Who is hosting?
Also, is it possible for a system to be put into place for a regional ranking to be automatically calculated on a daily basis? With today's technology, one would think this would be possible, yes/no?
With CNU getting clipped in the USA-South, it's going to make the South Regional At-Large bid(s) very competitive.
Will the South be an 6 or 8 team regional?
Quote from: D-BAT on April 14, 2013, 04:09:40 PM
Who is hosting?
Also, is it possible for a system to be put into place for a regional ranking to be automatically calculated on a daily basis? With today's technology, one would think this would be possible, yes/no?
With CNU getting clipped in the USA-South, it's going to make the South Regional At-Large bid(s) very competitive.
Will the South be an 6 or 8 team regional?
USA Stadium in Millington is hosting again.
In-region records and SOS (http://d3baseball.com/seasons/2013/schedule?tmpl=sos-template) are updated daily on the front page. Decent tools and indicators, but daily rankings are not available.
We won't know whether Millington will host six or eight teams until selection day.
Keep in mind that South Region teams are not bound to the Millington Regional. It could very well be that all South teams in the NCAA tournament wind up in Tennessee, but teams can be shipped to any regional that's within a 500-mile radius.
Quote from: Ricky Nelson on April 14, 2013, 04:32:19 PM
Keep in mind that South Region teams are not bound to the Millington Regional. It could very well be that all South teams in the NCAA tournament wind up in Tennessee, but teams can be shipped to any regional that's within a 500-mile radius.
They can be shipped further than that too if the NCAA wants to pay the bill.
is there a list of regional sites somewhere? with millington 622 miles from fayetteville, i suspect the monarchs will be heading somewhere other than usa stadium...are the other sites pre-determined?
Quote from: narch on April 15, 2013, 12:47:52 PM
is there a list of regional sites somewhere? with millington 622 miles from fayetteville, i suspect the monarchs will be heading somewhere other than usa stadium...are the other sites pre-determined?
I don't think any site is within 500 miles of Methodist. Methodist could go literally anywhere.
is there a list of the regional sites somewhere?
Harwich, MA; Auburn, NY; Denver, PA; Millington, TN; Augustana, IL; Whitewater, WI; Terre Haute, IN; and Austin, TX.
Fayetteville to Denver is 455 miles per Google...that looks like the spot for the Monarchs to me
Had to do a double-take when I looked to see Fayetteville to Denver at 455 miles (hahahahaha).
Congrats Methodist on its USA South title
2013 Playoff Central on the front page has all of the regional hosts and will track bids as they happen.
I guess the field where they're hosting is actually in Moosic, PA. And I get 547 miles from Fayetteville to there.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Fayetteville+NC&daddr=Moosic,+PA&hl=en&sll=41.353413,-75.738248&sspn=0.076928,0.137329&geocode=FXjcFgIdamlM-ykjSpJCTxOriTGbO3YSdZ6row%3BFcUAdwIdeFN8-ymJHuPTjN_EiTEgP2bNrVQcBw&t=h&gl=us&mra=ls&z=6
Sorted by Reg'l Win% as April 14th 11:30pm
Reg'l Win% Reg'l Reg'l Win%
Rank SOS Rank / South Teams: Record Win% OWP (Rank) OOWP NCAA-SOS
1 207 Bridgewater 23-4 0.852 .4943 (223) 0.524 0.504
2 60 Salisbury 19-4 0.826 .5488 (97) 0.552 0.550
3 164 Millsaps 23-6 0.793 .5147 (174) 0.524 0.518
4 56 Huntingdon 22-8 0.733 .5596 (75) 0.534 0.551
5 222 Shenandoah 21-8 0.724 .4851 (241) 0.530 0.500
