I guess I should have started this as a new post instead of posting it under 2011 regionals. Does anyone know or has anyone heard any information about possible 2012 regional sites? I would assume the notifications would be made soon.
Well after last year's selection for the South Regional it will be very interesting. Hope it s a little closer to home so maybe if lucky can see some games. ;D
Recently heard from some in the ODAC that RMC and CNU had both bid for the south regional. Has anyone got any further info? Also I don't believe either field has lights. Will that matter?
RMC? Hear their new field is nice but can the surrounding area support 8+ teams at one time? I do not remember the town being that big and having that many hotels etc. I think that if it comes down to a field with lights and a field without lights that lights win as it gives the NCAA more options and flexibility. Just my opinion.
Quote from: rolln2 on January 05, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Recently heard from some in the ODAC that RMC and CNU had both bid for the south regional. Has anyone got any further info? Also I don't believe either field has lights. Will that matter?
I would think lights are a must for an 8-team regional ... but a 6-team regional might be able to get it done w/o lights???
I've heard CNU was considering a bid. They do not have lights but are talking about installing them. Doubt they can get that done by May though (the field is close to a residential neighborhood and the installation of lights would likely involve some considerable outreach effort). The War Memorial Stadium is right down the road (in Hampton less than 10 miles away) and is still being used by the Apprentice School and the summer leagues. War Memorial has lights and when coupled with the CNU stadium would make a great 8-team venue. As for local infrastructure, Newport News has plenty of restaurants, hotels, and every other kind of store/park/museum you can imagine. I'd like to see CNU get the regional.
http://www.ballparkreviews.com/hampton/hampton.htm#
http://www.cnusports.com/sports/2010/2/18/BB_0218103833.aspx?
Quote from: D-BAT on January 05, 2012, 06:49:02 PM
Quote from: rolln2 on January 05, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Recently heard from some in the ODAC that RMC and CNU had both bid for the south regional. Has anyone got any further info? Also I don't believe either field has lights. Will that matter?
I would think lights are a must for an 8-team regional ... but a 6-team regional might be able to get it done w/o lights???
Yes I agree that a six team regional would be possible. NCW hosted several in the past w/o lights. I also think that CNU would not want to go to War Memorial in Hampton eiither. I believe they would want to host on the campus which is a much nicer area as well for the fans.
More detailed pics of Hampton's War Mem'l from Digitalballparks.com ... not sure when these pics were taken, but has the facility seen any major improvements over the last 5-10yrs?
http://www.digitalballparks.com/Carolina/Hampton.html
2009 Regionals were the best I've seen in the last few years...I believe Salisbury hosted but we played all our games in the Aberdeen Ironbirds stadium. I believe it was the Single A stadium for the Orioles...what an amazing facility.
The 2009 regionals were hosted by Salisbury, but it was at the Delmarva Shorebirds stadium. They are the low-A club for the Orioles. You are right it is a very nice facility.
Another option for CNU may be the William & Mary field. It has lights and is only a 15 min drive from CNU. If the CNU organizers had access to that facility, it could make for a great regional. War Memorial is a nostalgic place, but as others have mentioned it is dated and in a part of town without much appeal. The W&M field is in Williamsburg which is a great vacation spot with lots to do. Hotels and restaurants between the two fields are superb.
http://www.tribeathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=25100&ATCLID=205060947
Alright. South regional will be played at CNU. Thats great. The USAS gets to keep it in their backyard. That should be a nice venue and host area for the fans. So I guess this also tells us that it will be a six team regional. Since CNU has no lights.
I saw that the south region 2012 preview is out. Looks like the usual teams are picked to be there in the end. Shenandoah, Salisbury, CNU, Piedmont, Methodist, Bridgewater, RMC, and newcomer to the south Birmingham Southern. Although I think Birmingham will probably go to the central region if they make the NCAA tourney. Looking at the rosters from some of these clubs. It looks like some have lost a great deal. Shenandoah, Salisbury and Birmingham lost key players on the hill and at the plate. While CNU, Piedmont, and Methodist seem to have less spots to fill.
If Birmingham makes it is as the SCAC champion, I belive they would go to the West. If they go as an at large then I am not sure where they would go. I am guessing it will depend on the rest of the brackets and how the NCAA places teams. Really not sure maybe someone else here has a better idea.
BS-C still has Bruce Maxwell, who is a force at the plate. We recruited him for our Valley League Baseball team, but with no luck as the rumor was he is being scouted pretty heavily and may sign. Jesse Meier, who did pitch for our VBL team, is an outstanding pitcher. He was 7-1 last season with a 2.70 ERA. This summer for us he pitched great, with an ERA around 3.60 I believe. BS-C should certainly be a top notch team, along with the usuals in CNU, Salisbury, Shenandoah, and RMC. I look for Walton from RMC to have an outstanding year, as he did so last year and had a wonderful summer in the VBL for the Waynesboro Generals.
