Where will 2012 be? When this be announced?
Past Regional Sites
2011 Abilene, TX (McMurry)
2010 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2009 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2008 Abilene, TX(McMurry)
2007 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2006 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2005 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2004 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2003 Orange, CA(Chapman)
I am new to D3 baseball and thought it was awarded based on performance. I went back and looked at McMurray's record and based on last years record, this could not have been the case. I do know you have to have the facilities to support a regional. I am hoping (maybe foolishly) that Trinity (Tx) actually does their field improvements so they can host one in a couple of years.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on December 16, 2011, 11:15:28 AM
I am new to D3 baseball and thought it was awarded based on performance. I went back and looked at McMurray's record and based on last years record, this could not have been the case. I do know you have to have the facilities to support a regional. I am hoping (maybe foolishly) that Trinity (Tx) actually does their field improvements so they can host one in a couple of years.
In recent years performance/record were not part of the criteria. In recent years it is rewarded to team/location based upon some of the following criteria.
1) Facilties - Must have lights and enclosed press box
2) School/Team must bid on it with the NCAA. It takes time/money/people to host a Regional.
With these criteria above only a few programs can host a regional in the West.
I am aware of the facility requirements, I also think there is some minimum seating in addition to lights and pressbox. Given two bids however I would imagine the NCAA would give preference to the higher seeded team. I would assume that these sites would not be picked until the end of the season, just like it is in D1 ball.
Since 2007 in D3 Baseball all sites are determined before the season starts based upon the teams that put bids and the sites meet NCAA requirements. As you will find D1 and D3 are not the same come playoff time. A team could get a site and not even make the West Regional like McMurry in 2011.
There is a very limited number of sites in the West that can host regionals based upon the NCAA requirements and the school must submit a bid to host also.
CTX in Austin has a nice site that could host with a new field, lights, enclosed press box, covered seating and team made the regionals in 2011 also.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on December 16, 2011, 03:51:38 PM
I am aware of the facility requirements, I also think there is some minimum seating in addition to lights and pressbox. Given two bids however I would imagine the NCAA would give preference to the higher seeded team. I would assume that these sites would not be picked until the end of the season, just like it is in D1 ball.
108 Stitches -
As an FYI, the site for the NCAA West Regional has been announced in January for the last two seasons. Therefore, I would anticipate the same for 2012.
Some other thoughts . . .
Having attended the West Regional the last two seasons, I must commend Linfield and McMurry for the outstanding work they did as hosts. Great job and great facilities! However, given the wide scope the West Region covers, I believe the most practical location is Southern California.
First of all, since the NCAA is always concerned with travel costs, CA allows for easier travel for teams from as far as the Northwest or Texas and Mississippi. There are plenty of flights options given that there are 5 airports within a 50-mile radius of each other, plus plenty of hotel accommodations near every potential location. As a contrast, the challenges for Mississippi College, Texas-Tyler, and Trinity traveling to McMinnville, OR in 2010 was quite a task, with multiple airline connections, buses, etc. Plus, the hotel availability was limited, forcing teams to drive 25 - 30 miles each day from Salem.
The second considerable factor in favor of Southern CA is the weather. For those in attendance in 2010 in Oregon, the weather was horrible for playing baseball. It was very cold with constant, heavy rain. However, the NCAA rules demanded that the games be played. I do not know if there were any injuries as a result of the wet field conditions, cold weather, etc. However, that is always a concern, especially for the pitchers which can see increased innings in the post season tournaments and regional games.
I look forward to the 2012 site being announced in January, as well as buying a ticket to sunny, Southern CA!
The best D3 baseball site in SoCal is Cal Lutheran...Nice stands with overhead, Nice fencing, backstop, press booth, great field, beautiful backdrop with the hills BUT NO LIGHTS !
http://www.redsiron.com/projects.php?page=callutheranbb
Chapman plays in a city park that needs new stands, backstop, fencing and upgrade to the lights, outfield fence and scoreboard. The field is kept in great shape by hard work of many.
Thanks all for the education. If CTX in Austin puts in a bid I would imagine they would get preference, based on their new field, location etc. I agree on Cal Lu, they just need to get the lights in place. When Chapman hosted last time was it at their field? Seems like another location would get preference because of this. I will see the CTX field in Feb this year, and would love it to be in SoCal so I could just drive. Not sure if my son's team will have the horsepower to get their this year, but it would be convenient.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on December 17, 2011, 12:34:48 PM
Thanks all for the education. If CTX in Austin puts in a bid I would imagine they would get preference, based on their new field, location etc. I agree on Cal Lu, they just need to get the lights in place. When Chapman hosted last time was it at their field? Seems like another location would get preference because of this. I will see the CTX field in Feb this year, and would love it to be in SoCal so I could just drive. Not sure if my son's team will have the horsepower to get their this year, but it would be convenient.
Chapman uses its home field as the site of the tourney and the site qualifies for the sake of the NCAA.
There are Community facilities, minor league fields, etc., that have been used in the past for other regions.
McMurry was supposed to have 2007, but the forecast was for an entire week of showers that week, and it was changed to Chapman "at the last minute".
Quote from: CDD3 on December 16, 2011, 09:10:51 AM
Where will 2012 be? When this be announced?
Would McMurry get it for 3 of last 5 years?
Regional Sites
2012 Abilene, TX (McMurry) ? ? ? ? ?
2011 Abilene, TX (McMurry)
2010 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2009 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2008 Abilene, TX(McMurry)
2007 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2006 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2005 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2004 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2003 Orange, CA(Chapman)
The problem I saw with MCMurrays field was that the ground was hard as rock and the grass was very uneven. Nice facility otherwise with amazing weather. Just would like to see games determined by actual talent and not Texas league chopper hits due to field conditions
Quote from: playball on December 18, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
The problem I saw with MCMurrays field was that the ground was hard as rock and the grass was very uneven. Nice facility otherwise with amazing weather. Just would like to see games determined by actual talent and not Texas league chopper hits due to field conditions
Chapman infield is in excellent shape along with the pitching mound at Hart Park in Orange, CA due to the hard work of many(players, coaching staff).
Hart Park does need an upgrade for its stands, fences, backstop, dugouts, lights, scoreboard as compared to McMurry, Linfield, Cal Lu, and now CTX... I don't see Chapman getting a regional back before CTX...
Quote from: playball on December 18, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
The problem I saw with MCMurrays field was that the ground was hard as rock and the grass was very uneven. Nice facility otherwise with amazing weather. Just would like to see games determined by actual talent and not Texas league chopper hits due to field conditions
Was that in 2011? The drought really played havoc with the infield last year. McMurry pours the water to that thing and the field was designed by Jim Anglea (who was the field superintendent for the Texas Rangers about a decade ago) to handle west Texas summers and annual ranfalls of 24 inches.
Of course, AstroTurf/FieldTurf would be brutal in Abilene TX!
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 19, 2011, 06:44:23 PM
Quote from: playball on December 18, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
The problem I saw with MCMurrays field was that the ground was hard as rock and the grass was very uneven. Nice facility otherwise with amazing weather. Just would like to see games determined by actual talent and not Texas league chopper hits due to field conditions
Was that in 2011? The drought really played havoc with the infield last year. McMurry pours the water to that thing and the field was designed by Jim Anglea (who was the field superintendent for the Texas Rangers about a decade ago) to handle west Texas summers and annual ranfalls of 24 inches.
Of course, AstroTurf/FieldTurf would be brutal in Abilene TX!
Turf would be 120+ degrees during the hot days...
CTX has turf in Austin...
Based upon preseason polls here is what the West looks like before the 2012 has begun:
West Region Preseason Rankings
Chapman, CA (37-13)
Linfield, OR (33-11)
Redlands, CA (30-13)
Texas-Tyler 33-8
Trinity, TX (34-13),
California Lutheran (25-15)
George Fox, OR (23-13),
Pomona-Pitzer, CA (27-12)
La Verne, CA (25-14)
Chapman will plays Linfield, Redlands, Trinity, Cal Lu, Pomona, La Verne and George Fox add in Kean from the East and Chapman plays several teams from the Preseason rankings..along with Pac Lu, Ithaca--unranked teams that have had great programs and teams in the past.Add NAIA team Pt Loma which has been to a couple of NAIA World Series.
