The 2012 Central Regional will be held at the USA Baseball Stadium in Millington TN, hosted by Rhodes College.
I have copied this post from the Midwest Regional Board...
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 01, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 29, 2012, 11:31:51 PM
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Gonna go out onto the limb here...
Let's look at the concentration of teams which the NCAA needs to send to regionals by bus and not fly, I think that the NCAA puts the 6-team regionals at:
West -- McMinnville -- with room for two (non-West Region) teams from the Central Time Zone to be flown to Oregon, especially if the West only has one Pool C bid.
Central -- Memphis -- BSC moves into this region and Pool B Wash U. plus SLIAC, CCIW and IIAC and a Pool C.
South -- CNU -- Southernmost of the regionals in the Eastern time zone (CAC, ODAC, USASouth).
Midwest -- Prucha -- I have trouble finding 8, especially with 2 apparent vacancies in the West, even moving the Midwest Conference into Prucha.
All IIAC teams and most CCIW teams would require a flight to Millington.
Thanks.
1) BSC
2) SLIAC
3) Wash U as a Pool B/C.
Who are #4- #6 in that bracket?
CCIW -- IWU is 453 miles from Rhodes. Augustana is 549 miles.
HCAC -- Rose-Hulman is 402 miles. Anderson is 514 (508 by google maps to Millington). Franklin is 471 miles.
Pres AC -- Thomas More, currently 2nd on the Pres AC is 469 miles.
IIAC -- Central is 579 miles from Rhodes. Coe is 557 miles. Luther is 666 miles.
NCAC -- DePauw, currently 2nd in the NCAC, is 437 miles.
There may be a plane flight to Millington, regardless! I think that Millington may get filled first if there are only 6 bus rides.
I am using NCAA Travel Distance to Rhodes as the proxy.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 01, 2012, 02:29:50 AM
I have copied this post from the Midwest Regional Board...
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on May 01, 2012, 02:02:21 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 30, 2012, 10:49:41 PM
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 29, 2012, 11:31:51 PM
I think it will be an eight-team regional this year.
Gonna go out onto the limb here...
Let's look at the concentration of teams which the NCAA needs to send to regionals by bus and not fly, I think that the NCAA puts the 6-team regionals at:
West -- McMinnville -- with room for two (non-West Region) teams from the Central Time Zone to be flown to Oregon, especially if the West only has one Pool C bid.
Central -- Memphis -- BSC moves into this region and Pool B Wash U. plus SLIAC, CCIW and IIAC and a Pool C.
South -- CNU -- Southernmost of the regionals in the Eastern time zone (CAC, ODAC, USASouth).
Midwest -- Prucha -- I have trouble finding 8, especially with 2 apparent vacancies in the West, even moving the Midwest Conference into Prucha.
All IIAC teams and most CCIW teams would require a flight to Millington.
Thanks.
1) BSC
2) SLIAC
3) Wash U as a Pool B/C.
Who are #4- #6 in that bracket?
CCIW -- IWU is 453 miles from Rhodes. Augustana is 549 miles.
NPU is 535 miles.
My projected Central regional:
1. WashU
2. Birmingham Southern
3. North Park
4. Chicago
5. IWU??
6. Webster
Coe and St. Norbert move to the Midwest regional.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
My projected Central regional:
1. WashU
2. Birmingham Southern
3. North Park
4. Chicago
5. IWU??
6. Webster
Coe and St. Norbert move to the Midwest regional.
I don't think Coe goes to Whitewater. With St. John's just beating St. Thomas, I think that will help keep Coe in the "Central" region.
NCAA playoff field released (http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2012/05/playoff-field)
North Park will go to the Midwest Regional (Whitewater), along with Aurora and Concordia-Chicago. Illinois Wesleyan will go the the Central (Millington, TN) also with Wash U and Webster. Coe travels to Linfield in the West.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
My projected Central regional:
1. WashU
2. Birmingham Southern
3. North Park
4. Chicago
5. IWU??
6. Webster
Coe and St. Norbert move to the Midwest regional.
Any thoughts on why Chicago didn't get a bid? They had a higher regional ranking than IWU.
Quote from: mr_b on May 14, 2012, 07:23:33 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
My projected Central regional:
1. WashU
2. Birmingham Southern
3. North Park
4. Chicago
5. IWU??
6. Webster
Coe and St. Norbert move to the Midwest regional.