Shenandoah will have to replace Brashears, Van Sickler, Neeb, DeHaven, and M. Smith at the plate. That's 724 AB's, 203 R, 30 HR's, 176 RBI's, 39 SB out of their offense.
On the mound they'll have to replace Van Sickler, Goddard, Hendrickson, M. Smith and Stefanowicz which is another 23 W, 241 Innings, and 209 K's out of their rotation.
Coach Anderson will have his hands full...replacing all that talent.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on January 25, 2012, 09:31:01 PM
If Birmingham makes it is as the SCAC champion, I belive they would go to the West. If they go as an at large then I am not sure where they would go. I am guessing it will depend on the rest of the brackets and how the NCAA places teams. Really not sure maybe someone else here has a better idea.
Birmingham is a South Region team and not West. The West has not had a team from outside its region in its Regional that I know of. NCAA can and has in the past move teams into other regionals that are not in the Region but I just never remember it happening in the West. SCAC is a Split Region conference. Some teams are in the West Region and some are in the South Region.
http://www.d3baseball.com/teams/region/west
http://www.d3baseball.com/teams/region/south
I know that last year they moved a Mid east team into the South (NCAC champion Wabash) but they were within 500 miles of the south region tourney site. I do not think they would move BSC west that would mean airfare and certainly the NCAA does not like paying airfare if they do not have to.
West Region will have 6 teams in my opinion.
Pool A West Conferences
ASC
SCIAC
NWC
SCAC
Quote from: LTHSdad on January 26, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
Shenandoah will have to replace Brashears, Van Sickler, Neeb, DeHaven, and M. Smith at the plate. That's 724 AB's, 203 R, 30 HR's, 176 RBI's, 39 SB out of their offense.
On the mound they'll have to replace Van Sickler, Goddard, Hendrickson, M. Smith and Stefanowicz which is another 23 W, 241 Innings, and 209 K's out of their rotation.
Coach Anderson will have his hands full...replacing all that talent.
A lot of opportunities for others to step-up to the plate!
Actually Coach A was interviewed on TV3 and I think they graduated 27 wins off the mound.
Quote from: D-BAT on January 27, 2012, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: LTHSdad on January 26, 2012, 12:01:04 PM
Shenandoah will have to replace Brashears, Van Sickler, Neeb, DeHaven, and M. Smith at the plate. That's 724 AB's, 203 R, 30 HR's, 176 RBI's, 39 SB out of their offense.
On the mound they'll have to replace Van Sickler, Goddard, Hendrickson, M. Smith and Stefanowicz which is another 23 W, 241 Innings, and 209 K's out of their rotation.
Coach Anderson will have his hands full...replacing all that talent.
A lot of opportunities for others to step-up to the plate!
Actually Coach A was interviewed on TV3 and I think they graduated 27 wins off the mound.
Wow that is a whole lot of contributors from the 2011 team. How do you replace those numbers in one season or will this take a year or two to get back on course?
The NCAA playoffs are about a month away. CNU so far is the only team already qualified for the south regional. The CAC, ODAC, have tourney qualifiers this week. Also others in the south like Birmingham Southern, Emory, Piedmont will be playing for entry. Does anyone wish to predict the south regional being hosted at CNU? I believe it will be a six team regional since CNU does not have lights.
Rollin here are my guesses!
CNU - Pool A
Lynchburg - Pool A
Salisbury - Pool A
Brimingham Southern - Pool A
Shenandoah - Pool C
Huntingdon/Piedmount/Emory/Bridgewater - Pool C ( do not think Huntingdon or Piedmount have a shoot at the Pool B bid)
Right now my guesses assume that all regular season champs win their tournaments.
If Salisbury or Brimingham Southern lose then the Pool C bids could get real interesting
With the NCAA reg rankings coming out Thursday or Friday (call is Thursday 4/26)
this may help to clear things up. Think that Piedmount may have a good shoot as their SoS is very strong where as some of the other Pool C SoS isn't that strong.
There you go.
Boysof summer:
I think your guesses are pretty good. The assumptions are the real issue. If Lynchburg or Salisbury do not win their tourneys it will get real interesting real fast. You'd have to put both of them into the lead for the Pool C bids and that could leave ranked teams like Peidmont and Shenandoah on the outside looking in. It is possible that it becomes a three team race with Lynchburg/Peidmont/Shenandoah for that last Pool C bid, but Lynchburg only has 8 losses versus double digits for the other 2.
Where are you finding the SoS rankings? My old link to the NCAA rankings appears not be updated.
Scratch that last question - just found the SoS on the D3.com site.
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on April 25, 2012, 11:48:24 AM
Scratch that last question - just found the SoS on the D3.com site.
Here. Under the "NEWS"tab on the front page toolbar..
http://www.d3baseball.com/seasons/2012/schedule?tmpl=sos-template
Hey Ralph maybe you can help me here,,, I have CNU as 21-6 in region but the SoS has then 21-7. Is Adrian(Mid East) considered a in region lost?
Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on April 25, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Hey Ralph maybe you can help me here,,, I have CNU as 21-6 in region but the SoS has then 21-7. Is Adrian(Mid East) considered a in region lost?
