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Title: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 03, 2013, 01:56:15 PM
After a disappointing end to last season for both MIAC schools in the NCAA tournament I am hoping to see the MIAC place two teams in the tournament again this season.  The MIAC is going to be very tight between the top 6 teams (Car, UST, GAC, STO, SJU, and Aug).  The coaches poll below shows CarlEton as the pre-season favorite and it is hard to argue with that.  They are returning Bartholomay and McGarrity (two of the top 10 players in the conference) which should make them a top 4 team.  Rapidsarda (UST), Rosenthal (STO), and Coborn (SJU) will all be relied upon heavily to produce for their teams if they are going to be successful.  Augsburg will likely need to get their goals from a variety of sources and will also need to stay very organized defensively if they are to compete for a MIAC playoff position.  GAC is returning several key players from last years team so I expect them to make the MIAC playoffs.  Zach Brown is a threat uptop while Charlie Adams and David Lilly will be a top 2 center midfield pairing in the conference.  GAC loses Lucas Thompson on the backline which is a big loss.  They have a couple of returning players (Schmith and Schwab) that should be able to step up nicely, as well as a transfer from Drake (Ryan Schultz). Additionally they are returning Ylonen in net which bodes well for their backline.   


Coaches Poll:

1. CarlEton
2. St. Thomas
3. GAC
4. St. Olaf
5. SJU
6. Augsburg
7. MAC
8. SMU
9. Concordia
10. Hamline
11. Bethel



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 04, 2013, 11:00:21 AM
Todays big games involving MIAC teams:

GAC at St. Scholastica

and

UW-Superior at Augsburg

I expect both games to be very tight.

Predictions:

GAC 2 CSC 1
UWS 1 Aug 0
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 04, 2013, 11:18:37 AM
GAC 2-0 CSS
UWS 1 - AUG 1

C'mon You Gusties!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: cowlingluver on September 04, 2013, 11:31:09 PM
if ( $blnIfHellDoesntBreakLoose ) {
  $aryFinalFour = array(

    $strFirstPlace = "Carleton"; // because it is obvious and there frankly isn't another team that can compete.
    $strSecondPlace = "St Thomas"; // because they usually cheat a couple times and squeak out wins
    $strThirdPlace = "St Olaf"; // because the are conveniently located near carleton
    $intFourthPlace = "Augsburg"; // cause they arn't gac and im tired of the forum defending the gac'ers

  );

} else {

  $aryFinalFour = array(
   
    //lols same thing. only chiming in now because was lambasted for jumping in late before to root for the cArls!
    $strFirstPlace = "Carleton";
    $strSecondPlace = "St Thomas";
    $strThirdPlace = "St Olaf";
    $intFourthPlace = "Augsburg";

  );



}
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 05, 2013, 01:02:35 AM
What in the name of sam hill is happening to Macalester? Do they need to bring Barker back?
They looked bad against Wheaton as expected but I thought they would give them a bit of resistance. But nada.
Then it was incredible how inept they were against Augustana giving up all those goals in 5 mins. The frshmen kid looked legit , though. He was quick with good control and movements. Too bad the team sucks.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 05, 2013, 09:40:05 AM
Gotta give CSS some props, they have shown up this year ready to make a statement. Sounds like GAC had some early chances, but couldn't find the back of the net.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 05, 2013, 09:52:53 AM
Tough break for GAC yesterday. Seemed to have the better of the play. But you have to score to win, and CSS put out a great defensive effort to preserve the lead.

Tough weekend ahead for Gustavus as they head to Oshkosh to play UWS and UWO, both of which seem to be in great form to start the season.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 05, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
Nice result for CSC yesterday, looks like they absorbed quite a bit of GAC pressure and hung on for the 1-0 win on a PK goal.

Big win for Augsburg yesterday vs. UWS (3-1).  Ben Henry (freshmen) notched two goals for the Auggies while Edi Becerra had a couple of assists.  UWS lost a center back with 10 minutes to play to a red card so he will miss the GAC match. 

I heard that UST lost a starting back for the season in their most recent game (Shane Marshall) due to an ACL injury.  Big loss for UST as Marshall is a very solid player.  Hopefully he makes a speedy recovery.

This weekends big games for MIAC teams:

SJU @ Wartburg 

Prediction: 2-1 SJU.  Too much Coborn.

Augsburg @ Luther

Prediction: 1-0 Luther.  Hard to bet against the Norse after winning against Trinity down in Tx.

GAC vs. UWS

Prediction: 2-0 GAC.  Should be a hard fought game on neutral ground.  I expect GAC to pull this one out after losing to CSC.

CarlEton @ CSC

Prediction: 1-1. 

GAC @ UWO

Prediction: 0-0
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 09, 2013, 11:50:29 AM
Solid weekend for GAC putting up an OT win over UW superior and a 0-0 draw against UWO in back to back days.

Auggies also with a nice W this weekend over Luther.

Carleton ties CSS 0-0. A surprising result. Looks like CSS could be solid this year, keeping up with several top teams in the region. (although the tie with concordia is a bit suspect).
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on September 09, 2013, 01:42:03 PM
Caught the UWO-GAC match. Was very impressed with how GAC responded after going down to 10 men. UWO came out real strong and played aggressive, but they could only maintain that for the opening 15 minutes.

GAC started the second half with what appeared to be a majority of the bench players, with their starters coming in around the 60'. Interesting tactic, but it worked because GAC was able to play quicker with their second line players before bringing the starters back in and return to their technical approach.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Sirius90 on September 09, 2013, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: keeker on September 05, 2013, 01:02:35 AM
What in the name of sam hill is happening to Macalester? Do they need to bring Barker back?


They need to bring Leaney back: one of the great all-time D3 coaches.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 12, 2013, 03:12:22 PM
Caught the wartburg carleton game yesterday. It was so boring that my screensaver saved me from wasting the whole 90 minutes as it came on near the half time and wouldn't turn off.  So only watched first 30 or so minutes of the game, wartburg should have put away carleton early.  Carleton reminds me of vanilla ice cream - nothing exciting, completely bland.  Just pass around a bit here there then, boom, long pass to forwards. Didn't work. So repeat. Didn't work. Repeat. I thought they were suppose to be even better this year. Oh well.
Wartburg is a much improved team from last year but there defenders are not too good. Overall very boring 1st half and i imagine the 2nd half was no different.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 12, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
keeker, how long have you been a CarlEton fan?

I didn't get a chance to see any of the game unfortunately.  Based on results it looks like Wartburg has improved quite a bit which is good for the region (and the always below average IIAC).

There are a few decent games this weekend involving MIAC teams, unfortunately I think we could see a real smacking around as a conference...

UST vs. UWO  Prediction: UST 0-2 UWO

Wheaton (Ill.) @ Augsburg  Prediction :Wheaton 3-1 Augsburg

UWS @ MAC Prediction: UWS 3 - 0 MAC

SJU @ UWP  Prediction SJU 3 - 0 UWP

SJU @ Loras Prediction SJU 1 - Loras 3

Wheaton (Ill.) @ Bethel Prediction: Wheaton 8 Bethel 0





Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on September 12, 2013, 05:05:22 PM
The Carleton game was not the most exciting of games, but I can't imagine the GAC - Martin Luther (7-0) game was much more interesting. Sounded like a barn burner...

I'll copy Garabage Goals' format (but you did forget some games):

UST vs. UWO  Prediction: UST 1-2 UWO

Wheaton (Ill.) @ Augsburg Prediction:Wheaton 2-2 Augsburg

UWS @ MAC Prediction: UWS 2 - 0 MAC

SJU @ UWP  Prediction SJU 1 - 2 UWP

SJU @ Loras Prediction SJU 1 - Loras 2

Luther @ Olaf Prediction: Luther 1 - Olaf 1

Aurora @ Carleton Prediction Aurora 0 - Carleton 3
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 12, 2013, 05:23:45 PM
Not certain who mentioned anything about the GAC - Martin Luther game... The Gustavus faithful do not claim keeker as one of theirs.

Whoops... I didn't realize Luther played St. Olaf.

St. Olaf 2 Luther 0
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 12, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
Looks like another down year for the MIAC.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 13, 2013, 01:33:13 AM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 12, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
keeker, how long have you been a CarlEton fan?

Several years ago my niece went to carleton and played girls soccer so got interested in miac in general.
They say miac is strong but not so sure about that. uaa, iiac, and even cciw seem stronger than miac. This year I woudl've picked st olaf to win the whole thing. Them are  quality side that can play decent soccer. Gac, augsburg, St thomas, and carleton are all below Os.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 13, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
"Looks like another down year for the MIAC"

Looks like another idiotic comment by IdahoSoccer.  Loras fans should stop trolling other threads (MIAC, Messiah, etc.) and try and add something of value to the IIAC thread (almost impossible right?).

The MIAC, like every other season, will be competitive in the top 6-7 teams.

Keeker, the CCIW and IIAC are not as strong as the MIAC.  The IIAC has gotten better the last couple of years but the discrepancy in talent between Loras and the rest of the teams in the league is still pretty big.

Here is my prediction of how the MIAC will end this year.

1. GAC
1. CarlEton
1. St. Olaf
4. Augsburg
5. UST
6. SJU
7. Hamline
8. MAC
9. Bethel
10. SMU


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 15, 2013, 04:44:15 PM
Not trolling just updating.  Loras drops SJU 5-0 without their AA midfielder.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 16, 2013, 11:03:39 AM
Results from the weekend.

Wheaton beat Augsburg in a close one 1-0.
St. Olaf fell to Luther 3-2 at home.
UST tied UWO 1-1 with Oshkosh giving up their first goal of the season.
SJU got thumped by Loras 0-5.  SJU seems to lay down and die in big games every season so this isn't all that surprising.
MAC pulled off two upsets by beating UWS 2-0 and CSC 1-0 with less than a minute remaining in OT.

Conference games start this week.  Here are my predictions for the Wednesday games.

SJU 1 Hamline 2 --- Hamline have kept a lot of games close and are off to one of their best starts in years. SJU is hit or miss so I give this one to the Pipers.

Bethel 0 St. Olaf 2 --- I am afraid it is going to be another down year for the Beths.

Augsburg 2 SMU 1 --- Augsburg continues their hot start with a win in Winona.

UST 1 MAC 0 --- UST wins a close one at MAC

GAC 1 CarlE 1 ---  This should be a close game (unlike last years regular season match at GAC).  McGarrity is off to a slow start with 0 points through the first three games of this season which extends his pointless streak to 6 games dating back to last years St. Olaf game.  Zach Brown has a goal and an assist in 4 games and didn't play at all last game (injury or pointless to play him against Martin Luther?).  Where are the goals going to come from?  Also, I noticed that the CarlEton keeper that usually starts (Neher) hasn't played the last two games... Injury?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 17, 2013, 11:23:25 AM
SJU 1 Hamline 1 --- Hamline takes an early lead but gives up a PK late to give up the extra points.

Bethel 0 St. Olaf 3 --- Ole's should handle Bethel no problem.

Augsburg 3 SMU 1 --- St. Mary's appears to be improving under new coach Pete Watkins, but I doubt they are quite ready to really compete with the teams at the top of the confernece.

UST 1 MAC 0 --- MAC with a couple of surprising wins, maybe the dark horse of the conference race this year? Regardless, I think they drop a close one to the Thommies.

GAC 2 CarlE 1 in OT --- Rematch of last years Conference Finals. Should be an exciting and evenly played match.


A couple of comments earlier about it being a down year for the MIAC seem pretty premature, IMHO. Looking across the North Region, the top 3-4 teams in the MIAC have gotten very similar results against like competition to the top 1-2 teams in the IIAC, WIAC and UMAC. If it is indeed a down year for the MIAC, then it could be argued the entire North Region is in a down year. The "top ranked" teams in the region haven't exactly been trottling the competition. 


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on September 17, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
SJU 2 Hamline 0 --- Should be an easy game for SJU if they're the team I think they are.

Bethel 1 St. Olaf 4 --- Lots of scoring talent on Olaf. They should be a tough test for most teams this year.

Augsburg 2 SMU 0 --- Augsburg is always organized and this shouldn't be that difficult of a game for them.

UST 1 MAC 1 --- Mac is going to get one here based on their results over the weekend. Should be a good atmosphere at MAC that night.

GAC 1 CAR 1 --- Both teams know what to expect. Shame the game is happening early in the season.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 18, 2013, 06:35:30 PM
GAC up 2-1 with about 15 min to play over the Carlys; 2 goals by Zach Brown. Have only been tuned in for the 2nd half, but GAC very much controlling possession, stringing several passes together.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 18, 2013, 06:52:00 PM
BIG Win for the Gusties!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 19, 2013, 11:47:01 AM
Results from the MIAC yesterday:

SJU 2 Hamline 1
Augsburg 1 SMU 0 OT
St. Olaf 4 Bethel 2
UST 1 MAC 1
GAC 2 CarlEton 1

My initial thoughts on the opening games:

* Teams like Hamline, SMU, Concordia, and Bethel will be less of a pushover than in years past during conference play.
* MAC has snapped out of their funk and should've beaten UST last night.  They could finish as high as fourth if they continue their current form.
* CarlEton is not as good as years past but they will still finish top 3 in the conference.  They need a healthy Ginet as their attack is average without two healthy dangerous options.
* St. Olaf is too weak defensively to win the conference.
* Zach Brown (GAC) will win conference MVP


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on September 19, 2013, 12:06:11 PM
GG you beat me to it.

Results from last night's MIAC action:

Bethel 2 St. Olaf 4 --- Nice bounceback win for the Oles after the tough Luther loss on Sunday. Skrip, Rosenthal, Nick and Kennnnnnnziiiiiieeeeeee Lund are a dynamic front four for Stolaf and they are firing on all cylinders now.