Any thoughts on why Chicago didn't get a bid? They had a higher regional ranking than IWU...
...until IWU played a more regionally ranked teams, played more in-region games and improved their SOS in the CCIW tournament.
But, that is my knee-jerk first response before analyzing the data more carefully.
The NCAA has not released the final regional ranking, yet and if they will.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on May 14, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
Quote from: mr_b on May 14, 2012, 07:23:33 AM
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 13, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
My projected Central regional:
1. WashU
2. Birmingham Southern
3. North Park
4. Chicago
5. IWU??
6. Webster
Coe and St. Norbert move to the Midwest regional.
Any thoughts on why Chicago didn't get a bid? They had a higher regional ranking than IWU...
...until IWU played a more regionally ranked teams, played more in-region games and improved their SOS in the CCIW tournament.
But, that is my knee-jerk first response before analyzing the data more carefully.
The NCAA has not released the final regional ranking, yet and if they will.
Official word is they will release the final rankings.
I can only imagine the debate once they do:)
For me, the key for IWU will be survival. When looking at their pitching staff, they do not have one guy who is an Ace. That normally makes it difficult in the first couple of games of a Regional tournament. Therefore, it will be important, as this team is pretty talented offensively, to survive to get into a 3rd game and beyond. The difference between the pitcher they will throw in the first game and the 3rd or 4th is pretty minimal.
Congratulations to Depauw for making the Tourney and getting shipped to Millington, for the Central regional.
Record against teams in their Regional:
Wash U. 3-1 (Three of these wins came early in the season in February, The loss come late in the season right before facing their nemesis, Wabash, and right before the NCAC tournament.)
Manchester 1-1 (This series were played in March) Edited Manchester is in the Mideast regional
Record vs other Central Region opponents:
#1 Birmingham-Southern (.500): 1-1 vs Emory
#2 WashU (.333): 3-6 (1-3 vs Depauw, 1-1 vs Emory, 1-1 vs Webster, 0-1 vs IWU)
#3 DePauw (.750): 1-3 vs WashU
#4 Emory (.500): (2-2) 1-1 vs Birmingham-Southern, 1-1 vs WashU,
#5 Webster (.500)r: 1-1 vs WashU
#6 IWU(1.000): 1-0 vs WashU
IWU and BSC are tied 1-1 in the bottom of the 3rd. Joe Sweeney gets the start for the Titans.
IWU takes a 2-1 lead in the top of the 5th and BSC comes rigth back in the bottom and ties it up on a HR by Maxwell.
2-2 thru 5
IWU got one more in the top of the 6th (and with two outs got men to 2nd and 3rd, but no dice).
BSC finally chased Sweeney with a single, walk, and triple in the the 7th, eventually scoring 3 to go up 5-3. The Titans got one back in the top of the 8th, but with only three outs remaining, trail 5-4.
AAARRGH!! On what would have been the third out of a 1,2,3 bottom of the 8th, a throwing error got the man on. BSC eventually capitalized with two unearned runs. >:(
The 9th is underway with BSC up 7-4.
And, moments later, that is the final score.
The NCAA is terrible at seeding these regionals. DePauw should have been #2 over Wash U based solely on their 3-1 record against the Bears this season, and Emory probably should have been #3, although after 1 & 2 the other 4 teams could have probably been placed anywhere. But they did Webster a huge favor by giving them the matchup against Wash U.
IWU hangs on to knock of WashU 3-2.
Quote from: BigPoppa on May 17, 2012, 03:07:52 PM
IWU hangs on to knock of WashU 3-2.
Wash U is therefore eliminated, reinforcing my questioning of NCAA seeding decisions since as the #2 seed they lost to the #5 and #6 seeds.
Emory lost to DePauw yesterday and Birmingham Southern today. Emory is eliminated.
Am I reading the schedule correctly that BSC plays the winner of the currently-ongoing Webster/DePauw game at noon tomorrow (winners' bracket) followed at 3:30 by IWU vs. the loser of Webster/DePauw (elimination game)?
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 17, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Am I reading the schedule correctly that BSC plays the winner of the currently-ongoing Webster/DePauw game at noon tomorrow (winners' bracket) followed at 3:30 by IWU vs. the loser of Webster/DePauw (elimination game)?