A really tough schedule. It may be the toughest schedule they have ever played :-X :-X
Chapman will need replacements for their #2 pitcher, starting catcher and 2B....2011 Seniors in these positions were all region players..
Senior catcher Adam Kordich ABCA All-West Region second team. Kordich finished his final year leading the Panthers in home runs (6) and doubles (9) and OBP (.433). He went 53 for 175 (.303) and scored 31 runs. Defensively, he cut down 22 base runners trying to steal.
ABCA All-West Region third team players from Chapman included RHP Jordan Sigman (8-3, 3.34 ERA, 62 K, 91.2 IP) and Tyler Hadzinsky (.331 BA, 55H, 25 R, 9 2B, 30 RBIs). His BA was the best for Chapman and he had 16 stolen bases in 18 attempts
Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 17, 2011, 06:52:11 PM
I think that McMurry has the tourney again, the second year of a 2-year contract.
Ralph -
I noticed the following comment on the West Region (NWC) site regarding the site of this year's West Regional.
"Word is coming out that Linfield will once again be hosting a regional this year! Can't wait!"Do you have any insight on this?
In 2010 Linfield held the regional. Great facility, great host, beautiful country,,
Several games played in freezing cold rain with the winds blowing. Not baseball weather...
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on December 16, 2011, 09:10:51 AM
Where will 2012 be? When this be announced?
Past Regional Sites
2011 Abilene, TX (McMurry)
2010 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2009 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2008 Abilene, TX(McMurry)
2007 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2006 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2005 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2004 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2003 Orange, CA(Chapman)
Does anyone have any more insight on the site of this year's West Regional?
Per a comment from Ralph Turner:
"I think that McMurry has the tourney again, the second year of a 2-year contract".Per a comment from Wildcat11:
"Word is coming out that Linfield will once again be hosting a regional this year! Can't wait!"I understand that both locations qualify (proper facility, lights, etc.), however the decision is usually made by now. I expect an announcement will be made soon . . .
El Hombre,
That's the word I'm getting out here is that Linfield will be hosting a regional in 2012. I think my information is solid but until official word is released we'll just have to wait and see.
West Regional Sites
2012 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2011 Abilene, TX (McMurry)
2010 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2009 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2008 Abilene, TX(McMurry)
2007 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2006 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2005 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2004 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2003 Orange, CA(Chapman)
West Region Preview
http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/01/west-2012-preview (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/01/west-2012-preview)
George Fox season previews also mentions that Linfield is hosting a regional:
http://athletics.georgefox.edu/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/preview (http://athletics.georgefox.edu/sports/bsb/2011-12/releases/preview)
"The heart of the Bruins' schedule is the 24-game Northwest Conference slate that will determine the league's automatic bid to the NCAA Tournament. The Bruins have made eight post-season appearances since becoming eligible for the NCAA playoffs in 2000, winning the national championship in 2004, and would enjoy a return to the West Regionals, which will be hosted this year by Linfield College just 14 miles down the road in McMinnville, Ore."
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on January 18, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
West Regional Sites
2012 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2011 Abilene, TX (McMurry)
2010 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2009 McMinnville, OR (Linfield)
2008 Abilene, TX(McMurry)
2007 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2006 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2005 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2004 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2003 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2002 Georgetown, TX(Southwestern)
2001 Orange, CA(Chapman)
2000 Georgetown, TX(Southwestern)
My two-cents; Concordia-Texas would be terrific. Beautiful new field, AAA quality lights, Austin is a great town. Those in the know needs to give the people at Concordia a "nudge."
Quote from: ILVBB on February 20, 2012, 06:18:33 PM
My two-cents; Concordia-Texas would be terrific. Beautiful new field, AAA quality lights, Austin is a great town. Those in the know needs to give the people at Concordia a "nudge."
I agee Austin with Concordia-Texas would be a perfect choice. Great new field, great city, good weather. Also now a great baseball program with Concordia-Texas making the 2011 West Regionals.
Has CTX put in aa bid?
Quote from: historymajor on February 21, 2012, 10:01:05 PM
Has CTX put in aa bid?
Nobody ever knows who puts bids in. The only thing the general public hears is who gets the bid. I really prefer a warm weather state over the rain and cold of the Northwest....
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 21, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
I really prefer a warm weather state over the rain and cold of the Northwest....
Looking forward to watching another regional at Linfield.
Quote from: wildcat11 on February 22, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 21, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
I really prefer a warm weather state over the rain and cold of the Northwest....
Looking forward to watching another regional at Linfield.
Hope the warm weather from 2009 comes back in 2012 and not the cold, wind and rain from 2010.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 22, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on February 22, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 21, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
I really prefer a warm weather state over the rain and cold of the Northwest....
Lets hope the La Niña starts to subside by May.....
What are the U.S. impacts of La Niña?
La Niña often features drier than normal conditions in the Southwest in late summer through the subsequent winter. Drier than normal conditions also typically occur in the Central Plains in the fall and in the Southeast in the winter. In contrast, the Pacific Northwest is more likely to be wetter than normal in the late fall and early winter with the presence of a well-established La Niña. Additionally, on average La Niña winters are warmer than normal in the Southeast and colder than normal in the Northwest.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 23, 2012, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 22, 2012, 04:42:49 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on February 22, 2012, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on February 21, 2012, 10:59:47 PM
I really prefer a warm weather state over the rain and cold of the Northwest....
Lets hope the La Niña starts to subside by May.....
What are the U.S. impacts of La Niña?
La Niña often features drier than normal conditions in the Southwest in late summer through the subsequent winter. Drier than normal conditions also typically occur in the Central Plains in the fall and in the Southeast in the winter. In contrast, the Pacific Northwest is more likely to be wetter than normal in the late fall and early winter with the presence of a well-established La Niña. Additionally, on average La Niña winters are warmer than normal in the Southeast and colder than normal in the Northwest.
McMinnville Oregon Weather Forecast
Saturday H 45 L 34 Rain
Sunday H 45 L 30 Chance of Snow
It sucks that a regional would be hosted in a part of the country where weather could affect the games. Also isnt a good idea to have a regional where the city can't support all the teams. Two years ago, Trinity stayed 45 miles from the field. Maybe there are more hotels now.
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on February 24, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
It sucks that a regional would be hosted in a part of the country where weather could affect the games.
It's baseball. Weather is always a part of the game. Are you suggesting that we move all 8 regionals to the either Texas or Southern California to avoid the weather? Or play them in domes?
I believe the poster was saying that it would be better to pick a location that has a the prospect of having acceptable weather AND a city that could support the number of teams and fans coming in. I don't have any experience with the Linfield site so I can't really comment on its suitability. 45 miles from the site seems excessive to me and puts an unnecessary burden on a team.
There are plenty of places outside of Texas and Ca that have acceptable facilities and the prospect of good weather. It seems to me that the spring training facilities around the country would be perfect neutral sites, but maybe there are cost issues involved. In the end I guess someone has to apply to have one, which might also be part of the problem. Don't really know but certainly the Pacific Northwest would not seem like a place you would want to plan for one, anytime before June. June through September there is no better place in the world, but that does not fit into DIII regional timing.
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on February 24, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
It sucks that a regional would be hosted in a part of the country where weather could affect the games.
It's baseball. Weather is always a part of the game. Are you suggesting that we move all 8 regionals to the either Texas or Southern California to avoid the weather? Or play them in domes?
I am suggesting that the last 4 years 3 have been in the cold bad weather Northwest. I believe it should rotate each year in the West to Texas, CA and Northwest. If you call playing baseball in pouring rain in weather in the 30's with wind blowing so hard rain is blowing sideways and players standing in the pouring rain for 1 hour delay. This is not baseball. I suggest then we have no weather delays and play like they do in football regardless of weather
What about Phoenix? It is cheap to get in and out of, the weather would be perfect in May, hotels are plentiful and inexpensive, flying is affordable, and there are more baseball fields within a 15 mile radius than probably anywhere else in the world. I don't get it. I know the SCAC has been holding their tournament at the USA baseball facility, why not regionals at the spring training parks? Same in FL, and NC. There are plenty of places that have the infrastructure necessary to support one. It does not do justice to any all of the teams to be playing in marginal places, be it weather or infrastructure.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 24, 2012, 03:32:01 PM
What about Phoenix? It is cheap to get in and out of, the weather would be perfect in May, hotels are plentiful and inexpensive, flying is affordable, and there are more baseball fields within a 15 mile radius than probably anywhere else in the world. I don't get it. I know the SCAC has been holding their tournament at the USA baseball facility, why not regionals at the spring training parks? Same in FL, and NC. There are plenty of places that have the infrastructure necessary to support one. It does not do justice to any all of the teams to be playing in marginal places, be it weather or infrastructure.