6 192 CNU 27-11-1 0.705 .5085 (193) 0.508 0.508
7 155 Birminghamn 23-10 0.697 .5246 (147) 0.514 0.521
8 87 Frostburg 18-10 0.643 .5381 (117) 0.544 0.540
9 174 RMC 16-10-1 0.611 .5106 (188) 0.528 0.516
10 256 Averett 23-15 0.605 .4787 (255) 0.507 0.488
11 183 Covenant 9-6 0.600 .5085 (194) 0.519 0.512
12 224 Wash& Lee 11-8 0.579 .4940 (224) 0.510 0.499
13 40 Wesley 16-12 0.571 .5740 (47) 0.536 0.561
14 93 Emory 15-12 0.556 .5470 (101) 0.521 0.538
15 206 LaGrange 20-17 0.541 .5047 (203) 0.503 0.504
16 21 MWU 17-15 0.531 .6006 (24) 0.533 0.578
17 70 York (Pa.) 16-15 0.516 .5494 (94) 0.544 0.547
18 184 Piedmont 19-18 0.514 .5167 (166) 0.502 0.512
19 187 Methodist 19-18 0.514 .5139 (179) 0.504 0.511
20 230 NCW 19-18 0.514 .4926 (226) 0.506 0.497
21 107 HSC 14-14-1 0.500 .5456 (103) 0.509 0.533
22 182 Lynchburg 13-13-1 0.500 .5135 (180) 0.512 0.513
23 234 Gallaudet 12-13 0.480 .4827 (246) 0.521 0.495
24 228 Berry 14-17 0.452 .4866 (235) 0.520 0.498
25 284 Rhodes 11-14 0.440 .4636 (293) 0.511 0.479
26 208 Guilford 11-15 0.423 .5014 (206) 0.509 0.504
27 238 Maryville 14-21 0.400 .4898 (231) 0.504 0.494
28 217 Roanoke 11-18 0.379 .4980 (216) 0.508 0.501
29 34 St. Mary's 11-19 0.367 .5771 (40) 0.542 0.565
30 240 Centre 11-19 0.367 .4962 (220) 0.490 0.494
31 204 Ferrum 11-20 0.355 .5060 (199) 0.502 0.505
32 213 Greensboro 12-23 0.343 .5023 (204) 0.503 0.502
33 115 VWC 8-16 0.333 .5402 (113) 0.514 0.531
34 209 Oglethorpe 9-21 0.300 .5068 (197) 0.497 0.504
35 193 Emory&Henry 8-19 0.296 .5124 (184) 0.499 0.508
36 170 EMU 7-18 0.280 .5180 (161) 0.513 0.516
37 313 Sewanee 6-17 0.261 .4478 (312) 0.496 0.464
38 366 Rust 0-7 0.000 .2888 (366) 0.502 0.360
39 371 Southern 0-0 0.000 .0000 (371) 0.000 0.000
Quote from: Spence on April 15, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
I guess the field where they're hosting is actually in Moosic, PA. And I get 547 miles from Fayetteville to there.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Fayetteville+NC&daddr=Moosic,+PA&hl=en&sll=41.353413,-75.738248&sspn=0.076928,0.137329&geocode=FXjcFgIdamlM-ykjSpJCTxOriTGbO3YSdZ6row%3BFcUAdwIdeFN8-ymJHuPTjN_EiTEgP2bNrVQcBw&t=h&gl=us&mra=ls&z=6
i saw that same thing last night...and i now agree with your earlier post that mu can be sent anywhere :)
Quote from: narch on April 16, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Spence on April 15, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
I guess the field where they're hosting is actually in Moosic, PA. And I get 547 miles from Fayetteville to there.
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Fayetteville+NC&daddr=Moosic,+PA&hl=en&sll=41.353413,-75.738248&sspn=0.076928,0.137329&geocode=FXjcFgIdamlM-ykjSpJCTxOriTGbO3YSdZ6row%3BFcUAdwIdeFN8-ymJHuPTjN_EiTEgP2bNrVQcBw&t=h&gl=us&mra=ls&z=6
i saw that same thing last night...and i now agree with your earlier post that mu can be sent anywhere :)
I suspect predicting the regionals will be completely a fool's errand this year. There are 4 regionals in relatively close proximity (IL, southern WI, western IN, western TN).
The good news for Methodist is they'll be on a plane. :) Always thought it would be cool to be able to fly to a regional...of course most of the time I could ride a bike to it.
South Region Rankings:
1 Salisbury 23-4 27-6
2 Huntingdon 26-8 27-9
3 Millsaps 25-7 28-10
4 Bridgewater (Va.) 27-4 28-9
5 Christopher Newport 27-12-1 29-12-1
6 Shenandoah 24-8 27-10
May 2nd:
The first set of NCAA regional rankings. Remember the first record is the in-region record, followed by overall.