Adrian vs. CNU is in-region. They're both in Administrative Region III.
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on April 25, 2012, 11:34:03 AM
It is possible that it becomes a three team race with Lynchburg/Peidmont/Shenandoah for that last Pool C bid, but Lynchburg only has 8 losses versus double digits for the other 2.
shenandoah - 24-8 (.750) vs. #72 sos
piedmont - 23-14 (.622) vs. #69 sos
lynchburg - 26-7 (.788) vs. #202 sos
lynchburg's win% might allow them to be ranked ahead of piedmont in the regional rankings, but i don't think there is any way lc will be ranked ahead of su - the only team potentially left on lc's schedule that could help their sos is bridgewater, but if they are being considered as a pool c, that means that they likely lost to bc (and maybe another odac team), which will hurt their sos - i see the odac as pool a or nothing...
pc has a potential game(s) against huntingdon (21-11/.656/78 sos) to help their cause...as a matter of fact, i think huntingdon could work themselves in to the conversation if they win the gsac and get to play piedmont a couple of times...they might even be ranked ahead of lynchburg (and piedmont, for that matter) in the initial regional rankings
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 25, 2012, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on April 25, 2012, 02:01:16 PM
Hey Ralph maybe you can help me here,,, I have CNU as 21-6 in region but the SoS has then 21-7. Is Adrian(Mid East) considered a in region lost?
Adrian vs. CNU is in-region. They're both in Administrative Region III.
Thank you and if you keep writing "Around the Nation" I will keep reading it!
Narch,
I agree ODAC is a Pool A. Also I had Huntingdon ahead of Piedmount as they have a better conference record (9-3 vs 6-6) in region record (21-11 vs 23-14) and are 78 vs 69 in the SoS. IMO Piedmount lost it's chance at a pool c with the last lost to LaGrange. It is surprising to see the SoS numbers for the ODAC. VWC is the only one in the top 150!! the rest start at 202.. wow
Also if you really like to see how a team, conference or region rank in many hitting/pitching catagories this is a great site
http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary)
here is my best guess for regional rankings (which will give us some clues to pool b/c selections) - i think there will be 6 teams ranked:
1. CNU - 27-7 (.750), 25 sos - head to head win vs. salisbury
2. Salisbury - 25-5 (.833), 68 sos - has wesley, hopkins and montclair left...all strong regional opponents
3. Birmingham Southern - 31-7 (.816), 96 sos - lost to lynchburg, beat piedmont, split with huntingdon, lost 2x to emory - games remaining vs. udallas (23-15 overall) and emory (23-11)
4. Shenandoah - 24-8 (.750), 72 sos - split with lynchburg, 1-3 vs. cnu
5. Lynchburg - 26-7 (.788), 202 sos - split with shenandoah, beat bsc...those were really the only strong regional games they played
6. Emory - 23-11 (.676), 98 sos - 2-0 vs. bsc, 2-2 vs. piedmont, 2-1 vs. huntingdon
Others to consider:
Huntingdon - 21-11 (.656), 78 sos - 2-2 vs. bsc, 2-1 vs. piedmont
Piedmont - 23-14 (.622), 69 sos - 1-2 vs. marietta, 1-2 vs. huntingdon, 2-2 vs. emory, 0-1 vs. bsc
i think spots 5, 6, 7, 8 are all interchangeable, and i wouldn't be surprised to see rankings that included any combination of those 4 teams in the last two slots - i think the committee will be impressed with lynchburg's record, but when they examine the schedule closer, that might get discounted - if these were MY rankings (rather than my guess), i would have lynchburg 7th or 8th among these teams
Well the regional rankings are out. Looks like CNU, Birm. Southern, Salisbury, Shenandoah, Lynchburg, and Huntington made the top six in the south. Any comments, agreements or disagreements.
regional rankings are out http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/04/regional-rankings-1
not sure how bsc is ahead of salisbury...lower win% and lower sos
huntingdon gets in at 6, which is not surprising...i originally had them there, but switched emory in based on head to head
Has anyone seen the year Bruce Maxwell is putting up for B-SC? If you haven't, I'll post his numbers below. I would say at this point he is probably favorite for National Player of the Year. We tried to get him on our Valley League team, but had to move on to other options as he was not ready to make a decision. I'm not saying this is worth of the #2 slot in the South, just wanted to share:
.504 (61/121)
48 Runs Scored
23 Doubles
13 HR
39 RBI
51 BB's
.651 On Base %
Three tickets now punched to Newport News w/ CNU, Salisbury, and Lynchburg all winnng their pool A bids.
Quote from: rolln2 on April 29, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
Three tickets now punched to Newport News w/ CNU, Salisbury, and Lynchburg all winnng their pool A bids.
Birmingham Southern also punches a pool A bid from the south. Question now is do they go to Newport News or to the Central regional in Memphis which may be closer for them.