St. John's 2 Hamline 1 --- Didn't see this coming. But the Johnnies seem pretty enigmatic this year so who knows what to expect. Big game for them versus St. Olaf this weekend.

Gus.Davis 2 carLetOn 1 --- Deserved win for the Gusties, and it should have been more. McGarrity breaks his dry spell, but the Knights' worrying trend of giving up goals immediately after they score needs to stop if they want to be contending for a MIAC title. First goal was an absolute peach by Zach Brown, but his second goal was down to some pretty awful defending from a short corner. Carleton lost the first game last season versus the Johnnies only to go undefeated the rest of the MIAC season...will it happen again?

Doggies 1 St. Mary's 0 (2 OT) -- Another close result that surprised me. The Cards played Augsburg pretty evenly throughout the course of the match, but if you give Holker's men enough set pieces throughout the game they'll capitalize. Henry is a beast in the air. Glad to see they got their Gilmer replacement.

Tommies 1 Mac 1 (2 OT) -- Exciting game with both sides having chances in the 2nd half and especially during the OT periods to put the game away. St. Thomas' attack looked solid but they are going to have to shore up the backline if they want to be at the top of the table come early November. Credit to the Scots, who have recovered from an ugly 0-3 start and have rebounded well against good regional opponents. Schembri-Wismayer is legit in that Mac midfield.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 19, 2013, 12:16:22 PM
+1 karma to you KnightRider for putting up with my anti-CarlEton rants for the past 4-5 years and giving an unbiased opinion on the GAC/Car game as well as some insight on other games in the conference. 

A CarlE poster with something to say besides "WE R GUD", excellent!

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on September 19, 2013, 03:46:10 PM
It's 'good' GG, not 'gud'  ;)

All stupid jokes aside, I didn't think GAC completely outplayed Carleton, but they played well enough to win. You're right about the level of competition in the league tho. I could easily see a situation like last year where there are two, three, even four teams fighting for one or two playoff spots come late October. I'm sure Traitor Joe and the Knights will be in the mix by then, and if so, you might as well start engraving that 2013 MIAC Championship trophy.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 19, 2013, 04:42:29 PM
"I'm sure Traitor Joe and the Knights will be in the mix by then, and if so, you might as well start engraving that 2013 MIAC Championship trophy."


CarlEton's record in the MIAC playoffs = 4-4-2 (W-L-D)

CarlEton's record in the MIAC championship = 0-2-2
* Advancing once on penalties vs. Augsburg 2008

:-\
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on September 19, 2013, 06:12:23 PM
I think KnightRider was talking about regular season championships which Carleton has been dominating for the past 5-6 years. Sure they're playoff runs haven't been anything to brag about but you can't take the championships away from them.

Looking forward to this weekend:

Mac  1 Hamline 0

Olaf 1 SJU 2 - Upset here. Is St.Johns still playing on their football field?

Augs 3 Bethel 0 - Should be another win for Augsburg

SMU 0 CAR 2 - Time for the knights to get back on track

CC 0 GAC 2 - Riding the wave of the victory in Northfield.



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on September 19, 2013, 10:10:51 PM
I have no idea what carlton was playing yestrday. Their two defensive mids were horrible especailly the freshmen kids who kept on killing opportunities by holding onto the ball too long. Freshmen i understand but dude, this aint no highschool ball. You have to play disciplined. You're defensive mid playing 4-2-3-1. If the other undisciplined defensive mid acts like a center forward, you stay back. Instead, carleton was constantly outnumbered in the middle by more disciplined, compact Gustie mids. Lily was good, bald headed kid was good along with the samurai wanna be kid.
Carleton's center mid, omg,  i don't even know why he's playing. Can't dribble, can't atttack, only pass back or pass laterally. And why is he playing like he's a center forward?  Is Mcgarrity playing center mid? Why is he always on top of his own penalty box. The carleton commentator says Mcgarrity was dribbling like Messi. I had to clean my monitor as I happened to be drinking Ovaltine at that moment. I think the whole carleton soccer team and community are living in fantasy island just cause they had tons of luck last year. Corcoran is a real deal though, but can't do it all on his own.
Zach brown was awesome yesterday. Kid is good. Zach over brandon any day.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on September 19, 2013, 11:06:52 PM
Quote from: BradleyFan001 on September 19, 2013, 06:12:23 PM
I think KnightRider was talking about regular season championships which Carleton has been dominating for the past 5-6 years. Sure they're playoff runs haven't been anything to brag about but you can't take the championships away from them.

Looking forward to this weekend:

Mac  1 Hamline 0

Olaf 1 SJU 2 - Upset here. Is St.Johns still playing on their football field?

Augs 3 Bethel 0 - Should be another win for Augsburg

SMU 0 CAR 2 - Time for the knights to get back on track

CC 0 GAC 2 - Riding the wave of the victory in Northfield.

Not really an upset to pick SJU on their new pitch. Same team that beat Oles in Northfield last year. Oles have better NC record but  SJU had ambitious early sked. That said, Johnnies seem inconsistent so far.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on September 19, 2013, 11:57:19 PM
Go go gadget CarlE bias/logic:

Yeah a lot of luck in 2012. And 2011. And 2009. And 2008. And 2007. Gee come to think of it there is a lot of luck there. I can't argue with GG about the playoff record (2012: PK shootout loss, 2011: Double OT loss, 2009: One goal loss, 2008: WE R GUD!!!!!). And on a personal note, I place more value in the regular season and the ability to be the best team over a two month period than a week. But clearly being in the tournament and getting the AQ is top priority (as it should be for most teams), but to get there you gotta be in the top 4, and Carleton does that year after year after year. So while they might not be able to get it down in a one-off game, in a season, where every team plays each other, CArleton is in the top 3 (and usually, if not always the top 2) all the time. It makes no sense to say that caRLEton fans are in fantasy land. Especially when they have CONSISTENTLY been the best in the MIAC over the last 7 years.

I'll preface this next part with this: Zach Brown is a good (maybe even great) player, and has been one of GAC's best players over the last two years (and five games). And he had a good game yesterday. A great finish and a number #9 goal from the set piece.

But Branden is first pick everytime. That's some picking Arian Foster before Adrian Peterson thinkin' right there (if you're into fantasy football). I guess you have your reasons for Zach, and I for Branden, but if we are going to compare the return from both players (albeit 5 GAMES INTO THE REGULAR SEASON!!!!!), then Branden looks like the better player. But I look forward to hearing your view on why Zach is so undisputedly better.

To the weekend:

Mac 2 Hamline 1 -- The Scots continue their good run of form and remain undefeated.

Oles 3 Johnnies 2 -- I don't think anyone knows if Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde will show up for the Collegeville folks. If Coburn comes to play it could be a 10-goal game, but I think Olaf does enough to win. 

Augs 2 Bethel 1 (OT) -- Kordah should hit the net anytime now. St. Mary's tested the Dogsburg backline and I think Bethel could maybe even knick a draw.

SMU 1 CAR 2 -- Don't give up a goal after you score. Don't give up a goal after you score. DON'T GIVE UP A GOAL AFTER YOU SCORE! Anyways, a good comeback win after the GAC disappointment midweek. McGarrity and Bartholomay with the golazos.

CC 0 GAC 3 -- Yeah. Something like this. Anyone still upset that Riley McGlynn didn't win MIAC POY in 2010? Would have loved to see them in the tournament that year...

Luther 2 UST 2 -- UST backline looked very shaky against the Scots, and Luther frontline looked good against St. Olaf backline. Should be an entertaining match. The D1 transfer isn't too shabby for UST.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 20, 2013, 10:55:01 AM
We still aren't claiming keeker as a GAC fan...

I can't imagine too many freshmen having success against the Gustie midfield, especially in a game of that magnitude this early in the season.  David Lilly is a difference maker in every game he plays in.  I wish his goal tally would increase but he is a constant play maker that does a lot off the ball and on the ball.  He is making a strong case for 1st-team all-region and maybe 3rd team all-american this season.

Inregards to Brown vs. McGarrity...  Both are obviously exceptional players (all-region or all-american talent).  They were both top 5-6 players in the conference last season in their freshmen and sophomore seasons.  McGarrity is more versatile than Brown in that he could probably play in any forward role or he could play midfield.  The problem with McGarrity vs. GAC is that the midfield for CarlEton was outplayed so severely that McGarrity had to drop 30 yards deeper than he should be in order to receive the ball.  McGarrity has the ability to produce some magic, (see 30 yard bomb off the cross bar in the MIAC playoff championship last year) but I feel that he often times gets lost in a game when he doesn't have someone next to him (Ginet) to work off of.  Brown is an out and out striker that can work well with someone up top or crush it by himself.  He scores at will.  He will score you poacher goals (rebounds, right place at the right time, etc.), he will beat 3 players and dribble the keeper, or he will bend a shot from 25 yards out into the upper 90 turning nothing into something (as he did Wednesday)...  There is no settling a debate over which one is better.  But, after their first matchup of the season it is Brown 2 McGarrity 1. :)

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 20, 2013, 11:31:11 AM
Pretty fair analysis of Brown v. McGarrity.

I think its safe to say that McGarrity is a more dynamic player, more versatile. Brown is a pure striker/finisher; give him a glimps at goal from within about 25-30 yard and he's going to punish you. Apples and Oranges really. McGarrity has, so far this season, been less impactful on the score sheet than Brown, but its quite possible the flood gates will open now that he's tallied his first goal of the season.

Weekend Predictions....

Mac 3 Hamline 1 -- After a slow start, MAC has turned things around. the Scots could very well be the dark horse of this season.

Oles 2 Johnnies 2 --   Neither team very strong defensively.

Augs 2 Bethel 0 -- Auggies win with 2 late goals.

SMU 0 CAR 2 -- Carlies with a good rebound win, holding SMU scoreless.


CC 0 GAC 2 -- GAC coming in off a big win. As long as they dont' look past the cobbers they should win this one easily.


Luther 1 UST 1 -- UST, always picked to do well at the outset of the season. I think they crumble early this year...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 23, 2013, 10:48:11 AM
Weekend results:
Macalester 1 Hamline 0: Big win for Mac if they are going to be contenders for the MIAC playoffs.  The Scots scored with under 5 to play in what looked to be a very even match.

St. Olaf 2 St. Johns 1:  Nice road win for the Oles.

SMU 0 CarlEton 2: It looks like CarlEton controlled this one from start to finish scoring both of their goals in the second half.

Concordia 0 GAC 1: GAC scored with under 10 to play to take down the Cobbers.  GAC could've won this game by 2-3 had they finished their opportunities early on.  David Lilly with his second consecutive assist on a game winner in conference play. 

Augsburg 1 Bethel 2: Shock of the weekend.  Bethel takes down Augsburg.  It looks like Augsburg had the statistical advantage but Bethel made the most of their chances.

UST 3 Luther 2 (OT): Rapisarda game winner.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 23, 2013, 12:43:01 PM
Very unfortunately result for the Auggies. They seem to lack scoring power. With rare exception, all their games have been decided by a single goal. Looks like Holker needs to find a go-to finisher.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: DoubleDeuce on September 24, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
Nice role models, Kevin.

http://www.stolaf.edu/athletics/soccer/men/bios/16skripke.html
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 24, 2013, 03:53:33 PM
Quote from: DoubleDeuce on September 24, 2013, 02:47:50 PM
Nice role models, Kevin.

http://www.stolaf.edu/athletics/soccer/men/bios/16skripke.html

AI and Mike Vick!?!  So you're telling me Kevin hates to practice and isn't a big fan of dogs?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 25, 2013, 10:08:39 AM
Unfortunate loss for GAC yesterday.  I caught about 30 minutes of the game online.  The GAC backline without Schmith looked like they were in shambles at times.  GAC completely controlled the game but were caught 3 times on a quick counter attack (long ball behind the GAC backline) that resulted in two Wartburg breakaway goals.  GAC had 2 balls cleared off the line in the 30 minutes I watched.  Tranoris hit a bomb from the top of the box that hit a defender in the face who was covering the post from a corner kick.  GAC will need to sort their backline out without the senior leadership of Schmith, not certain on the severity of his injury but hopefully he is back soon. 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
MIAC matches this weekend:

St. Olaf @ Concordia: Prediction 2-0 St. Olaf

SMU @ UST: Prediction 3-1 UST

CarlEton @ Bethel: Prediction 2-0 CarlE's

GAC @ SJU: Prediction 2-1 GAC

Augsburg @ MAC: Prediction 1-0 Augsburg
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on September 26, 2013, 01:56:35 PM
Wartburg's done pretty well against MIAC opponents this year. I think they have yet to lose against someone from MN.

St. Olaf @ Concordia: 3-0 St. Olaf

SMU @ UST: 2-1 UST

CarlEton @ Bethel: 2-0 Carleton

GAC @ SJU: 1-1

Augsburg @ MAC:  1-1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on September 27, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
St. Olaf @ Concordia: Prediction 1-0 St. Olaf

SMU @ UST: Prediction 2-1 UST

CarlEton @ Bethel: Prediction 3-0 CarlE's

GAC @ SJU: Prediction 3-0 GAC

Augsburg @ MAC: Prediction 1-1 Draw
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on September 27, 2013, 01:02:09 PM
It is supposed to be high 50's/low 60's and rainy most of the day tomorrow.  Should make for some interesting results.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on September 27, 2013, 01:58:03 PM
St. Olaf 3 Concordia 2 -- Olaf defense just needs to do enough to keep Cobbers from scoring 2+

SMU 1 UST 2 (OT) -- Cards continue to stay close with the MIAC's best

Car 2 Bethel 0 -- Hopefully the run keeps going.

