tell you, I'm kind of worried about this weekend.

Comment away...

well said Wally -- Way to actually bring something other than 92-7 to the table...yeah, we get, we know.  We could all go back and reference a series of games ( 4 to be exact in my case ) but, Wallyworld actually broke down some football.

I'm with you in that I just have that feeling in my gut something will be different on Saturday.  I'm not saying DePauw wins the game, but I think the game will be close -- and it won't feel right when we're watching it.....but I do agree, regardless of the 2-7 record, DPU has performed better without Long.

I'm just not a big fan of the 2 QB system.  Seaman is a better thrower with Bell experience, while Murray is a better athlete.  However, I know DeBash has had success with a similar system in the past.

Quote from: smedindy on November 07, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Nope. Not going to happen. There's way too much at stake Saturday. In fact, if things break right Wabash could still play in Week 11, whilst you all will be drinking your Zima out of your "Dan Quayle '96" glasses.

I hope Wabash plays in Week 11! There's a couple hundred teams playing in Week 11.

Quote from: Breckenridgebear on November 07, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
We recently learned that there are several Monon Bell viewing parties occurring throughout the country this coming Saturday

Also, we recently learned there was a Division III.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 08, 2012, 01:16:56 AM

Quote from: smedindy on November 07, 2012, 11:34:50 AM
Nope. Not going to happen. There's way too much at stake Saturday. In fact, if things break right Wabash could still play in Week 11, whilst you all will be drinking your Zima out of your "Dan Quayle '96" glasses.

I hope Wabash plays in Week 11! There's a couple hundred teams playing in Week 11.

Derp!

Reports coming in from Crawfordsville that our friends to the South attempted to steal The Bell last night. Apparently about a dozen or so Dannies made the trip from Greencastle, came across some sleeping TKEs and made the grab, only to be thwarted by the pledges of Sigma Chi.

Congrats to the Wabash Men for successfully defending our prize, and to the Dannies for making an attempt to steal. I'm surprised they even knew what it looked like!

RE: report above -- Great to hear of old traditions being renewed.

November 8 in Monon history

1919  http://youtu.be/_7NjSY8TfH8

1980  http://youtu.be/mi_6Pa0z7nE

1986  http://youtu.be/j5O-5oeV4Bw

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 08, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Reports coming in from Crawfordsville that our friends to the South attempted to steal The Bell last night. Apparently about a dozen or so Dannies made the trip from Greencastle, came across some sleeping TKEs and made the grab, only to be thwarted by the pledges of Sigma Chi.

Congrats to the Wabash Men for successfully defending our prize, and to the Dannies for making an attempt to steal. I'm surprised they even knew what it looked like!

Asleep at the Bell?!  Oh no no no no.  I know those freshmen are plenty sleep deprived as is, but we gotta do better fellas. 

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 08, 2012, 10:46:13 AM

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 08, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Reports coming in from Crawfordsville that our friends to the South attempted to steal The Bell last night. Apparently about a dozen or so Dannies made the trip from Greencastle, came across some sleeping TKEs and made the grab, only to be thwarted by the pledges of Sigma Chi.

Congrats to the Wabash Men for successfully defending our prize, and to the Dannies for making an attempt to steal. I'm surprised they even knew what it looked like!

Asleep at the Bell?!  Oh no no no no.  I know those freshmen are plenty sleep deprived as is, but we gotta do better fellas.

Ah, no, see...it was a TRAP!

Quote from: smedindy on November 08, 2012, 10:52:46 AM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 08, 2012, 10:46:13 AM

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 08, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Reports coming in from Crawfordsville that our friends to the South attempted to steal The Bell last night. Apparently about a dozen or so Dannies made the trip from Greencastle, came across some sleeping TKEs and made the grab, only to be thwarted by the pledges of Sigma Chi.

Congrats to the Wabash Men for successfully defending our prize, and to the Dannies for making an attempt to steal. I'm surprised they even knew what it looked like!

Asleep at the Bell?!  Oh no no no no.  I know those freshmen are plenty sleep deprived as is, but we gotta do better fellas.

Ah, no, see...it was a TRAP!

