First conference tourney is officially set, and that is the NESCAC who's conference season ended today. First round is next Saturday the 22nd at highest seed; semifinals and finals is Saturday March 1 & Sunday March 2 at the highest remaining seed remaining after the quarters.
NESCAC officially set:
#6 Hamilton (14-10, 5-5) (77)
@ 2/22 1 PM
#3 Middlebury (16-8, 6-4) (81)
#7 Tufts (13-11, 4-6) (77)
@ 2/22 3 PM
#2 Williams (21-3, 9-1) (87 [overtime])
#5 Trinity (14-10, 5-5) (71)
@ 2/22 4 PM
#4 Bowdoin (19-4, 6-4) (67. [3 overtime])
#8 Colby (14-10, 4-6) (72)
@ 2/22 4 PM
#1 Amherst (21-3, 9-1) (82)
#3 Middlebury (17-8, 6-4) (75)
vs. 3/1 4 PM (@ Amherst)
#2 Williams (22-3, 9-1) (78)
#5 Trinity (15-10, 5-5) (62)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#1 Amherst (22-3, 9-1) (80)
#2 Williams (23-3, 9-1) (82)
@ 3/2 12 PM
#1 Amherst (23-3, 9-1) (93)
Williams is a tourney lock. Bowdoin and Middlebury likely won't be making it.
Game times TBA at the moment.
Little East:
Eastern Connecticut is locked in at #1 and Rhode island College is locked in at #2. Depending on results Tuesday, the field could be set for the LEC tournament following Tuesday results.
First round is Tuesday, February 22 at the highest seed; semi's and finals are Friday-Saturday February 28-March 1 at the highest remaining seed remaining after the quarters.
Boston loses to USM 63-65 to officially clinch the 8 seed. They will be traveling to 1st seeded Eastern Connecticut next Tuesday night.
Dartmouth beats RIC 85-73 to clinch no worse than 4th which means a first round home game; with an Eastern win over Western Connecticut tomorrow, Dartmouth would officially be locked in at 3.
Eastern's win over Western locks Dartmouth in as the 3 seed so now half of the LEC field is set with the other 4 spots up for grabs on the final Saturday.
Plymouth State will be playing Western Connecticut in the 4/5 game it's just a matter of which team is home and which one has to go on the road.
Edit: on second thought I have been overruled, Dartmouth isn't officially locked in at #3 yet. If all 3 of Plymouth/Western/and Dartmouth finish tied at 8-6, Western wins the tiebreaker because they'd have a superior winning percentage. Western would be 3-1 vs. those 2; Dartmouth would be 2-2, and Plymouth 1-3. So, in the 3 way tie at 8-6, it would be Western 3rd, Dartmouth 4th, Plymouth 5th (Dartmouth own the tiebreaker on Plymouth because they split with Western whereas Plymouth got swept). Dartmouth has still clinched a home quarterfinal game, and Plymouth still can only finish as high as 4th.
Official LEC tournament:
#6 Keene State (8-16, 5-9) (68)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#3 UMass-Dartmouth (15-10, 8-6) (81)
#7 Southern Maine (7-18, 3-11) (66)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#2 Rhode Island College (17-8, 11-3) (74)
#8 UMass-Boston (6-19, 0-14) (55)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#1 Eastern Connecticut (20-5, 14-0) (61)
#5 Plymouth State (13-12, 7-7) (60)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#4 Western Connecticut (16-8, 8-6) (61)
#2 Rhode Island College (18-8, 11-3) (82)
vs. 2/28 7:30 PM (@ Eastern Connecticut)
#3 UMass-Dartmouth (16-10, 8-6) (69)
#4 Western Connecticut (17-8, 8-6) (75)
@ 2/28 5:30 PM
#1 Eastern Connecticut (21-5, 14-0) (88)
#2 Rhode Island College (19-8, 11-3) (70)
@ 3/1 5 PM
#1 Eastern Connecticut (22-5, 14-0) (61)
LEC grabs a second bid as I think Eastern is still fairly safe.
I'll update tomorrow with the times, but I'm pretty sure it's 5:30 & 7:30. Eastern/Western will be the first game whether that's at 5:30 or 6 is up in the air.
Pool C notes to watch: Eastern Connecticut was #4 in the New England region, RIC was #9. Eastern is probably in the NCAAs whether they win the tournament or not, so if you root for a team on the bubble, Eastern is your favorite team in the LEC this coming week. The other 7 teams, including RIC, their only entry into the NCAAs is by winning the LEC. LEC is a 1 bid league if Eastern wins the tourney, it becomes a 2 bid league if they lose.
American Southwest. All games will take place @ #1 seed Texas-Dallas
#2 Hardin-Simmons (17-8, 17-5) (88)
vs. 2/28 3:30 PM (@ Texas-Dallas)
#7 Sul Ross State (11-14, 10-12) (74)
#4 Concordia (TX) (16-9, 13-9) (86)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Texas-Dallas)
#5 Texas-Tyler (14-11, 13-9) (104)
#3 Mary Hardin Baylor (17-8, 15-7) (71)
vs. 2/28 1 PM (@ Texas-Dallas)
#6 Louisiana College (11-13, 11-11) (81)
#8 East Texas Baptist (11-14, 9-13) (65)
@ 2/28 8:30 PM
#1 Texas-Dallas (22-3, 20-2) (80)
#2 Hardin-Simmons (18-8, 17-5) (93)
vs. 3/1 2 PM (@ Texas-Dallas)
#6 Louisiana College (12-13, 11-11) (83)
#5 Texas-Tyler (15-11, 13-9) (83)
@ 3/1 4:30 PM
#1 Texas-Dallas (23-3, 20-2) (103)
#2 Hardin-Simmons (19-8, 17-5) (69)
@ 3/2 3 PM
#1 Texas-Dallas (24-3, 20-2) (78)
Probably only a 1 bid league
I think it makes sense to have a new topic this time around.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 16, 2014, 10:07:03 PM
I think it makes sense to have a new topic this time around.
Thanks Pat!
Here's an official list to keep track:
AMCC:
American Southwest
Capital Athletic
Centennial
CUNYAC
CCIW
CSAC
Commonwealth Coast:
Empire 8
GNAC
Heartland
Iowa IAC
Landmark
Liberty
Little East
MASCAC
MIAA
Commonwealth
Freedom
Midwest
Minnesota IAC
NEWMAC
NECC
NJAC
NESCAC
North Atlantic
North Coast
North Eastern
Northern Athletics
Northwest
Ohio Athletic
ODAC
Presidents Athletic
Skyline
SAA (Still pool B I believe??) Someone correct me if I'm wrong
SCIAC
SCAC
SLIAC
SUYNAC
Upper Midwest
USA South
WIAC
That should cover them all as Great South no longer supports men's basketball and obviously the UAA has no conference tournament. If I missed one please let me know. If there's regulars for one of these conferences, feel free to update if you wish, and I'll take care of any stragglers.
Indeed, the SAA is still Pool B this year and should get its automatic bid in 2014-15.
SAA is still Pool B for this season... they will have a tournament and a champion... but they are then up for Pool B... that being said, Centre has Pool B all but locked up. The rest will enter Pool C.
(That was written as Pat was writing...)
The WIAC still has two rounds to go but it looks like Stevens Point has the #1 seed wrapped up with Whitewater #2.
La Crosse, Platteville, Stout and Oshkosh are battling for position of the last four spots (#1 and #2 get 1st round byes) with Superior another two games back.
In the HCAC with 2 match-days left, the tournament is fairly set, just a matter of who will play who.
Rose Hulman and Defiance should get the byes with Rose a game up for the top seed + host semis/finals
Hanover and Mt St Joseph should be 3/4 and will host opening round games
Franklin and Transylvania should be 5/6 and will be on the road in the opening games
With two games remaining, not much has been settled in the North Coast. Wooster and Ohio Wesleyan will probably be the top two seeds, with Wooster very likely being the #1 and, should they win their quarterfinal match, host for the semifinals and finals. Wittenberg and DePauw will be the other quarterfinal hosts. They and (likely) OWU will host Denison, Kenyon, and Wabash, but in who knows what combination. Wooster's opening opponent will probably be Oberlin, but it could be Hiram, and if the stars align just right, it could be Allegheny. Got that? There'll be a quiz later.
CSAC
The 6 teams are set. Just waiting for seeding.
Cabrini #1. Hosts lowest remaining seed on Tuesday 2/25
Gwynedd Mercy #2. Hosts highest remaining seed on Tuesday 2/25
Both receive Byes
#6 at #3 Neumann on Saturday 2/22/14
#4 at #5.
Immaculata is currently # 4 at 9-7 in conference. Have Gwynedd and Cabrini on the road. Lost to both already.
Rosemont is currently #5 at 8-9. Have Cairn at home. Split with Immaculata could earn the 4th spot with win and two IU losses. Don't know all tiebreakers yet.
Keystone is currently #6 at 8-9. Can get as high as 5th. With win at Cabrini and a Rosemont loss. Lost 2x each to Rosemont and Immaculata.