GAC 1 SJU 1 -- Schmith's role in the match might determine how this one goes. If he's in GAC gets it, but SJU has the firepower to surprise

Augs 2 MAC 1 (2 OT) -- Should be a good one. Mac is rollin' right now, and Augs needs to bounce back after the Bethel result. I could see it going either way...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on September 28, 2013, 06:28:08 PM
Carls win 4-1. Impressive win in some bad conditions.

Any word on the Olaf-Cobbers game? MIAC and Concordia website say CON won 2-0, but Olaf website says they won 2-0. And no site has a box score...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on September 29, 2013, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
MIAC matches this weekend:

St. Olaf @ Concordia: Prediction 2-0 St. Olaf

SMU @ UST: Prediction 3-1 UST

CarlEton @ Bethel: Prediction 2-0 CarlE's

GAC @ SJU: Prediction 2-1 GAC

Augsburg @ MAC: Prediction 1-0 Augsburg

A bit conservative on the GAC prediction huh! 
I watched most of the MAC v AUG pretty well matched up between the 18's.  I turned it off 2 min before MAC scored, must have been a flurry the last 2 minutes trying to get the equalizer.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on September 29, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on September 29, 2013, 08:46:38 AM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on September 26, 2013, 10:46:15 AM
MIAC matches this weekend:

St. Olaf @ Concordia: Prediction 2-0 St. Olaf

SMU @ UST: Prediction 3-1 UST

CarlEton @ Bethel: Prediction 2-0 CarlE's

GAC @ SJU: Prediction 2-1 GAC

Augsburg @ MAC: Prediction 1-0 Augsburg

A bit conservative on the GAC prediction huh! 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 01, 2013, 09:55:28 AM
No real surprises over the weekend, but I guess MIAC games are starting to happen during the week.....on Tuesdays? Usually the Tuesday games happen towards the end of the year. Predictions with Non-conference games first.

Non-conference:

Northwestern @ Carleton: 0:5 Carleton

Bethany Lutheran @ STO: 0:1000000 STO

Tuesday:

Thomas @ Bethel: 3-0 Thomas

SJU @ Mac: 1-2 Mac

Wed:

Concordia @ Augsburg: 0:2 Augsburg

GAC @ SMU: 3:0 GAC



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 01, 2013, 10:35:16 AM
My GAC prediction was off a bit from the weekend.  0-0 score at the half then a 4 goal outburst by the Gusties in the second half.  Hopefully GAC can continue to finish their chances as the season progresses.


MIAC Predictions

UST 2 Bethel 1
SJU 2 MAC 0
Concordia 0 Augsburg 1
GAC 2 SMU 0

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 01, 2013, 12:42:52 PM
Midweek MIAC Predictions
UST 1 - Bethel 0

SJU 1 - MAC 1

Concordia 0 - Augsburg 1

GAC 4 - SMU 1

NW 0 - CarlEton 3

Bethany 0 - St. Olaf 5
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 01, 2013, 02:56:19 PM
MIAC Predictions

UST 2 Bethel 1

SJU 2 MAC 2

CON 1 Augsburg 3

Gac 3 SMU 0

CAR 5 NW 0

Olaf 6 Bethany 1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 03, 2013, 10:53:38 AM
UST crushed Bethel 7-1:  I expected this result, just not this scoreline.   

SJU beats MAC 1-0: SJU keeps their MIAC playoff hopes alive with a win against fellow bubble team MAC.  Big win away from home for SJU.

Augsburg over Concordia 4-1:  Surprise result of the week for me.  Concordia has been keeping most games close so it looks like the Auggies made the most of their chances.

GAC 3-1 winners over SMU: Sendelbach from GAC has been on a rampage lately with four goals in his last four games.  He had only scored two goals in the previous three seasons.  David Lilly and Zach Brown had a goal and an assist each to lead the offensive charge.

Current Standings

Schools     Pts     MIAC     All
Gustavus     12      4-0        7-2-1
St. Thomas  10      3-0-1     8-1-2
St. Olaf         9       3-0        8-1
Augsburg      9       3-1        7-2-1
Carleton       6       2-1         7-1-2
Saint John's  6       2-2        4-5-1
Macalester    4       1-2-1     5-5-1
Bethel           3       1-3        3-6
Concordia     0        0-4       1-8-1
Hamline        0        0-2       3-5
Saint Mary's  0        0-4       3-6-1

Weekend games:

SMU @ Concordia: 2-0 Cobbers

Hamline @ UST: 3-0 UST

SJU @ CarlEton: 1-0 CarlEton

MAC @ Bethel: 2-1 MAC

St. Olaf @ GAC: 3-1 GAC   The Oles have a great attack but are suspect in the back.  If GAC can control the midfield they will win this game.

Non-conference: Augsburg 0 @ UWO 2
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 03, 2013, 01:18:33 PM
Weekend games:

SMU @ Concordia: 1-0 Cobbers...Concordia should win this one.

Hamline @ UST: 2-0 UST - Hammies keep it close through the first half, but UST comes out blazing in the 2nd.

SJU @ CarlEton: 2-0 CarlEton - Should be an easy win at home for the CarlE's.

MAC @ Bethel: 1-0 MAC - MAC squeeks by Bethel.

St. Olaf @ GAC: 2-1 GAC   - Easily the most exciting matchup on the weekend. GAC comes on top at home.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 04, 2013, 03:02:34 PM
It's been a pretty quiet season on the boards thus far. Not too much bickering or back and forth.

SMU @ Concordia: 0-2 Long drive for SMU

Hamline @ UST: 0-2 Easy win for UST

SJU @ CarlEton: 0-1 Rematch of last years playoff semi

MAC @ Bethel:  3-1 Everyone keeps scoring on Bethel

St. Olaf @ GAC: 1-2 Home field gets the win. Probably going to be really really windy
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 05, 2013, 04:56:00 PM
Gustavus with the 2-1 win over St. Olaf. GAC gave up a PK early in the 2nd half, giving the Ole's the equalizer. Zach Brown Band with the GW shortly after. Gustavus had some great stretches holding possession. Olaf looked dangerous at times as well. Next weekends match against St. Thomas is a big one for the Gusties.

Caught the OT periods of CarlEton and St. Johns. OT was pretty even, althought the CarlE's outshot the Johnnies pretty signicantly in the final stats. 1-1 draw was certainly not the result either of these teams needed. Looks like the Knights run as regular season champs could be coming to an end...

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 06, 2013, 05:39:33 PM
The St.Thomas result was also a little interesting. Everyone predicted a win for UST. At this point, GAC is running away with the league. They don't have the easiest of schedules left but most of the opponents are home games.

I think GAC will clinch (before the last game) , so the real story is who is going to claim the next three spots. 6 teams have a chance to break into the top 4.

The johnnies and MAC will probably start to drop out in the next two weeks leaving the race between Carleton,Olaf,St Thomas, And Augsburg.

Carleton has to play all of them before the end of the season (All away). It's do or die time now for the knights. Wins over St Thomas and Augsburg would do a lot for their playoff picture.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 07, 2013, 12:06:48 PM
I was pretty surprised by the UST result against Hamline. Thought for sure the Thommies would get a win over Hamline.

GAC definitely controls their own fate. If they continue play to their potential, they should have an undefeated conference season (knock on wood). I have yet to see St. Thomas play, but from what I've seen of the other MIAC schools, GAC should be able to take care of business.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 08, 2013, 11:21:01 AM
What are the chances that UST has video or live stats for Saturday's game vs. Gustavus? I couldn't find anything on their match last weekend...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 09, 2013, 01:14:33 PM
A little midweek action, both in the MIAC and a few non-conference tilts.

Stoles 3 Hamline 0: Skrip with a brace. No Rosenthal in the line up against GAC. Wonder how serious it is...

Loras 5 St. Mary's 1: Not the best time to play Iowa's finest. St. Mary's scores a consolation goal at the end.

Carls 1 Luther 1: Should be a tight contest. Knights need to start winning games to have a remote shot at a post-season bid. Bartholomay scores and battles McGarrity for leading goal scorer for the rest of the season.

Gustiefan, I'd say live stats is probably asking too much of UST. Their soccer coverage is pretty atrocious, especially when you consider they had instant replays for their football game against the caRlIes last weekend. I guess there's money to spend for a turf field but not a decent live broadcast. Shame.


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 09, 2013, 01:49:35 PM
Midweek + weekend predictions:

Olaf 2 Hamline 0
Olaf 3 MAC 1
Bethel 1 SJU 4
GAC 2 UST 0
Concordia 0 Hamline 1
CarlEton 1 Augsburg 1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 09, 2013, 03:03:46 PM
Olaf 1 Hamline 0
Olaf 1 MAC 1
Bethel 1 SJU 2
GAC 3 UST 1
Concordia 1 Hamline 1
CarlEton 0 Augsburg 1


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 10, 2013, 06:31:48 PM
Olaf 2 MAC 1
Bethel 0 SJU 2
GAC 2 UST 1
Concordia 1 Hamline 1
Carleton 1 Augsburg 1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 11, 2013, 03:47:18 PM
Olaf 1 Mac 0
Bethel 2 SJU 2
GAC 2 UST 1
Cobbers 1 Hamline 2
Carleton 2 Augsburg 1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 12, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
GAC with 1-0 win over UST.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 13, 2013, 12:34:20 AM
Knights with a resounding 3-1 victory over the Auggies. Passalino with a hat trick? Yeah, no big deal. Great result. Bring on the Scots!!!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 14, 2013, 12:16:09 PM
Nice win for Gustavus this weekend at St. Thomas.  The Tommies came out strong in the first half and held onto the ball well.  Despite the possession early on St. Thomas didn't create much for dangerous opportunities.  GAC picked up the intensity quite a bit in the second half and was knocking at the door for majority of the final 30 minutes.  The goal for Gustavus was a beauty.  A great ball was whipped in by Bjerk who found Tranoris (perfectly timed run behind the back line) for a sweet half volley past the UST keeper.  Miles Stockman-Willis from UST was red carded in the 90th minute per the box score.  I didn't see what happened or see the card given.

Here are the current standings and schedule for teams that have a chance to make the MIAC playoffs

Team             Pts.   Record     Remaining teams to play                 Analysis
Gustavus      18      6-0           MAC, Aug, @Bethel, Ham                3 of last 4 at home.  GAC should hopefully lockup the title @ Bethel.
St. Olaf         13      4-1-1        @SMU, UST, Aug, Car                     3 major tests remaining, all at home to end the season
St. Thomas   11      3-1-2        @SJU, @ STO, Car, @Aug               4 tough games remaining for UST, they may be on the outside looking in
Carleton       10      3-1-1        MAC, Ham, @Con, @UST, @STO     2 hard away games to end the season.  Will the CarlE's miss the 2013 playoffs?
Saint John's  10      3-2-1        UST, @Aug, SMU, @Con                 SJU will need to win 3 of 4 to have a chance at making the playoffs.                   
Augsburg      9       3-2            Ham, SJU, @GAC, @STO, UST         The Auggies will need to accumulate 10 points in their last 5 matches.
Macalester    8       2-2-2         @Car, @GAC, @Con, @SMU           4 away games and MAC will need to go 3-0-1 in order to advance.





Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 15, 2013, 10:18:10 AM
Freshmen with a hat-trick for Carleton? Huge two weeks for Carleton, along with the rest of the top 6 teams. Good breakdown GG.

Bethel @ Concordia: 1-2. crickets...crickets...crickets.
St. Thomas @ SJU: 1-1 Huge game for both sides
Mac @ Carleton: 0-2. Knights will keep on riding the wave after beating the Auggies
STO @ SMU: 3-0 SMU has only scored two goals in the MIAC this year.
Hamline @ Augsburg: 0-1 With a win, Auggies stay in the hunt.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 15, 2013, 01:52:38 PM
Predictions:

Bethel @ Concordia: 3-3 Barn burner in Moorehead

St. Thomas @ SJU: 1-0 UST, if Stockman-Willis is out due to suspension (red card) the Tommies will struggle to score but should come out on top.

Mac @ CarlEton: 1-2 CarlEs.  Must win for both teams.

STO @ SMU: 2-0.  Oles win in Winona.

Hamline @ Augsburg: 0-1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 17, 2013, 11:50:35 AM
MIAC results and analysis:
Bethel 3 @ Concordia 2: Nice result for the Beths away from home.

UST 2 @ SJU 2: Without Stockman-Willis UST draws @ SJU.  This was the Tommies easiest game of their four remaining going into the game.  This may be a year where the Tommies fall on their face due to their inconsistencies (Hamline, MAC, SJU).  Could SJU sneak into the playoffs with a positive string of results?

MAC 0 @ CarLEton 2: Nice win for the CarlE's.  They shouldn't have a problem making the MIAC playoffs (#2 or #3 seed) as no teams below them can string together wins.

Hamline 0 @ Augsburg 1: Necessary win for the Auggies.  Their loss @ Bethel earlier this season could be their demise.  The Auggies have a tough conference schedule remaining against teams that will all be battling for a MIAC playoff spot.

St. Olaf 4 @ SMU 1: Oles take care of business in Winona.

Weekend games and predictions:

Bethel 1 @ SMU 0:  Bethel wins their second consecutive conference road game for the first time since the 2004 season (Note: they had actually won three consecutive road games in '04 enroute to their only MIAC playoff appearance @ CarlEton 1-0, @SMU 1-0, @GAC 1-0)

Hamline 0 @ CarlEton 3: CarlEton takes care of business at home before they play their last 3 MIAC games on the road.

SJU 1 @ Augsburg 2:  Must win for both teams.  The Auggies should have the edge at home. 

MAC 0 @ GAC 2:  The Gusties will look to keep their unbeaten untied conference streak intact vs. the Scots.


Non-conference games:

UC-Santa Cruz @ St. Olaf: 3-0 Oles.  What happened to the UCSC program?  The Banana Slugs used to be a top 10 program and they have fallen off the map dramatically... Only 1 win this year?!?!