In the years past I would jump on the opportunity to comment on a room full of Debash Boyzzz sound asleep, together, but times have change for me, looks like they are the same in Crawfordstucky.

Glad to hear there was an attempt on the Bell. Even though the word is that few DePauw students will be attending the game, it looks like some actually care.

Additional note on the great Danny heist failure of 2012:

    During the scuffle, which I've been told by students was between TKEs and the Dannies, the handle of the Bell was broken off.  The handle is currently being welded back on and will be able to dingding all day and night on Saturday in Crawfordsville.

In the words of the famed Operation Frijoles poster, congratulations Dannies on winning the No-Bell Prize!

Quote from: smedindy on November 08, 2012, 10:52:46 AM

Quote from: wally_wabash on November 08, 2012, 10:46:13 AM

Quote from: wallyworld12 on November 08, 2012, 10:25:07 AM
Reports coming in from Crawfordsville that our friends to the South attempted to steal The Bell last night. Apparently about a dozen or so Dannies made the trip from Greencastle, came across some sleeping TKEs and made the grab, only to be thwarted by the pledges of Sigma Chi.

Congrats to the Wabash Men for successfully defending our prize, and to the Dannies for making an attempt to steal. I'm surprised they even knew what it looked like!

Asleep at the Bell?!  Oh no no no no.  I know those freshmen are plenty sleep deprived as is, but we gotta do better fellas.

Ah, no, see...it was a TRAP!

Here's a post describing the attempted heist that was relayed through my fraternity's alumni Facebook page:
"At 4:30 am about 3 vehicles filled with dannies came and parked by the football field. We had 3 TKE's guarding the bell and a couple of Sig Chi's and TKE's in the chapel. There were about 6 dannies who pinned down our 3 TKE's and about 5 other dannies came to carry it away, but on hearing the yelling of the TKE's the guys inside the chapel came out and tackled to stop the dannies taking the bell. Which caused the bell fall and break the handle. After hearing this commotion Wabash Security came to the scene and chased the Dannies off campus in his Minivan. This is what I heard from one of the Sig Chi pledges that were in the chapel."

Quote from: Ralph Lee Wilson on November 08, 2012, 01:19:40 PM
Additional note on the great Danny heist failure of 2012:

    During the scuffle, which I've been told by students was between TKEs and the Dannies, the handle of the Bell was broken off.  The handle is currently being welded back on and will be able to dingding all day and night on Saturday in Crawfordsville.

Good thing welding is part of the curriculum.

Hey all -- this is a joint announcement from DePauw and Wabash --

Both teams have tickets remaining for the 119th battle for the Bell. We've decided to open ticket booths on both sides of the field Saturday morning.

Ticket booths will open at 11 a.m. on both sides of the field. A limited number of tickets will be available at $15. When they're gone, they're gone. If tickets still remain, the booths will close when the game kicks off, which is set for 1:07.

Please, tell your friends... bring some people who need to see what a great rivalry this is... the forecast looks terrific and we all know that lots of things -- in fact, anything -- can happen at a Monon Bell game.

Thanks! - Ken Owen & Jim Amidon

Also from Depauw:

http://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/29165/


The times are changing. New field and stadium in the future. Dabash better recognize.

it's impossible not to LOVE DePauw's attempt at a heist

solely for the fact that this game, this rivalry, this history means something to current students.  not just all of us who attended/played in the game in the past.

would've loved to see video from that brawl -- wow

24 hours from now, we should be pulling into Crawfordstucky.  You'll know it's us.

Yes,  great to see some passion from the students.   Let's hope the team brings it as well on Saturday.  This rivalry has always had it.  I predict 27-14 Wabash.....  but it will be a game until the 4th qtr.

Also,  I am helping to organize a telecast party here in South Florida,  only have 3 people that have said they will be there.
If you know of any alums in South Florida let me know,  the venue has been moved from Miami,  up to Deerfield Beach.

This is pretty awesome! 

1979 piece on the Monon Bell game from the TV show "Sunday Morning"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0KDhoxLgs

Remember when both sides could walk on the other side???  I've said it before but several times we had to change ends of the field for the extra point when fights in the crowd would spill over on to the field.