CUNYAC is final 1st round 2/22, semis 2/25, finals 2/28
#1 Staten Island (23-2, 16-0)
vs
#8 CCNY (8-17, 3-13)
#5 Hunter (11-13, 7-9)
vs
#4 Brooklyn (12-13, 8-8)
#3 Baruch (14-11, 10-6)
vs
#6 Lehman (13-12, 7-9)
#7 John Jay (9-16, 7-9)
vs
#2 York (18-7, 13-3)
Years and years ago we had a separate page on the site dedicated to the conference tournaments. We're going to do that this year again!
Which is not to discourage this, because this will help us track down missing pieces. So please don't stop with this. :)
NACC Tournament field is set...
Quarterfinals - Saturday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
No. 8 Wisconsin Lutheran at No. 1 Marian
No. 7 Edgewood at No. 2 MSOE
No. 6 Concordia Wisconsin at No. 3 Lakeland
No. 5 Benedictine at No. 4 Aurora
Semifinals - Wednesday, Feb. 26, 7 p.m.
No. 1/8 vs. No. 4/5
No. 2/7 vs. No. 3/6
Final - Saturday, March 1, 7 p.m.
Stevens Point 14-1 vs Stout
Whitewater 12-3 at Eau Claire
La Crosse 10-6 BYE...I think La Crosse clinches #3 because they beat Whitewater and Platteville didn't.
Platteville 9-6 vs River Falls
Stout 7-8 at Stevens Point...I think Stout clinches #5 because they beat Whitewater and Oshkosh didn't.
Oshkosh 6-9 vs Superior
Superior 4-11 at Oshkosh
Eau Claire 3-12 vs Whitewater
River Falls 3-12 at Platteville
I think the WIAC is set with one game day to go.
#1 Point bye
#2 Whitewater bye
#3 La Crosse vs #6 Oshkosh...La Crosse swept Oshkosh, but won by just one at home.
#4 Platteville vs #5 Stout...Platteville swept Stout.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 19, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
Stevens Point 14-1 vs Stout
Whitewater 12-3 at Eau Claire
La Crosse 10-6 BYE...I think La Crosse clinches #3 because they beat Whitewater and Platteville didn't.
Platteville 9-6 vs River Falls
Stout 7-8 at Stevens Point...I think Stout clinches #5 because they beat Whitewater and Oshkosh didn't.
Oshkosh 6-9 vs Superior
Superior 4-11 at Oshkosh
Eau Claire 3-12 vs Whitewater
River Falls 3-12 at Platteville
I think the WIAC is set with one game day to go.
#1 Point bye
#2 Whitewater bye
#3 La Crosse vs #6 Oshkosh...La Crosse swept Oshkosh, but won by just one at home.
#4 Platteville vs #5 Stout...Platteville swept Stout.
Do you remember if the WIAC reseeds after the quarterfinals? Yep.
http://wiacsports.com/sports/2014/1/9/MBB_0109145524.aspx?path=mbball
Friday, February 28
Semifinals
Lowest Remaining Seed at #1 Seed, 7 p.m.
Highest Remaining Seed at #2 Seed, 7 p.m
Also interesting...
*Conference policy indicates there will be no live video streaming of any WIAC Basketball Championship games
Commonwealth Coast Conference:
With one game remaining (2/22):
Nichols is #1 regardless of outcome.
The winner of ENC-Gordon is #2, the loser is #3.
Salve and Endicott will be #4 and #5 - only home court up for grabs. If tied, Salve wins the tiebreaker.
WIT and RWU will be #6 and #7; if they tie at 9-9, WIT wins the tiebreaker, if they tie at 8-10 then it comes down to which team is #4 (if SRU is #4, WIT gets the tiebreaker; if EC is #4, RWU gets the tiebreaker).
WNE is #8 (they have the tiebreaker over Curry).
Three rounds, games played Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday - higher seed hosts.
For what it's worth, the two best teams in the conference are Nichols and Salve. Salve will end up as either #4 or #5 because of some injury trouble (now resolved), which means the two best teams will likely meet in the semis.
Yep, the WIAC is official:
Wednesday, February 26
First Round
UW-Stevens Point (#1) - Bye
UW-Whitewater (#2) - Bye
UW-Stout (#5) at UW-Platteville (#4), 7 p.m.
UW-Oshkosh (#6) at UW-La Crosse (#3), 7 p.m.
Friday, February 28
Semifinals
Lowest Remaining Seed at UW-Stevens Point (#1), 7 p.m.
Highest Remaining Seed at UW-Whitewater (#2), 7 p.m.
Sunday, March 2
Championship (at highest remaining seed)
Semifinal Winners, 2 p.m.
**Championship winner earns conference's automatic NCAA bid
**All start times are subject to change
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Quote from: mailsy on February 17, 2014, 11:03:34 PM
CSAC
The 6 teams are set. Just waiting for seeding.
Cabrini #1. Hosts lowest remaining seed on Tuesday 2/25
Gwynedd Mercy #2. Hosts highest remaining seed on Tuesday 2/25
Both receive Byes
#6 at #3 Neumann on Saturday 2/22/14
#4 at #5.
Immaculata is currently # 4 at 9-7 in conference. Have Gwynedd and Cabrini on the road. Lost to both already.
Rosemont is currently #5 at 8-9. Have Cairn at home. Split with Immaculata could earn the 4th spot with win and two IU losses. Don't know all tiebreakers yet.
Keystone is currently #6 at 8-9. Can get as high as 5th. With win at Cabrini and a Rosemont loss. Lost 2x each to Rosemont and Immaculata.
Update and Final Seedings.
#1 Cabrini
#2 Gwynedd Mercy
#6 Keystone at #3 Neumann Saturday 2/22 (Split season series) Home teams won
#5 Rosemont at #4 Immaculata Saturday 2/22 (Split season series) Home teams won
Highest remaining seed at #2 on 2/25
Lowest remaining seed at #1 on 2/25
NJAC:
#5 New Jersey City (14-11, 9-9) (78)
@ 2/22 4:30
#4 Kean (13-12, 9-9) (79)
Winner onto #1 Mr. Richard Stockton (21-4, 15-3)
#6 Montclair (11-13, 8-10) (73)
@ 2/22 7
#3 Rutgers-Newark (18-7, 14-4) (84)
Winner onto #2 Bill Paterson (20-5, 14-4)
First round the 22, semifinals Wednesday the 26, finals March 1 at the highest seed after the semi's.
#3 Rutgers-Newark (19-7, 14-4) (66)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#2 Sir William Paterson (20-5, 14-4) (75)
#4 Kean (14-12, 9-9) (64)
@ 2/26 7:30 PM
#1 Mr. Richard Stockton (21-4, 15-3) (63)
#2 Sir Bill Patterson (21-5, 14-4) (44)
@ 3/1 7 PM
#1 Mr. Richard Stockton (22-4, 15-3) (65)
I wouldn't be surprised to see William Paterson in the NCAAs as well.
TGHIJGSTO!!!
Quote from: John Gleich on February 19, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Also interesting...
*Conference policy indicates the WIAC believes it is 2003.
Fixed.
Liberty League:
Hobart has clinched the top seed; Vassar, Clarkson, Skidmore and RIT still in the running for the last 3 spots. Vassar plays @ Clarkson & RIT plays @ Skidmore both on Saturday, both of those games likely decide the tournament.
#4 Clarkson (16-9, 10-6) (69)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#1 Hobart (19-6, 13-3) (78. [overtime])
#3 Skidmore (16-9, 10-6) (62)
@ 2/26 8 PM
#2 Vassar (18-7, 10-6) (66)
#2 Vassar (19-7, 10-6) (74)
@ 3/1 4 PM
#1 Hobart (20-6, 13-3) (75 [double overtime])
Likely 1 team as Vassar was 5th or 6th in the East last week.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2014, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 19, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Also interesting...
*Conference policy indicates the WIAC believes it is 2003.
Fixed.
Actually, I think it may have to do with a tv contract... the regional Fox SportsNet station is going to broadcast the championship (albeit on tape delay).
... or something like that.
The MIAA Tournament is set:
2/26/2014 - Semifinals
#4 Trine at #1 Hope
#3 Albion at #2 Calvin
2/29/2014 - Finals
Lower remaining seed at higher remaining seed.
SCIAC tournament field is set, though seeding still needs to be sorted out.
#1 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps (CMS)
#2 Pomona-Pitzer (P-P)
TBD Cal Lutheran (CLU)
TBD Chapman
The CMS @ CLU game on Saturday will determine the 3/4 seeds. If CLU wins, then they are the 3 seed, if they lose they are the 4 seed.