UCSC @ UST: 2-0 UST.



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on October 17, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
Probably too late for the Jays but Ian Scudder made his first appearance of the season vs. USTd. His absence (9g, 7a last season) hurt them all fall.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 17, 2013, 01:30:30 PM
The tie between UST and SJU certainly doesn't help to clear up the playoff picture any!

GAC seems to be a shoe in at this stage, assuming they don't implode, 2 more wins all but guaruntees them at least a share of the MIAC title. The Northfield duo are both looking pretty good for playoff spots as well, although they've got a couple of tough contests remaining.

I think the Auggies or SJU could end up with the 4th spot over UST. It's about that time of year for the Thommies to take a nose dive.

Weekend games and predictions:

Bethel 1 @ SMU 0:  Should be a real barn burner..

Hamline 0 @ CarlEton 2: I expect the CarlE's will handle the pipers with ease.

SJU 2 @ Augsburg 3 OT:  Auggies pull off another OT win.

MAC 0 @ GAC 3:  GAC handles the Scots with little trouble.

Non-conference games:

UC-Santa Cruz 1 @ St. Olaf 3: UCSC has been off my radar for a while. What a fall they've taken over the last few years.

UCSC 0 @ UST 2: Another L for the Slugs, and a good opportunity for the Thommies to regain their form, heading into the last few conference games, which are really must win games.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 18, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
Weekend predictions:

Bethel 2 SMU 0: SMU just can't catch a break

Hamline 0 Carleton 2: Knights continue their undefeated streak to 9 games.

SJU 1 Augsburg 3: Big playoff implications in this match. Loser probably out of the playoff race for good.

Mac 0 GAC 1: Gac does enough to break down a resilient Mac team.

As for the playoffs, I'd probably say GAC are a shoo-in for the title, unless they really choke in the last few games (which is highly unlikely). CarLEs and oLEs will tussle it out for that 2nd place spot and potentially the right to who gets a potential at large berth in the NCAA's (if the MIAC gets two bids). Augsburg and the Tommies will battle it out for the fourth playoff spot unless they are able to string together a few wins together. Should be a pretty fascinating playoff race...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 21, 2013, 11:11:42 AM
Weekend Recap:

Bethel 0 SMU 1:  SMU picks up their first W of the MIAC season.

Hamline 0 CarlEton 2:  Two goals from McGarrity in what looked like a dominating performance on paper.  The CarlE's are turning it on late in the season.

SJU 1 Augsburg 0: Not the result the Auggies were looking for.

Mac 0 GAC 2: I attended this match and it was cold, wet, and windy (if you can imagine that).  GAC controlled the possession in the first half but didn't generate many dangerous opportunities.  The GAC backline (with the exception of Elliott Emerson who played solid all game long) did not look sharp in the first half, they took several unecessary challenges where Mac players walked right passed them.  If GAC were playing a stronger opponent today they would've likely been punished in the first half.  The majority of the second half was played in Mac's end with GAC creating several great opportunities.  Both of GAC's goals were very nice.  Both goals were a result of a killer throughball from a midfielder (Adams/Sendelbach) that found the foot of Zach Brown who made no mistake with his opportunities.

Updated standings for teams with MIAC playoff hopes:

Team             Pts.   Record     Remaining teams to play      Analysis
Gustavus      21      7-0          Aug, @Bethel, Ham               GAC will be disappointed if they don't finish the conference season 10-0
St. Olaf         16      5-1-1       UST, Aug, Car                        The MIAC playoffs are basically starting right now for the Oles.
CarlEton       16      5-1-1       @Con, @UST, @STO              See St. Olaf
Saint John's  14      4-2-2       SMU, @Con                           SJU have a legit chance of making the playoffs with two wins.  WHODATHUNKIT?
St. Thomas   12      3-1-3       @STO, Car, @Aug                 UST may need to win out to make the playoffs which isn't very likely.       
Augsburg      12       4-3         @GAC, @STO, UST                See UST. 


Here are my thoughts on potential MIAC MVP candidates.

MIAC MVP Race:

Gustavus:

* Zach Brown: Leading the conference in goals (7), game winning goals (4), and points (16).  GAC has three games remaining vs. Augsburg/Hamline/Bethel so he should be adding to each of these categories.  Brown has been a force in the conference since he entered as a freshman.  He is a pure goal scorer and will likely be the leading scorer in the conference while playing for the conference champion.  Brown is certainly a first team all-region player and should be earning all-american honors this season.

* David Lilly: Tied for the lead in the conference with 5 assists.  Lilly pulls all the strings in the midfield for GAC.  Lilly is very dangerous on the ball whether he is dribbling or playing in a killer pass for a GAC goal.  He is a player that can be relied upon to play 90 minutes in a game at a very high level without losing a step.  Like Brown, Lilly should be earning first team all-region honors and should be highly considered an all-american candidate.

CarlEton:

* Branden McGarrity: Second in the league with 6 goals and second in the league with 15 points.  McGarrity is putting together another solid season for the Knights and will likely hold every scoring record for CarlEton by the time he graduates.  I would expect McGarrity to earn 1st  or 2nd team all-region honors this season.

* Neil Bartholomay: Bartholomay is one of the more physically dominant center backs the MIAC has had in quite a while.  He has upped his game this year scoring 5 goals with a couple of game winners.  Bartholomay was an AA last year and I expect much of the same this season as he is anchoring one of the top defensive teams in the nation.

Possible outside contenders:

* Nick Rapisarda (UST): Last years MIAC MVP is having a decent season.  The additional of Miles Stockman-Willis to this years team has had an impact on his statistics and one would've thought UST would be a conference title contender (not the case).

* Mackenzie Lund (St. Olaf):  Very good player on a very good team. 

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 21, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
Nice recap GG. It's looking pretty likely that Gac will go undefeated this season, which is an unbelievable achievement in such a tough league like the MIAC. If Olaf or Carleton win out the rest of the year that would have been enough to win the title almost any other year. Hopefully the NCAA takes notice in a few weeks when handing out at large bids.

The SJU/Augs result really changes the playoff race, and I'm pretty surprised that they were able to pull off the win (after relatively unconvincing performances against Mac and Carleton). I don't see SJU losing either one of their final two games, but this season has been pretty unpredictable so who knows what will happen. STo, Car, UST, and Augs face some challenging games in the final two weeks of the season.

As for MVPs, Brown and McGarrity are looking like the two prime candidates at this point. Kenzzzzzziiiiieeeeeee Lund has done well to pick up the production with Rosenthal being injured for various stretches this season. But Lilly and Bartho are equally deserving as well. Really don't think the MVP can come from anywhere except Gac, Carleton, or STo this year.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 21, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
No doubt when the Ole's are at fill strength, the potential is there for them to have a great attack. With the end of the season looming, they will have to be clicking right out the gate, no time for Rosenthal to get settled back in. It should be a great battle for second place.

Anything can happen in the MIAC Playoffs, beating the same team twice in a season is no easy task. But I'm really pulling for a big run out of the Gusties!

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 22, 2013, 10:42:19 AM
Rosenthal should help the Ole attack quite a bit.  It is unfortunate that he was injured most of the season.  It would've been interesting to see how the Oles would've done with him in the lineup.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 22, 2013, 12:41:11 PM
Did Rosenthal get hurt again after the Mac game? He played a few minutes in the first half and then played almost the entire second half and could have won the game in OT...I still think the biggest questions over Olaf this year have been their backline and midfield, so we'll see how they do with three tough games to finish the year.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on October 22, 2013, 02:12:07 PM
Nope, Rosenthal wasn't hurt again. It was more a case of believing that Olaf didn't need to risk him in the games after that and letting him rest it as long as possible I believe.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 24, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Weekend games and predictions:

SMU @ SJU: SJU 3-0
Bethel @ Hamline:  Pipers 1-0.
CarlEton @ Concordia: CarlE's 4-1
Augsburg @ GAC: GAC 1-0
UST @ St. Olaf: St. Olaf 3-2

Must win games for several MIAC teams.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 24, 2013, 10:28:29 PM
Congrats to GAC for clinching. Is this the earliest a team has clinched? Carleton in '09 clinched with 1 game left. 3 games left seems like a huge accomplishment (or bad showing from the rest of the team).

SMU @ SJU: SJU 2-0
Bethel @ Hamline:  Pipers 1-0
CarlEton @ Concordia: Carleton 3-0
Augsburg @ GAC: GAC 3-1
UST @ St. Olaf: St. Olaf 2-1

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 25, 2013, 11:52:43 AM
Great to see GAC Clinch a Playoff Spot. Now the boys have to get another win or two and lock up the #1 seed!

Predictions for this weekend:


SMU @ SJU: SJU 1-0
Bethel @ Hamline:  Pipers 2-0
CarlEton @ Concordia: Carleton 3-0
Augsburg @ GAC: GAC 2-0
UST @ St. Olaf: St. Olaf 2-1 OT

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 25, 2013, 12:47:28 PM
Weekend Predictions:

SMU @ SJU: SJU 2-0
Bethel @ Hamline: Beths 3-1
CarLES @ Cobbers: 2-0 Carls
Augs @ GAC: 2-1 OT Gac
UST @ STOLES: 3-2 Sto
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on October 27, 2013, 01:54:40 PM
Oles with a 1-0 win v UST thanks to a late bomb from outside the box by Mackenzie Lund. St. Thomas maybe only created 1 obvious chance the entire game.
Nick Lund should return for the Oles next week after missing this game, and Rosenthal played a majority of yesterday's game and looked sharp. The Oles are building...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 27, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
MIAC Results from 10/26:

Bethel 0 Hamline 1: The Pipers snatch their first win in the MIAC this season. Nice to see their hard work this season rewarded with a win.

Carleton 1 Concordia 0 (OT): It took a little more than 90 minutes, but the Knights are able to edge the Corn Cobs on a cold Moorhead afternoon. McGarrity with an absolute laser from a corner kick to seal a crucial 3 points and a playoff spot for the Knights.

Augsburg 0 Gustavus 2: A win that effectively seals first spot, an outright title, and home-field advantage for the Gusties. A pretty remarkable achievement. Hats off to them.

St. Thomas 0 St. Olaf 1: 89th winner by Kennnnzzzziiieeee and a crucial home win for the Oles. Loved the goal description for his goal as just 'snipe'. Seems like Olaf had control of the play for most of the game. Both the Oles and Carls can end Augsburg and St. Thomas' seasons respectively on Tuesday with wins.

St. Mary's 0 St. John's 2: The Johnnies doing their part to solidify the MIAC playoff picture with a shutout at home against the Cards. Never would have thought St. John's would have been at this point after some disappointing results to start out the campaign. What a recovery.


Tuesday Preview/Playoff Implications (all games bar Mac/Con are a 3:30 kickoff):


Mac at Concordia: Playing for pride at this point. The Cobbers surprise by snatching a 2-1 home win.

Gustavus at Bethel: With a win, GAC seals the title outright and home-field advantage. A tie/loss gives the Northfield sides a slight glimmer of hope for a share of the title. Bethel can be a tricky task at home, but I can't see GAC not getting a result here. 2-0 win and a MIAC title for the Gusties.

Carleton at St. Thomas: Massive playoff implications for both teams. A CAR win/draw eliminates the Tommies from a chance at postseason play. The Knights need to match the Oles' result against Augsburg to make their end of season clash a decider for who gets to host their MIAC playoff semi-final. Tommies need two wins from their last two games and a St. John's loss to Concordia on the final day to make the playoffs. Carleton-St. Thomas games are tight affairs, especially in St. Paul (where they have gone to OT in the last two meetings), but the Knights are on a roll and I expect them to pull off a narrow victory here. 2-1 Knights.

Augsburg at St. Olaf: Almost identical to the Carleton-St. Thomas implications, albeit with the playoff-bound team at home this time. Rolf Melby is a big home-field advantage for the Oles, in that their field is generally the worst in the MIAC around late October/early November. The field becomes incredibly firm and the field tapers off at the corners, so a lot of these games come down to athleticism and mistakes. Olaf have had a good record against the Auggies at home in recent years and I think that continues, making Saturday's contest against Carleton a monumental match for postseason play. 2-1 Oles.

St. Mary's at Hamline: No playoff implications. Hamline wins and extends their winning streak to two. 1-0 Pipers.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 29, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
Carleton taking player of the week awards 3 weeks in a row??   ;D ;D

Mac @ Concordia: 2-1 Long trip for Mac but they come away with one.

Gac @ Bethel: 3-0 Gac adds to their unbeaten streak.

Carleton @ STU: 1-1. Big game for both teams. Maybe St.Thomas is still embarrassed by the 4-0 loss last year.

Augs @ Olaf: 0-2 Olaf wins and gets ready for the Northfield Derby on Saturday.

SMU @ Hamline: 0-2 Snorefest

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 29, 2013, 08:24:09 PM
GAC clinches the MIAC Championship with a 4-1 win over Bethel! Great stuff!

CarlEton beats St Thomas 2-1 in OT and the Auggies with and upset over St Olaf. With these results It seems as though the stars are aligning for the Johnnies to snag the 4th seed in the playoffs.

If my math is correct CarlEton and Olaf are now locks for the playoffs. With a win or tie in the Northfield battle the Carls seal up the second seed. If Olaf wins then they will be #2.

Auggies the only team remaining with an outside shot to sneak into the playoffs. They must beat St Thomas this weekend and get some help from the cobbers with a win over the Johnnies.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on October 30, 2013, 12:04:22 AM
Big win for Carleton today against the Tommies. Back to back to back OT wins for Carleton when they play the Tommies in St. Paul. The Tommies are 3-3-3 in the MIAC?! I know they have the end of season collapse, but not winning 2 out of 3 conference games is god awful, especially with the offensive talent on that team. The Karly win even more crucial with Olaf dropping 3 points to a resilient Augsburg squad.