Quote from: rolln2 on April 29, 2012, 05:32:14 PM
Quote from: rolln2 on April 29, 2012, 03:09:50 PM
Three tickets now punched to Newport News w/ CNU, Salisbury, and Lynchburg all winnng their pool A bids.
Birmingham Southern also punches a pool A bid from the south. Question now is do they go to Newport News or to the Central regional in Memphis which may be closer for them.
Pencil BSC in the Memphis bracket. Besides, Memphis will harder to fill without a plane flight.
Birmingham to Memphis -- ~231 miles
Birmingham to Newport News -- ~771 miles
I may be headed the wrong way but does anyone think teams like Bridgewater (30-14), Wesley (29-14), Millsaps (28-16) or Rhodes (27-15) have a chance to get in?
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Shenandoah, Emory, and Huntingdon are all ranked above those teams in the latest Regional rankings.
Even if Huntingdon is selected as a Pool B team (which I don't think will happen), the odds of a 4th South
Region team getting in are slim and none. Shenandoah is likely in....Emory and Huntingdon will need lots
of Conference favorites from around the country to win their respective Conference Tournaments to have the
best chance to get an at-large bid. And even then its not a sure thing.
I've got to think there won't be more than one pool C bid in the South Regional. The givens are:
1) CNU
2) Salisburty
3) Shenandoah (pool C)
4) Lynchburg
The remaining 2 bids are likely to be Pool A's from conferences nearby. My guesses would be:
Haverford (who just knocked off Johns Hopkins - Hopkins would have been a lock for this regional if they had won)
Misericordia (should they beat DeSales)
I think it is more likely that the NCAA will send a couple Mid-Atlantic Pool A's to Newport News than make Birmingham Southern travel almost 800 miles. The other bubble teams in the South seem unlikely to be ranked high enough or have a SoS high enough to get them in.
Just my thinking - anxious to hear what others think.
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on May 06, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
I've got to think there won't be more than one pool C bid in the South Regional. The givens are:
1) CNU
2) Salisburty
3) Shenandoah (pool C)
4) Lynchburg
The remaining 2 bids are likely to be Pool A's from conferences nearby. My guesses would be:
Haverford (who just knocked off Johns Hopkins - Hopkins would have been a lock for this regional if they had won)
Misericordia (should they beat DeSales)
I think it is more likely that the NCAA will send a couple Mid-Atlantic Pool A's to Newport News than make Birmingham Southern travel almost 800 miles. The other bubble teams in the South seem unlikely to be ranked high enough or have a SoS high enough to get them in.
Just my thinking - anxious to hear what others think.
BSC is very close (~250 miles) to Memphis. They are a natural for that regional.
I agree that 2 Mid-Atlantic teams move to this regional.
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on May 06, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
I've got to think there won't be more than one pool C bid in the South Regional. The givens are:
1) CNU
2) Salisburty
3) Shenandoah (pool C)
4) Lynchburg
The remaining 2 bids are likely to be Pool A's from conferences nearby. My guesses would be:
Haverford (who just knocked off Johns Hopkins - Hopkins would have been a lock for this regional if they had won)
Misericordia (should they beat DeSales)
I think it is more likely that the NCAA will send a couple Mid-Atlantic Pool A's to Newport News than make Birmingham Southern travel almost 800 miles. The other bubble teams in the South seem unlikely to be ranked high enough or have a SoS high enough to get them in.
Just my thinking - anxious to hear what others think.
Wow Nova so the south regional is sitting with 4 top 25 teams in it (and if Brimingham was there it would be 5 and gee lets throw Huntingdon in there and all 6 are receiving votes "NOW THATS A REGIONAL!") think they may split this up as they are going to need someone to travel no matter what?
Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on May 07, 2012, 10:24:30 PM
Quote from: NoVa Baseball on May 06, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
I've got to think there won't be more than one pool C bid in the South Regional. The givens are:
1) CNU
2) Salisburty
3) Shenandoah (pool C)
4) Lynchburg
The remaining 2 bids are likely to be Pool A's from conferences nearby. My guesses would be:
Haverford (who just knocked off Johns Hopkins - Hopkins would have been a lock for this regional if they had won)
Misericordia (should they beat DeSales)
I think it is more likely that the NCAA will send a couple Mid-Atlantic Pool A's to Newport News than make Birmingham Southern travel almost 800 miles. The other bubble teams in the South seem unlikely to be ranked high enough or have a SoS high enough to get them in.
Just my thinking - anxious to hear what others think.
Wow Nova so the south regional is sitting with 4 top 25 teams in it (and if Brimingham was there it would be 5 and gee lets throw Huntingdon in there and all 6 are receiving votes "NOW THATS A REGIONAL!") think they may split this up as they are going to need someone to travel no matter what?
I agree w/ NOVA. I believe the south region will have two out of region teams come down to make up the six team field. Could be Haverford, Drew or maybe Messiah. Maybe even an NJAC conference team if they have several qualify.
