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Title: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Bishopleftiesdad on July 16, 2012, 12:20:59 PM
Not sure if this is posted elsewhere, If it is I apologize. I did a search and did not find it.

Cal Tech being penalized by NCAA for violations.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20120713,0,1404785.story
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Gray Fox on July 16, 2012, 12:35:18 PM
It was posted on the SCIAC basketball board along with the official NCAA posting.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: KnightSlappy on July 16, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on July 16, 2012, 12:20:59 PM
Not sure if this is posted elsewhere, If it is I apologize. I did a search and did not find it.

Cal Tech being penalized by NCAA for violations.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20120713,0,1404785.story

Front page of D3hoops.com/D3sports.com

The big question: Caltech finally got off the schneid in 2010-11 and won a SCIAC game in basketball (the first time in ???). Is this one of the wins that will be vacated?
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Gray Fox on July 16, 2012, 12:38:31 PM
That win counts.  It was in the Times article.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: CrashDavisD3 on July 16, 2012, 04:29:04 PM
 :'( Say it ain't so.....Even Cal Tech violates NCAA rules...I though Cal Tech was penalized enough with NASA having budget cuts and not needing as many Cal Tech grads....
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Pat Coleman on July 16, 2012, 05:47:18 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on July 16, 2012, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: Bishopleftiesdad on July 16, 2012, 12:20:59 PM
Not sure if this is posted elsewhere, If it is I apologize. I did a search and did not find it.

Cal Tech being penalized by NCAA for violations.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-newswire-20120713,0,1404785.story

Front page of D3hoops.com/D3sports.com

The big question: Caltech finally got off the schneid in 2010-11 and won a SCIAC game in basketball (the first time in ???). Is this one of the wins that will be vacated?

It's in our story -- the win stands. Caltech wouldn't commit to a full accounting of games when I contacted them but that win is still in the books.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Ralph Turner on July 16, 2012, 05:51:18 PM
As I interpret the infraction, it looks like an infraction of pharisaic proportions that can probably be addressed inside the administration.

I am sorry for the appearance that this gives Cal Tech to the causal observer who is not familiar with the nature of the law as applied by the NCAA.


Kinda like...
If you swear by the altar, you are not bound by the oath.  But, if you swear by the gift on the altar, your oath is binding.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: frank uible on July 17, 2012, 05:54:59 AM
Them geeks are caught once again poisoning society with their win-at-all-costs attitude..
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Gray Fox on July 17, 2012, 08:47:28 AM
Quote from: frank uible on July 17, 2012, 05:54:59 AM
Them geeks are caught once again poisoning society with their win-at-all-costs attitude..
They'll be forced to go back to rigging card stunts and the scoreboard at the Rose Bowl Game.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: luvdahoops on February 20, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
what happened?  did they allow faculty members sheldon cooper, leonard hoffstetter, howard wolowitz (who has a master's degree from the massachusetts institute of technology) and rajesh koutherpolley play in some games?   :P
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Gregory Sager on February 20, 2013, 06:39:17 PM
Those guys would only play sports via Wii.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Steve Wiitala on February 20, 2013, 08:32:03 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on July 16, 2012, 05:51:18 PM
As I interpret the infraction, it looks like an infraction of pharisaic proportions that can probably be addressed inside the administration.

I am sorry for the appearance that this gives Cal Tech to the causal observer who is not familiar with the nature of the law as applied by the NCAA.


Kinda like...
If you swear by the altar, you are not bound by the oath.  But, if you swear by the gift on the altar, your oath is binding.

It looks like a violation that occurred not because of athletic issues, but rather because of the way students register for classes.  The NCAA doesn't like non-standard systems. 
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: mattvsmith on February 20, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
I worked for a while at a university at which athletes were allowed priority registering for classes sob that they wouldn't get closed out of the morning and early afternoon sections. They needed to end their academic day by 3 pm in order to make it to practice.
Title: Re: Cal Tech Penalized.
Post by: Steve Wiitala on February 22, 2013, 12:13:14 AM
Quote from: Rt Rev J.H. Hobart on February 20, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
I worked for a while at a university at which athletes were allowed priority registering for classes sob that they wouldn't get closed out of the morning and early afternoon sections. They needed to end their academic day by 3 pm in order to make it to practice.

That was a very common practice at lots of schools - either that or slots were reserved for them through a "blocking" system.