I've mentioned it multiple times on this thread already, but hats off to GAC on what should be a perfect (MIAC) season. Any knowledge on the last time that happened? Gotta be at least 20-25 years for a perfect regular season in the MIAC...

Carleton and Olaf were locks going into today's matches regardless of what happened in their games. Here are some of the scenarios for the playoff picture:

CAR Win/SJU Win or Draw: CAR = 2 seed; SJU = 3 Seed; STO = 4 seed
CAR Draw/SJU Win or Draw: CAR = 2 Seed; STO = 3 Seed; SJU = 4 seed
CAR Loss/SJU Win or Draw: STO = 2 Seed; CAR = 3 Seed; SJU = 4 seed

If Saint John wins or draws they are in the playoff. A SJU loss and an Augsburg win means Augsburg seals up the 4 seed. Pretty simple.

All eyes will be on the Northfield derby this weekend. Should be an electric encounter...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on October 30, 2013, 07:57:05 AM
Last Time GAC had an undefeated season was 1970. Not sure if there were any others around the MIAC since then...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on October 30, 2013, 09:00:52 AM
Went through the MIAC archives - not sure if they are all correct, but a lot of teams tied one game. Last undefeated season looks like St. Johns in 1986.

http://www.miacathletics.com/sports/msoc/1986-87/standings

Any other insight?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 30, 2013, 11:18:17 AM
Congrats to GAC on winning the MIAC (also known as the toughest conference in the North Region).  It would be great to see them win the regular season title without a blemish on their conference record.  St. Olaf did no favors to themselves in regards to their MIAC playoff seeding or their NCAA Pool C resume with a loss to Augsburg.  I would much rather see GAC play against SJU or Augsburg than St. Olaf in the first round of the MIAC playoffs.

Congrats to Zach Brown who has moved up to 5th place all time on the GAC scoring charts in only his junior season.  Brown has been so consistent the last few years in his goal scoring, specifically in big games.  Brown has 14 GWG's since 2011.  Hopefully he can help lead the team on a nice run in the MIAC tournament and NCAA tournament. 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on October 30, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on October 30, 2013, 11:18:17 AM
Congrats to GAC on winning the MIAC (also known as the toughest conference in the North Region). 

Interesting argument here.  It depends on what you mean by the word "toughest."  The MIAC has zero teams in the top three of the NCAA Regional Rankings (as of last week).  Also, the team in 4th place (SJU) was waxed by Loras 5-0 and suffered defeats to Luther (3-2) and Wartburg (3-0). 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 30, 2013, 01:33:23 PM
#4 MIAC team SJU (at the moment) loses to all three IIAC champions and that is a major knock to the MIAC?

One of the IIAC conference champions (Luther) lost to MIAC current #2 CarlEton, #5 Augsburg, and #6 UST.



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: DoubleDeuce on October 31, 2013, 03:47:45 PM
Quote from: BradleyFan001 on October 30, 2013, 09:00:52 AM
Went through the MIAC archives - not sure if they are all correct, but a lot of teams tied one game. Last undefeated season looks like St. Johns in 1986.

http://www.miacathletics.com/sports/msoc/1986-87/standings

Any other insight?

Macalester was 10-0-0 in conference play in 2001.  What a team that was... Kimani, (Older of the) Oppenheimers, everyone's favorite Kiwi Nathan Knox, Mayer.  Is SquareWheel still around?  I thought for sure he'd chime-in on this correction!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on October 31, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Squarewheel hasn't been around since the d3soccer.net days DD. 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: DoubleDeuce on October 31, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on October 31, 2013, 04:07:08 PM
Squarewheel hasn't been around since the d3soccer.net days DD.

Makes sense.  The Macalester soccer team hasn't really been around since then, either... ZING!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on October 31, 2013, 05:23:40 PM
Holy Crap DD where have you been hiding!?!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 01, 2013, 10:09:46 AM
Well, regular season coming to a close. Big games for a couple teams as the 4th playoff spot and home field advantage (for the first round) are still up for grabs. GAC is about to close up a pretty special season. Huge game in Northfield for second place.

Carleton hasn't faired too well there in the past (lost the past 3 times) but look for them to get some points off the Oles. Say what you will about how Carleton has performed in the beginning of the year- they're really coming into form now.

Mac @ SMU: 2-0 Mac
Hamline @ Gac: 3-0 Gac
Carleton @ Olaf: 2-1 OT
SJU @ Concordia: 3-0 SJU qualifies 4th and heads back to Northfield row the first round game for a second year in a row
St.Thomas @ Augsburg: 1-1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 01, 2013, 10:33:24 AM
Since CarlEton's loss to GAC they have played Saint Marys, Bethel, Bethany Lutheran, Northwestern (Mn), Saint Johns, Luther, Augsburg, MAC, Hamline, Concordia (Mn), and UST.  That isn't exactly the toughest schedule.  But, to CarlEton's credit they took care of business in each game played.

Predictions for the weekend:

Mac 2 @ SMU 1
Hamline 0 @ GAC 2
CarlEton 1 @ STO 2
SJU 1 @ Concordia 1
UST 2 @ Augsburg 2
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on November 01, 2013, 12:18:32 PM
it's a soft schedule. But it's not like there are any tough teams in miac anyway. gac and carleton will both repeat last years fiasco in the  1st round.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 01, 2013, 12:41:28 PM
GAC: Cobbers, Wartburg, St. John's, St. Mary's, St. Olaf, UST, Mac, Augs, Bethel

Car: St. Mary's, Bethel, Bethany Lutheran, Northwestern (MN), St. John's, Luther, Augs, Mac, Hamline, Cobbers, UST

First, they are virtually the same schedule (minus facing different IIAC champs, and relatively two simple non-conference games for CAR). So gimme a break GG. St. John's (playoff team), Luther (away...and midweek i might add), Augsburg (away), UST (away...and a must win game for them) are all difficult games.

Weekend predictions:

Mac 2 @ SMU 0
Hamline 0 @ GAC 3
Carleton 2 @ STO 1 (OT)
SJU 2 @ Concordia 0
UST 1 @ Augsburg 2
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 01, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
Check the Data sheets put out with the latest NCAA Regional Rankings.

http://static.psbin.com/7/h/b8upu6x6xvdlxj/North_Men_Data_10-30-13.pdf

GAC has the second strongest SOS in the North REgion behind only Loras. Considering GAC's overall record, and the fact that they are about to finish 10-0 in the MIAC seems like a pretty tough team to me...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 01, 2013, 01:07:30 PM
Keeker, excellent insight.  I could see two MIAC teams in the NCAA tournament this season and I am hoping they both make the Sweet 16.  The MIAC absolutely choked last season, there is no getting around it.  I can't imagine the same thing will happen again this season.

KnightRider, I wasn't commenting on CarlEton's overall schedule, just stating who they played since they went on their "hot streak". 

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on November 02, 2013, 06:18:40 PM
No surprises - Ole
s way too strong at full strength for Carleton. 2-0!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 02, 2013, 07:07:58 PM
Solid result for the Oles. CarlE's will have another shot at them this week in the playoffs. Beating the same team twice, especially back to back is no easy feat. Shots were even at 9 a piece today.

SJU throttled the cobbers locking up the 4th playoff spot.

GAC finishes off the season with a 2-0 win over the pipers. Only the 5th time in MIAC history for a team to go 10-0. Now it's time to take care of business and get that AQ!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 02, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
I don't know what game you were watching  jimmy92, Carleton was all over the Oles in the first half. Olaf converted their one good chance at the start of the second half and then were content with that slim lead. Knights had a flurry of chances at the end, including a goal line clearance and a goalmouth scramble. The second came when the Knights were throwing numbers forward at the end.

Tough to beat the same team twice back to back. I'm still confident
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on November 03, 2013, 02:20:37 AM
I dont recall any obvious chances for either team in the first period. For the first game all season Olaf have started at full strength, I think they gelled well. I'd be surprised if Carleton can stop then.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 03, 2013, 03:32:42 PM
No obvious chances?!?! You sure you weren't at the Olaf/Carleton women's game? Or the cross country meet? Cause off the top of my head I can name McGarrity hitting the top of the net from 30 yards and Passalino glancing a header just wide as two great chances that the Knights had in the first half. Look at the box score if you don't believe me. But to say there were no obvious chances is extremely idiotic. Or some intense Fox News bias. At this point I don't know what's worse.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on November 03, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
Sorry, sounds like a miscommunication. By obvious chances I meant clear-cut scoring opportunities where you would expect the player to score. Perhaps the header, but the long range shot I was certain the keeper had covered regardless. It seemed that Carleton controlled the flow of the first-half, but as I meant - I don't think that they particularly opened up the Olaf defense at will. Neither did Olaf of course, but they did enough to create a couple of clear cut scoring opportunities, which they converted.

I belief that the Oles have too many attacking options for Carleton to shut down this week. Could I be wrong? Of course, but as I said, I'd be surprised. I also don't recall Carleton managing a win at St. Olaf since 2007? It's becoming somewhat of a hoodoo....
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 04, 2013, 01:16:08 PM
I'd expect most of the players at this level to score when the ball is inside the 6 yard box and unmarked. Carleton had two or three of those types of chances alone in the first half, let alone the other four or five chances where they either got behind their backline or were given space to shoot from around 20 yards or so. Plus the set pieces in the second half, one that the keeper made a miraculous save and the other that hit the crossbar. Olaf had three good chances and were able to score on two. Simple as that...

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 04, 2013, 01:55:37 PM
Pretty strange finish to the MIAC season in my opinion.  GAC went unbeaten and untied.  St. John'ss came out of nowhere grabbing points vs. CarlEton, St. Thomas, and Augsburg to earn the 4th seed in the conference playoffs.  Looking at SJU's non-conference results they would've been better off if their team bus ran out of gas on the way to the game.  CarlEton and St. Olaf had fine seasons and the winner of Wednesdays MIAC playoff game will likely be ending the season for their cross town rival.  I don't anticipate there being three MIAC teams in the NCAA tournament this year but anything is possible.  None of the regions around the nation look head and shoulders above the rest, several blemishes for almost every team makes this years field pretty wide open in my opinion.

MIAC semi-finals Predictions:

GAC 2 SJU 0
St. Olaf 1 CarlEton 1 (St. Olaf 4-2 in pk's)


Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 04, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
You might well be right about SJU. But in fairness to the Johnnies, they played those NC games without Scudder, a MIAC first team pick last year and one of the league's better scorers.  With only four games under his belt, it's hard to see how he's fitting in.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Durantula on November 04, 2013, 07:49:45 PM
Is it for sure that MIAC will even get two teams in the ncaa?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 05, 2013, 09:34:33 AM
It isn't a guarantee that the MIAC gets two teams into the tournament but I would say that there is a very strong chance.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on November 05, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: jimmy92 on November 03, 2013, 03:51:22 PM
Sorry, sounds like a miscommunication. By obvious chances I meant clear-cut scoring opportunities where you would expect the player to score. Perhaps the header, but the long range shot I was certain the keeper had covered regardless. It seemed that Carleton controlled the flow of the first-half, but as I meant - I don't think that they particularly opened up the Olaf defense at will. Neither did Olaf of course, but they did enough to create a couple of clear cut scoring opportunities, which they converted.

I belief that the Oles have too many attacking options for Carleton to shut down this week. Could I be wrong? Of course, but as I said, I'd be surprised. I also don't recall Carleton managing a win at St. Olaf since 2007? It's becoming somewhat of a hoodoo....
Carlton had couple decent chances towards the end of 1st half  but it was all olaf second half. Carleton had  stupid midfield to start the game and finish the game. I  had to go take a leak at half time and was walking by the Oles huddle and heard the coach say they got no midfield so blah, blah, blah. Players who can't control or read the game played 2 center mids. it was so funny watching 4 left feet trying to string a pass or two. CM for olaf was toying with them. He was very very good. Very nice pass to lund for 1 st goal. If youre playing outside back, can't ball watch and let someone sneak behind you like that. Pretty good skills for Miac team I say. If carleton uses the same line up I say St oles 3 - Carleton 0. What the hell are they thinking on the other side of the canon river.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Christan Shirk on November 05, 2013, 08:16:12 PM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on October 30, 2013, 07:57:05 AM
Last Time GAC had an undefeated season was 1970. Not sure if there were any others around the MIAC since then...

If your're talking about undefeated and untied MIAC regular season, it appears there's three others:

1986 St. John's 9-0-0
1990 Macalester 10-0-0
2001 Macalester 10-0-0


If you open it to any undefeated MIAC regular season, GAC went 8-0-2 in 1972 and 7-0-2 in 1983.  Other to go undefeated:

1972 Gustavus Adolphus 8-0-2
1979 St. John's 9-0-3
1980 Augsburg 7-0-3
1982 St. John's 10-0-2
1983 Gustavus Adolphus 7-0-2
1985 St. Thomas 8-0-1
1988 Macalester 7-0-3
1989 St. John's 8-0-2
1991 St. Thomas 9-0-1
1997 Macalester 9-0-1
1999 Macalester 9-0-1
2002 Macalester 9-0-1
2003 Macalester 8-0-2
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 06, 2013, 08:44:33 AM
It's going to be a good game regardless of the opinion of the Carleton midfield. Last time Carleton played away at Olaf in the playoffs (after losing in the regular season as well), the game went to 2OT and Olaf broke through with 30 seconds left.

I'd be scared of McGarrity, although Olaf will probably double/triple team him again.