COST..
Hotel rooms, bus rides, flights...
I agree that AZ would be a great neutral West Regional site
Great weather, great fields, great area.
but who would be the host? Host teams(schools provide alot of volunteer(FREE) support for this events. Without a host school the cost would be in line with what the NCAA is willing to pay for.
I don't know Crash, but it seems to me it could be done. Just because it has been done one-way all of the time, does not mean it needs to always be done that way. Get each team to provide a couple of volunteers each. It would not be that difficult to organize. Here's a concept, have the guys making the big $$$ at the NCAA actually do something for their pay. All of these sites have snack shacks, there are local vendors that would man them, the NCAA is organizing the brackets and game times. How many people are really needed?
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on February 24, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
It sucks that a regional would be hosted in a part of the country where weather could affect the games.
It's baseball. Weather is always a part of the game. Are you suggesting that we move all 8 regionals to the either Texas or Southern California to avoid the weather? Or play them in domes?
If weather could be avoided, don't the teams deserve it. Ca and Tx are great options. Just have it rotate.
Besides, it sucks that teams had to stay 45 miles from the field because there weren't enough accommodation in Linfield. How can you host a regional and not have enough hotels for the teams.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on February 25, 2012, 11:32:14 AM
I don't know Crash, but it seems to me it could be done. Just because it has been done one-way all of the time, does not mean it needs to always be done that way. Get each team to provide a couple of volunteers each. It would not be that difficult to organize. Here's a concept, have the guys making the big $$$ at the NCAA actually do something for their pay. All of these sites have snack shacks, there are local vendors that would man them, the NCAA is organizing the brackets and game times. How many people are really needed?
I love the idea and think it is great and could work. I just feel the NCAA wont budge it how they want to do things.
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on February 25, 2012, 11:38:19 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on February 24, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Quote from: tigerfan_2001 on February 24, 2012, 12:06:57 PM
It sucks that a regional would be hosted in a part of the country where weather could affect the games.
It's baseball. Weather is always a part of the game. Are you suggesting that we move all 8 regionals to the either Texas or Southern California to avoid the weather? Or play them in domes?
If weather could be avoided, don't the teams deserve it. Ca and Tx are great options. Just have it rotate.
Besides, it sucks that teams had to stay 45 miles from the field because there weren't enough accommodation in Linfield. How can you host a regional and not have enough hotels for the teams.
Our team stayed in Salem..over 30 miles away. That meant a 45 minutes to 90 minutes (in heavy rains) one way. Like I said if the regional was there once every 3 to 4 years maybe but 3 out of 4 years is just plane stupid. Great stadium, great host, great people, beautiful country. weather sucks and hotels are too far from venue also
2012 West Regional Teams
West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield, host)
SCIAC - La Verne Pool A
NWC - - Whitworth
SCAC -
ASC -
POOL C
POOL C
For what it is worth the Softball regionals are being held at the UTT Complex (Baseball and Softball). It is a great complex and has pleanty of hotels in the area. The weather in East Texas in May is warm high in the mid 80s and low in the upper 60s at night.
It also doesn't rain nearly as much as it does in the NW. So they could hold the regional in Texas and have in the past (McMurry).
TexasBB
Quote from: TexasBB on April 28, 2012, 10:04:31 PM
For what it is worth the Softball regionals are being held at the UTT Complex (Baseball and Softball). It is a great complex and has pleanty of hotels in the area. The weather in East Texas in May is warm high in the mid 80s and low in the upper 60s at night.
It also doesn't rain nearly as much as it does in the NW. So they could hold the regional in Texas and have in the past (McMurry and Georgetown/Southwestern).
TexasBB
I believe that an enclosed press box is one of the criteria for hosting regionals.
The facility at UTT has room for such an upgrade.
and Trinity is fundraising for an upgrade which I believe will include an enclosed press box.
Ideal hosting site could be Concordia Texas in the future. City of Austin, probably the nicest baseball field in the country, the weather is fine, and logistics shouldn't be a problem.
Whitworth just grabbed the NWC Pool A
Congratulations! You have done Trinity a favor as well.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2012, 06:15:07 PM
Congratulations! You have done Trinity a favor as well.
That is the truth. Now if Concordia can win the ASC......
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 29, 2012, 06:15:07 PM
Congratulations! You have done Trinity a favor as well.
Anything can happen but after the SCAC tourney I wonder if that would truly be a favor. Would like to see Klimesh have a chance to set the single-season TU win record, but if you can't make it to the championship round in the SCAC you're probably not going to get out of regionals.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 28, 2012, 04:32:03 PM
2012 West Regional Teams
West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield, host)
SCIAC - La Verne Pool A
NWC - - Whitworth Pool A
SCAC - Pool A
ASC - Pool A ?
POOL C ?
POOL C ?
POOL B/C ?
SCAC Trinity Pool C ?????
No SCAC from the West this year. BSC goes to the South.
Trinity's issues will not be pitching IMO. They have plenty of arms. Errors and middle of the order hitters will be the key for them.
They should get pool C bid, but nothing is certain.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on April 29, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
No SCAC from the West this year. BSC goes to the South.
Trinity's issues will not be pitching IMO. They have plenty of arms. Errors and middle of the order hitters will be the key for them.
They should get pool C bid, but nothing is certain.
If you mean to Rhodes, then I tend to agree. Rhodes is hosting the "Central" technically. Then again regional designations don't mean much.
2012 West Regional Teams
West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield, host) May 16-20
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linfield.edu%2Fsports%2Fdata_assets%2Fvenues_photos%2Fhelserfield.08.2.jpg&hash=1d57c468151be19aeadd564a03fcb34a5b63e837)
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool A ASC - CTX, or UTT, or McMurry, or Mississippi
POOL C Trinity- TX ?
POOL C CTX or UTT?
POOL C ?
If CTX wins the ASC series, I think that the drop-off to the relative strength of the next Pool C bid at the table may be too great for us to assume that we will get 2 Pool C bids from this region.
PacLu was in great shape until they blew the DH on Sunday!
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2012, 02:27:06 PM
If CTX wins the ASC series, I think that the drop-off to the relative strength of the next Pool C bid at the table may be too great for us to assume that we will get 2 Pool C bids from this region.
PacLu was in great shape until they blew the DH on Sunday!
Him looks like 3 Pool A from West Region (ASC, NWC, SCIAC). Does the West get 3 Pool C's
Trinity, ?, ?
It is sure looking like someone from another region will be playing the other West Region teams in Oregon...
Maybe St. Thomas flies in and makes 2012 a team from the West Region not making it to Appleton.
A few years back the West Region had 2 teams in Appleton for the DIII Championship round(Chapman & Linfield)
CDD3 Predictions
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A ASC - TBD :)
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool C SCAC - Trinity TX
Pool C ASC - TBD ;D
Pool C TBD - TBD(Not from West Region) ???
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on April 30, 2012, 10:56:49 AM
2012 West Regional Teams
West – Roy Helser Field in McMinnville, Ore. (Linfield, host) May 16-20
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linfield.edu%2Fsports%2Fdata_assets%2Fvenues_photos%2Fhelserfield.08.2.jpg&hash=1d57c468151be19aeadd564a03fcb34a5b63e837)
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool A ASC - CTX, or UTT, or McMurry, or Mississippi
POOL C Trinity- TX ?
POOL C CTX or UTT?
POOL C ?
Extended forecast in McMinnville is calling for high 70's and mix of sun and clouds during the 16-20th. Of course that could change but odds are good for nice weather in Mac.
Nice weather in 2009. Horrible weather in 2010. I hope nice weather in 2012
Sunday May 6th Predictions
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool A ASC - Concordia-Texas
Pool C SCAC - Trinity-Texas
Pool C ?????
Pool A, or C ????
Possible Pool C
Pomona, Pacific
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 06, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
Sunday May 6th Predictions
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool A ASC - Concordia-Texas
Pool C SCAC - Trinity-Texas
Pool C ?????