That's correct according to what the announcer is saying, and makes sense as the winner of Webster/DePauw will be undefeated and IWU and the loser will have one loss each. However, it would make more sense for the losers game to be played first and the winners game to be played second.
The announcer just noted that both UAA teams were the first two to be eliminated.
Webster 10, DePauw 2. (It was still a game until the bottom of the 8th when Webster tacked on 5 more runs.)
Tomorrow: noon (CDT) BSC vs. Webster; 3:30 IWU vs. DePauw; 7 loser of noon game vs. winner of 3:30 game.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on May 17, 2012, 09:55:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 17, 2012, 09:39:29 PM
Am I reading the schedule correctly that BSC plays the winner of the currently-ongoing Webster/DePauw game at noon tomorrow (winners' bracket) followed at 3:30 by IWU vs. the loser of Webster/DePauw (elimination game)?
That's correct according to what the announcer is saying, and makes sense as the winner of Webster/DePauw will be undefeated and IWU and the loser will have one loss each. However, it would make more sense for the losers game to be played first and the winners game to be played second.
The announcer just noted that both UAA teams were the first two to be eliminated.
Having the schedule this way rewards the team that goes 2-0 and then loses by giving them a break in between games.
Quote from: CCIWFAN6 on May 18, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
Having the schedule this way rewards the team that goes 2-0 and then loses by giving them a break in between games.
Got it. This makes sense.
After five, Webster 5, BSC 0(!)
Steven Dooley has yielded only one hit to one of the best offenses in d3!
A 5 hit complete game for Dooley after pitching 3 innings of relief Wednesday and 2.1 innings yesterday.
Quote from: y_jack_lok on May 18, 2012, 03:35:13 PM
A 5 hit complete game for Dooley after pitching 3 innings of relief Wednesday and 2.1 innings yesterday.
VERY impressive - but will he be able to lift his arm by morning? ;)
Webster is now guaranteed a spot in the title game(s) tomorrow, facing the survivor of IWU/DePauw coming up next, then that winner vs. BSC in the late game today.
IWU and DePauw in a pitchers' duel after four - still scoreless and the teams have 5 hits combined. Not the sort of game one really expects when you get to #3 pitchers!
The L by BSC does not surprise me too much. Their 2-3-4 were as good as it gets, but the bottom half and lead off were good, but nothing outstanding IMO. BSC had 8 hits vs TU, but 5 were from two batters.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 18, 2012, 05:34:58 PM
IWU and DePauw in a pitchers' duel after four - still scoreless and the teams have 5 hits combined. Not the sort of game one really expects when you get to #3 pitchers!
And right after I post, the Titans chase DePauw's starter! One run in, men at second and third w/ 1 out. (It wouldn't bother me at all if Chris Bobo continued a 'solo duel' for a few more innings! ;D)
After Czarnowski's 1-run double chased the starter, Frerick immediately greeted the reliever with a 2-run double! ;D Middle of the fifth, IWU 3, DePauw 0.
The Titans added three more in the 6th (including a 2-run double by Czarnowski), while Chris Bobo has continued to pitch magnificently. At the end of 7, IWU 6, DePauw 0.
If the Titan defense hadn't suffered a sudden collapse, Chris Bobo would have had a complete game shutout. Leading 6-0 in the bottom of the 9th, the first two men reached base on errors; he got the third man out, but Martel decided on a fresh arm to close it out. John Munyon did just that - first batter hits into a game-ending DP! ;D
Next up: a replay of game one of the regional, but with hopefully a different result! #1 BSC vs. #6 IWU; winner meets Webster for a WS ticket tomorrow.
End of 2: BSC 3, IWU 0.
A gripe on scoring: Nick Mehn just didn't have it tonight, and was pulled after a single and a walk in the second with nobody out. Still, it seems a bit harsh to charge him with those two earned runs when they scored on a bunt single (TO the relief pitcher), a HBP w/ the bases loaded, and a balk with the bases loaded! 'Earned' at all seems dubious; charged as earned runs to Mehn seems cruel and unusual! 8-) I'm sure it was 'correct', but it just doesn't feel 'right'.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 18, 2012, 08:42:50 PM
End of 2: BSC 3, IWU 0.