The game will go into OT and Carleton is going to get a break this year - its their time to get one at Olaf.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on November 06, 2013, 11:13:37 AM
With his experience, the only player I'd be worried about in this game is David Rosenthal.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 11:26:35 AM
Rosenthal's best season was his freshmen year.  Unfortunately he has been plagued with injuries and hasn't lived up to the lofty expectations he earned after having such a great first year.  His experience is a non-factor at this point.  The CarlEton vs. St. Olaf game today will be a very good one.  Hopefully the field doesn't have too much of a negative impact on the quality of soccer played.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 06, 2013, 01:20:53 PM
[Rumor] from inside source: Olaf's field is currently not playable. Supposedly they messed up when they were shoveling off the snow so the

CArLetON Olaf game is postponed.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 06, 2013, 01:24:02 PM
Update. Game pushed back to 2 @ Olaf tomorrow.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Sorry, I meant Sophomore season for Rosenthal.

Was last year that spectacular for him?  In conference play he had 8 goals and 5 assists which looks great on paper.  He scored goals vs. Saint Marys (3), Mac (2), Concordia (2), and Bethel (1).  Brown and McGarrity score against everyone, not just the perennial basement dwellers. 

Knights vs. Oles postponed?  Annoying.  Couldn't CarlEton explain to St. Olaf the proper green way to remove the snow?  If the sun doesn't melt the snow today you would think the heat from the malt-o-meal plant in town would do the trick.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 06, 2013, 01:37:00 PM
As if their joke of a field could get any worse...THEY HAVE NO GRASS TO PLAY ON!! The one thing you need on a soccer field (preferably a flat field, something they still can't manage) and they can't dot it. What clowns...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
Do they intend on hosting the game on their primary game field?

It is going to take a lot of Chia seeds in order for their to be a playable pitch tomorrow I can imagine.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 06, 2013, 01:57:52 PM
CH CH CH CHIA!

I bet they end up moving the match to another site...

Olaf's field is garbage to begin with.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 06, 2013, 02:48:44 PM
I was able to drive over there and check out the field. Their field is a joke as it is, but there is no way this game should/can be played tomorrow. Standing water on almost 1/2 the field, and they used a roller to get out the snow but they ended up ripping up even more grass.

GG, it seems like they want to have Olaf host at all costs. But when you can't put together a playable field where player safety/logistics can be enormously screwed up, it' just becomes a stain on the program/school. Why not host it at Mac/UST/any other turf field in the cities?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 03:03:40 PM
Would it be possible to play at a neutral field in Northfield? Northfield High School, etc.

Will we witness our first ever MIAC forfeit because St. Olaf cannot pony up a playable field? 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 06, 2013, 03:17:23 PM
Rumor has it that Carleton wanted to use Shattuck-St. Mary's and their turf field/or any other playable field in the cities, but Olaf probably wanted the home game. Real shame...

I think Northfield HS has grass for both football and soccer but I'm not certain. My Carleton friends say Bell looks good, but obviously that wouldn't be feasible. A forfeit is probably deserved at this point...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 03:51:37 PM
GAC down 2-1 to SJU.  GAC controlling the game but giving up two crap goals on crosses.  Terrible defending by GAC on those two occassions.  This could be a very high scoring game...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Puerco Espin on November 06, 2013, 03:56:43 PM
Upset brewing at Gustavus? Yikes. Could really throw things for a loop if they can't come back in the second. Interesting halftime result to say the least.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 03:59:15 PM
I would think GAC is in the tournament even if they lose. 

What a gross first half though... Poor defending by GAC on both goals.  Also, GAC wasted a couple of really solid opportunities.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 06, 2013, 04:21:41 PM
Really sloppy match BUT It's really nice that GAC moved the camera to half. Great view/camera. Almost getting on Carleton's level  ;D
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 04:40:36 PM
Nice Flop on the push, he should have gotten a YC for that acting job!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 04:52:54 PM
GAC is in trouble... They are playing sloppy soccer down to SJU's level.  I am not liking this at all... 

???
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 06, 2013, 05:01:36 PM
Bad result for Gac. Did SJU even try to play soccer in the second half?  Sloppy soccer benefited SJU

Did the rankings get to the players heads? It's not like they haven't been there before. Sloppy stuff
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
GAC loses 2-1.  Pathetic result for the Gusties.  After starting out looking very sharp and scoring an early goal they decided to lay an egg.

Embarrassing.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 06, 2013, 05:06:22 PM
Would have never seen that result coming after the way GAC has played so far this season.  SJU is a mediocre team at best and had no business hanging with the Gusties, but that's the way this fickle game can be.  GAC is still in the NCAA's so maybe this will help them to re-focus.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 06, 2013, 05:43:52 PM
Congrats to SJU, they obviously executed their game plan to perfection.  If GAC makes the NCAA tournament and plays the way they played today surely they will get beaten by 2 goals against whoever they play.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on November 06, 2013, 06:06:34 PM
worst scenario for gac:
carleton beats st oles and then loses to johnnies in penalties.
But no worries. carelton will play same defensive game and end up losing 3-0. hard to play defensive game on a small crappy field that is muddy on the corners and concrete in the middle. so looks like st olaf and gac to ncaa.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 06, 2013, 08:38:36 PM
Glad the Johnnies rejected the advice posted here about not getting off the bus ....

Not a pretty game to watch.  Despite the complaints about the SJU goals, the GAC score did not appear to be a thing of beauty .. were there really two assists there? From what I could see on my lousy office PC, the best goal was SJU's second. Coborn has a lot of quality (even if at times he tries to do too much) and picked out the guy for the header. Without replay though, it's hard to recall how loose the defense was.

As a fan, I would have preferred watching this game on an artificial surface even if it had favored the Gusties. Even so, I'm not sure the talent talent gap is as huge as the Gusties faithful want to believe. SJU has been pretty darn good the past 5 weeks.

SJU did exactly what it needed to do. Certainly GAC knew that was coming and there were ways to counter it. It just didn't.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 07, 2013, 12:30:37 AM
Quote from: keeker on November 06, 2013, 06:06:34 PM
worst scenario for gac:
carleton beats st oles and then loses to johnnies in penalties.
But no worries. carelton will play same defensive game and end up losing 3-0. hard to play defensive game on a small crappy field that is muddy on the corners and concrete in the middle. so looks like st olaf and gac to ncaa.

I don't think GAC should have much to worry about with getting into the NCAA's regardless of who wins the MIAC AQ(although I could be wrong). If years past are any indicator, SOS plays a very significant roll in the Pool C selections. With the 2nd best SOS in the region, and a pretty strong overall record, they should get in.

The way things seem to be shaking out in other conferences, GAC not getting the AQ maybe the only way the MIAC would have a shot at getting two teams into the tourney this year...

As for today's game, I thought GAC came out strong, scored a nice goal, and then seemed to think it was going to be a cake walk and took their foot off the gas. SJU's first goal was most certainly the result of poor defending in the box by GAC. The 2nd SJU goal, on the corner kick was pretty nice.

To SJU's credit, they fought back, took the lead and never gave GAC a good look at goal, despite playing a good majority of the 2nd half in their defensive end of the field. They executed the Johnnie-ball game plan to near perfection today. Old Man Haws is probably feeling pretty proud of his son's team. Lots of Johnnie's were "getting their hips dirty" today. 

I can only hope the Gusties take this in stride, learn from this game and use it to fuel a nice run in the NCAA's. I guess its better to drop a game now than next week...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 07, 2013, 09:03:18 AM
GAC is a lock, Gustiefan04 said all that's needed when he mentioned SOS.  Their SOS is very good and haven't been blown out by anyone.  This is what the committee wants, a team that is going to give any team out there a run and possibly a loss and GAC has shown they can do it (also shown they can get beat by St. Joans, I mean Johns). 
I also agree with repete that this match would have been much different on sport turf.  The ball seemed to be hopping, bopping, and bounding on every pass attempt.  I am aware that the conditions were less than ideal, but that is where sport turf shines.  The purists such as GG will always be natural grass proponents (what are you from St Olaf?) but sport turf is more than likely the future for team north of St Louis.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 07, 2013, 10:18:02 AM
repete,

If yesterday was your first time watching GAC play this season then certainly you would feel the talent gap between SJU and GAC isn't very big.  GAC played their worst game of the season at a poor time.  Hopefully they are able to rebound and win a few games in the NCAA tournament. 

Any word on whether or not you will be able to travel to the first round weekend (if they make it) gustiefan?  I am down for traveling just about anywhere in the midwest next weekend.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 07, 2013, 01:46:26 PM
Fair enough.

I've seen more of STO and Carleton in recent years. And I hope whatever teams the MIAC sends go far. But seems to me that SJU's apparent rep as low/no talent thugs is getting a bit out of date. They've broadened their recruiting base and over the past two seasons have beaten all of the league's elite at least once. (OK, the YCs yesterday hurt my case a bit.)

Nonetheless, I think if you play on grass in the Upper Midwest or anywhere with nasty late season weather, you've got to be able to call up the non-beautiful game when needed. And if you're an underdog defending a lead in a one-and-out, doubly so.

The only difference between the guy calling it "park the bus" and one "getting numbers back" is the one whose team is behind. Likewise, there's not that much difference between "getting your hips dirty" and that classic "great tackle" that just about any player can recall. But then I am old school. "Old Man" Haws' father was coaching (a national wrestling powerhouse) when I was in school.

I thought the post-game comments in the GAC and  SJU recaps were hilarious. Was Haws' doing a tongue in cheek impression of Middleton with his remarks? Does Middleton get paid by each use of "lad?"

Seriously, though, after watching some of the South Atlantic region teams play this season, it's going to rough ride for any team out of the North, including Loras. York and Salisbury are stacked. Messiah will be in the mix as well. Christopher Newport could be the best team that won't make postseason in the country. Maybe the filter of webcast vs. live is misleading, but the best teams I've seen out here in the South/Mid-Atlantic are a notch above.



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 07, 2013, 02:10:06 PM
It is hard not to have the same opinion about SJU that I had 10 years ago.  They hired the son of the former coach. I can't imagine they are very different in tactics (leading the league in yellows this season).  Coborn is the exception.  St. John's hasn't had a player with Coborns ability in a very long time.

I think the North region will fair just fine in the NCAA tournament.  The region has 4-5 teams that should be able to compete with just about anyone.  Hopefully the NCAA doesn't pair them all together in the first rounds of the tournament.  Also, I really hope the MIAC has a good showing.  Last year was poor.  St. Olaf or CarlEton needs to earn the AQ in order for the MIAC to have two teams that have the ability to make a run (at least Sweet 16). 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 07, 2013, 04:39:35 PM
Sure, SJU led in YCs this year, they've also had the one of the MIAC's cleanest recent conference seasons (3) under the new Haws in 2010.

Would love to see a North team, preferably an MIAC side, go deep into the tournament. Well, maybe not UST.

It's too bad there's not more inter-regional play. This just seems to be a very up year in the Mid/South Atlantic regions. Part of the reason was the sudden dropping of two decent DI programs (Towson and Mt. St. Mary's) in the heart of these two regions. Even if schools didn't directly benefit, the ripples went deep, affecting even the local non-scholarship JC, which was good to stay level with George Washington's varsity into the 86th minute. 

Everyone knows Messiah from the Mid-Atlantic, but Salisbury is a monster program and York, which is basically North Baltimore, are programs on the upswing and playing at very high levels. CNU won its league last year before joining the CAC. Even Frostburg would be a contender in most leagues. I could well be proven wrong, but having seen them play and knowing some of the personnel, they are very, very strong. (Disclaimer: I don't have and never had a kid at any of them.)

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 07, 2013, 05:02:12 PM
Congrats to CarlEton on beating St. Olaf today.  Great to know that the final wonbe played on the St. Olaf field.  I only saw about 5 minutes of the game and I am interested to hear how the game played out.  If CarlEton can do everyone a favor and win tomorrow in regular time that would be fantastic.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 07, 2013, 05:54:11 PM
Caught about 15 minutes of the game. Couldn't get too much of a read on how it was going. Rosenthal didn't score though - weird for him am I right?  ;D Carleton ends Olaf's season 2 years in row.

I'm not going to complain about how Carleton gets no respect from people on these boards. It is to be noted that GG is a voice of reason. Sure they haven't had the best post-season runs the past 6 years but they've been there every time, just saying. I know they might not be the prettiest team (although Bartholomay is quite the looker), they get it done.

Looking forward to the nice field and great camera work at Carleton on Saturday.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 07, 2013, 06:52:06 PM
"Rosenthal will be deadly for Carleton today - mark my words. I suppose even if he isn't one of the Lund's or Skrip will tear them apart anyway."

Lolz  :) Good call.

Great to be back on an actual soccer field again.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 07, 2013, 10:19:57 PM
GG, game was pretty even during the first half. Olaf had the better of the play in the opening 20-25 minutes, with Rosenthal having a really good chance inside 90 seconds but he flashed his shot wide. Then Carleton dominated the final 20 mins. The Olaf keeper stood on his head with some remarkable saves to keep it 0-0 into half.

McGarrity scores six minutes into half from just outside the 18, and the Knights continue to look for a second but miss a few chances that probably would have put the game away. Oles pressed for an equalizer for the rest of the game but didn't have any real chances that troubled Neher in goal. 1-0 was definitely a fair result, and easily could have been 4 or 5 if it wasn't for the keeper having the game of his life.

Let's see how the Knights respond with a day's rest, assuming the game will still be played on Saturday.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 07, 2013, 11:38:37 PM
Is there an HD feed from Northfield? I was able to stream a Carleton FB game via Chromecast to the big screen earlier this fall and it was easily the best quality video I've seen in the MIAC.  But if the Johnnies allow 26 shots as they did  in the earlier tie, it might not be all that pretty.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 08, 2013, 02:22:46 AM
Excuses, excuses...I can't believe that an offense that was head and shoulders better than the Carleton backline falls to pieces when one player is gone  :-*

Guess things don't look so good next year when they all leave...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: jimmy92 on November 08, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Nope. Tough times ahead for the Oles.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 08, 2013, 12:44:30 PM
Predictions for tomorrows final?