Pool A, or C ????
Possible Pool C
Pomona, Pacific
Regional Rankings from 05/03/2012
WEST
1 Trinity (Texas) 31-8 34-10 Pool C
2 Concordia (Texas) 33-9 33-9 Pool A
3 Whitworth 25-7-1 26-13-1 Pool A
4 Pacific Lutheran 22-10 24-13 NWC Pool C
5 La Verne 24-12 25-14 Pool A
6 Pomona-Pitzer 23-11 25-12-1 Pool C
PR UT-Dallas 25-13 28-15
Pacific has never been in the rankings
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 06, 2012, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 06, 2012, 04:48:50 PM
Sunday May 6th Predictions
Pool A SCIAC - La Verne
Pool A NWC - Whitworth
Pool A ASC - Concordia-Texas
Pool C SCAC - Trinity-Texas
Pool C ?????
Pool A, or C ????
Possible Pool C
Pomona, Pacific
Regional Rankings from 05/03/2012
WEST
1 Trinity (Texas) 31-8 34-10 Pool C
2 Concordia (Texas) 33-9 33-9 Pool A
3 Whitworth 25-7-1 26-13-1 Pool A
4 Pacific Lutheran 22-10 24-13 NWC Pool C
5 La Verne 24-12 25-14 Pool A
6 Pomona-Pitzer 23-11 25-12-1 Pool C
PR UT-Dallas 25-13 28-15
Pacific has never been in the rankings
Pac Lu has now lost their last 5 consecutive games. I expect them to drop out of the regional rankings.
Pacific has a better in region winning percentage than UT-Dallas and a similar SOS.
Pacific 20-6 22-15
UT-Dallas 25-13 28-15
Yes, at in-region of 22-12, Pac Lu has really hurt themselves.
Pacific may move in.
Thanks for calling my attention to Pac Lu's weekend.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 07, 2012, 12:24:55 AM
Yes, at in-region of 22-12, Pac Lu has really hurt themselves.
Pacific may move in.
Thanks for calling my attention to Pac Lu's weekend.
Ralph -
You are right regarding Pacific and Pac Lu.
Listed below are the latest RPI Ratings for the top 20 teams in the West Region . . .
RPI Ratings - West Region (5-6-12) Team Regional Win % SOS RPIConcordia (TX) 0.795 0.500 0.574
Trinity 0.795 0.496 0.571
La Verne 0.667 0.532 0.566
Whitworth 0.773 0.494 0.564
Pacific 0.769 0.494 0.563
Chapman 0.545 0.560 0.556
Pacific Lutheran 0.647 0.523 0.554
Pomona Pitzer 0.676 0.510 0.552
Texas-Tyler 0.694 0.502 0.550
George Fox 0.606 0.528 0.548
Linfield 0.636 0.507 0.539
Occidental 0.618 0.511 0.538
Texas-Dallas 0.658 0.496 0.537
Hardin-Simmons 0.545 0.531 0.535
Texas Lutheran 0.667 0.489 0.534
Cal Lutheran 0.618 0.505 0.533
McMurry 0.595 0.504 0.527
Mississippi College 0.486 0.525 0.515
Whittier 0.543 0.506 0.515
U of Dallas 0.559 0.483 0.502
For those coming out to the regional just an FYI...On the 18th and 19th McMinnville is hosting their annual UFO Festival in downtown Mac. Trade in your ball cap for a tinfoil hat and go check it out between games.
http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival (http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival)
Quote from: wildcat11 on May 09, 2012, 12:23:36 PM
For those coming out to the regional just an FYI...On the 18th and 19th McMinnville is hosting their annual UFO Festival in downtown Mac. Trade in your ball cap for a tinfoil hat and go check it out between games.
http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival (http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival)
I have been to McMinnville in the past for the West regionals and I have seen the crazy tin hat UFO parade with many others dressed up as Aliens marching through downtown.
If you get to downtown McMinnville visit the Panther Creek Winery. I am partial to anything Panthers.
http://panthercreekcellars.com/static/about
Panther Creek is located in McMinnville's former power plant, just off the main street in downtown McMinnville, Oregon. Built in 1923, this enormous brick building housed three massive diesel electric generators and provided power to the city for decades. It became the home of Panther Creek in 1989.
Another place to visit is the Air Museum
http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/
A place we visited a few times with fans and others
http://www.goldenvalleybrewery.com/
A place open 24 hours a take out and great for late night place after late games
http://www.yelp.com/biz/muchas-gracias-mcminnville
Quote from: wildcat11 on May 09, 2012, 12:23:36 PM
For those coming out to the regional just an FYI...On the 18th and 19th McMinnville is hosting their annual UFO Festival in downtown Mac. Trade in your ball cap for a tinfoil hat and go check it out between games.
http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival (http://www.downtownmcminnville.com/2012-ufo-festival)
Seems like potential inspiration for an episode of Portlandia.
Hosted by Linfield, McMinnville, Ore.
1 Concordia (Texas) (36-9)
2 Trinity (Texas) (34-10)
3 Whitworth (26-13-1)
4 La Verne (25-14)
5 Coe (27-15)
6 St. John's (29-14)
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 09:29:14 AM
Hosted by Linfield, McMinnville, Ore.
1 Concordia (Texas) (36-9)
2 Trinity (Texas) (34-10)
3 Whitworth (26-13-1)
4 La Verne (25-14)
5 Coe (27-15)
6 St. John's (29-14)
CTX's regional to win. *^*&^!! injuries.
Here is the link to the regional with game times etc.
http://www.linfield.edu/sports/2012mcminnvilleregional.html
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 09:29:14 AM
Hosted by Linfield, McMinnville, Ore.
1 Concordia (Texas) (36-9)
2 Trinity (Texas) (34-10)
3 Whitworth (26-13-1)
4 La Verne (25-14)
5 Coe (27-15)
6 St. John’s (29-14)
Well its good to see the NCAA and committee's did that right thing in the West but
only 4 teams out of 39 in the West make it in 2012. I hope in 2013 the West turns things around and has 6 teams in the regionals with CTX as a host also.
1 Concordia (Texas) (36-9) ERA 2.60 FLD% .967 AVG .292 OB% .401 SLG% .379
2 Trinity (Texas) (34-10) ERA 3.42 FLD% .967 AVG .324 OB% .411 SLG% .465
3 Whitworth (26-13-1) ERA 4.67 FLD% .966 AVG .303 OB% .379 SLG% .409
4 La Verne (25-14) ERA 4.71 FLD% .950 AVG .306 OB% .395 SLG% .419
5 Coe (27-15) ERA 4.11 FLD% .958 AVG .310 OB% .389 SLG% 417
6 St. John's (29-14) ERA 2.95 FLD% .959 AVG .275 OB% .351 SLG% .387
CTX TU Whit LV Coe St Johns
Batting Ave 192 46 131 117 156 8
Scoring 138 84 61 44 148 5
Runs 70 30 58 49 160 12
HR/gm 298 8 42 68 91 22
Slug 209 22 123 95 154 1
Stolen Bases 136 210 164 293 58 2
Base on Balls 2 28 193 261 165 38
Sac Bunts 1 38 22 26 165 62
ERA 8 44 151 158 67 37
K's/9 16 1 166 181 272 4
Hits Allowed 15 8 97 108 114 38
Field % 21 25 27 182 128 154
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Could someone explain how to insert a table or a spreadsheet?
Here are the NCAA numbers by rank in the various categories. Based on this my new dark horse is St. John's. Actually they are not a dark horse based on their numbers....
I think their fate will be decided tomorrow in game one. If they can beat CTX then they have a good shot at winning the regional. It looks like a classic case of offense vs pitching. I am hoping to get to the game to see the last half. Their weakness looks like defense, but if they can jump on CTX early they might be able to shake them up a bit, as CTX does not look like they can hang with a high scoring team.
Does anyone know if they are a fast ball hitting team?
If it stays warm in Oregon like 2009 balls will travel but this was in pre BBCOR bat days also.