Semifinals - 2/28 - Higher seed hosts
#1 CMS vs #4
#2 P-P vs #3
Finals - 3/1 - Highest remaining seed hosts
All game times TBD subject to when/where Women's games are
The Landmark limits their postseason tourney to the top 4 regular season teams. There is a possibility of a 4-way tie for the 4th spot, leaving only 1 team out of the tiebreaking procedures for the NCAA AQ berth. It provokes an argument(weak though it may be) of having everyone get a shot in the conference tourney at the AQ and the following question for the D3 historians:
Of the conferences that include everyone(are there any?) in their tourney, which team from the bottom half of the conference(who wouldn't have been able to win the AQ in the other conferences) won their AQ and went the farthest in the NCAA tourney?
Dave, Goucher could be such a team this year-you might have been watching the NCAA champs all year, only to be eliminated by a coin flip.
Quote from: 7express on February 16, 2014, 10:13:15 PM
Here's an official list to keep track:
AMCC:
American Southwest
Capital Athletic
Centennial
CUNYAC
CCIW
CSAC
Commonwealth Coast:
Empire 8
GNAC
Heartland
Iowa IAC
Landmark
Liberty
Little East
MASCAC
Michigan IACCommonwealth
Freedom
Midwest
Minnesota IAC
NEWMAC
NECC
NJAC
NESCAC
North Atlantic
North Coast
North Eastern
Northern Athletics
Northwest
Ohio Athletic
ODAC
Presidents Athletic
Skyline
SAA (Still pool B I believe??) Someone correct me if I'm wrong
SCIAC
SCAC
SLIAC
SUYNAC
Upper Midwest
USA South
WIAC
That should cover them all as Great South no longer supports men's basketball and obviously the UAA has no conference tournament. If I missed one please let me know. If there's regulars for one of these conferences, feel free to update if you wish, and I'll take care of any stragglers.
It should be MIAA (Michiagn Intercollegiate Athletic Association). The oldest athletic conference in the USA. www.miaa.org
Quote from: ronk on February 20, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
The Landmark limits their postseason tourney to the top 4 regular season teams. There is a possibility of a 4-way tie for the 4th spot, leaving only 1 team out of the tiebreaking procedures for the NCAA AQ berth. It provokes an argument(weak though it may be) of having everyone get a shot in the conference tourney at the AQ and the following question for the D3 historians:
Of the conferences that include everyone(are there any?) in their tourney, which team from the bottom half of the conference(who wouldn't have been able to win the AQ in the other conferences) won their AQ and went the farthest in the NCAA tourney?
Dave, Goucher could be such a team this year-you might have been watching the NCAA champs all year, only to be eliminated by a coin flip.
The LEC last off season went back to all 8 after limiting it to 6 for a couple seasons. Boston who will be the 8 has no chance to win it, neither does Southern Maine (will either be 6 or 7) but usually once you get out of the top 3 it's extremely difficult. The closest I've seen of my 4 years watching was Keene in 2011 who was the 4 seed who lost in double overtime to the 1 seed RIC and I think would have beaten Eastern (the 3 seed that year) in the finals.
Quote from: John Gleich on February 20, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2014, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 19, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Also interesting...
*Conference policy indicates the WIAC believes it is 2003.
Fixed.
Actually, I think it may have to do with a tv contract... the regional Fox SportsNet station is going to broadcast the championship (albeit on tape delay).
... or something like that.
Last year it was one month later. Having no live broadcasts of the other four games is fairly short-sighted and indicates a severely outdated media policy.
So the first four seeds have been locked up.
1. Albertus
2. St. Joes
3. JWU
4. Lasell
These teams will host quarterfinal action on Tuesday night.
As for who wants to travel to play these teams.. Well, that hasn't been decide yet. I don't know all of the tie breakers.. But,
currently, Emmanuel is the 8th seed, Suffolk 7th, Rivier 6th, and Anna Maria 5th... But, Emmanuel travels to Albertus this Saturday and Norwich travels to Suffolk. Norwich could win and Emmanuel could lose. At that point, I don't know who the the 8th seed would be. Anna Maria plays Rivier - If Rivier wins, they move to the 5 seed and Anna Maria plays JWU. Big game on Saturday, because I would rather play at Lasell then at JWU. Mt. Ida needs a miracle to to make the playoffs, and Suffolk could end as the 6th seed if they win and Riv losses.. So, lots to watch on Saturday.
The field for the IIAC is decided. Central finished first and will play all games at home, and Dubuque gets the other bye while spots 3-6 will be handed out between Luther, Loras, Wartburg & Buena Vista on Saturday. First round is Tuesday, February 25, semifinals Thursday, February 27, and the finals Saturday, March 1 all on campus sites of the higher seed.
Official field:
#6 Luther (15-10, 7-7) (86)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#3 Loras (15-10, 8-6) (77)
Winner onto #2 Dubuque (21-4, 10-4)
#5 Wartburg (13-12, 7-7) (83)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#4 Buena Vista (13-12, 8-6) (85)
Winner onto #1 Central (18-7, 11-3)
#6 Luther (16-10, 8-7) (87)
@ 2/27 8 PM
#2 Dubuque (21-4, 10-4) (83)
#4 Buena Vista (14-12, 8-6) (84)
@ 2/27 8 PM
#1 Central (18-7, 11-3) (86)
#6 Luther (17-10, 8-7) (70)
@ 3/1 8 PM
#1 Central (19-7, 11-3) (74)
Dubuque fans will be very nervous the next 33 hours or so.
Heading into the final weekend in the E8, there are 4 spots for 5 teams: Alfred, St. John Fisher, Stevens, Hartwick, and Nazareth. SJF is currently sitting in the 4th and final spot a half game in front of Alfred but they are in the deep hole. SJF is done for the season, and I believe loses a tiebreaker with Alfred should both finish the season 9-5. It's highly unlikely to happen, but there still remains the possibility for a 5 way tie at 9-5 between those 5 teams listed above, so the E8 is a long way from being sewn up.
official. Hartwick is the #1 seed and all games will be taking place @ Hartwick college.
#2 Stevens (17-8, 10-4) (60)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Hartwick)
#3 Nazareth (18-7, 10-4) (71)
#4 Alfred (18-7, 9-5) (85)
@ 2/28 8 PM
#1 Hartwick (16-9, 10-4) (90)
#3 Nazareth (19-7, 10-4) (62)
@ 3/1 3 PM
#1 Hartwick (17-9, 10-4) (67)
Stevens & Nazareth are probably too far back in the regional rankings to make much noise on Monday.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2014, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 20, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 20, 2014, 01:14:36 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 19, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Also interesting...
*Conference policy indicates the WIAC believes it is 2003.
Fixed.
Actually, I think it may have to do with a tv contract... the regional Fox SportsNet station is going to broadcast the championship (albeit on tape delay).
... or something like that.
Last year it was one month later. Having no live broadcasts of the other four games is fairly short-sighted and indicates a severely outdated media policy.
I don't disagree. Fox got mad and the payout was worth the bad policy?
I'm happy that the majority of WIAC games are online. Still highway robbery that it costs $8 to watch an Oshkosh game... but I guess they have to pay the heating bill at the Kolf (goodness knows that the meager contingent of fans doesn't warm it much...)
Quote from: ronk on February 20, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
The Landmark limits their postseason tourney to the top 4 regular season teams. There is a possibility of a 4-way tie for the 4th spot, leaving only 1 team out of the tiebreaking procedures for the NCAA AQ berth. It provokes an argument(weak though it may be) of having everyone get a shot in the conference tourney at the AQ and the following question for the D3 historians:
Of the conferences that include everyone(are there any?) in their tourney, which team from the bottom half of the conference(who wouldn't have been able to win the AQ in the other conferences) won their AQ and went the farthest in the NCAA tourney?
Dave, Goucher could be such a team this year-you might have been watching the NCAA champs all year, only to be eliminated by a coin flip.
Um... I have not been watching the NCAA champs all year... I know that to be the truth :).
Here is their scenario heading into Saturdays games:
Quote from: gouchersid on February 20, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
This has been checked and re-checked several times by several different people, so I think it is accurate: Four teams remain in the hunt for the final playoff berth. The only one of the five who haven't clinched so far that can't make it in is Drew. It is conceivable that all four games on Saturday could help determine the final playoff team.
Men's Basketball
- Scranton is the No. 1 seed.
- If Catholic defeats Moravian or Susquehanna loses to USMMA, Catholic is No. 2.
- Susquehanna has clinched a spot, but could be No. 2, 3 or 4. If Susquehanna defeats USMMA and Catholic loses, Susquehanna is No. 2. If Susquehanna defeats USMMA and Catholic wins, Susquehanna is No. 3.
- Goucher gets in if Catholic, Drew, Goucher and Susquehanna win. It forces a 3-way tie between Drew, Goucher and USMMA and Goucher wins the tiebreaker.
- Juniata gets in if Goucher, Moravian, Juniata and Susquehanna win. It forces a 4-way tie between Goucher, Juniata, Moravian and USMMA and Juniata wins the tiebreaker.
- Moravian gets in Drew, Moravian, Scranton and Susquehanna win. It forces a 3-way tie between Drew, Moravian and USMMA and Moravian wins the tiebreaker.
- If USMMA wins, they're in and clinch the No. 3 seed. If they lose, they need Scranton and Catholic to win to clinch the No. 4 seed.