I think it will be;
1. CNU
2. Salisbury
3. Shenandoah
4. Haverford
5. Lynchburg
6. John Hopkins
Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on May 11, 2012, 09:52:27 AM
I think it will be;
1. CNU
2. Salisbury
3. Shenandoah
4. Haverford
5. Lynchburg
6. John Hopkins
Don't see Haverford and Hopkins coming south. They are both from same conference and Haverford won tourney so I think Hopkins is out.
Final Reg'l Rankings:
(1) 35-07, 35-07 Birmingham-Southern
(2) 21-07, 30-07 Christopher Newport
(3) 27-06, 31-07 Salisbury
(4) 26-09, 29-11 Shenandoah
(5) 26-11, 26-11 Emory
(6) 24-12, 30-12 Huntingdon
It's official!
Hosted by Christopher Newport, Newport News, Va.
1 Christopher Newport (30-7)
2 Salisbury (31-7)
3 Shenandoah (29-11)
4 Rowan (30-13)
5 Lynchburg (34-8)
6 Messiah (19-23)
First-round matchups for the championship site will be as follows:
• Rhodes regional winner vs. Eastern Connecticut State regional winner
• Farmingdale State regional winner vs. Kean regional winner
• Wisconsin-Whitewater regional winner vs. Christopher Newport regional winner
• Marietta regional winner vs. Linfield regional winner
Looks like I was right about two Mid-Atlantic teams coming to the South Regional, but wrong about which two. Messiah and Rowan are good adds to this group and will make for a really competitive tournament. Messiah doesn't have an impressive won-loss record, but a close look at their schedule shows a win against Salisbury (6-3) and an extra-inning loss to Shenandoah (8-9). Sounds like a team that can hang with the others in this Regional.
Let's hope for great weather at beautiful Captains Park on Wednesday.
Go Captains!
good luck to both usasac teams!
I agree; very competitive regional bracket. Should be a lot of fun. Good luck to ALL the teams, but especially to Lynchburg... :P
Boy I will agree on this being a good regional. This regional being only a six team tourney still has the most top 25 ranked teams. The south currently has five top 25 teams in CNU,Salisbury,Shenandoah,Lynchburg and Rowan. That is two more than any other regional in the tournament. It is funny how one of the smaller regionals got stuck w/ the most ranked teams per tourney site. Should be fun to watch.
Quote from: rolln2 on May 14, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
Boy I will agree on this being a good regional. This regional being only a six team tourney still has the most top 25 ranked teams. The south currently has five top 25 teams in CNU,Salisbury,Shenandoah,Lynchburg and Rowan. That is two more than any other regional in the tournament. It is funny how one of the smaller regionals got stuck w/ the most ranked teams per tourney site. Should be fun to watch.
Because many fans complain about the weaker conferences in other parts of the country that do not have a team "worthy" of getting a tourney bid, sometimes to their perceived detriment of letting their favorite team get a "do-over" Pool C bid.
There are no such conferences in this part of the country.
Here is the last team in each Regional that was a Pool C bid. The number of teams in each bracket is given.
Central/6 IWU #6 (These are about the only 6 teams that could be bussed to Memphis.)
Mid-Atlantic/8 Neumann #5
Mideast/8 St John Fisher #4
Midwest/8 Concordia-Chicago #5
New England/8 Bowdoin #7
New York/6
Misericordia #4 None
South/6 Rowan #4
West/6 Trinity TX #2
All of the remaining seeds in each bracket is Pool A (Automatic Qualifier) except Pool B WashU and Ithaca.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: rolln2 on May 14, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
Boy I will agree on this being a good regional. This regional being only a six team tourney still has the most top 25 ranked teams. The south currently has five top 25 teams in CNU,Salisbury,Shenandoah,Lynchburg and Rowan. That is two more than any other regional in the tournament. It is funny how one of the smaller regionals got stuck w/ the most ranked teams per tourney site. Should be fun to watch.
Because many fans complain about the weaker conferences in other parts of the country that do not have a team "worthy" of getting a tourney bid, sometimes to their perceived detriment of letting their favorite team get a "do-over" Pool C bid.
There are no such conferences in this part of the country.
Here is the last team in each Regional that was a Pool C bid. The number of teams in each bracket is given.
Central/6 IWU #6 (These are about the only 6 teams that could be bussed to Memphis.)
Mid-Atlantic/8 Neumann #5
Mideast/8 St John Fisher #4
Midwest/8 Concordia-Chicago #5
New England/8 Bowdoin #7
New York/6 Misericordia #4
South/6 Rowan #4
West/6 Trinity TX #2
Alll of the remaining seeds in each bracket is Pool A (Automatic Qualifier).
. I believe Misericordia was an automatic bid not a pool c - no?
Quote from: lordcharles on May 14, 2012, 10:35:45 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: rolln2 on May 14, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
Boy I will agree on this being a good regional. This regional being only a six team tourney still has the most top 25 ranked teams. The south currently has five top 25 teams in CNU,Salisbury,Shenandoah,Lynchburg and Rowan. That is two more than any other regional in the tournament. It is funny how one of the smaller regionals got stuck w/ the most ranked teams per tourney site. Should be fun to watch.