Rainy and cold would favor pitching and defense. Right now does not look any rain for the regional.
http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/45.210116,-123.198716
Day 1 Predictions
CTX over St Johns
Trinity over Coe
La Verne over Whitworth
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 15, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
Day 1 Predictions
CTX over St Johns
Trinity over Coe
La Verne over Whitworth
I agree except I am going to predict a big upset in game 1 with St. Johns over CTX. I looked at their stats and they have one pitcher who is 10-0 and if he can do well I think the offense for St Johns is going to surprise CTX.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 15, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
Team................ | CTX | TU | Whit | LV | Coe | St Johns |
| Batting Ave | 192 | 46 | 131 | 117 | 156 | 8 |
| Scoring | 138 | 84 | 61 | 44 | 148 | 5 |
| Runs | 70 | 30 | 58 | 49 | 160 | 12 |
| HR/gm | 298 | 8 | 42 | 68 | 91 | 22 |
| Slug | 209 | 22 | 123 | 95 | 154 | 1 |
| Stolen Bases | 136 | 210 | 164 | 293 | 58 | 2 |
| Base on Balls | 2 | 28 | 193 | 261 | 165 | 38 |
| Sac Bunts | 1 | 38 | 22 | 26 | 165 | 62 |
| ERA | 8 | 44 | 151 | 158 | 67 | 37 |
| K's/9 | 16 | 1 | 166 | 181 | 272 | 4 |
| Hits Allowed | 15 | 8 | 97 | 108 | 114 | 38 |
| Field % | 21 | 25 | 27 | 182 | 128 | 154 |
Could someone explain how to insert a table or a spreadsheet?
Here are the NCAA numbers by rank in the various categories. Based on this my new dark horse is St. John's. Actually they are not a dark horse based on their numbers....
I think their fate will be decided tomorrow in game one. If they can beat CTX then they have a good shot at winning the regional. It looks like a classic case of offense vs pitching. I am hoping to get to the game to see the last half. Their weakness looks like defense, but if they can jump on CTX early they might be able to shake them up a bit, as CTX does not look like they can hang with a high scoring team.
Does anyone know if they are a fast ball hitting team?
Copy the post and look at what I had to do to create a table. :) ;)
Thanks for the research. +1!
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 15, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 15, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
Team................ | CTX | TU | Whit | LV | Coe | St Johns |
| Batting Ave | 192 | 46 | 131 | 117 | 156 | 8 |
| Scoring | 138 | 84 | 61 | 44 | 148 | 5 |
| Runs | 70 | 30 | 58 | 49 | 160 | 12 |
| HR/gm | 298 | 8 | 42 | 68 | 91 | 22 |
| Slug | 209 | 22 | 123 | 95 | 154 | 1 |
| Stolen Bases | 136 | 210 | 164 | 293 | 58 | 2 |
| Base on Balls | 2 | 28 | 193 | 261 | 165 | 38 |
| Sac Bunts | 1 | 38 | 22 | 26 | 165 | 62 |
| ERA | 8 | 44 | 151 | 158 | 67 | 37 |
| K's/9 | 16 | 1 | 166 | 181 | 272 | 4 |
| Hits Allowed | 15 | 8 | 97 | 108 | 114 | 38 |
| Field % | 21 | 25 | 27 | 182 | 128 | 154 |
Could someone explain how to insert a table or a spreadsheet?
Here are the NCAA numbers by rank in the various categories. Based on this my new dark horse is St. John's. Actually they are not a dark horse based on their numbers....
I think their fate will be decided tomorrow in game one. If they can beat CTX then they have a good shot at winning the regional. It looks like a classic case of offense vs pitching. I am hoping to get to the game to see the last half. Their weakness looks like defense, but if they can jump on CTX early they might be able to shake them up a bit, as CTX does not look like they can hang with a high scoring team.
Does anyone know if they are a fast ball hitting team?
Copy the post and look at what I had to do to create a table. :) ;)
Thanks for the research. +1!
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 15, 2012, 06:42:15 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 15, 2012, 06:28:16 PM
Day 1 Predictions
CTX over St Johns
Trinity over Coe
La Verne over Whitworth
I agree except I am going to predict a big upset in game 1 with St. Johns over CTX. I looked at their stats and they have one pitcher who is 10-0 and if he can do well I think the offense for St Johns is going to surprise CTX.
Looking at St. John's , Who is 10-0????
http://www.gojohnnies.com/custompages/Statistics/Baseball/2012/teamcume.htm
Stats don't show a guy being 10-0 for the Jonnies. Zimmerman and Cline are their two best arms as they combined for a 14-7 record. Scott Hayes has been pretty consistent all year so I like CTX chances tomorrow against the lower seeded Jonnies.
I have no idea what the heck I was looking at.... my D'oh moment at work.
I still want to know how to insert a table.
...and I am still calling for an upset. Remember you heard it here.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 15, 2012, 09:39:08 PM
I have no idea what the heck I was looking at.... my D'oh moment at work.
I still want to know how to insert a table.
...and I am still calling for an upset. Remember you heard it here.
If you will "quote" my post, you will see the typing that you must do to fill each cell in the the columns and rows of the table. There is no automated way to do it., that I have found.
Beautiful day today in McMinnville. I was able to watch a little bit of the team practices. Getting excited for the tournament, even if I don't have a horse in the race! Bring on tomorrow!
Holy moses, I have a day job!
Johhny U where are you!
I have faith in the West Region teams.
Here's to victories for Concordia and Trinity tomorrow!
Saint John's isn't the most consistent hitting team, but they can chuck it. The top three starters are very good and closer Joey Long is tough. One note though: Hayden Zimmerman threw a lot of pitches at the MIAC Playoffs, so I'm curious to see how he does.
Quote from: El Hombre on May 15, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
I have faith in the West Region teams.
Here's to victories for Concordia and Trinity tomorrow!
Remember the Alamo!
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fde%2FFalloftheAlamo.jpg%2F250px-FalloftheAlamo.jpg&hash=85bf3ed1dcd44167ad0a525b34646d6ba073747f)
Concordia up 3-1 on the Jonnies early. Zimmerman (St Johns) seems to be all over the place and the infield has booted some balls and not helping the cause. Early jitters showing for both teams in the field.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 16, 2012, 12:03:33 AM
Quote from: El Hombre on May 15, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
I have faith in the West Region teams.
Here's to victories for Concordia and Trinity tomorrow!
Remember the Alamo!
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Did Davy Crockett pitch for the Texians?
6-1 as Concordia continues to push more runs over with timely hitting. Hayes is throwing very well but this could be his last inning with back to back hits in the 8th.
As I am writing this Concordia yanked Hays with bases juiced up 6-1...I am kind of perplexed at bringing in Bryant Hernandez. Only 8 appearances on the year, and one of the highest ERA's on the team.
I was surprised by Hernandez as well. Concordia ends the threat and closes the game out with a 6-3 win.
Quote from: Warren Thompson on May 16, 2012, 04:15:25 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 16, 2012, 12:03:33 AM
Quote from: El Hombre on May 15, 2012, 11:15:59 PM
I have faith in the West Region teams.
Here's to victories for Concordia and Trinity tomorrow!
Remember the Alamo!
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2Fd%2Fde%2FFalloftheAlamo.jpg%2F250px-FalloftheAlamo.jpg&hash=85bf3ed1dcd44167ad0a525b34646d6ba073747f)
Did Davy Crockett pitch for the Texians?
Yes, and I think that
Phil Collins (http://www.amazon.com/The-Alamo-Beyond-Collectors-Journey/dp/1933337508) has the original 1836 Davy Crockett baseball card.
Quote from: dp643 on May 16, 2012, 05:06:56 PM
As I am writing this Concordia yanked Hays with bases juiced up 6-1...I am kind of perplexed at bringing in Bryant Hernandez. Only 8 appearances on the year, and one of the highest ERA's on the team.
No way to know other than sheer speculation.
One thought is the coaches know they might need to go deep into the pitching staff as the games progress.
Rather than put a little used pitcher into a big game later in the Regional, some will try it early in the Regional, with a pretty safe lead, with the pitcher on a short rope, to get out the nerves and see if he can have success and gain confidence, which could be welcome in later games.
Appears not to have worked here and clearly there was a very short leash.
Quote from: infielddad on May 16, 2012, 05:32:11 PM
Quote from: dp643 on May 16, 2012, 05:06:56 PM
As I am writing this Concordia yanked Hays with bases juiced up 6-1...I am kind of perplexed at bringing in Bryant Hernandez. Only 8 appearances on the year, and one of the highest ERA's on the team.
No way to know other than sheer speculation.