Through games of April 28.
South Region
1 Huntingdon 28-8 30-9
2 Salisbury 25-4 30-7
3 Millsaps 29-8 32-11
4 Bridgewater (Va.) 30-4 31-9
5 Christopher Newport 27-12-1 29-12-1
6 Frostburg State 21-12 23-14
Looking at the regional and national rankings. I am not sure which is more messed up. Huntington is listed as #1 in the south but is not even ranked in the national poll. Also CNU which is ranked also in the south and has been ranked all year in the national polls. Just dropped out of the national poll w/o having played any games in the last two weeks. How do you not get ranked nationally and be the top seed in a particular region? Seems somewhat off to me. Also how do you not lose or play any games and drop out of polls? Shows you what the people around the nation think of the south.
Quote from: rolln2 on May 07, 2013, 10:18:09 AMHow do you not get ranked nationally and be the top seed in a particular region?
regional rankings are based largely and primarily on results and numbers - SoS, OWP, OOWP, regional winning % - and in this way are more objective than national polls - that doesn't mean that one is right and the other is wrong, necessarily, but they are different and have different purposes - a top 25 poll is meant to identify the top 25 teams in the nation per the pollster(s) - the regional rankings are meant to select the ncaa tournament field
there is a great site for those interested in learning more about the playoffs...http://www.d3baseball.com/notables/2013/05/Playoff_Central :)
Quote from: rolln2 on May 07, 2013, 10:18:09 AMAlso how do you not lose or play any games and drop out of polls? Shows you what the people around the nation think of the south.
or it shows you that rowan (32-12) won 4 straight games after the last poll, including one against kean (32-10, previously ranked #5 in the country) richard stockton (23-18), william patterson (27-13) and ramapo (28-14-1)...those are quality wins
Quote from: D-BAT on May 02, 2013, 11:26:24 PM
May 2nd:
The first set of NCAA regional rankings. Remember the first record is the in-region record, followed by overall.
Through games of April 28.
South Region
1 Huntingdon 28-8 30-9
2 Salisbury 25-4 30-7
3 Millsaps 29-8 32-11
4 Bridgewater (Va.) 30-4 31-9
5 Christopher Newport 27-12-1 29-12-1
6 Frostburg State 21-12 23-14
Now look at the numbers as of May 8th ... I can technically see why Frostburg is ranked and SU is not as Frostburg is higher in OWP, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS ...
BUT don't understand how CNU is ranked and SU is not as SU is higher in Reg'l Win%, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS vs. CNU.
(1) 51 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5603 (46) .5262 0.549 |
(2) 79 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (109) .5438 0.536 |
(3) 154 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5183 (150) .5166 0.518 |
(4) 142 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (166) .5299 0.520 |
(5) 192 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (184) .5093 0.509 |
(6) 108 Frostburg 23-13 .639 .5261 (126) .5334 0.529 |
(?) 182 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5046(204) .5257 0.512 |
Quote from: D-BAT on May 08, 2013, 09:12:06 PMNow look at the numbers as of May 8th ... I can technically see why Frostburg is ranked and SU is not as Frostburg is higher in OWP, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS ...
BUT don't understand how CNU is ranked and SU is not as SU is higher in Reg'l Win%, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS vs. CNU.
(1) 51 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5603 (46) .5262 0.549 |
(2) 79 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (109) .5438 0.536 |
(3) 154 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5183 (150) .5166 0.518 |
(4) 142 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (166) .5299 0.520 |
(5) 192 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (184) .5093 0.509 |
(6) 108 Frostburg 23-13 .639 .5261 (126) .5334 0.529 |
(?) 182 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5046(204) .5257 0.512 |
i can't say that i disagree with you...in fact, i think you could put su ahead of cnu and frostburg and i wouldn't argue, personally - it wouldn't matter though, because none of them are going to get a pool c bid :)
Quote from: narch on May 09, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: D-BAT on May 08, 2013, 09:12:06 PMNow look at the numbers as of May 8th ... I can technically see why Frostburg is ranked and SU is not as Frostburg is higher in OWP, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS ...