Quote from: ronk on February 20, 2014, 02:59:22 PM
Of the conferences that include everyone(are there any?) in their tourney, which team from the bottom half of the conference(who wouldn't have been able to win the AQ in the other conferences) won their AQ and went the farthest in the NCAA tourney?
The Little East includes all 8, and I believe the ODAC includes all 12, Presidents includes all 9, and the SAA includes all 8. They all did last year, and I'd assume it's the same this year. Also last year the SCAC included all 6 (they have 8 this year), and the USA South had all 8 participate last season after Piedmont ended their season early (this year they have 11).
The CUNY & MASCAC only leave 1 at home which is dumb. I know each league has an odd number of teams (9 & 7 respectively), but each league could easily take all their teams. For the CUNY set it up like the Presidents and have 9 play 8 than send that winner onto #1 to begin the quarterfinals. In the MASCAC's case send #1 to the semi's (which they do in the current set up anyways), and have 2 vs. 7, 3 vs. 6 & 4/5 matchups in the quarters and go for there.
I know the #9 CUNY team or #7 MASCAC team will probably never win the tournament, but if the conference is only going to leave 1 at home, why not take the whole league and give everyone a chance?? Fitchburg did win the MASCAC out of the #5 spot last year, so it is possible they could make a run.
If you're going to have a conference tourney and not give the auto-bid to a double round-robin champ, you may as well invite them all...or draw lots for the "A" bid.
It depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
Quote from: Just Bill on February 21, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
It depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
The argument was made recently (i.e. in the last several years) on the CCIW page (which was a relative late-comer in the conference tournament realm) that having the full conference in the tournament is actually *better* for even the top seeds... because the 1 and 2 seed would get another win under their belt (as opposed to the 4 team format they have currently).
Titan Q did the math on it... and it really does make sense, getting teams *and* opponents more wins.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
Very nice! I love the one stop shop for all of that info.
One quick thing that I noticed on the WIAC portion...
Date Away Home Time/Status Links
Feb. 26 UW-Oshkosh UW-La Crosse 8:00 PM
UW-Stout UW-Platteville 8:00 PM
Feb. 28
UW-Platteville TBA TBA TBA UW-Whitewater 8:00 PM
TBA UW-Stevens Point 8:00 PM
Mar. 2
UW-Platteville TBA TBA
Platteville is in there a couple extra times where they shouldn't be. Also, the championship time is set - 3:00 Sunday (2:00 Central), just not the location yet.
Quote from: John Gleich on February 21, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
Very nice! I love the one stop shop for all of that info.
One quick thing that I noticed on the WIAC portion...
Date Away Home Time/Status Links
Feb. 26 UW-Oshkosh UW-La Crosse 8:00 PM
UW-Stout UW-Platteville 8:00 PM
Feb. 28 UW-Platteville TBA TBA
TBA UW-Whitewater 8:00 PM
TBA UW-Stevens Point 8:00 PM
Mar. 2 UW-Platteville TBA TBA
Platteville is in there a couple extra times where they shouldn't be. Also, the championship time is set - 3:00 Sunday (2:00 Central), just not the location yet.
These are Platteville's games on their schedule -- I can't remove them. But Platteville has the right to say they might be playing in those games until they get eliminated.
Quote from: John Gleich on February 21, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 21, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
It depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
The argument was made recently (i.e. in the last several years) on the CCIW page (which was a relative late-comer in the conference tournament realm) that having the full conference in the tournament is actually *better* for even the top seeds... because the 1 and 2 seed would get another win under their belt (as opposed to the 4 team format they have currently).
Titan Q did the math on it... and it really does make sense, getting teams *and* opponents more wins.
Sure, I can see that,
IF your league is legitimately competing in the Pool C race year in an year out. Not all leagues are.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 21, 2014, 12:12:43 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
Very nice! I love the one stop shop for all of that info.
One quick thing that I noticed on the WIAC portion...
Date Away Home Time/Status Links
Feb. 26 UW-Oshkosh UW-La Crosse 8:00 PM
UW-Stout UW-Platteville 8:00 PM
Feb. 28 UW-Platteville TBA TBA
TBA UW-Whitewater 8:00 PM
TBA UW-Stevens Point 8:00 PM
Mar. 2 UW-Platteville TBA TBA
Platteville is in there a couple extra times where they shouldn't be. Also, the championship time is set - 3:00 Sunday (2:00 Central), just not the location yet.
These are Platteville's games on their schedule -- I can't remove them. But Platteville has the right to say they might be playing in those games until they get eliminated.
One of the drawbacks of an interlocked network of schedules. Not a big deal.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
Pat, are you doing a page for the women too this year or just the men??
For the LEC, Rhode Island College is locked in at #2 and will be playing at home in the quarterfinals, and UMass-Dartmouth is locked in at #3 and will be playing at home in the quarterfinals. Excellent work on this!
The MIAA had all 8 teams in the conference tournament until a few years ago. At that time it was decided only the top 4 teams would be in, and that was done to conform with all other sponsored sports that have end of season tournament. With the smaller tournament field it does place more importance on winning games early. In the years all 8 teams compteted I don't ever recall a #8 seed beating a #1, a 7 did beat a 2, and the 4-5 matches ups were interesting but genreally the cream rose to the top with 1 o2 winning out.
Playing an extra game is sort of a weak arguement at the end of the season especially if you are #1 or #2, and are playing a team you have already (probably) pasted twice. :)
I think we'll see how far we get with the men first. Pat has done a lot of work on this already, but this weekend is already a very busy one since we'll invariably have to enter the schedules for a lot of conference tournaments that aren't on the Presto Network and enter the seeds for the men's tournament, many of which won't be set until Saturday night.
Quote from: Just Bill on February 21, 2014, 12:37:16 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 21, 2014, 12:05:40 PM
Quote from: Just Bill on February 21, 2014, 09:38:21 AM
It depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
The argument was made recently (i.e. in the last several years) on the CCIW page (which was a relative late-comer in the conference tournament realm) that having the full conference in the tournament is actually *better* for even the top seeds... because the 1 and 2 seed would get another win under their belt (as opposed to the 4 team format they have currently).
Titan Q did the math on it... and it really does make sense, getting teams *and* opponents more wins.
Sure, I can see that, IF your league is legitimately competing in the Pool C race year in an year out. Not all leagues are.
Well, our leage does. ;D
I trust others to analyze how the math works with the NCAA selection criteria, but I like keeping the conference tournaments restricted to a small subset of the conference. It rewards strong performance over a long period of time and makes the regular season more meaningful. I even like the UAA/Ivy League approach. Give the bid to the team that earned it over three months, not three games.
Signed,
Conference Tourney Buzz Kill
I should've just quoted Just Bill. He put it a lot more eloquently.
QuoteIt depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
Quote from: gordonmann on February 21, 2014, 12:53:36 PM
I trust others to analyze how the math works with the NCAA selection criteria, but I like keeping the conference tournaments restricted to a small subset of the conference. It rewards strong performance over a long period of time and makes the regular season more meaningful. I even like the UAA/Ivy League approach. Give the bid to the team that earned it over three months, not three games.
Signed,
Conference Tourney Buzz Kill
There's definitely credence to that... several (most?) in the CCIW room would have preferred to stay away from the conference tournament, due to the fact that it gives every Pool C candidate an additional loss... the UAA is actually at an advantage because the non-Champs get to "Pool C eligibility" without having to lose another game at the end of their regular season.
The only other way that would work is if a team fails to make the conference tournament... but there hasn't been a team who made the NCAA tourney who failed to make their conference tournament yet. Technically it's possible (if you had 5 strong NCAA candidates in a 4-bid tourney) but unlikely.
Quote from: gordonmann on February 21, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I should've just quoted Just Bill. He put it a lot more eloquently.
Don't hitch your wagon to my star. I'm the guy who promotes an anthropomorphic pants supporting device with vaguely omnipotent powers. I can't be trusted.
I'm with Gordon on this one. Maybe I am because Point is always one of the top teams, IDK. But why have a 16-game, 14-game or 18-game conference season if you are just jockeying for conference playoff seed? Maybe still have a conference tournament but only have the regular season champion get the Pool A bid. This still gives the lower seeds a shot at the Pool C bids with 3 more wins and if they don't get a bid, they have a conference tournament trophy to hang their hat on.
As a conference, I would rather have my reg. season winner get a bid (and mostly likely have a better shot at winning a NCAA game) than a #6 seed get hot for 3 games and then get beat by an unfamiliar nonconference foe in the NCAAs.
Keep the regular season engaging for all teams? Its called pride and love of the game. They don't get paid millions to "go through the motions".
Yes, there will be a women's page too, and you can probably figure out what the URL will be. It's just not as far along.
I follow the CCC, which, as far as I know, has never won an NCAA Tournament game. Essentially, the conference tournament is our NCAA. That's the goal for 95% of the teams. Yes, we've had a few who developed some clout and ability and set their sites a bit higher, but that's rare. (If we have any team that makes the regional rankings, we're all pretty stoked.)