One thought is the coaches know they might need to go deep into the pitching staff as the games progress.
Rather than put a little used pitcher into a big game later in the Regional, some will try it early in the Regional, with a pretty safe lead, with the pitcher on a short rope, to get out the nerves and see if he can have success and gain confidence, which could be welcome in later games.
Appears not to have worked here and clearly there was a very short leash.
I like the strategy. He got away with it.
He didnt necessarily get away with it. Hernandez walked in a run and then was yanked. I assume he was brought in just for that one hitter matchup. He has a high strikeout ratio and a low opponents batting average, so its not like he is chopped liver. He might be a splitter or curveball guy who can induce a double play and it was the right matchup. Anyways, kudos to CTX for setting themselves up nicely in the tournament.
Trinity's Ben Klimesh (13-2) scatters six hits and strikes out 12 in a complete-game victory over Coe, 2-0. Ben Morris (7-3) only allowed five hits for the Coehawks, but Trinity was able to score twice with two outs in the third thanks to timely hitting by Kevin Clements and Christian Muscarello, who was the only Tiger with either an extra base hit (his double in the third) or more than one hit on the day. Coe had runners on second and third with one out or less twice but was unable to score either time. The leadoff runner doubled in the ninth but Klimesh responded by striking out the side.
No surprises CTX and Trinity both win. No box scores up yet.
http://www.linfield.edu/sports/2012mcminnvilleregional.html (http://www.linfield.edu/sports/2012mcminnvilleregional.html)
Whitworth wins 5-0
Scheibe threw 9 innings of scoreless baseball. Struck out 9, gave up 6 hits.
I heard CTX looked good, similar to TU in stature but hit the ball better today even though the box only had them for 6 hits. TU hit the ball hard but the Coe coaching staff did a superb job in positioning their fielders and TU kept hitting it to guys.
All teams should have the jitters out now, and for TU it was first game after a long lay off out of the way, but they will have to do better with their bats. Klimesh was spectacular, hung a couple of sliders that got hit, plus a couple of flairs, but I don't think those boys from Iowa had seen anything like him this year. He worked his way out of 3 jams just like he has done all year. This was Klimeshes game.
The dream continues for Whiworth.
Great weather, beautiful place. Hotels spead all over the valley - up to an hour drive for some.
Tomorrow.
Saint John's vs. Coe, loser out, Noon
Concordia vs. La Verne, 3:30 p.m.
Trinity vs. Whitworth, 7 p.m.
Theme for day 1 was good pitching, good defense, timely hitting. 2 shutouts. 3 errors total for the winners vs 5 errors for losers.
Some notables
Concordia had 4 sacrifices ;D
St Johns 3 wild pitches, gave up 2 unearned runs walked 4 hit 2 batters :'(
Coe struck out 12 times left 8 on base while being shut out :o
La Verne struck out 9 times ::)
La Verne starting pitcher had a 2-5 record 5.01 ERA....Why is he a game 1 starter ???
http://www.linfield.edu/sports/2012mcminnvilleregional.html
Oregon is a beautiful place when the weather is nice.
Now for Day 2 predictions
2 and Q
Coe and La Verne
Day 2 winners
St. Johns
Concordia
Whitworth
Day 2 predictions.
St. Johns
Concordia
Trinity
Setting up the critical game of the Regional - Concordia vs Trinity on Friday.
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 17, 2012, 10:38:43 AM
Setting up the critical game of the Regional - Concordia vs Trinity on Friday.
I disagree with this 100%. The biggest game is Trinity/Whitworth. Lets be honest, without Klimesh throwing the game he did yesterday I think Trinity would have dropped that game. That was one hell of a performance and I agree, those Coe guys looked like they had never seen anything close to that. Whitworth posted a shutout as well but gave themselves a little breathing room after their initial score. I don't think the same can be said for the Trinity game as it was in doubt until the final strike.
That being said, if your prediction comes through and Concordia and Trinity do meet up, I am going to have to say the winner of that is in mighty good shape.
Looks like there was some pretty solid baseball played yesterday and the teams that were expected to win, did. Today is a whole new day and I do think the pressure is on Trinity to show that they can win without Klimesh on the hill. Since Lucero went down it has been a pretty average team at 7-4. Lets see what happens.
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 17, 2012, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 17, 2012, 10:38:43 AM
Setting up the critical game of the Regional - Concordia vs Trinity on Friday.
I disagree with this 100%. The biggest game is Trinity/Whitworth. Lets be honest, without Klimesh throwing the game he did yesterday I think Trinity would have dropped that game. That was one hell of a performance and I agree, those Coe guys looked like they had never seen anything close to that. Whitworth posted a shutout as well but gave themselves a little breathing room after their initial score. I don't think the same can be said for the Trinity game as it was in doubt until the final strike.
That being said, if your prediction comes through and Concordia and Trinity do meet up, I am going to have to say the winner of that is in mighty good shape.
Looks like there was some pretty solid baseball played yesterday and the teams that were expected to win, did. Today is a whole new day and I do think the pressure is on Trinity to show that they can win without Klimesh on the hill. Since Lucero went down it has been a pretty average team at 7-4. Lets see what happens.
I agree with this. If Trinity does manage to win today, they are going to be strapped for pitching in the third game. In my opinion they only have one shot at winning this region, and that would be to win out. If they drop today's game they will be on life support unless Klimesh can throw on 0 and 1 days rest.
Quote from: dp643 on May 17, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 17, 2012, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 17, 2012, 10:38:43 AM
Setting up the critical game of the Regional - Concordia vs Trinity on Friday.
I disagree with this 100%. The biggest game is Trinity/Whitworth. Lets be honest, without Klimesh throwing the game he did yesterday I think Trinity would have dropped that game. That was one hell of a performance and I agree, those Coe guys looked like they had never seen anything close to that. Whitworth posted a shutout as well but gave themselves a little breathing room after their initial score. I don't think the same can be said for the Trinity game as it was in doubt until the final strike.
That being said, if your prediction comes through and Concordia and Trinity do meet up, I am going to have to say the winner of that is in mighty good shape.
Looks like there was some pretty solid baseball played yesterday and the teams that were expected to win, did. Today is a whole new day and I do think the pressure is on Trinity to show that they can win without Klimesh on the hill. Since Lucero went down it has been a pretty average team at 7-4. Lets see what happens.
I agree with this. If Trinity does manage to win today, they are going to be strapped for pitching in the third game. In my opinion they only have one shot at winning this region, and that would be to win out. If they drop today's game they will be on life support unless Klimesh can throw on 0 and 1 days rest.
I see Concordia and Whitworth battling for West Region title. I don't see Trinity as the same team without Lucero. Winning Regionals is about having enough good pitching, playing good defense and getting timely hits to drive in the runs.
Day 2 Winner PredictionsConcordia-TX :)
Whitworth :D
St. Johns ;D
I laugh at the strapped for pitchers comment they have tons of arms available. They have used one guy so far...and have 5 starters available plus other pen guys, plus their closer who can also start if needed. People do not understand how much pitching this team has.
Coe beat St Johns for the first elimination today. (7-2)
Trinity is pretty darn deep, but he was pointing out that Trinity is 7-4 since Lucero went down. It def hurts when its such a dominating arm such as his, the guys behind him will have some big shoes to fill.
Quote from: BamColt on May 17, 2012, 06:09:23 PM
Trinity is pretty darn deep, but he was pointing out that Trinity is 7-4 since Lucero went down. It def hurts when its such a dominating arm such as his, the guys behind him will have some big shoes to fill.
Is Klimesh 4-0 or 5-0 in that time? Thanks
Quote from: Jack Parkman on May 17, 2012, 12:26:34 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 17, 2012, 10:38:43 AM
Setting up the critical game of the Regional - Concordia vs Trinity on Friday.
I disagree with this 100%. The biggest game is Trinity/Whitworth. Lets be honest, without Klimesh throwing the game he did yesterday I think Trinity would have dropped that game. That was one hell of a performance and I agree, those Coe guys looked like they had never seen anything close to that. Whitworth posted a shutout as well but gave themselves a little breathing room after their initial score. I don't think the same can be said for the Trinity game as it was in doubt until the final strike.
That being said, if your prediction comes through and Concordia and Trinity do meet up, I am going to have to say the winner of that is in mighty good shape.