BUT don't understand how CNU is ranked and SU is not as SU is higher in Reg'l Win%, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS vs. CNU.
(1) 51 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5603 (46) .5262 0.549 |
(2) 79 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (109) .5438 0.536 |
(3) 154 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5183 (150) .5166 0.518 |
(4) 142 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (166) .5299 0.520 |
(5) 192 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (184) .5093 0.509 |
(6) 108 Frostburg 23-13 .639 .5261 (126) .5334 0.529 |
(?) 182 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5046(204) .5257 0.512 |
i can't say that i disagree with you...in fact, i think you could put su ahead of cnu and frostburg and i wouldn't argue, personally - it wouldn't matter though, because none of them are going to get a pool c bid :)
I think the reason the south committee has CNU ranked ahead of Shenandoah is because CNU finished first in the USAS. Which traditionally is probably the best conference in the south. I think they are giving credit for a whole body of work for a CNU team that plays 3 game series every weekend for a total of 24 conference games. Shenandoah on the other hand finished 3rd in the ODAC 8 games out of first place, and went 0-2 in the ODAC tourney. I know that the comparison is not one of the statistical criteria, but it does make some baseball sense.
Let me correct my last post as Shenandoah finished 11-7 or 6 games out of first place not 8 games out.
Quote from: rolln2 on May 09, 2013, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: narch on May 09, 2013, 01:27:28 PM
Quote from: D-BAT on May 08, 2013, 09:12:06 PMNow look at the numbers as of May 8th ... I can technically see why Frostburg is ranked and SU is not as Frostburg is higher in OWP, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS ...
BUT don't understand how CNU is ranked and SU is not as SU is higher in Reg'l Win%, OOWP Win% and NCAA-SOS vs. CNU.
(1) 51 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5603 (46) .5262 0.549 |
(2) 79 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (109) .5438 0.536 |
(3) 154 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5183 (150) .5166 0.518 |
(4) 142 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (166) .5299 0.520 |
(5) 192 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (184) .5093 0.509 |
(6) 108 Frostburg 23-13 .639 .5261 (126) .5334 0.529 |
(?) 182 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5046(204) .5257 0.512 |
i can't say that i disagree with you...in fact, i think you could put su ahead of cnu and frostburg and i wouldn't argue, personally - it wouldn't matter though, because none of them are going to get a pool c bid :)
I think the reason the south committee has CNU ranked ahead of Shenandoah is because CNU finished first in the USAS. Which traditionally is probably the best conference in the south. I think they are giving credit for a whole body of work for a CNU team that plays 3 game series every weekend for a total of 24 conference games. Shenandoah on the other hand finished 3rd in the ODAC 8 games out of first place, and went 0-2 in the ODAC tourney. I know that the comparison is not one of the statistical criteria, but it does make some baseball sense.
Understand and agree, but don't understand how Frostburg is ranked.
I am with D-Bat I have no idea how Frostburg ever go ranked period! But from what I hear CNU doesn't think they are in as they are not practicing so...
New regional polls are out. Randolph-Macon is the 6th ranked team now. I heard that CNU is practicing.
Well I hope CNU gets in as it gives me another South team to root for! So now where does everyone feel they go? Last time RMC made it they were sent up north think that Methodist will get that treatment this year? Of the ranked teams in the south which team do you think it is that everyone does not want to draw for game one? My vote is CNU if they get in with the pitching. Salisbury is a 1A as they play very solid baseball and have good pitching up top. But that is my opinion.
The third set of NCAA regional rankings. Remember the first record is the in-region record, followed by overall.
This is the final set of regional rankings the NCAA issues to the public. There is one more ranking, commonly referred to as the "secret ranking," which is created as part of the selection process.
Through games of May 5.
South Region
1 Huntingdon 28-8 30-9
2 Salisbury 25-4 30-7
3 Millsaps 29-8 32-11
4 Bridgewater 32-6 33-11
5 CNU 27-12-1 29-12-1
6 RMC 23-14-1 23-17-1
Numbers as of May 9th at 9:45pm:
(1) 51 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5601 (46) .5265 0.549 |
(2) 79 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (108) .5439 0.536 |
(3) 155 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5186 (150) .5168 0.518 |
(4) 143 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (167) .5300 0.520 |
(5) 196 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (183) .5094 0.509 |
(6) 58 RMC 23-14-1 .618 .5512 (59) .5303 0.544 |
(?) 183 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5050 (206) .5260 0.512 |
This is what I have for in region common opponents. Someone correct me if this isn't right.