I like getting all the teams in. Over the last few years the conference has gone up and down in numbers. We sit at 10 now. Eight make the tournament. That seems fair. Most seasons 5 or 6 teams have as good a chance as any others to be "the best" team.
In those years when we have teams with a chance to win an NCAA game, they win the conference because they're head and shoulders above everyone else. That's just how it works.
That's only one conference, but it is another perspective.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
I follow the CCC, which, as far as I know, has never won an NCAA Tournament game. Essentially, the conference tournament is our NCAA. That's the goal for 95% of the teams. Yes, we've had a few who developed some clout and ability and set their sites a bit higher, but that's rare. (If we have any team that makes the regional rankings, we're all pretty stoked.)
I like getting all the teams in. Over the last few years the conference has gone up and down in numbers. We sit at 10 now. Eight make the tournament. That seems fair. Most seasons 5 or 6 teams have as good a chance as any others to be "the best" team.
In those years when we have teams with a chance to win an NCAA game, they win the conference because they're head and shoulders above everyone else. That's just how it works.
That's only one conference, but it is another perspective.
What if the "head and shoulders above everyone else" team gets sick or has other injuries that keeps players out of the conference tournament? The CCC might miss out on a rare opportunity to send a team capable of winning multiple games.
Quote from: gordonmann on February 21, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I should've just quoted Just Bill. He put it a lot more eloquently.
QuoteIt depends who your conference is though. If you're a lower level league that's not likely to produce at large candidates, then I think you owe it to yourself to give your best teams the best shot to reach the NCAAs. A league like the NACC has only won one NCAA Tournament game in 7 years, so it would make sense to limit the entries and even give your top two a bye to give the teams with the best chance to win an NCAA Tournament game a chance to get there. For a league like the WIAC which can produce an at-large nearly every season, where a 3-5 seed could reasonably win an NCAA Tournament game and almost always wins multiple NCAA games each year, protecting your best for the big dance isn't quite as vital.
Not even having a tournament would guarantee that of course, but most conferences want to have some kind of carrot out there to keep the regular season engaging for all the teams. It's no fun for players if the league's AQ is secured with 3 games left in the regular season.
I've always felt in Division III having about 50% of your teams qualify for the conference tournament makes the most sense for most leagues. You give your top teams the best shot by not having too many games to win it, and/or giving a bye, but you give a reasonable chance to make a run to everyone in the top half of the league. You keep the regular season meaningful by making teams earn their way into postseason. If you didn't finish in the top half of your league, you probably don't really deserve a shot anyway. Just my opinion.
My preference is NOT to have these blasted tournaments in D-3. But if you have them they ALL should be in. You're already corrupting the regular season anyway - just go full criminal on it.
Besides, I LOVE when a low seed beats a high seed. I break out the Nelson Muntz laugh. Give me a #8 or #9 conference seed in the NCAA's!
I think there's something romantic about every team having a shot. The NCAA Tournament isn't about finding out who's the best team, it's about determining a champion, and I see the conference tournaments as an extension of that.
If every league awarded their Pool A via a tournament with every team involved then, in effect, we'd have a 400+ team tournament. I kind of like that.
Because of all of the kvetching about the bids in the D-1 tourney, I always thought you should have everyone lace 'em up. You can give a lot of byes and the winner of each D-1 conference gets the first 32 seeds. Start on Monday with the all 350+ on Monday, Tuesday, then 256 to play Thursday, Friday and 128 Saturday, Sunday. Have the conference winners host each of the pods (where two emerge from each pod). After that, you have 64 and then the NIT, CIT, CBI can pick over the upset victims for their squad.
Sure, a game between Arizona and Florida International (256 in Pomeroy) won't be that thrilling, but at least everyone has a 'chance'.
Not that D-3 will do anything like that, but a full boat of conference tournaments could suffice.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
For the HCAC only 6 teams make the tournament not 8.
Rose-Hulman has locked up the 1 seed and will host the semis (2/28) and final (3/1). Defiance is locked in at #2 and gets a bye. All that's left to decide is Hanover/Mt St Joseph for the 3|4 seeds and Franklin/Transylvania for the 5|6 seeds. The two quarterfinal games will be 2/25 at Hanover and Mt St Joseph
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 21, 2014, 04:50:04 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 21, 2014, 11:56:34 AM
I thought I would give this group the first look at the conference tournament tracker page we're building:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Not all of the info is in yet but if you see anything that is here that is incorrect, let me know!
For the HCAC only 6 teams make the tournament not 8.
Rose-Hulman has locked up the 1 seed and will host the semis (2/28) and final (3/1). Defiance is locked in at #2 and gets a bye. All that's left to decide is Hanover/Mt St Joseph for the 3|4 seeds and Franklin/Transylvania for the 5|6 seeds. The two quarterfinal games will be 2/25 at Hanover and Mt St Joseph
Fixed...
Quote from: AO on February 21, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 21, 2014, 02:56:09 PM
I follow the CCC, which, as far as I know, has never won an NCAA Tournament game. Essentially, the conference tournament is our NCAA. That's the goal for 95% of the teams. Yes, we've had a few who developed some clout and ability and set their sites a bit higher, but that's rare. (If we have any team that makes the regional rankings, we're all pretty stoked.)
I like getting all the teams in. Over the last few years the conference has gone up and down in numbers. We sit at 10 now. Eight make the tournament. That seems fair. Most seasons 5 or 6 teams have as good a chance as any others to be "the best" team.
In those years when we have teams with a chance to win an NCAA game, they win the conference because they're head and shoulders above everyone else. That's just how it works.
That's only one conference, but it is another perspective.
What if the "head and shoulders above everyone else" team gets sick or has other injuries that keeps players out of the conference tournament? The CCC might miss out on a rare opportunity to send a team capable of winning multiple games.
Maybe. I doubt it. I just don't think five days is going to make a huge difference in team make-up.
A few years ago when Shauer was at Gordon, they developed a really good program and their teams were top notch. Those teams, at least by the third year, were not good enough to win even one game. I suspect any CCC team good enough to win NCAA games is going to be good enough to get a Pool C bid. Maybe not, but I'd rather have the conference tournament - it's absolutely the best basketball of the year for us.
The Commonwealth Coast Conference tournament is now set:
#8 Western New England at #1 Nichols
#7 Wentworth at #2 Eastern Nazarene
#6 Roger Williams at #3 Gordon
#5 Endicott at #4 Salve Regina
Quarterfinals Tuesday. Semifinals Thursday. Finals Saturday. Top seeds host.
Here's the North Coast Athletic Conference (http://www2.northcoast.org/mbasketball/tournament/2014):
Quarterfinals Tuesday at higher seed:
#8 Oberlin 56 at #1 Wooster 89
#7 Wabash 59 at #2 DePauw 73
#6 Denison 49 at #3 Wittenberg 64
#5 Kenyon 67 at #4 Ohio Wesleyan 78
Hiram and Allegheny failed to qualify for the conference tournament.
Semifinals Friday and Finals Saturday at Wooster.
#3 Wittenberg 63 vs. #2 DePauw 61
#4 OWU 67 at #1 Wooster 78
Championship:
#3 Wittenberg 63 at #1 Wooster 71
These quarterfinals have the potential for a great deal of intrigue. Potential, maybe, but no reality.
*I don't need to tell you about Wabash and DePauw. They played Wednesday in Greencastle and the Tigers barely held off the LGs, 75-74.
*Denison won at Wittenberg three weeks ago, 63-60.
*OWU nipped Kenyon at Kenyon two weeks ago, 68-65. Their game at Branch Rickey Arena, won by the homestanding Bishops 78-60, was the first game of the season and is probably not very informative more than three months later.
*Oberlin hasn't played at Wooster yet this season; that game tips in a little over an hour. The Scots beat the Yeomen 77-58 on Nov. 19, FWIW.
The HCAC bracket is now set
Tuesday, Feb. 25 (at high seed)
Game 1 - #6 Franklin at #3 Hanover, 78-70
Game 2 - #5 Transylvania at #4 Mount St. Joseph, 75-54
Friday, Feb. 28 (at Rose-Hulman)
Game 3 - #2 Defiance vs. #3 Hanover, 61-54
Game 4 - #1 Rose-Hulman vs. #4 Mount St Joseph, 68-54
Saturday, Mar. 1 (at Rose-Hulman)
Championship - #3 Hanover vs. #1 Rose-Hulman, 70-56
The Centennial is set!
#5 Muhlenberg 52 at #4 McDaniel 57 Wed 7:30
#2 F&M 48 vs. #3 Hopkins 50 at Dickinson
#4 McDaniel 63 at #1 Dickinson 77
#3 John Hopkins (16-10, 12-6) 60 at #1 Dickinson (20-5, 15-3) 55
Landmark(top 4 of 8)
Semis: Wednesday 26 Feb
#4 MMA @ #1 Scranton
#3 Catholic @ #2 Susquehanna
Final: Saturday 1 Mar @ higher seed
CCIW (at IWU):
Augie vs. Wheaton
Carthage vs. IWU
Updated all the ones from Saturday. I'll work on all open ones tomorrow & Monday.