Quote from: BashBacker#16 on November 08, 2012, 06:16:00 PM
This is pretty awesome! 

1979 piece on the Monon Bell game from the TV show "Sunday Morning"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0KDhoxLgs

Remember when both sides could walk on the other side???  I've said it before but several times we had to change ends of the field for the extra point when fights in the crowd would spill over on to the field.

That is awesome.

About to leave to travel to Crawfordstucky. Safe travels all, see you at V.O.L. Wabash still sucks.

BB

Was very awesome.

Love that DePauw changed jerseys at the half....great find.

See you in a few hours Breck....

as for those going to the Stagg tonight -- fill us in on the sights and sounds

Glad you guys enjoyed the piece -- I taped it while home for Tgiving break sophomore year.  Glad I was able to transfer it when I did... it's an old Beta tape, now unplayable.  It's a bonus clip on the 2008 Monon set, which also contains all Memories (1890-2008)...

Great Stag last night.  We all wish more DePauw alums, even a few students (there are always some Wabash students attending), would show up for the fun and games.  Wabash had the numbers by about 4/1.  Congratulations to Alan Hill and Frank Kolisek on taking home the Spirit of the Monon Bell helmets.  Alan is a more than worthy representative of DePauw.  His introduction was by DJ, Daryl Johnson, outstanding Little Giant running back from Alan's era.  In addition to his football excellence, Alan was the NCAA champion in the pole vault.  Alan has spent his adult life working with young people, mostly in college and universities.  Kolisek, known to many Wabash people as "fat Frank," is an outstanding surgeon, who still holds the Wabash record for consecutive extra points made.  A DePauw colleague at OrthoIndy introduced him.
      Two entertaining roasters.  The best DPU roaster in years; some terrific zingers, accompanied by an effective slide show.  Jake Knott for Wabash; he repeated his strong performance from a couple of years ago, and also used clever slides.   A tape of this event should be required viewing for all DePauw and Wabash students.
  Pat White in attendance; Brian Casey not.  President Casey had business on campus with DPU's "Board of Trustees."  Sorry, DePauw uses a different name; can't remember it. Page Cotton nicely filled in for him.  But it wasn't the amusing back and forth that White and Casey have produced for several years. The usual man food and speculation about the game.  Most seem to think it will be closer than recently.  I agree.
      That's a brief synopsis, as requested. 

Just posted:
http://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/29169/

AXS promo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLzvD0GQMrk

Time for the pre-game slumber.  I hope everybody traveling to the game has a good and safe time on campus tomorrow.  I hope everybody at telecast parties around the nation have a good time celebrating the rivalry in glorious hi-definition. 

Our game is awesome, guys.  It's the best event in Division III hands down.  Final score be damned, relish in the greatness of this game tomorrow.  And next year, bring your friends back (all of us) to watch it live and in person. 

Enjoy the day, fellas.  Wabash Always Fights! 

Just up -- http://www.depauw.edu/news-media/latest-news/details/29174/

Have a great day, all!

Christmas morning is here, you guys.

November 10th

1917 - http://youtu.be/zD7gBhKZoWs

1973 - http://youtu.be/4zINtD2H4RI

1979 - http://youtu.be/Y1g67_xEnHE

1984 - http://youtu.be/wxX_Zfq8mFk

2007 - http://youtu.be/7TOfe4vi7VY

Game day reminder --

Both teams have tickets remaining for the 119th battle for the Bell. We've decided to open ticket booths on both sides of the field Saturday morning.

Ticket booths will open at 11 a.m. on both sides of the field. A limited number of tickets will be available at $15. When they're gone, they're gone. If tickets still remain, the boo
ths will close when the game kicks off, which is set for 1:07.

Please, tell your friends... bring some people who need to see what a great rivalry this is... the forecast looks terrific and we all know that lots of things -- in fact, anything -- can happen at a Monon Bell game.

Go Wabash!  Beat DePauw!

Here's to a great game by both teams in one of the best rivalries in all of college football.

It's time...

And that's a wrap. Your score after 12 quarters of play, 115-7.