H-SC, Eastern Mennonite, R-M, Va Wesleyan, Bridgewater, Mary Wash, Gallaudet
CNU was 1-0-1 vs. H-SC, 0-2 against R-M, 1-1 against Bridgewater and beat the other 3.
Shen was 1-1 vs. H-SC, 1-1 vs. R-M, and 0-3 vs. Bridgewater and beat the other 3.
Maybe the difference is CNU's win over Bridgewater vs. Shenandoah losing in 3 tries against them...or CNU doing better in multiple games against 2 out of 3 common opponents, or CNU's 2-3-1 record in these games vs. 2-5.
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 10, 2013, 01:29:57 PM
This is what I have for in region common opponents. Someone correct me if this isn't right.
H-SC, Eastern Mennonite, R-M, Va Wesleyan, Bridgewater, Mary Wash, Gallaudet
CNU was 1-0-1 vs. H-SC, 0-2 against R-M, 1-1 against Bridgewater and beat the other 3.
Shen was 1-1 vs. H-SC, 1-1 vs. R-M, and 0-3 vs. Bridgewater and beat the other 3.
Maybe the difference is CNU's win over Bridgewater vs. Shenandoah losing in 3 tries against them...or CNU doing better in multiple games against 2 out of 3 common opponents, or CNU's 2-3-1 record in these games vs. 2-5.
one of the criteria is record vs. regionally ranked opponents, so you might be on to something there...cnu was 1-3 vs. regionally ranked (among this group) while su was 1-4...not a big difference, but it is one fewer loss :)
don't know if cnu played/beat any other regionally ranked, but if they did, that could have an impact
Please forgive a novice question. Since the Pool B and C choices are made tomorrow (5/12) and not announced until Monday, will the respective teams that are chosen know tomorrow whether or not they are going? The Memphis regional usually starts on Wednesday. That doesn't leave a great deal of time for teams to make travel and lodging arrangements if they don't find out until 10 AM Monday. Thanks!
Numbers as of May 12th at 2:45am EST:
(1) 56 Huntingdon 28-8 .778 .5592 (51) .5273 0.549 |
(2) 85 Salisbury 25-4 .862 .5320 (114) .5436 0.536 |
(3) 163 Millsaps 31-8 .795 .5182 (157) .5173 0.518 |
(4) 149 Bridgewater 32-6 .842 .5150 (170) .5298 0.520 |
(5) 201 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (196) .5095 0.509 |
(6) 63 RMC 23-14-1 .618 .5512 (63) .5302 0.544 |
(?) 193 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5041 (217) .5264 0.512 |
Out of these 7 teams SU is:- 5th in Reg'l Winning Percentage
- 7th in OWP
- 5th in OOWP Winning Percentage
- 6th in NCAA-SOS
AND
Out of these 7 teams CNU is:- 6th in Reg'l Winning Percentage
- 6th in OWP
- 7th in OOWP Winning Percentage
- 7th in NCAA-SOS
D-Bat - Understand the numbers but the only thing the top 5 teams have in common is they all won their regular season championships so that must carry enough weight. But I have never understood how the NCAA comes up with these numbers. The history of the the pool C bids for the south has been if the reg season shamps win their conference tourneys then maybe the second place team gets in otherwise really no shot as I do not think that many people outside the south think much of the teams here. No really fair but the way it has always been.
It's all going to depend on how many teams each regional gets, as well as who gets shipped out to a different regional tournament. My two cents is that Bridgewater and CNU both get in, while SU does not. My 'prediction' is based partially on all of those fancy numbers we toss around, as well as what I'd like to call common sense/baseball sense.