SCIAC men:
CLU @ CMS
CU @ PP
SUYNAC. First round on campus sites, semifinals and finals @ #1 Brockport
#6 Oneonta (12-13, 9-9) (67)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#3 Geneseo (20-5, 14-4) (79)
Winner to play #2 Plattsburgh (21-4, 15-3)
#5 Cortland (14-11, 9-9) (57)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Oswego (16-9, 10-8) (69)
Winner onto #1 Brockport (22-3, 16-2)
#2 Plattsburgh (21-4, 15-3) (73)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Brockport)
#3 Geneseo (21-5, 14-4) (69)
#4 Oswego (17-9, 10-8) (56)
@ 2/28 8 PM
#1 Brockport (22-3, 16-2) (77)
#2 Plattsburgh (22-4, 15-3) (56)
@ 3/1 4 PM
#1 Brockport (23-3, 16-2) (57)
This will be at the worst a 2 bid league as Plattsburgh will be in the tourney, but should be 3 with Geneseo in there as well.
AMCC. First round at campus sites, semifinals and finals @ #1 seed Penn State-Behrend
#5 La Roche (14-11, 10-8) (66)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Pitt-Bradford (15-10, 11-7) (73)
Winner onto #1 Behrend (21-4, 15-3)
#6 Pitt-Greensburg (12-13, 10-8) (73)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#3 Hilbert (19-6, 13-5) (90)
Winner plays #2 Medaille (14-11, 13-5)
#4 Pitt-Bradford (16-10, 11-7) (71)
@ 2/28 6 PM
#1 Penn State-Behrend (21-4, 15-3) (87)
#2 Medaille (14-11, 13-5) (77)
vs. 2/28 8 PM (@ Behrend)
#3 Hilbert (20-6, 13-5) (80)
#3 Hilbert (21-6, 13-5) (51)
@ 3/1 3 PM
#1 Penn State-Behrend (22-4, 15-3) (66)
Hilbert may get brought up for a bit, but Behrend is likely the only team.
Capital Athletic:
#6 Marymount (15-10, 7-9) (80)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#3 St. Mary's (MD) (18-7, 11-5) (95)
Winner onto #2 Mary Washington (20-5, 12-4)
#5 Christopher Newport (17-8, 9-7) (78)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#4 Salisbury (14-11, 9-7) (74)
Winner to #1 Wesley (22-2, 14-2)
#3 St. Mary's (MD) (19-7, 11-5) (65)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#2 Mary Washington (20-5, 12-4) (70)
#5 Christopher Newport (18-8, 9-7) (59)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#1 Wesley (22-2, 14-2) (54)
#5 Christopher Newport (19-8, 9-7) (48)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#2 Mary Washington (21-5, 12-4) (65)
Wesley will join Mary Washington in the field and St. Mary's & Newport are both questionable as well.
MASCAC:
#5 MCLA (8-16, 5-7) (89)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Westfield (15-10, 8-4) (67)
Winner plays #1 Salem State (16-8, 9-3)
#3 Worcester State (11-13, 8-4) (71)
vs. 2/25 7 PM (@ Assumption college)
#6 Framingham State (8-17, 2-10) (51)
Winner onto play #2 Bridgewater State (14-11, 8-4)
#5 MCLA (9-16, 5-7) (76)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#1 Salem State (16-8, 9-3) (82)
#3 Worcester State (12-13, 8-4) (62)
@ 2/27 7:30 PM
#2 Bridgewater State (14-11, 8-4) (66)
#2 Bridgewater State (15-11, 8-4) (83)
@ 3/1 1 PM
#1 Salem State (17-8, 9-3) (73)
Bridgewater wins the MASCAC auto bid.
Pat or Dave or Gordon,
Are there 20 Pool C bids and 1 Pool B bid this year?
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2014, 02:41:52 AM
Pat or Dave or Gordon,
Are there 20 Pool C bids and 1 Pool B bid this year?
I'm thinking that it's 42 A, 1 B, 19 C
First round complete in the NACC, and there was one upset. MSOE was in the regional rankings, so that's likely a death blow on any Pool C dream they may have had.
Quarterfinals - Saturday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
No. 1 Marian 83, No. 8 Wisconsin Lutheran 63
No. 7 Edgewood 76, No. 2 MSOE 70
No. 3 Lakeland 100, No. 6 Concordia Wisconsin 92
No. 4 Aurora 62, No. 5 Benedictine 56
Semifinals - Wednesday, Feb. 26, 7 p.m.
No. 4 Aurora at No. 1 Marian [Live Stats | Video]
No. 7 Edgewood at No. 3 Lakeland [Live Stats | Video]
Final - Saturday, March 1, 7 p.m.
Minnesota IAC:
#6 Bethel (13-12, 9-11) (70)
@ 2/26 8:30 PM
#3 Augsburg (18-7, 14-6) (67)
#5 Gustavus Adolphus (16-9, 13-7) (65)
@ 2/26 8:30 PM
#4 Saint John's (15-10, 13-7) (64)
#1 St. Thomas (21-4, 18-2) gets the lowest remaining seed while #2 St. Olaf (20-5, 17-3) gets the highest remaining seed.
#6 Bethel (14-12, 10-11) (59)
@ 2/28 8:30 PM
#1 St. Thomas (21-4, 18-2) (74)
#5 Gustavus Adolphus (17-9, 13-7) (53)
@ 2/28 8:30 PM
#2 St. Olaf (20-5, 17-3) (66)
#2 St. Olaf (21-5, 17-3) (63)
@ 3/2 3 PM
#1 St. Thomas (22-4, 18-2) (53)
NEWMAC:
First round @ MIT
#5 Emerson (13-12, 6-8) (56)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#4 MIT (17-8, 8-6) (64)
Semifinals and finals @ #1 WPI
#4 MIT (18-8, 8-6) (64)
@ 3/1 1 PM
#1 WPI (22-3, 12-2) (46)
#2 Babson (20-5, 11-3) (77)
vs. 3/1 3 PM (@ WPI)
#3 Springfield (19-6, 10-4) (85 [overtime])
#4 MIT (19-8, 8-6) (67)
vs. 3/2 1 PM (@ WPI)
#3 Springfield (20-6, 10-4) (56)
Could get 4 bids. Babson is safe, & WPI likely gets in. Springfield could go either way, I have them in.
42, 1, 19... total of 62.
Quote from: magicman on February 23, 2014, 02:41:52 AM
Pat or Dave or Gordon,
Are there 20 Pool C bids and 1 Pool B bid this year?
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 23, 2014, 11:01:30 AM
42, 1, 19... total of 62.
Dave I asked this question, and I see you've replied as well as FCGrizzlies, because this is what is posted on the Tourney Tracker that Pat gave us the link for the other day and I bolded the number 63. I thought maybe we were getting an extra team this year and 1 less bye. I'm still confused. Must be the Tourney Tracker is wrong? ???
"In Division III basketball, "March Madness" starts in late February. There are 42 automatic qualifying bids into the
63-team NCAA Division III men's basketball tournament and 41 of those AQs are awarded to conference tournament winners.
I will check to see what you are talking about... but we are at 62 teams this year... I don't think we move to 63 for another year or two.
Ohio Athletic:
#8 Otterbein (4-21, 3-15) (74)
@ 2/24 7:30 PM
#5 John Carroll (15-10, 9-9) (95)
Winner to #4 Ohio Northern (16-9, 12-6)
#7 Capital (12-13, 9-9) (68)
@ 2/24 7:30 PM
#6 Baldwin-Wallace (13-12, 9-9) (78)
Winner to #3 Wilmington (16-8, 13-5)
#5 John Carroll (16-10, 9-9) (92)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#4 Ohio Northern (16-9, 12-6) (81)
Winner to #1 Mount Union (20-5, 15-3)
#6 Baldwin-Wallace (14-12, 9-9) (58)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#3 Wilmington (16-8, 13-5) (65)
Winner to #2 Mariette (19-6, 14-4)
#5 John Carroll (17-10, 9-9) (83)
@ 2/27 7:30 PM
#1 Mount Union (20-5, 15-3) (81)
#3 Wilmington (17-8, 13-5) (91)
@ 2/27 7:30 PM
#2 Marietta (19-6, 14-4) (82 [overtime])
#5 John Carroll (18-10, 9-9) (63)
@ 3/1 7:30 PM
#3 Wilmington (18-8, 13-5) (69)
Think Wilmington will be the lone team as Mount Union & Marietta will be on the wrong side of the bubble.