A gripe on scoring: Nick Mehn just didn't have it tonight, and was pulled after a single and a walk in the second with nobody out. Still, it seems a bit harsh to charge him with those two earned runs when they scored on a bunt single (TO the relief pitcher), a HBP w/ the bases loaded, and a balk with the bases loaded! 'Earned' at all seems dubious; charged as earned runs to Mehn seems cruel and unusual! 8-) I'm sure it was 'correct', but it just doesn't feel 'right'.
Why not? He put them on, and they eventually scored without an error or a passed ball.
Quote from: mr_b on May 18, 2012, 09:07:49 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 18, 2012, 08:42:50 PM
End of 2: BSC 3, IWU 0.
A gripe on scoring: Nick Mehn just didn't have it tonight, and was pulled after a single and a walk in the second with nobody out. Still, it seems a bit harsh to charge him with those two earned runs when they scored on a bunt single (TO the relief pitcher), a HBP w/ the bases loaded, and a balk with the bases loaded! 'Earned' at all seems dubious; charged as earned runs to Mehn seems cruel and unusual! 8-) I'm sure it was 'correct', but it just doesn't feel 'right'.
Why not? He put them on, and they eventually scored without an error or a passed ball.
Like I said, it was 'correct', but not sure it was 'right'. A bunt single to the pitcher, a HBP, and a balk sure 'feel' like errors!
Bottom of the 3rd, the Titans tie it 4-4. Short lived. BSC gets 5 in the top of the 5th (Pitcher #2 for the Titans loads the bases; pitcher #3 immediately gives up a slam and a triple; pitcher #4 retires the side, but the guy on third scores.
Middle of the 4th, BSC 9, IWU 4.
To be fair to pitcher #3, he gave up a sinking line drive that IWU's CF dove for but missed. Looking back, I'm sure he wishes he would have played it on one hop and limited the batter to a single and one or two RBIs.
The Titans seem to have finally found the right arm: Jeff Johnson has gone three full innings with 1 hit, no runs. Now it is up to the hitters, as they still trail 9-5 at the end of 6.
(BTW, my favorite pitcher, Justin Verlander, lost his no-hit bid after 8.1 tonight - had to 'settle' for a 1-hit shutout. I wonder if he has any eligibility left?! ;D)
Quote from: TitanPride on May 18, 2012, 10:05:20 PM
To be fair to pitcher #3, he gave up a sinking line drive that IWU's CF dove for but missed. Looking back, I'm sure he wishes he would have played it on one hop and limited the batter to a single and one or two RBIs.
Thanks for the info - I'm just following on livestats, so did not know that. How rare must a grand slam, inside-the-park homer be?! 8-)
And since the next batter had a triple, it actually wouldn't have mattered in the score.
IWU gets two more in the bottom of the 7th; now trail only 9-7 entering the 8th.
Jeff Johnson was fantastic in relief: 6 shutout innings! Alas, the Titan hitters could not overcome the early mayhem. Titans eliminated, 9-7.
Tomorrow BSC takes on undefeated Webster for the ticket to Appleton. BSC must win twice before Webster wins once.
IWU was seeded 6th in 2010, won the Region, and won the World Series! This year they were seeded 6th, beat everyone they faced except BSC, but, alas, lightning didn't strike twice.
As a Central Region guy (and with a soft spot for the SLIAC): GO GORLOKS! If I'm not mistaken, you are in the driver's seat for the first trip ever of a SLIAC team to the WS.
Appreciate your "soft spot" for the SLIAC. If Webster wins one tomorrow I think you are correct that it would be the first time a SLIAC team made it to the WS. Webster women's hoops made it to the Sweet 16 in 2002. Webster baseball made it to a regional championship game in 2008, losing to Linfield, and has won a game or two in two other regionals. Webster softball made it to a regional championship game in 2009, losing to Gustavus Adolphus. I think a Fontbonne women's basketball team advanced several rounds in the NCAAs around '99 or 2000. Otherwise, I think the conference has had few, if any, other wins in NCAA tournament action in any sport. But, there are probably better SLIAC historians out there than me.
A real pitchers' duel in Millington - Webster finally breaks through (single, stolen base, single) for a run in the bottom of the 6th.
After 6, Webster 1, BSC 0.
Webster's goin' dancing! 3-2 is the final.
Four very well played games for Webster. Congratulations Gorloks!