Part of the reason SU has a higher Reg'l Winning % than CNU is that they played 6 less in-region games than CNU did. Now, who knows what would have happened in those 6 games, as they may have won all 6, but it's worth mentioning. Also, what may be considered the top teams on SU's schedule this year were teams they lost to (0-3 vs Bridgewater, 1-1 vs R-MC, 1-1 vs H-SC). Against those same teams, CNU went 2-2-1. As we previously mentioned, CNU won the USAS Reg. Season Title, which generally speaking carries no weight other than in the common/baseball sense of perspective.
In all honesty, you can make a valid case for CNU/SU/BC (I assume BC is in for sure though) to get in or not to get in, and a lot of our debates are based on slight bias (I'll be the first to admit I obviously favor CNU). The main reason I'd like to see CNU get a shot in Regionals is because I truly think they have the staff to win it. The Captains offense was inconsistent for the majority of the year, but when that offense does hit, paired with the pitching staff of CNU, I honestly think they are one of the Top 5-10 teams in the country.
Final numbers at 11pm on May 12th:
(5) 201 CNU 27-12-1 .688 .5091 (197) .5097 0.509 |
(?) 193 Shenandoah 24-10 .706 .5046 (215) .5269 0.512 |
QuoteD3Baseball's projected regionals and seedings:
New England Regional at Whitehouse Field; Harwich, Mass.
1. Southern Maine
2. Wheaton, Mass.
3. Endicott
4. Western New England
5. Amherst
6. St. Joseph's, Maine
7. Salem State
8. Daniel Webster
New York Regional at Falcon Park; Auburn, N.Y.
1. Ithaca
2. Cortland State
3. St. John Fisher
4. Farmingdale State
5. Ramapo
6. Eastern Connecticut
7. RPI
8. Moravian
Mid-Atlantic Regional at PNC Field; Moosic, Pa.
1. Kean
2. Keystone
3. Misericordia
4. Rowan
5. Alvernia
6. Johns Hopkins
7. Neumann
8. Bridgewater, Va.
Mideast Regional at Art Nehf Field; Terre Haute, Ind.
1. Marietta
2. Manchester
3. Case Western Reserve
4. Wooster
5. Illinois Wesleyan
6. Washington and Jefferson
7. Mount Union
8. Penn State-Behrend
South Regional at USA Stadium in Millington, Tenn.
1. Huntingdon
2. Salisbury
3. Millsaps
4. Washington U.
5. Franklin and Marshall
6. Penn State-Harrisburg
Central Regional Swanson Stadium/Brunner Field; Moline, Ill.
1. Webster
2. Augustana
3. Wartburg
4. Benedictine
5. St. Scholastica
6. Randolph-Macon
Midwest Regional at Prucha Field in Whitewater, Wis.
1. St. Thomas
2. UW-Whitewater
3. UW-Stevens Point
4. Concordia-Chicago
5. Adrian
6. Ripon
West Regional at Tornado Field; Austin, Texas
1. Linfield
2. Cal Lutheran
3. Texas-Tyler
4. Pomona-Pitzer
5. Trinity (Texas)
6. Methodist
With the Mideast being played in Indiana and the South being played in Tennessee, we are stuck having to fly teams westward. If you see the NCAA selecting someone such as Texas Lutheran or Aurora, it's because they want to limit flights. The way we limit flights is by sending two teams on the same flight to the South Regional and the two SCIAC teams on the same flight to Austin. (But we flop Trinity and Pomona-Pitzer to keep the SCIAC teams from meeting in the first round.)
Now, this tournament features teams from a mixture of different regions in a lot of these regionals, which is how the committee has said it wants to do things this year. There's certainly an old-school way to do it as well. What there isn't is a way to do it with fewer than eight teams flying, not with these selections.
And teams are supposed to be selected without geography being part of the consideration.
Stay tuned later tonight for the NCAA's official selections.
Well, the field is set. Best of luck to Methodist and R-MC in the South Regional!
Is there a regional site up to follow games?