CarlEton 2 SJU 0
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 08, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
In terms of the HD feed, I'm sure Carleton will broadcast it in HD. Last year for the playoffs they had two cameras going too. One field level, one at the top of the hill.

Gotta agree with you GG 2-0 Carls.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 08, 2013, 01:58:10 PM
Why? Is the lethal Olaf attack going to be playing again?

As for teams that are actually playing...

Carleton 2
St. JOhn's 1
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 08, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
Unless he is hiding donuts in his pockets I am guessing you will see his hands.  Whether or not his hands will be used to make saves is another question.  :P
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 09, 2013, 04:00:38 PM
Carleton win 2-1 to grab the AQ. Great game for the Knights. Also, great video coverage by the Carleton Sports information department.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: cowlingluver on November 09, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
the miac bores us.

-Carleton.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 09, 2013, 05:50:15 PM
Congrats to Carleton on the AQ and best luck to the Knights and, I assume, GAC in the NCAAs. Hope both go far.

I thought when Coborn could not convert with 3 minutes left  in the first that it would be a long day for SJU, but they hung in there and very easily could have pulled level late with the header cleared off the line. Overall, Knights were better tactical and technically, but not the gap I expected. SJU only started two senior field players, which should help cover the loss of Coborn as they aim for their third straight MIAC playoffs.

Wonderful webcast and decent audio, especially when compared to the Utica-Stevens cast that is going on right now. Stevens' commentary is brutal ... don't need to hear about the play-by-play announcer's youth team number switch. And the physicality would probably have certain posters here wetting their pants.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 10, 2013, 05:34:56 PM
Congrats to carleton on a nice MIAC Playoff championship! Hopefully GAC can snag one of the Pool C bids. Seems like there were a lot of #1 seeds didn't win the AQ's.


What time is the official bid announcement?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 10, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
The broadcast is at 12 pm CST. Here's the link: http://www.ncaa.com/liveschedule/2013/11/11

Carleton gets the AQ. GAC should almost certainly be one of the Pool C bids. Could Olaf be a bubble team? Not too many upsets on Saturday/Sunday, but maybe just enough to where they just miss out on a place. And if CAR/GAC advance from the first round, hopefully it wouldn't be like last year where they would have played each other...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 10, 2013, 09:27:40 PM
Unfortunately I don't think St Olaf will make it in.  Ironically I believe Luther will be the team that keeps them out. 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: futbol17 on November 10, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
I agree with you Kickin....Pretty sure Luther is gonna sneak in also, probably one of the reasons Olaf will be left out.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Thunder1 on November 10, 2013, 10:46:56 PM
I think Luther is in as well. Strength of sched and record against ranked teams. Check out the d3soccer.com analysis here:

http://www.d3soccer.com/columns/around-the-nation/2013/at-large-analysis-and-predictions
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 11, 2013, 01:13:38 PM
GAC hosting CSS, CarlEton, and Westminster (Mo).

GAC vs. CSS, love the matchup, GAC has a great chance to redeem themselves from a loss in Duluth earlier this year.

CarlEton vs. Westminster (Mo.).  I know nothing of Westminster except they lost three consecutive games 4-0 this season. 

Predictions:

GAC 2 CSS 0: Host team gets tougher draw.  Strange.  GAC gets revenge to setup a MIAC matchup in round 2.

CarlEton 3 Westminster 1: CarlEton can't exit it the tournament to another team slightly above .500 can they?

GAC 2 CarlEton 1: Same score as earlier in the season.


If both MIAC teams lose their first game I will retire from this message board.  Last year was miserable.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 01:21:47 PM
Great Pairing for the MIAC teams. Now they need to take care of business in the first round to setup the rematch...Regular Season Champs vs. MIAC Playoff Champs.

I believe Westminster is out of the SLIAC, which is traditionally a weak conference. But at this stage, you can't overlook any opponents.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 11, 2013, 01:38:35 PM
Well GG if this go well for our teams it looks as if we could be meeting up possibly in Dbq!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 11, 2013, 01:42:03 PM
That is what I am hoping...  No counting chickens before they're hatched in any game for any team in the NCAA tournament.  I like the GAC is hosting, the crappy thing for GAC is they aren't playing their best right now.  Hopefully the loss to SJU will give them a kick in the pants for the remainder of the season (whether it is one game or six).
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 11, 2013, 01:49:12 PM
Definitely anyone's game come tourney time. GAC will need to bring it to redeem themselves vs CSS. And having to potentially face CarlEton a 2nd time, will not be an easy task either.

At 11-8-1 and results like a 4-0 loses to Wash U and Simpson. I have to think CarlEton is the heavy favorite in this match up.

I'm hoping the lose to SJU last week was just the wake up call the Gusties needed to turn things up a notch for the NCAA's.

If GAC can get through this coming weekend, i'm definitely planning a little road trip for the Sweet 16...



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 11, 2013, 04:43:16 PM
While CSS appears to be a team that can hang with/occasionally beat top teams in the region, it's overall a pretty soft draw for the MIAC's pair. But other than UWS, CSS hasn't played a decent side since early September.

Should very well be a trip to the third round for one MIAC team.

Much easier route than the potential 2nd round matchups of No. 7 York vs. No. 4 Stevens or No. 1 Messiah vs. No. 9 Salisbury.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 11, 2013, 11:25:51 PM
Times finally released for the GAC regional this weekend:

Carleton-Westminster (MO): 10 am
GAC-St. Scholastica: 12:30 pm

GG, you think given the fact that GAC is hosting means that they are higher ranked than CArleton? Seems like the draw and who is hosting send some mixed signals. Or maybe it has something to do with GAC winning the head to head. Puzzling...

Should be a relatively straightforward first match for the Knights. But after last year I'm pretty hopeful complacency doesn't creep in. Did not see them playing a team from Mizzou in the first round, but a lack of central teams probably left the committee with no other choice. That's gotta be a long bus ride to St. Peter for the Blue Jays. I'll say 3-1 Knights.

GAC/CSS should be a dogfight. GAC will have had a week and a half to steam over that SJU loss, and now hosting a regional AND playing a team they have already lost to (albeit 1-0), you gotta imagine they'll be flying out of the gate in this one. CSS haven't played anyone decent outside of UW-Superior in the last 6-8 weeks. You wonder what an early goal (or the first goal for that matter) would do on GAC's confidence. CSS can be dangerous offensively, but I think GAC pulls it out. 2-1 Gusties.

If all goes to plan...

Carleton 2 GAC 1. Knights conjure some Voorhees 30-yard laser magic and beat the Gusties again in St. Peter. Carleton are miles better than they were when the two teams played in Sept, but still should be a cracking game. It'll be a shame if these teams can't meet at this stage like last year.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 12, 2013, 09:01:01 AM
I think the Mizzou team is going to get off the bus and make a little boom boom in their kits as soon as that arctic blast slaps them in their cheeks! Forecast is for 46 degrees saturday, but that will be more like 35 to 40 if there is even a sniff of wind.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 12, 2013, 10:36:56 AM
I am confused as to why GAC is hosting and has the tougher match.  I don't think the NCAA did a very good job for the mens or womens brackets.  I am bored by the conferences and regional opponents playing eachother in the first couple of rounds.  Maybe the NCAA should go back to 4 Pool C bids and let teams travel early on instead of letting 6 loss teams squeak into the tournament and play their next door neighbor.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 12, 2013, 11:12:36 AM
There's some validity to that point.  If the NCAA is so worried about saving money when it comes to DIII (because they seem to be more than happy to piss millions away at the DI level), then don't allow so many teams in that will be playing against their own conference in the first 2 rounds of the NCAA tourney.  I don't have a problem with in region matchups i.e. Loras v GAC possibilities, but I do think the fact that Loras could also possibly be playing their first match against an in conference team (Luther) and then have the chance of playing Wartburg in the Elite 8?  I know these are all "if's", but come on both in conference teams in the same bracket really?  Spread these guys out and give them a reward for making the tourney, let them play outside their conference and if possible their region.

Here is another side topic: If the NCAA is so penny conscience now about DIII what are they going to do when DI football and basketball players sue and more than likely win for the right to be paid?  The NCAA has profited handsomely off these players likenesses and person intellectual property in regards to video games, jerseys, posters, and bobble head for years and years.  I know the players get "paid" with a free education, but many with full rides still have trouble paying bills and making ends meet all the while the NCAA is raking in tens if not hundreds of millions of dollar from these players names.   
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: ldahoSoccer on November 12, 2013, 11:35:15 AM
Quote from: KICKIN95 on November 12, 2013, 11:12:36 AM


Here is another side topic: If the NCAA is so penny conscience now about DIII what are they going to do when DI football and basketball players sue and more than likely win for the right to be paid? 

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/11/11/mixed-ruling-athletes-likeness-lawsuit-against-ncaa

The process has already begun. 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 15, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
http://miacathletics.com/sports/msoc/2013-14/releases/111413_msoc_awards

MIAC awards attached.

COY- Middleton (GAC)
POY - Brown (GAC)

No surprises there.

All-conference teams:

Claudio Barboza  St. Olaf  So.  M  Maracaibo, Venezuela / UWC-USA, Liceo Los Robles   
Neil Bartholomay  Carleton  Sr.   D  St. Paul, Minn. / Cretin-Derham Hall 
Zach Brown  Gustavus  Jr.   F  Eau Claire, Wis. / Memorial 
Michael Coborn  Saint John's  Sr.  M  St. Cloud, Minn. / Cathedral 
Will Corcoran  Carleton  Sr.  M  Mahtomedi, Minn. 
Cole Erickson  Macalester  Jr.  D  Bloomington, Minn. / Jefferson 
Stephen Johnson  St. Olaf  Sr.  D  Apple Valley, Minn. 
David Lilly  Gustavus  Jr.   M  Maple Grove, Minn.   
Mackenzie Lund  St. Olaf  Sr.  F Hudson, Wis. 
Clayton Lynch  Augsburg  Sr.   GK  Cedar Rapids, Iowa / Xavier 
Branden McGarrity  Carleton  So.  F  Glenview, Ill. / Glenbrook South 
Nick Rapisarda  St. Thomas  Sr.  F  Green Bay, Wis. / Notre Dame 
Zach Schmith  Gustavus  Sr.  D  Sioux Falls, S.D. / Washington 
Sean Sendelbach  Gustavus  Sr.  M  Sioux Falls, S.D. / Lincoln 
Kevin Skrip  St. Olaf  So.  M Naperville, Ill. / Neuqua Valley 
Miles Stockman-Willis    St. Thomas    So.  F Woodbury. Minn. / Hill-Murray 
Cody Walkup  Bethel  Sr.  D  Des Moines, Iowa / Johnston 
David Wee  Saint John's  Jr.  M  Savage, Minn. / Prior Lake 
Brett Wegleitner  Concordia  Sr.   D  Coeur d'Alene, Idaho / Desert Ridge 
Brett Ylonen  Gustavus  Jr.  GK  Lake Elmo, Minn. / Stillwater 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2013 MIAC MEN'S SOCCER ALL-CONFERENCE HONORABLE MENTION

Name School Year Pos. Hometown/Previous School
Charlie Adams  Gustavus  So.  M  Stillwater, Minn. 
Ryan Bernhardt  St. Thomas  So.  MF Madison, Wis./West   
Ben Braman  St. Olaf  Fr.  GK  St. Paul, Minn. / St. Paul Academy 
Fernando Camacho  Saint Mary's  So.  D  Chicago, Ill. / East Leyden 
Trent Elmore  Carleton  So.  M/D  Bloomington, Ind. / Phillips Exeter Academy 
Robin Forslund  Macalester  Sr.  MF  Madison, Wis. / Memorial 
Gilbert Ghong  Hamline  Jr.  F  Beamenda, Cameroon / GBHS Beamenda 
Ben Henry  Augsburg  Fr.  MF  Manitowoc, Wis. / Lincoln 
Kevin Lebahn  Saint John's  So.  GK  New Hope, Minn. / Benilde-St. Margaret's   
Paul Lund  Macalester  Sr.  D  Madison, Wis. / West
Tanner McCarthy  Augsburg  Jr.  MF  Windsor Heights, Iowa / Dowling Catholic 
Michael Murphy  Hamline  Sr.  D  Mahtomedi, Minn.
Alex Niederloh  Saint John's  So.  M  Maple Grove, Minn. 
Jake Neimann  Hamline  So.  MF  Hastings, Minn.
Zach Palma  Saint Mary's  Sr.  M  Washburn, Wis. 
Matthew Pisarski
Bethel  Jr.  M  West Des Moines, Iowa / Valley 
Alan Schembri-Wismayer    Macalester  Fr.  MF  Rochester, Minn. / Lourdes 
Ryan Tollefsrud  Gustavus  Jr.  F  Spearfish, S.D. 
Robert Tomecek  Macalester  Fr.  D  Lisle, Ill. / Benet Academy 
Sage Thornbrugh  Concordia  Fr.  M  Vilseck, Germany 
Kit Weaver  St. Thomas    Sr.  D 
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
Of the players selected here are my predictions at all-region and all-american.

All-region:

Bartholomay - CarlEton 1st team
McGarrity - CarlEton 2nd team (possibly 1st team)
Corcoran - CarlEton 3rd team

Coborn - SJU 3rd team

Lynch - Augsburg 3rd team

Mackenzie Lund - St. Olaf 2nd team

Rapisarda - UST 3rd team
Stockman-Willis - UST 3rd team

Brown - GAC 1st team
Lilly - GAC 1st team
Ylonen - GAC 2nd team

All-American:

Bartholomay - CarlEton 3rd team
Brown - GAC 2nd team
Lilly - GAC 3rd team




Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 15, 2013, 11:35:52 AM
Watched the D3JC quarterfinals yesterday and saw Century was there. Despite growing up in Minny, I'd never heard of them so I checked them out and saw they played the GAC reserves. (Pretty horrible side with a number of Aussies ... they could have lost by twice the 4-0 score.)