Because many fans complain about the weaker conferences in other parts of the country that do not have a team "worthy" of getting a tourney bid, sometimes to their perceived detriment of letting their favorite team get a "do-over" Pool C bid.
There are no such conferences in this part of the country.
Here is the last team in each Regional that was a Pool C bid. The number of teams in each bracket is given.
Central/6 IWU #6 (These are about the only 6 teams that could be bussed to Memphis.)
Mid-Atlantic/8 Neumann #5
Mideast/8 St John Fisher #4
Midwest/8 Concordia-Chicago #5
New England/8 Bowdoin #7
New York/6 Misericordia #4 None!
South/6 Rowan #4
West/6 Trinity TX #2
Alll of the remaining seeds in each bracket is Pool A (Automatic Qualifier).
. I believe Misericordia was an automatic bid not a pool c - no?
My bad! +1!
There are no Pool C bids in the New York Regional.
Looks like one of ole' SU's cupcakes got CNU today ... how 'bout that!
QuoteWILLIAMSBURG, Va. - No. 19/21 Shenandoah University opened up its 2012 NCAA Newport News Baseball Regional Wednesday evening with a 5-4 victory over No. 18/24 Rowan (N.J.).
The Hornets (30-13) rallied from 2-0 and 3-1 deficits to take out the Profs (30-14).
Shenandoah, the third-seed in the six-team regional, advances to take on second-seeded Salisbury on Thursday at 4:30.
Wednesday's contest was originally scheduled for a 4:30 start at Captains Park on the campus of Christopher Newport University, but was moved to Plumeri Park at the College of William & Mary after thunderstorms were forcast for the Newport News area.
SU struggled a bit with the delay, as RU jumped on Hornets starter Vince Claudio (7-1) for two runs on four hits and one walk in the first.
Claudio helped himself out by picking off a runner and then got a 6-4-3 double play to end the threat.
The twin killing was one of three that Shenandoah had on the day - reliever Kyle Scallion closed the book on the game by getting designated hitter Kevin McMenamin to ground into a bases loaded 6-3 DP.
Scallion posted his fifth save of the spring by recording the final five outs of the contest - coming on with runners on second and third in the eighth, he induced a lineout and groundout to first to put SU three outs from victory.
In the ninth, he recorded an inning-opening strikeout, but then saw the Profs get two singles before intentionally walking four-hole hitter Nick Turano to load the bases.
McMenamin then ground the ball three steps to the left of second base, where Kurt Krout scooped it up and relayed to Cory Nelson at first for the final two outs of the game.
Trailing 3-1 after RU scored two runs in the first and one in the second, Shenandoah tied the game with a two-run third.
Nelson had the first RBI, on a single to left before Nick Beall evened matters with a single to right.
Beall, who was one of four SU players with two hits, gave the Hornets the lead in the fifth with a single to right center. His single plated Nelson from second, who had reached on a two-base throwing error by Rowan third baseman Mark Benak.
Freshman Michael Paul had the eventual game-winning RBI with a double to right center to score Tucker Brown. Brown reached on a single to left.
Claudio allowed four runs (three earned) on 11 hits and two walks while striking out one.
Steven Melchiorre (5-2) took the loss for Rowan. He gave up the five runs (four earned) on 11 hits and one walk.
Melchiorre struck out five.
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I don't think anyone ever called Messiah a cupcake team. Perennial champs in every sport... D3 monster.
Disappointing loss for CNU though. Very glad they came through today.
Must have been nice for Shenandoah to play at Plumeri Park. What a great spot!
Keep it going Shenandoah!
QuoteNEWPORT NEWS, Va. - The No. 19/20 Shenandoah University baseball team posted its second straight victory of the Newport News Regional with a 6-1 win over No. 4/6 Salisbury University Thursday afternoon.
Senior Cory Nelson (6-4) threw 8 2/3 innings of seven-hit ball to propel the Hornets (31-11) past Salisbury (32-8).
With the bases loaded and two outs in the ninth, SU skipper Kevin Anderson turned to closer Kyle Scallion, who induced a lazy fly ball to right for the final out of the contest.
The save, Scallion's sixth of the season, was his second in less than 24 hours.
The win makes Shenandoah the lone remaining undefeated team in the regional. The Hornets will now await the winner of the Messiah/Salisbury game tomorrow; those two teams play at 9:30 a.m. with the winner facing the Hornets at 4:30.
A Shenandoah win tomorrow gives the Hornets two chances to win the South Region title and make their third trip to Appleton in the past four years.
After the two teams each scored one run in the fourth, SU scored one run in the sixth before breaking things open with a four-run seventh.
Senior Jake Pendergraft, who led the 11-hit attack with a 4 for 5 afternoon, had the big blow in the seventh with a two-run single up the middle.
Pendergraft's hit drove in the final two runs of the game.
In the sixth, the Hornets had taken the lead for good on a Nick Beall RBI single to left. The RBI was the second of the game for Beall, who had plated the victors first run with a fourth inning groundout.