Looks like there was some pretty solid baseball played yesterday and the teams that were expected to win, did. Today is a whole new day and I do think the pressure is on Trinity to show that they can win without Klimesh on the hill. Since Lucero went down it has been a pretty average team at 7-4. Lets see what happens.
I agree - this is a critical game. Both teams have some good bats, and they will need them in this game - it may take 9 or 10 runs to win this one.
In the Big Inning...
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Concordia (Texas) 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 - - 2 6 3
La Verne 0 0 0 0 1 0 5* - - 6 7 0
* still in the bottom of the 7th
Does anyone know what happened to Kyle Rodriguez and Collin Janssen for CTX? Neither are playing right now. Rodriguez didn't play the first game either, but Janssen must have gotten hurt. That would be horrible for CTX.
If trinity is so stacked with arms why do we have so many innings concentrated on 2 pitchers? One Of which is done?
La Verne over CTX is final. 8-5...
I thunk the story on TU arms is what it's always been: tons of talent that doesn't always equate to effectiveness. Sometimes those guys mature and turn into a Ben Klimesh. After Lucero, TU has a bunch of guys that are like Klimesh was before his junior year. But Klimesh also no hit Notre Dame through 6 imnings as a freshman. For the remainder of this tournamwnt, I expect that TU arms will either get really hit around or they will leave other teams questioning why these guys didn't get more innings during the regular season - it could go either way.
Looks like Trinity is setting themselves up very nicely, especially with Concordia losing to La Verne.
Tanner Barron (4-1) goes eight innings, allows three runs, eight hits, and strikes out 12 Whitworth batters to send Trinity as the sole undefeated team into day 3 of the Western regional. Jules Cronk had three hits and five RBI including a grand slam homer in the third, and Pat Hirschberg also added a two-run shot. Carson Blumenthal (5-5) took the loss after allowing six runs in four innings of work.
Whitworth is the real deal. Solid team all the way around. Someone said they had 6-7 starting freshmen, if this is the case then they will be a force in the Nwest (and West) for some years. Barron was solid, and the TU bats are starting to warm up again, and defensively they made game changing plays, particularly the CFer. If the OF misses three balls they tracked down it is a different game.
The thing about Western teams is that they tend to establish 3 starting pitchers and then everyone else gets the scraps. Early in the season it was Klimesh, Lucero and Fink. Fink went down and Barron stepped in, and with Lucero out they have 2-3 others ready to fill those roles, so as I have said pitching will not be their problem. There are still some more electric arms that will be seen the next couple of days all they need to do is throw strikes and let the defense work.
I am not sure how much pitching Whitworth has left but they will give Concordia a game tomorrow. If Concordia kicks the ball around again they will lose.
If TU bats get going like earlly in the season they are going to be very very tough. They don't have 1-2 mashers just 9 guys that can beat you and you just don't know who it will be - which makes them dangerous.
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
TU looks like they could win the Regional now.....
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 15, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Quote from: 108 Stitches on May 15, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
Team................ | CTX | TU | Whit | LV | Coe | St Johns |
| Batting Ave | 192 | 46 | 131 | 117 | 156 | 8 |
| Scoring | 138 | 84 | 61 | 44 | 148 | 5 |
| Runs | 70 | 30 | 58 | 49 | 160 | 12 |
| HR/gm | 298 | 8 | 42 | 68 | 91 | 22 |
| Slug | 209 | 22 | 123 | 95 | 154 | 1 |
| Stolen Bases | 136 | 210 | 164 | 293 | 58 | 2 |
| Base on Balls | 2 | 28 | 193 | 261 | 165 | 38 |
| Sac Bunts | 1 | 38 | 22 | 26 | 165 | 62 |
| ERA | 8 | 44 | 151 | 158 | 67 | 37 |
| K's/9 | 16 | 1 | 166 | 181 | 272 | 4 |
| Hits Allowed | 15 | 8 | 97 | 108 | 114 | 38 |
| Field % | 21 | 25 | 27 | 182 | 128 | 154 |
Could someone explain how to insert a table or a spreadsheet?
Here are the NCAA numbers by rank in the various categories. Based on this my new dark horse is St. John's. Actually they are not a dark horse based on their numbers....
I think their fate will be decided tomorrow in game one. If they can beat CTX then they have a good shot at winning the regional. It looks like a classic case of offense vs pitching. I am hoping to get to the game to see the last half. Their weakness looks like defense, but if they can jump on CTX early they might be able to shake them up a bit, as CTX does not look like they can hang with a high scoring team.
Does anyone know if they are a fast ball hitting team?
Copy the post and look at what I had to do to create a table. :) ;)
Thanks for the research. +1!
Cool Ralph Thanks for the work on the Table that should help. +1
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
They are not in the line-up today against Whitworth.
Concordia is in huge trouble.
They have 1 hit through 7 and have just given up 5 runs to Whitworth in the bottom of the 7th..
5-0 Whitworth at the end of 7!
Looks like Whitworth is the real deal. But Trinity, when they are hitting the ball...which they did a great job of last night...look out. I'm impressed with their depth on the mound. To lose your #2 and still throw as well as they have been, gonna be very very tough to beat. It's their regional to lose IMO
It's a final. Whitworth beats CTX 5-1
Better get some water and get ready for another matchup with Trinity tonight!
Looks like my CTX pick could be the next flight from Oregon to TEXas*
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
They are not in the line-up today against Whitworth.
Ralph -
Does anyone have any insight on why? Are they both hurt?
Looks like it could be Trinity TX going to Appleton....
Don't be making any more predictions Crash... ;)
The team going to Appleton will be the last one standing tomorrow. Lots of baseball to be played. Ask Marietta and Birmingham.
Coe up by 2 on LaVerne as I type this.
Quote from: El Hombre on May 18, 2012, 06:25:04 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
They are not in the line-up today against Whitworth.
Ralph -
Does anyone have any insight on why? Are they both hurt?
No, I have not heard.
Well looks like Boggs comes up short again. Yes i'm really interested on hearing what happen to Jansen and K-rod.
Quote from: El Hombre on May 18, 2012, 06:25:04 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
They are not in the line-up today against Whitworth.
Ralph -
Does anyone have any insight on why? Are they both hurt?
I know that Janssen got hurt. A friend of mine from Concordia retweeted one of Collin's tweets and his left hand looks like a blown up surgical glove. Rodriguez didn't appear in any games, so he could be hurt or grades maybe?
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 08:46:32 PM
Well looks like Boggs comes up short again. Yes i'm really interested on hearing what happen to Jansen and K-rod.
Please post the response.
Coe just keeps coming, 5-0 final.
They drew the worst possible pitching draw in the first round (Klimesh).
Whitworth has jumped all over Trinity. 9-0 in the 5th
Now 12-0 top of 7. Nice to see everyone besides Pfeffer hitting the ball so well. Hopefully he gets it going. If they can get past Trinity tonight they are going to need his bat
La Verne gets eliminated 2 errors and score ZERO runs for the 2nd time....I guess good pitching shuts down the so called big bats of La Verne...
Quote from: (509)Rat on May 18, 2012, 11:35:59 PM
Whitworth has jumped all over Trinity. 9-0 in the 5th
Now 12-0 top of 7. Nice to see everyone besides Pfeffer hitting the ball so well. Hopefully he gets it going. If they can get past Trinity tonight they are going to need his bat
Should be a great Saturday......
Given Whitworth's offense, it's not surprising they could put up a 12 spot, however, their starting frosh P, who threw 8 scoreless, came in to this game with a 6.5 ERA on the year (in 71 IP) and an 8.00 (eight!) ERA in NWC play. Just goes to show I guess you never know who is going to rise up, plus, I think it is somewhat of a testament to the possibility that the NWC was a very, very strong offensive conference this year.
Should be a great day of games Saturday!
11 walks and 3 errors....ouch. The question for today is does Klimesh throw game 1 or does Bentz? Im really surprised Bentz didn't throw yesterday against whitworth.
Quote from: dp643 on May 19, 2012, 08:14:46 AM
11 walks and 3 errors....ouch. The question for today is does Klimesh throw game 1 or does Bentz? Im really surprised Bentz didn't throw yesterday against whitworth.