Presidents:
#9 Geneva (5-20, 1-15) (88)
@ 2/24 7:00 PM
#8 Westminster (PA) (3-22, 2-14) (74)
#9 Geneva (6-20, 1-15) (61)
@ 2/25 7:00 PM
#1 Bethany (21-4, 14-2) (59)
#5 Washington & Jefferson (13-12, 8-8) (58)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Waynesburg (14-11, 9-7) (62)
#6 Thiel (10-12, 7-9) (61)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#3 St. Vincent (19-6, 12-4) (79)
#7 Grove City (10-14, 7-9) (68)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#2 Thomas More (13-11, 12-4) (70)
#9 Geneva (7-20, 1-15) (65)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#2 Thomas More (14-11, 12-4) (87)
#4 Waynesburg (15-11, 9-7) (78)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#3 Saint Vincent (20-6, 12-4) (89)
#3 St. Vincent (21-6, 12-4) (90)
@ 3/1 7:30 PM
#2 Thomas More (14-11, 12-4) (84)
Bethany will be one of the last teams in, or first teams out depending which way the committee goes.
Commonwealth:
#5 Albright (13-12, 9-9) (79)
@ 2/24 7 PM
#4 Hood (16-9, 10-8) (85)
#4 Hood (17-9, 10-8) (72)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#1 Stevenson (18-7, 13-5) (83)
#3 Messiah (19-5, 13-5) (77)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#2 Alvernia (17-7, 13-5) (81)
#2 Alvernia (18-7, 13-5) (70)
@ 3/1 3 PM
#1 Stevenson (19-7, 13-5) (69)
Stevenson & Messiah will both be in the discussion on Monday.
Freedom:
#3 FDU-Florham (13-12, 8-6) (74)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#2 Misericordia (15-10, 9-5) (80)
#4 Manhattanville (11-14, 7-7) (68)
@ 2/26 7 PM
#1 DeSales (16-9, 10-4) (77)
#2 Misericordia (16-10, 9-5) (64)
@ 3/1 3 PM
#1 DeSales (17-9, 10-4) (73 [overtime])
No pool C candidates from the Freedom conference.
ODAC. First round on campus sites, next 3 rounds at the Salem Civic Center:
#12 Emory & Henry (4-21, 2-14) (63)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#5 Eastern Mennonite (15-10, 10-6) (89)
Winner to play #4 Lynchburg (17-8, 10-6)
#9 Roanoke (12-12, 6-10) (82)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#8 Hampden-Sydney (13-12, 7-9) (104)
Winner advances to play #1 Randolph-Macon (20-5, 14-2)
#11 Washington and Lee (6-18, 4-12) (66)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#6 Randolph (15-10, 9-7) (62)
Winner to play #3 Guilford (17-8, 11-5)
#10 Shenandoah (12-13, 4-10) (87)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#7 Bridgewater (13-11, 8-8) (93 [overtime])
Winner to play #2 Virginia Wesleyan (19-6, 12-4)
#1 Randolph-Macon (20-5, 14-2) (55)
vs. 2/28 1 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#8 Hampden-Sydney (14-12, 7-9) (68)
#4 Lynchburg (17-8, 10-6) (81)
vs. 2/28 3 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#5 Eastern Mennonite (16-10, 10-6) (93)
#7 Bridgewater (VA) (14-11, 8-8) (70)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#2 Virginia Wesleyan (19-6, 12-4) (91)
#3 Guilford (17-8, 11-5) (70)
vs. 2/28 8 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#11 Washington and Lee (7-18, 4-12) (77)
#2 Virginia Wesleyan (20-6, 12-4) (74)
vs. 3/1 8 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#11 Washington and Lee (8-18, 4-12) (60)
#5 Eastern Mennonite (17-10, 10-6) (80)
vs. 3/1 6 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#8 Hampden-Sydney (15-12, 7-9) (104)
#2 Virginia Wesleyan (22-6, 12-4) (77)
vs. 3/2 3:30 PM (@ Salem, VA)
#8 Hampden-Sydney (16-12, 7-9) (74)
Randolph-Macon will be joining the Marlins in the NCAAs.
SCAC. All games take place @ Trinity-Texas:
#3 Schreiner (14-11, 10-4) (67)
vs. 2/28 8 PM (@ trinity-TX)
#6 Austin College (8-15, 4-10) (47)
#2 Centenary (LA) (16-9, 10-4) (74)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Trinity-TX)
#7 Southwestern (8-17, 4-10) (71)
#4 Colorado College (16-7, 9-5) (89)
vs. 2/28 4 PM (@ Trinity-TX)
#5 Dallas (11-13, 5-9) (81)
#8 Texas Lutheran (9-16, 3-11) (65)
@ 2/28 2 PM
#1 Trinity (TX) (16-9, 11-3) (78)
#4 Colorado College (17-7, 9-5) (48)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#1 Trinity (TX) (17-9, 11-3) (64)
#2 Centenary (LA) (17-9, 10-4) (74)
vs. 3/1 4 PM (@ Trinity-TX)
#3 Schreiner (15-11, 10-4) (66)
#2 Centenary (LA) (18-9, 10-4) (ineligible for the tournament anyway) (70)
@ 3/2 1 PM
#1 Trinity (TX) (18-9, 11-3) (82)
1 bid league. Colorado College started off hot, but faded down the stretch.
GNAC Tournament:
Quarterfinals on 2/25/14 at higher seed:
#8 Norwich (69) at #1 Albertus (87)
#6 Anna Maria (58) at #3 JWU (92)
#7 Suffolk (72) travels to #2 St. Joe's (80)
#5 Rivier (65) travels to #4 Lasell (80)
Semi-finals on 2/27/14
#4 Lasell (72) at #1 Albertus (91)
#3 JWU (64) at #2 St. Joe's (66)
highest remaining seed
#2 St. Joe's at #1 Albertus at 1pm
North Atlantic:
#7 New England College (8-17, 5-13) (88)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#2 Castleton State (18-7, 16-2) (128)
#6 Maine-Farmington (11-14, 9-9) (80)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#3 Colby-Sawyer (14-10, 13-5) (61)
#8 Johnson State (6-19, 3-15) (55)
@ 2/25 7:30 PM
#1 Husson (23-2, 17-1) (88)
#5 Thomas (11-14, 11-7) (59)
@ 2/25 6 PM
#4 Lyndon State (12-13, 12-6) (91)
#2 Castleton State (19-7, 16-2) (97)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Husson)
#6 Maine-Farmington (12-14, 9-9) (107)
#4 Lyndon State (13-13, 12-6) (76)
@ 2/28 8 PM
#1 Husson (24-2, 17-1) (93)
#6 Maine-Farmington (13-14, 9-9) (89)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#1 Husson (25-2, 17-1) (96 [overtime])
1 bid league regardless of who won.
Northwest:
#4 Lewis & Clark (17-8, 10-6) (62)
@ 2/27 10 PM
#1 Whitworth (20-5, 14-2) (87)
#3 Puget Sound (14-11, 10-6) (71)
@ 2/27 11 PM
#2 Whitman (16-9, 11-5) (66)
#3 Puget Sound (15-11, 10-6) (68)
@ 3/1 10:00 PM
#1 Whitworth (21-5, 14-2) (71)
Whitworth was going to be on the bubble if they lost, so they will be the only team representing the NWC this year.
Quote"In Division III basketball, "March Madness" starts in late February. There are 42 automatic qualifying bids into the 63-team NCAA Division III men's basketball tournament and 41 of those AQs are awarded to conference tournament winners.
That was my mistake. It's 62.
Midwest. All games played at the #1 seed St. Norbert
#2 Grinnell (18-5, 13-5) (122)
vs. 2/28 1:30 PM (@ St. Norbert)
#3 Ripon (15-8, 12-6) (115)
#4 Carroll (15-8, 12-6) (68)
@ 2/28 6 PM
#1 St. Norbert (22-1, 18-0) (74)
#2 Grinnell (19-5, 13-5) (86)
@ 3/1 4 PM
#1 St. Norbert (23-1, 18-0) (99)
Likely the lone NCAA team.
SAA. This is a Pool B tournament, but Centre has the pool B spot pretty much locked up anyways. All games played at the #1 seed Centre.
#2 Birmingham-Southern (16-9, 10-4) (77)
vs. 2/28 6 PM (@ Centre)
#7 Hendrix (10-15, 4-10) (62)
#8 Berry (5-20, 2-12) (60)
@ 2/28 1 PM
#1 Centre (20-4, 13-1) (77)
#4 Rhodes (14-11, 7-7) (78)
vs. 2/28 3 PM (@ Centre)
#5 Sewanee (13-12, 6-8) (64)
#3 Oglethorpe (19-6, 9-5) (55)
vs. 2/28 8 PM (@ Centre)
#6 Millsaps (8-15, 5-9) (50)
#4 Rhodes (15-11, 7-7) (61)
@ 3/1 6 PM
#1 Centre (21-4, 13-1) (64)
#2 Birmingham Southern (17-9, 10-4) (70)
vs. 3/1 8 PM (@ Centre)
#3 Oglethorpe (20-6, 9-5) (72)
#3 Oglethorpe (21-6, 9-5) (75)
@ 3/2 1 PM
#1 Centre (22-4, 13-1) (76 [overtime])
Centre has Pool B wrapped up. Oglethorpe and BSC will now go into the Pool C bubble, but doubt either of them make it.