Beall now has four RBI in the regional.
The four-run seventh gave Nelson all of the cushion he needed - he retired the Gulls in order in the first, second (with the help of a double play) and seventh while throwing just 110 pitches in earning his sixth victory of the year.
Beall and Joey Donofrio both had two hits to back up Pendergraft.
View video of Pendergraft's two-run single.
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Quote from: vabaseball on May 17, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
I don't think anyone ever called Messiah a cupcake team. Perennial champs in every sport... D3 monster.
Disappointing loss for CNU though. Very glad they came through today.
Must have been nice for Shenandoah to play at Plumeri Park. What a great spot!
Yes they did, just a couple-few years ago they did and many times as it was all over this board as the cup-cakes on SU's schedule was a hot topic for some.
I'll be the first one to admit to calling Messiah a cupcake a few years back, as they have perennially been a .500/sub .500 team in a weak conference. SU having a cupcake schedule was not mentioned this year, as this is the first year in recent memory where they scheduled some tough out of conference games. It would be nice to see a CNU v. SU Regional Championship game, as that would represent the USAS very well.
Quote from: D-BAT on May 16, 2012, 11:21:36 PM
QuoteWILLIAMSBURG, Va. - No. 19/21 Shenandoah University opened up its 2012 NCAA Newport News Baseball Regional Wednesday evening with a 5-4 victory over No. 18/24 Rowan (N.J.).
The Hornets (30-13) rallied from 2-0 and 3-1 deficits to take out the Profs (30-14).
Shenandoah, the third-seed in the six-team regional, advances to take on second-seeded Salisbury on Thursday at 4:30.
Wednesday's contest was originally scheduled for a 4:30 start at Captains Park on the campus of Christopher Newport University, but was moved to Plumeri Park at the College of William & Mary after thunderstorms were forcast for the Newport News area.
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So tough loss for Shenandoah in 14 innings. I sure would like to know how many pitches the Salisbury starter threw in 12.1 innings. Geez.... 12 hits, a couple walks and a hit batter too, so its not like it was a perfect game.
Quote from: D-BAT on May 18, 2012, 05:37:17 AM
Quote from: vabaseball on May 17, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
I don't think anyone ever called Messiah a cupcake team. Perennial champs in every sport... D3 monster.
Disappointing loss for CNU though. Very glad they came through today.
Must have been nice for Shenandoah to play at Plumeri Park. What a great spot!
Yes they did, just a couple-few years ago they did and many times as it was all over this board as the cup-cakes on SU's schedule was a hot topic for some.
well...despite a strong showing in their conference tourney and a first-round upset of cnu, messiah was a sub-.500 team this year, not exactly a juggernaut
i'm disappointed to see su/cnu in an elimination game...i was hoping that would be the regional championship, but both have played a really good tournament to this point...that salisbury/su game must have been a great game to watch - with 23 hits and 9 walks, it had to seem like the game was on the brink of being over almost every inning
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2012, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: D-BAT on May 16, 2012, 11:21:36 PM
QuoteWILLIAMSBURG, Va. - No. 19/21 Shenandoah University opened up its 2012 NCAA Newport News Baseball Regional Wednesday evening with a 5-4 victory over No. 18/24 Rowan (N.J.).
The Hornets (30-13) rallied from 2-0 and 3-1 deficits to take out the Profs (30-14).
Shenandoah, the third-seed in the six-team regional, advances to take on second-seeded Salisbury on Thursday at 4:30.
Wednesday's contest was originally scheduled for a 4:30 start at Captains Park on the campus of Christopher Newport University, but was moved to Plumeri Park at the College of William & Mary after thunderstorms were forcast for the Newport News area.
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It's sent to me via e-mail, that is why I quoted it. I been over this previously.
Seems like CNU and SU are fated to play at the end of every season. Fun game to watch last night (SU/Sal). Gutsy showing by the Sal starter. SU's closer went 6-7 innings. All the games at this regional have been affected by gale force winds blowing in from CF. Hope the Captains bats continue to heat up after the long layoff. They have been getting stronger each game.
Go Captains!
Killing us not to be there, but Go Captains Go!!! Don't even let SU leave the USAS winning a regional title on your field...but what a great and fun rivalry! I hope these two keep scheduling each other, but the future USAS has lost a wonderful annual competition. Kudos to both programs for getting and staying at a national level...but come on Captains, beat 'em!
SO in looking over the D3Baseball all-region team had a question---
Quote from: Boysofsummer21 on May 18, 2012, 11:35:26 PM
First and foremost great work on this. I do not envy you for having to do this and you did a great job.
While I do not agree with all the selections I understand how diffuclt it is. Oh and I am a USA South guy so....
1 question - well really 2.
1. Fleischmann CNU - as of 5/18/12 10 saves 1.86 era and .198 b/avg and doesn't get a whiff. He has the most saves in the south region more saves than Cook and a better ERA and B/avg than Cook.