I was wondering the same thing about Klimesh. If you ask me, I don't see how you can not throw him in game 1 after what happened last night. There is no "hoping" to get to game 2 so you can use him then as that could blow up in a big way, leaving everyone questioning why they saved their best for a "possible" game. I am sometimes critical of what coaches do and I have talked about many choices that I didn't agree with by Trinity's coach but I think he is a smart enough person to see the logic.
Saturday Predictions
It won't be Chapman or Linfield :( :(
Team with the most runs wins... ;D ;D
I agree with Crash! ;D
Klimesh probably will be for game two. The objective is not to get to the final game but to get to Wisc, so I would imagine he will be for the final game. After the game got out of control they more or less went through the rotation 1 inning (or less) at a time and there were some kids who looked good who will likely go tomorrow game 1. They also have the two way freshmen who can throw tomorrow who was in the field.
Walks and errors did them, but not jumping on a 75 MPH fastball was crazy. It was just one of those games where everything went wrong. Flush it and come out today strong.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 19, 2012, 11:01:03 AM
Saturday Predictions
It won't be Chapman or Linfield :( :(
Team with the most runs wins... ;D ;D
I think you meant to predict it would be Coe then Whitworth.
Quote from: DoubleSteal on May 18, 2012, 08:49:02 PM
Quote from: El Hombre on May 18, 2012, 06:25:04 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 18, 2012, 03:26:14 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 18, 2012, 01:58:00 PM
That 5 run inning hurt. If Jansen and Rodriquez are out then you can pretty much schedule the flight home to Austin earlier than anticipated.
They are not in the line-up today against Whitworth.
Ralph -
Does anyone have any insight on why? Are they both hurt?
I know that Janssen got hurt. A friend of mine from Concordia retweeted one of Collin's tweets and his left hand looks like a blown up surgical glove. Rodriguez didn't appear in any games, so he could be hurt or grades maybe?
From what I have heard, Janssen broke his left hand catching in one of the regional games this week. He apparently was catching and reached out for the ball and the bat came through and hit his hand. And as for Rodriguez, it was a family related issue that kept him from traveling with the team :-[ praying for him and his family during this time! I hope everything is okay! Concordia had a great run this year, it was very unfortunate to see their season come to an end. Wish them the best of luck next year!
For you gamesurfers...
check out the very good webcast by Trinity TX of the Trinity Coe game.
Bottom of the 6th TU leads 3-2.
Justin Parker (Trinity SID), who has been training for a long time, stepped up to allow the usual 4 announcers (dad's) Kronk, Woodruff, and Pappas and Graham to just be fans. Go Tigers! Send Zach back to Wisconsin!
Trinity's depth is really being tested. Klimesh was pulled after 4, then Speer was pulled in the 5th, they now have a guy on the mound who hasn't pitched in 2 months.
Whitworth just brought their ace out of the bullpen. Hopefully Scheibe can finish it out.
3-2 Whitworth through 5. Gonna be a real nerve wracking finish!
Quote from: (509)Rat on May 19, 2012, 08:22:03 PM
Trinity's depth is really being tested. Klimesh was pulled after 4, then Speer was pulled in the 5th, they now have a guy on the mound who hasn't pitched in 2 months.***
Whitworth just brought their ace out of the bullpen. Hopefully Scheibe can finish it out.
3-2 Whitworth through 5. Gonna be a real nerve wracking finish!
Fink *** and Trinity's injured #2 Ryan Lucero were to the part of the pitching staff that got Trinity to #1 in week #4 - #6, early in the season.
Whitworth up 9-2
1 out away from winning the regional...
And that's all she wrote. Rat pile on the mound after the last out. 9-2 final
Make the NWC proud in Appleton!!!!
Wow still cant believe my 2002 team is the only team still from Texas to make it to Appleton. Congrats to Whitmore, I really thought Trinity had it in the bag.
BamColt:
I am sure you meant Whitworth. :-)
Plus K for your 10 year anniversary!
Congrats to whitworth on winning the west. Represent us well in the world series!
Yes my mistake. Trinity and Concordia both had a really good run but hopefully the ASC or the new aligned conference Trinity is in can get someone in there next season.
Congrats to Whitworth and Trinity for great seasons!
I am happy to see that a West Region team will represent the West in the World Series. If Whitworth plays as well as it did in the Regional, they will have a great run. Go Pirates - win one for the West!
Quote from: El Hombre on May 19, 2012, 11:55:57 PM
Congrats to Whitworth and Trinity for great seasons!
I am happy to see that a West Region team will represent the West in the World Series. If Whitworth plays as well as it did in the Regional, they will have a great run. Go Pirates - win one for the West!
I am glad that we had 2 West Region teams in the finals!
Coe had a strong run.
Congrats to Whitworth - proud of the TU gang for getting to that regional championship game despite the injuries and struggles late in the season.
Shows staying healthy is probably one of the most important factors in late season regional tournaments.
Quote from: BamColt on May 20, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Shows staying healthy is probably one of the most important factors in late season regional tournaments.
Whitworth had 2 errors in 5 games in the West Regionals and only gave up 3 runs in the 4 games they won.
Keys to their West Regional - Good Defense and Good Pitching,
Congrats to Whitworth, they will represent the West well. Strong offensive team, not sure about the pitching beyond Scheibe, but it was good enough to get them through, and they will score a lot of runs. Very young team that will be even scarier in the coming years.
Trinity overcame staggering injuries to get within three innings of Wisconsin. They lost two of the three starting pitchers; their slugging first basemen, and their SS had a severely sprained ankle that left him at 50% at best.
Their biggest issue IMO is their hitting. IMO they should have jumped all over some of the pitchers they faced and struggled stringing together hits against mediocre late tournament pitching. They only lose 1 position player and their DH and have seasoned players ready to step in plus everyone should get better by next year so I would expect an offensive improvement next year. Defensively they are solid and will be even better next year as they only lose one OFer and have more speed to replace him.
From what I saw they had by far the best pitching rotation there and are set for next year even loosing Klimesh and Lucero. They have 10 capable pitchers returning who will be fighting for the top three starting positions, not including any freshmen. From what I heard they have a very strong recruiting class coming in.
It would not surprise me one bit to see this match up next year in the Regionals, the NWC conference will be dealing with Whitworth for a number of years and they will not be a Cinderella story any more.
Congrats to them and looking forward to see how they do.
108, Ryan's a junior; was his injury career-ending?
Quote from: (509)Rat on May 19, 2012, 09:35:35 PM
Rat pile on the mound after the last out. 9-2 final
Congrats to Whitworth on the Regional title. 509...your baseball field is about 200 yards behind the Whitworth field house if plan on going to watch a game next year.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on May 20, 2012, 01:34:04 PM
108, Ryan's a junior; was his injury career-ending?
Tommy John, rehab time ~15-18 months, will likely redshirt next year.
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 20, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 20, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Shows staying healthy is probably one of the most important factors in late season regional tournaments.
Whitworth had 2 errors in 5 games in the West Regionals and only gave up 3 runs in the 4 games they won.
Keys to their West Regional - Good Defense and Good Pitching,
Yes, looking at the team stats for the regional, Whitworth was #1 in BA by a wide margin. They were #2 in team ERA with a 2.25, with #3 CTX a ways back at 4.3, and they were #1 in fielding %. Great performance. Bottom of the lineup seemed to really produce. When you consider how closely bunched the top 4 to 5 teams were in the NWC standings, it speaks to it being a pretty good conference this year..
Quote from: Whatagame on May 20, 2012, 04:26:53 PM
Quote from: CrashDavisD3 on May 20, 2012, 12:40:24 PM
Quote from: BamColt on May 20, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Shows staying healthy is probably one of the most important factors in late season regional tournaments.
Whitworth had 2 errors in 5 games in the West Regionals and only gave up 3 runs in the 4 games they won.
Keys to their West Regional - Good Defense and Good Pitching,
Yes, looking at the team stats for the regional, Whitworth was #1 in BA by a wide margin. They were #2 in team ERA with a 2.25, with #3 CTX a ways back at 4.3, and they were #1 in fielding %. Great performance. Bottom of the lineup seemed to really produce. When you consider how closely bunched the top 4 to 5 teams were in the NWC standings, it speaks to it being a pretty good conference this year..
#1 in fielding percentage with #2 in ERA gets you the Championship in the Regionals. This... is a simple game. You throw the ball. You hit the ball. You catch the ball. Do these well and you win games
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0ZHQ6GWlSM