Quote from: LTHSdad on May 13, 2013, 11:49:54 AM
Is there a regional site up to follow games?
http://www.d3baseball.com/playoffs/2013/daily-tournament-schedule
| SOS rank | Team | Reg W% | OWP(rank) | OOWP | NCAA |
| 10 | Wash U | .686 | .5889 (11) | .5406 | .573 |
| 37 | ECSU | .709 | .5630 (63) | .544 | .557 |
| 48 | William Patterson | .667 | .5517 (63) | .5515 | .552 |
| 70 | SJF | .656 | .5497 (67) | .5259 | .542 |
| 165 | Aurora | .688 | .5146 (175) | .5233 | .518 |
| 192 | Shenandoah | .706 | .5046 (215) | .5269 | .512 |
| 194 | Thomas More | .667 | .5103 (188) | .5127 | .511 |
| 201 | CNU | .688 | .5091 (197) | .5097 | .509 |
| 271 | Texas Lutheran | .714 | .4821 (276) | .509 | .491 |
the bold teams were selected...and shouldn't have been, in my opinion...the others were not
i post this table primarily to show that neither cnu or su were deserving, when viewed on a national level...in my mind wash u, ecsu, st. john fisher and william patterson were ALL more deserving than either su or cnu
Quote from: narch on May 13, 2013, 01:20:43 PM
| SOS rank | Team | Reg W% | OWP(rank) | OOWP | NCAA |
| 10 | Wash U | .686 | .5889 (11) | .5406 | .573 |
| 37 | ECSU | .709 | .5630 (63) | .544 | .557 |
| 48 | William Patterson | .667 | .5517 (63) | .5515 | .552 |
| 70 | SJF | .656 | .5497 (67) | .5259 | .542 |
| 165 | Aurora | .688 | .5146 (175) | .5233 | .518 |
| 192 | Shenandoah | .706 | .5046 (215) | .5269 | .512 |
| 194 | Thomas More | .667 | .5103 (188) | .5127 | .511 |
| 201 | CNU | .688 | .5091 (197) | .5097 | .509 |
| 271 | Texas Lutheran | .714 | .4821 (276) | .509 | .491 |
Has anyone read the 2013 NCAA published rules on picking Pool B/C? Is everyone assuming 2013 is the same as 2012?
Guess what I dont think the NCAA published the 2013 criteria for Pool B/C?
I guess SOS is no longer a big factor....
I have an early version of the 2013 Manual. The selection criteria were the same this season.
So Methodist plays Huntington tomorrow at 1PM. Notes for the game:
1. Tendency would be to pitch Michael Inman because he's pitched really well lately (Emory, Maryville, Greensboro). Problem I have is he got lit up vs Huntington already. My pick would be to go with the smaller RHP Daniel Royer. He tends to miss bats more than Inman and held up very well in 2 innings vs Huntington back in March.
2. Speed will be key here - Coach Austin has to be aggressive and give the green light to Kirby, Molosky, Power and Thigpen on the bases.
3. Must keep Huntington hitters in the ballpark. Both games in March were not competitive.
LTHSdad - good analysis, but i'd still pitch inman...over their last 5 true starts (discounting mid-week 2 inning stints), inman has been MUCH better than royer and he's MUCH more consistent - royer might throw a gem, or he might get blown up
over that span:
inman has averaged almost 8 ip (he's gone 7 or more 4 times with one 6.2 inning game), giving up 1.11 hits/inning and has a 3.18 era with 12 k's in 39.67 ip
royer has averaged just 4.2 ip (he's gone 7+ just once in that period), giving up 1.11 hits/inning and has a 6.18 era with 16 k's in 23.1 ip
4 of the 5 opponents were the same between the two (inman got gc, while royer got pc), but the disparity is even greater when you pull out the non-common opponents
i feel confident that inman can pitch well in game one, but huntingdon is a tough, tough team...if mu pitches as a team this week the way they did in the conference tournament, they've got a chance to win this regional, but it is a TALL task to pitch that way against this competition
you pitch your #1 in the first game of a regional, if you ask me...
I can't see a bottom seed not throwing an guy with 100 innings pitched against the top seed in the first round.
Narch,
I do see your point. Being a coach myself, I tend to lean towards match ups more. The only sample we got from Inman vs Hutington was not good, so to me since they already saw him and beat him up good, I would tend to go with someone who they have not seen...BUT I can also see your point because when he pitched in March he was very inconsistent and lately seem to have found a formula that works for him to get guys out. Nevertheless, I wish the best of luck to MU.
power sure looked safe at the plate to me...