Got me wondering about the MIAC. Who do teams play in preseason and spring to stretch themselves with no d2/d1 competition in the region?  Seems to be pretty common for teams here to schedule up  for at least some of their exhibitions.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 15, 2013, 11:43:21 AM
Pre-season games really vary from team-to-team.

GAC played against St. Thomas as well as USF (University of Sioux Falls NAIA) this past season.  I know that a lot of teams (St. Olaf, Hamline, etc.) play one of their games against MASL Division 1 (Minnesota Amateur Soccer League) opposition.  The MASL usually consists of former D3, D2, D1, and professional players so it is a pretty good level of play.  I believe Augsburg played against the Minnesota United reserves (pro-team NASL) this past season.

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 15, 2013, 01:36:26 PM
Not too bad. Would hate to be Concordia. Good men's open leagues aren't bad ... if the have 90-minute fitness. Tough to scrimmage a team you'll see in the season. Herkimer,  the NY team that will likely win the d3 juco, usually beats the Utica first team (No. 2 in Empire 8) and loses to Syracuse.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: Cheesehead Henry on November 16, 2013, 12:08:10 AM
Quote from: futbol17 on November 10, 2013, 09:42:10 PM
I agree with you Kickin....Pretty sure Luther is gonna sneak in also, probably one of the reasons Olaf will be left out.

Interesting prediction futbol17. You were right! Good call!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 12:00:10 PM
Stretch Internet for GAC doesn't have the soccer matches listed?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
I'm finding the same thing...i'm going to call the SID.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 12:16:27 PM
its up now.

Click on the live events tab...its defaulting to the on demand tab.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 12:19:48 PM
wow i feel a bit dumb for not catching that! :(
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 12:23:54 PM
same!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
Some of these CSS players have absolutely gaudy statistics....

http://csssaints.com/cumestats.aspx?path=msoc&year=2013

Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
That was a make up call for the other foul at tge corner of the box
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KICKIN95 on November 16, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
Gusties tie it up!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2013, 01:50:06 PM

I have been watching Live Stats.... some generous soul please link me up here!
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 01:52:21 PM
http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/gac.portal#
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2013, 01:54:41 PM

Same boat as you guys... who would think to click on Live Events.    Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumbbbb
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 16, 2013, 02:04:10 PM

Great ball there...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 02:08:01 PM
YEEESSS! Great Stuff on the 2nd goal.

Now rest up, going to be another tough match tomorrow. Hopefully Brown is alright.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: PaulNewman on November 16, 2013, 02:32:02 PM
Congrats gustiefan.  That was a tight one.  And that was a great pass and goal to end a game on.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 16, 2013, 04:49:18 PM
That was an ugly one for the knights. Two years in a row with early exits.

Good luck to GAC. they should be able to take care of business tomorrow
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
Not the result I was expecting from the CarlE's. Disappointing. Hopefully GAC can fair better against Westminster that the knights. A trip to the sweet 16 would sure be nice.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on November 17, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
Not the result I was expecting from the CarlE's. Disappointing. Hopefully GAC can fair better against Westminster that the knights. A trip to the sweet 16 would sure be nice.
Surprised but not surprised. Carlton so disappointing... Totally out muscled and hustled by a team that's barely better than my girls u10 AYSo team. Who coaches carleton clowns... I told you clowns not to let 4 left feet play center mids. and since when mcgrity play midfield? oh wait, he just has no clue how to play fw. Watch zach tomorrow buddy and learn. outside mids don't know how to play outside mids and a play maker that has 4 reverse and 1 sideway moves... how did you win so many games? Oh yeah, cornells and northwestern types... soooo disappointing. I shook my head in disgust. absolutely shameful. Waste of trip to petersburg. Miac champs my as$. Well at least Gustavus will redeem for Miac tomorrow. Gusties 4-0 and ZB with a hat trick.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on November 17, 2013, 12:56:08 PM
I get the rage Keeker, but most of what you're saying is ridiculous. Let's break it down:

McGarrity doesn't know how to play forward:

Let's just overlook the fact that he's second in MIAC scoring (above ZB). Sure he's scored against some not so great teams, but he has goals against GAC, Olaf, Luther, Mac, and a two-assist game against Augsburg just to highlight some of the bigger games. Zach Brown is a great forward, and he deserves his MIAC POY award, but to say that ZB is model for all forwards is misguided at best. (And from what it looked like yesterday, Brown might not even play in today's game since he didn't come back for the CSS second half).

And really...you're just gonna say that you get to 15-3-3 by playing the Cornell's and Northwestern types? Just do some research and Carleton's SOS is one of the stronger ones in the North region, even above GAC's SOS (.586 vs .578). I don't hear anyone saying that GAC played joke teams to get here, and the reason why is because it's NOT TRUE. GAC lost when it mattered in the conference semis, but it was down to a bad performance, not them coasting through the season on bad teams. But any time Carleton loses it seems that the team is bad and that they have no talent??? You must have some bad luck watching Carleton, cause all we hear from you is just how eternally bad they are/will be.

Neglect the MIAC titles and/or playoff champs for 6 out of the 7 seasons too, cause no bad team could ever do that right?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 17, 2013, 03:02:52 PM
GAC down 1-0.

Playing without Zach Brown, rib injury and Sean Sendlebach, head injury. 2 First Team All-MIAC players...

Hope we can pick it up here and get an equalizer.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 17, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Forget this game. Could somebody post some vid of that U 10 AYSO side?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: BradleyFan001 on November 17, 2013, 03:36:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkBDLMWXpZg
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: gustiefan04 on November 17, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
1-0 Final. Congrats to Westminster. Probably the last team anyone expected to advance from this group...
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 17, 2013, 04:34:47 PM
Gac played poorly the last couple weeks of the season. Uninspiring play all weekend. I will send a more detailed recap tomorrow when I'm not typing on an iPad. Awful stuff though. Congrats to Westminster, their keeper played flawless today when called upon. These MIAC teams have shown almost no grit in the ncaa tournament the past handful of years. Loras will crush in the sweet 16. Another very poor showing for the miac. It might be that time for me to hang up the message board boots after the past two seasons of excellent regular seasons followed up by a "we are just happy to be here" mentality in one and done games.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: carletonsid on November 17, 2013, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: keeker on November 17, 2013, 02:01:31 AM
Quote from: gustiefan04 on November 16, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
Not the result I was expecting from the CarlE's. Disappointing. Hopefully GAC can fair better against Westminster that the knights. A trip to the sweet 16 would sure be nice.
Surprised but not surprised. Carlton so disappointing... Totally out muscled and hustled by a team that's barely better than my girls u10 AYSo team. Who coaches carleton clowns... I told you clowns not to let 4 left feet play center mids. and since when mcgrity play midfield? oh wait, he just has no clue how to play fw. Watch zach tomorrow buddy and learn. outside mids don't know how to play outside mids and a play maker that has 4 reverse and 1 sideway moves... how did you win so many games? Oh yeah, cornells and northwestern types... soooo disappointing. I shook my head in disgust. absolutely shameful. Waste of trip to petersburg. Miac champs my as$. Well at least Gustavus will redeem for Miac tomorrow. Gusties 4-0 and ZB with a hat trick.

I enjoy reading these boards and what people have to say about the action on the pitch. This comment, though, is out of bounds (although one has to wonder your state at 2 a.m.).

Should I be writing the same stuff about the Gustavus coaching staff now after that tough 1-0 loss? Hardly - GAC went undefeated in conference (no small feat) and just didn't have their best today + ran into a hot keeper, just like Carleton yesterday. No need to resort to cutting the other team down and disrespecting the coaching staff or players. Totally uncalled for and thoroughly disgusting, and certainly not indicative of the Gustavus fan base.

Carleton was the MIAC Playoff champ - the Knights EARNED that title last week. Should we sully GAC's unblemished MIAC slate just because they lost to supposed lesser foe, on home ground no less (oh, and I'm sure you'll trot out the injury excuses here)? Well, if healthy they were four goals better than WC, at the very least they could have gutted out a 1-0 or 2-0 decision.

Maybe we should set up a match with your girls u10 AYSo and WC, just to make sure.

Haters gonna hate, as the kids say...



Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on November 17, 2013, 05:21:57 PM
Keeker isn't a Gustavus fan, he just trolls CarlEton non stop. I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into what he has to say. I suppose you've just run across his last message and assumed he was a gac fan which is unfortunate. As for Carlie's... It's great that they've done so well in conference play the last few years but they have truly been poor in their showings in the ncaa tournament, as has all of the miac for the last 5 seasons.

To say that injuries didn't play a factor in today's game would be an understatement. As for the GAC coaching staff, I wouldn't want another coach in the conference running my team. Funny for a SID to jump on the board and do their own trolling assuming that keeker is a GAC fan though. This is a message board where people throw out some decent game recaps or team analysis and then there are people like keeker or cowlingluvr (and the carletonsid for that matter) that find an opportune time to chime in and take a cheep shot or be a smart ass.  If you take a shot at a team and you are a regular contributor with a little bit of knowledge so be it, you may eat crow time to time (but you're still there to take it). Why not contribute more carlEtonsid instead of jump on the message board late with the why is everyone picking on me mentality?
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: keeker on November 17, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
Westminster coach is less than half the age of carleton and gac head coaches.
You guys know why some d3 schools give head coaching jobs to someone barely old enough to
drink legally? And you guys know what it takes to take a team of crappy players that you didnt recruit to beat two "power house" teams from the mighty miac
on consecutive days? Just cause you say lad in every other sentence doesnt mean you know soccer. I was wrong, I admit.
I thought the gusties would learn from the carls. Completely and thouroughly out coached.  hats off to andrew and the blue jays.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: carletonsid on November 17, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on November 17, 2013, 05:21:57 PM
Keeker isn't a Gustavus fan, he just trolls CarlEton non stop. I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into what he has to say. I suppose you've just run across his last message and assumed he was a gac fan which is unfortunate. As for Carlie's... It's great that they've done so well in conference play the last few years but they have truly been poor in their showings in the ncaa tournament, as has all of the miac for the last 5 seasons.

To say that injuries didn't play a factor in today's game would be an understatement. As for the GAC coaching staff, I wouldn't want another coach in the conference running my team. Funny for a SID to jump on the board and do their own trolling assuming that keeker is a GAC fan though. This is a message board where people throw out some decent game recaps or team analysis and then there are people like keeker or cowlingluvr (and the carletonsid for that matter) that find an opportune time to chime in and take a cheep shot or be a smart ass.  If you take a shot at a team and you are a regular contributor with a little bit of knowledge so be it, you may eat crow time to time (but you're still there to take it). Why not contribute more carlEtonsid instead of jump on the message board late with the why is everyone picking on me mentality?

GG - My bad lumping keeker in with the Gustie camp. Also, I'm the former CarletonSID, just so everyone is clear on identity.  :P

Keep up the insightful analysis, GG - I don't know a lot about soccer (hence by propensity to lurk here - know more about hoops) so I rely on the rest of you to break it down for us fans who just enjoy watching our teams compete.

I do know a decent amount about good coaching, and I think both the GAC and Carleton faithful are very happy with their respective coaches and results. I know both teams wanted desperately to make amends for last year's NCAA showing, and perhaps that's the reason they didn't play very well this past weekend--wanting it too much can lead to less-than-peak performances. For me, at least, if the worst worry about our men's soccer program is that they've not advanced in the NCAA Tourney, that's a pretty good problem to have.

Good luck to WC moving forward.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: repete on November 17, 2013, 06:53:52 PM
Westminister outhustled both MIAC teams. Look how many 50-50s that they beat GAC to.

I don't see the number of games the regulars here apparently do, but GAC didn't seem to show any sense of urgency until they were behind in either game. Almost arrogant in the way they stuck with their style and didn't take what Westminster was giving them. They also seem to be bothered when they got nicked on physical confrontations.
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: GarbageGoals33 on December 09, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: GarbageGoals33 on November 15, 2013, 10:44:14 AM
Of the players selected here are my predictions at all-region and all-american.

All-region:

Bartholomay - CarlEton 1st team
McGarrity - CarlEton 2nd team (possibly 1st team)
Corcoran - CarlEton 3rd team

Coborn - SJU 3rd team

Lynch - Augsburg 3rd team

Mackenzie Lund - St. Olaf 2nd team

Rapisarda - UST 3rd team
Stockman-Willis - UST 3rd team

Brown - GAC 1st team
Lilly - GAC 1st team
Ylonen - GAC 2nd team

All-American:

Bartholomay - CarlEton 3rd team
Brown - GAC 2nd team
Lilly - GAC 3rd team

http://www.nscaa.com/news/2013/12/2013-nscaa-continental-tire-ncaa-division-iii-men-s-all-north-region

Looks like I correctly picked all 11 players from the MIAC that were all-region this year.  I missed which team a few of them were on though.

1st team:

Ylonen - GAC
Brown - GAC
Bartholomay - CAR
McGarrity - CAR

2nd team:

Lynch - AUG
Coborn - SJU
Corcoran - CAR
Lund - STO

3rd team:

Lilly - GAC
Rapisarda - UST
Stockman-Willis - UST
Title: Re: MIAC 2013
Post by: KnightRider23 on December 28, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
A little late, but congratulations to Carleton defender Neil Bartholomay on another NSCAA All-American award this season. Him and Zach Brown were likely the most deserving MIAC players to get the award IMO. Bartho will be a big miss on the Carleton back line next year...