2. When I went to the NCAA stats page Cook from Piedmount does not show up at all in the save stats. I know that Piedmont and the NCAA differed on the save count as they had him at 9 and the Piedmount site has him at 10. Now none of Piedmount stats at all. Does anyone know why that is? http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary (http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/ranksummary)
The answer--
Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 19, 2012, 12:22:27 AM
Without speaking to this specific situation, let me first point out that in some cases, some of the answers to such questions are going to be "he wasn't nominated."
As for Piedmont, perhaps the team or conference didn't file its stat report on time for baseball.
Hard to beleive that CNU didn't nominate their whole pitching staff!!!!! If true that is a WOW!
Congrats to the Captains and Head Coach John Harvell! Way to come back after dropping their first game and fighting thru the losers bracket to earn a trip to Appleton! Represent the USA South proud boys!
Wow! Beating Shenandoah is tough enough. But then to have to play a second game against another opponent in Salisbury and win that one 12-3. Wow! On to Wisconsin!! A funny note- I was at messiah game when it started. CNU lost. The next game I was late. Showed up in bottom of first. CNU wins. So, I show up yesterday in bottom of first. CNU won. So this morning I show up in bottom of first. CNU wins again. So going into final game, I left in between games. I went home and came back in bottom of first! CNU wins! Maybe I should go to Appleton and show up in bottom of first! ;D
This must have been the Super Regional. 6 teams and 5 are ranked!! I just looked at top 25. Thursday CNU beats #19 Lynchburg to stay alive. Friday they beat #18 Rowan and then today CNU beats two ranked teams in the same day - #20 Shenandoah and #5 Salisbury. Like I said in a previous post - wow!
Congrats to Coach Harvell and the Captains. This year's senior class has collectively been one of the most productive CNU has ever had. Connor Madden will finish up as one of the top hitters in Captains history, with Saunders, Mark, Lindenmuth, Keener, Lenda, and Shoemaker all having very solid careers at CNU. Between Madden, Saunders, Mark, Lindenmuth, and Lenda, there are almost 700 career collegiate starts, with all 5 of them starting full-time at least 3 seasons.
Quote from: CNU85 on May 19, 2012, 06:06:10 PM
Wow! Beating Shenandoah is tough enough. But then to have to play a second game against another opponent in Salisbury and win that one 12-3. Wow! On to Wisconsin!! A funny note- I was at messiah game when it started. CNU lost. The next game I was late. Showed up in bottom of first. CNU wins. So, I show up yesterday in bottom of first. CNU won. So this morning I show up in bottom of first. CNU wins again. So going into final game, I left in between games. I went home and came back in bottom of first! CNU wins! Maybe I should go to Appleton and show up in bottom of first! ;D
it's all because of you, 85 :)
congrats to the captains...that's a tough road to go, losing the first game and winning the regional...every game is an elimination game...
First of congrats to CNU! It was a weekend that feature many really good games and even with the 30 MPH winds the weather was nice. I do find this a bit bittersweet as it was the last game for Shenandoah as a member of the USA South and the CNU Shenandoah rivalry had turn into one of the best. I can only hope that it continues in Regionals! So good luck Captains make us proud and good luck Shenandoah on the ODAC!
Question becomes, will Coach Harvell and Coach Anderson continue the series. I sure hope they do. It would definitely make for some great regional action.
Quote from: Goose_13 on May 21, 2012, 08:38:31 PM
Question becomes, will Coach Harvell and Coach Anderson continue the series. I sure hope they do. It would definitely make for some great regional action.
Yes, because they both need games against regionally ranked opponents.
I am expecting Shenandoah to be at the top of the ODAC in baseball.
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I think you hit the nail on the head Mr. Turner. I don't see Shenandoah having too many concerns in that ODAC. They will definitely be up there with Lynchburg and Bridgewater and even Randolph-Macon. Lynchburg's pitching coach played for me for a couple years in legion ball and had a great career at Division I Marist. So I have a slight allegiance to the "other" Hornets.
Quote from: Goose_13 on May 22, 2012, 05:52:04 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head Mr. Turner. I don't see Shenandoah having too many concerns in that ODAC. They will definitely be up there with Lynchburg and Bridgewater and even Randolph-Macon. Lynchburg's pitching coach played for me for a couple years in legion ball and had a great career at Division I Marist. So I have a slight allegiance to the "other" Hornets.
I see Shenandoah raising the bar in the ODAC.
As far as I can see with the shuffling in the South Region, I think that the Capital gets even stronger with CNU moving to the CAC.
The USA South stays strong because losing CNU and Shenandoah makes room for Piedmont, La Grange and Huntingdon to come on board. Those are strong baseball programs. (This geographical shift was almost inevitable when Chowan left nearly a decade. When the GSAC-Men could not move to full AQ status, the merger was the next solution.)
The Southern Athletic Association gets to establish its own identity. BSC has made an impact in its first season. Millsaps and Hendrix have been strong programs.
I will want to see team by team which conference is stronger, the SAA or the ODAC.