Inman gets out of bases loaded trouble in the bottom of 4th but has been masterful so far. I was completely wrong and he has done very well. Given up only 3 hits to Hutington thru 4 innings. Keep it going MU. At the top of the 5th, MU leads 1-0.
mu stays in the winners bracket with a 4-3 win in 10 innings - inman and ayers pitched really well...inman was a horse and seemed to pitch out of tight spots all day, and ayers had two HUGE strikeouts in the 9th - thigpen gets the game winning rbi against the huntingdon closer, who had a .59 era and 39 k's in 30 innings coming into the game - great win for the boys!
No idea why they didn't have Lawler start the 10th...1st and 3rd no outs is a lot to ask of anyone, even a guy with those numbers.
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
No idea why they didn't have Lawler start the 10th...1st and 3rd no outs is a lot to ask of anyone, even a guy with those numbers.
he looked filthy, but thigpen was a little better than him yesterday :)
Tough fought out win by Methodist yesterday over Hutington. I take my hat off to Inman...he held his ground yesterday.
Take on Bridgewater team today that was flat yesterday. I'm surprised with that offense they only managed 5 hits off Millsaps. I'm expecting MU to throw SO RHP Daniel Royer today.
Quote from: narch on May 16, 2013, 08:15:50 AM
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 15, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
No idea why they didn't have Lawler start the 10th...1st and 3rd no outs is a lot to ask of anyone, even a guy with those numbers.
he looked filthy, but thigpen was a little better than him yesterday :)
There were several odd decisions re: relief pitching yesterday. 3 that come to mind quickly -- two in the West and this one.
Quote from: LTHSdad on May 16, 2013, 08:45:09 AM
Take on Bridgewater team today that was flat yesterday. I'm surprised with that offense they only managed 5 hits off Millsaps. I'm expecting MU to throw SO RHP Daniel Royer today.
Bridgewater is a very dangerous team. They did not play their best last evening but that does not diminish the gem that Edwards from Millsaps threw at them.
Quote from: forheavendial4999 on May 16, 2013, 10:24:42 AM
There were several odd decisions re: relief pitching yesterday. 3 that come to mind quickly -- two in the West and this one.
to be honest, fincher looked pretty good in the 7th (gave up a bunt single and groundout with a runner in scoring position to get out of the 7th), 8th (1-2-3 inning to the heart of the mu order) and 9th (1-2-3 inning)...i can see where a coach might think "this kid is looking good...let me save my bullpen ace for another day" - it's easy to second guess after the fact, but fincher is clearly hc's second best bullpen option, and he looks to be the long guy with 48 ip in 20 appearances - watching the game, i didn't question them sending him out for the 10th, but i actually wondered if they might throw a lefthander (instead of lawler) against thigpen...when i heard/saw lawler's numbers, i understood why they didn't throw a lefty
having watched that game, i don't think the decision to start the 10th with fincher was a horrible decision - he had thrown very few pitches over his 2.1 ip and was very effective - being the home team and having a stud like lawler at your disposal does make it open for discussion, though
Well in truth I probably would have brought on in the 9th. But at the absolute latest, it would have been to pitch to Kirby. If you leave Fincher in to pitch to Kirby, you should leave him in to face Thigpen too.
Tough 10-7 loss for mu today...thigpen got the start and had trouble in the 3rd...had bases loaded with one out and a probable double play ball went off his leg and away from the ss and two runs scored...bc went on to score 4 more in the frame to take a 7-1 lead - the monarchs battled back and got it to 7-6 before bc stretched it to 10-6 - down 10-7 in the bottom of the ninth, molosky got caught in a rundown for out #2...instead of runners on first and second and one out and thigpen at the plate, there were two outs w runner in second - thigpen walked and younger hit a laser that was caught on the left field line...couldn't see the catch, but announcers made it sound pretty spectacular - hats off to both teams for an exciting game
Congrats to Coach Page and the Millsaps Majors, after all those years battling Trinity in the SCAC, to make it to Appleton from the SAA is pretty special!
The question is will Coach Page show off his juggling skills in Appleton ;D
I can't think of a Coach that has done more for more terrific young men than Coach Page. Give em h3ll!
I've got his juggling on video (somewhere)!
RIP historymajor, my good friend.
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