Just posted this.. aired Friday night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc6xqKW4PIY

Back at work after a fun weekend seeing friends and family in Greencastle and Crawfordsville. Was fortunate enough to meet the Bear, Danny Boy, and DPUIrish before the game. Thanks for your hospitality, hope to make it an annual trip behind enemy lines...

The Game was kind of anticlimatic. Sure the score was close until the later stages of the game, but it never REALLY felt close. DePauw's offense is abysmal, and they couldn't get much of anything going. Not many DePauw fans in attendance--Wabash could have saved $6,000 by not putting up extra bleachers on the Tiger sideline, the crowd would have easily fit inside the regular visitor's stands.

So, all in all, we are left knowing things that we already knew. Wabash still has the upper-hand, but maybe not by as much. I have to say, any recruit that was in attendance on Saturday, and solely makes their choice based on the game, would have to choose Wabash.

DePauw HAS to make major facility improvements, they HAVE to be competitive with financial aid, they HAVE to hire a young coach who is willing to build a program from the bottom-up. I think President Casey really wants DePauw football to improve, will he be able to get the rest of the University on board? Time will tell. Until then, lets enjoy having The Bell another 363 days, and keep it high atop the entry way of the Allen Center.

Until next summer, it's BASKETBALL SEASON!

Another new post -- TV coverage of the game itself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCljTZ9ksH4

finally back to work myself.

a tip of the cap to Saturday -- minus the 3 hours from 1-4, enjoyed every second, as we usually do.  Couldn't beat the weather.

Great to meet a few of you here from the boards...thanks for making the trek over to do so.  Next year, we'll do it again. 

I feel like I got a good pulse of where the search is headed and how the facilities plan is going after Saturday.  Let's just say if all come to fruition, we should ALL get what we want.  A competitive game, the old, intense rivalry and playoff berths on the line for both schools come November in the coming years.

until then, I look forward to 362 days

And finally, the 2012 Monon Memory -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atXCfx4GHBw

Some quick (and belated) thoughts from the 119th edition...

- 27 accepted penalties, 18 on Wabash.  The game had almost zero flow and was very difficult to get into for any extended stretch.  Certainly not the most exciting installment in our series.  For every 2007 or 2001, you're going to wind up with a 2012 or 2004.  Nature of the beast. 

- DePauw is obviously way, way down.  The roster needs upgrading in a pretty big way.  Wabash has a good defense.  This we knew beforehand.  But DePauw took four snaps beyond midfield...rush for no gain, incomplete pass, incomplete pass, punt.  This on their third possession of the game in the first quarter.  They never got any closer to the endzone.  That really says it all. 

- How glad are we that Tyler Holmes played on Saturday?  He was questionable throughout the week, but Tyler stepped up and had a great Monon Bell game.  His 1,000 yard season is even more impressive when we know that he did not play in the first two games.  Can't wait to see Tyler bruising some more LBs next year. 

- Those two punts for 70 and 65 yards for Sobleski and Paul Simon (really?) were bombs.  High points of an otherwise plodding game. 

- Was nice to meet some of you guys over at the VOL for a few minutes.  We'll do it again down on your turf next year. 

I don't know where the bottom is for DePauw.  I'd like to think that 2-8 is probably about it.  We'll obviously all be keeping a keen eye on your coaching search. 

Congratulations to the Wabash seniors on a perfect record against DePauw.  I don't think it was the end that anybody anticipated for this senior class, but if it had to end, ending with a shutout of DePauw was the way to do it. 

See you all again next year for the 120th!

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The NCAA has posted a really neat article and video feature on the 119th Monon Bell Classic:

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/champion+features/a+tone+of+tradition#sthash.snjflNcU.ySlnJTq7.dpbs (http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/champion+features/a+tone+of+tradition#sthash.snjflNcU.ySlnJTq7.dpbs)
I especially like the quote from Pete Metzelaars, comparing the Bell game to the Super Bowl (did he play in four of each of them?).

Good luck to Witt this weekend.  Represent!

Thanks to Schwami for posting this on the NCAC board.

Times are a changing

http://www.depauw.edu/athletics/mens/football/news/details/29298/