USA South. All games played @ #1 Maryville.
#8 Greensboro (11-14, 6-8) (91)
@ 2/27 7 PM
#1 Maryville (TN) (18-7, 13-1) (83)
#2 Averett (12-13, 9-5) (71)
vs. 2/27 3 PM (@ Maryville)
#7 Ferrum (10-15, 6-8) (77)
#3 Huntington (10-14, 9-5) (92)
vs. 2/27 1 PM (@ Maryville)
#6 Methodist (10-15, 7-7) (89)
#4 LaGrange (15-10, 9-5) (88)
vs. 2/27 5 PM (@ Maryville)
#5 North Carolina Wesleyan (13-12, 8-6) (76)
#3 Huntington (11-14, 9-5) (75)
vs. 2/28 5 PM (@ Maryville)
#7 Ferrum (11-15, 6-8) (68)
#4 LaGrange (16-10, 9-5) (116)
vs. 2/28 7 PM (@ Maryville)
#8 Greensboro (12-14, 6-8) (102)
#3 Huntington (12-14, 9-5) (84)
vs. 3/1 2 PM (@ Maryville)
#4 LaGrange (17-10, 9-5) (94)
1 bid league
Skyline:
#5 Old Westbury (14-11, 10-8) (81)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Sage (15-10, 11-7) (69)
Winner onto #1 Purchase (23-2, 17-1)
#6 St. Joseph's (LI) (9-16, 8-10) (57)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#3 Farmingdale State (17-8, 13-5) (84)
Winner onto #2 Mount St. Mary (20-5, 16-2)
#5 Old Westbury (15-11, 10-8) (73)
@ 2/27 8 PM
#1 Purchase (23-2, 17-1) (88)
#3 Farmingdale State (18-8, 13-5) (75)
@ 2/27 8 PM
#2 Mount St. Mary (20-5, 16-2) (95)
#2 Mount St. Mary (21-5, 16-2) (82)
@ 3/1 7 PM
#1 Purchase (24-2, 17-1) (100)
Purchase was going to be in regardless, so they save a team.
NECC. First round at campus sites, semifinals and finals at the 1 seed Elms College
#6 Daniel Webster (8-17, 7-9) (64)
@ 2/25 8 PM
#3 Becker (14-11, 10-6) (81)
Winner to play #2 Mitchell (17-7, 12-4)
#5 Regis (MA) (10-12, 9-6) (80)
@ 2/25 7 PM
#4 Southern Vermont (16-9, 10-6) (72)
Winner onto #1 Elms (14-11, 12-4)
Note: Regis vacated a win.
#5 Regis (MA) (11-12, 9-6) (71)
@ 2/28 6 PM
#1 Elms (14-11, 12-4) (81 [overtime])
#2 Mitchell (17-7, 12-4) (87)
vs. 2/28 8 PM (@ Elms)
#3 Becker (15-11, 10-6) (78)
#2 Mitchell (18-7, 12-4) (72)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#1 Elms (15-11, 12-4) (71)
1 bid league. Is this Mitchell's first NCAA appearance??
Upper Midwest:
#4 St. Scholastica (11-14, 8-6) (50)
@ 2/27 8:30 PM
#1 Northwestern (MN) (14-11, 11-3) (73)
#3 Crown (11-14, 8-6) (97)
@ 2/27 8:30 PM
#2 Minnesota-Morris (16-9, 10-4) (95)
#3 Crown (12-14, 8-6) (52)
@ 3/1 8 PM
#1 Northwestern (MN) (15-11, 11-3) (72)
1 bid league
Quote from: gordonmann on February 24, 2014, 12:06:11 AM
Quote"In Division III basketball, "March Madness" starts in late February. There are 42 automatic qualifying bids into the 63-team NCAA Division III men's basketball tournament and 41 of those AQs are awarded to conference tournament winners.
That was my mistake. It's 62.
Thanks Gordon,
I thought I missed something regarding the Pool C bids somewhere along the line.
This page has gone live now:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 24, 2014, 12:29:35 PM
This page has gone live now:
http://www.d3hoops.com/seasons/men/2013-14/conference-tournaments/index
Very nice! +1
North Eastern. All games played @ #1 seed Lancaster Bible:
#4 SUNY-Cobleskill (11-13, 10-8) (57)
vs. 2/28 7 PM (@ Lancaster Bible)
#5 Penn State-Berks (7-17, 7-11) (66)
#5 Penn State Berks (8-17, 7-11) (60)
@ 3/1 2 PM
#1 Lancaster Bible (18-7, 16-2) (89)
#2 Morrisville State (17-8, 13-5) (91)
vs. 3/1 4 PM
#3 Penn State-Abington (14-11, 11-7) (72)
#2 Morrisville State (18-8, 13-5) (73)
@ 3/2 1 PM
#1 Lancaster Bible (19-7, 16-2) (65)
1 bid league.
SLIAC. All games hosted by #1 seed Spalding who will be playing #4 Westminster. MacMurray and Webster will be making up the final 2 spots in the field.
#2 Webster (18-7, 15-3) (79)
vs. 2/27 6 PM (@ Spalding)
#3 MacMurray (19-6, 15-3) (65)
#4 Westminster (MO) (14-11, 11-7) (54)
@ 2/27 8 PM
#1 Spalding (18-7, 16-2) (64)
#2 Webster (19-7, 15-3) (55)
@ 3/1 1 PM
#1 Spalding (19-7, 16-2) (51)
Webster wins the SLIAC auto bid.
That should've taken care of them all.
Monday's tournaments in the Presidents, OAC, and Commonwealth updated.
Tuesday all updated.
Commonwealth Coast Conference survived round one with just a single upset (no Pool C implications).
Thursday night:
#4 Salve Regina at #1 Nichols (in my opinion, these are the two best teams in the conference)
#7 Wentworth at #3 Gordon
Yeah, but sad upset for you. Sorry, dude -- still a great year.
Hoops Fan that has to suck with your team losing. Good year, though as Pat said. See you down the road.
GNAC updated, page 6.
Semi-finals on Thursday.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 26, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
Yeah, but sad upset for you. Sorry, dude -- still a great year.
Well, the entire team are Sophomores, so this was already more than we expected out of the year. They should have won, but I'd been steeling myself all weekend - a total trap game (win over archrival Gordon on Saturday to secure the #2 and then a potential rematch on Thursday in the semis) against a savvy team of upperclassmen who've underachieved all year. It spelled trouble from the beginning.
It would have been nice to get to 20 wins - especially since 2 wins was considered a rousing success not long ago.
The team played poorly, which Coach Aller is going to fume over all summer, that stinks, but I would have taken a #2 conference finish in a heartbeat before the season.
They did it all with nobody bigger than 6'5" (and a stretch-4 at best). If they get some post players in - look out everyone next year.
the MIAC Playoff start off with a pair of upsets as #6 Bethel nips #3 Augsburg 70-67 and fifth seed Gustavus edges St John's 65-64.
Friday semifinals: Bethel @ #1 St Thomas
Gustavus @ #w St Olaf
Wednesday tournaments all updated.
Every bubble team's nightmare! We've got a 7-seed in a title game! Not sure Marian is a legit Pool C candidate anyway, but it'll be fun.
Quarterfinals - Saturday, Feb. 22, 7 p.m.
No. 1 Marian 83, No. 8 Wisconsin Lutheran 63 [Box Score | Recap]
No. 7 Edgewood 76, No. 2 MSOE 70 [Box Score | Recap]
No. 3 Lakeland 100, No. 6 Concordia Wisconsin 92 [Box Score | Recap]
No. 4 Aurora 62, No. 5 Benedictine 56 [Box Score | Recap]
Semifinals - Wednesday, Feb. 26, 7 p.m.
No. 1 Marian 71, No. 4 Aurora 51 [Box Score | Recap]
No. 7 Edgewood 77, No. 3 Lakeland 76 [Box Score | Recap]
Final - Saturday, March 1, 7 p.m.
No. 7 Edgewood at No. 1 Marian
Marian was never in the regional rankings. Though not a requirement, I never saw Marian (or MSOE who was in the rankings) a Pool C candidate.
WIAC brackets updated:
Wednesday, February 26
First Round
UW-Stevens Point (#1) - Bye
UW-Whitewater (#2) - Bye
UW-Platteville (#4) 70, UW-Stout (#5) 53 (at Platteville) (Box Score)
UW-La Crosse (#3) 76, UW-Oshkosh (#6) 61 (at La Crosse) (Box Score)
Friday, February 28
Semifinals
UW-Platteville (#4) at UW-Stevens Point (#1), 7 p.m.
UW-La Crosse (#3) at UW-Whitewater (#2), 7 p.m.
Sunday, March 2
Championship (at higher seed)
Semifinal Winners, 2 p.m.
Tonight's NWC matchups
#4 Lewis and Clark @ #1 Whitworth 7pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitworth.portal))
#3 Puget Sound @ #2 Whitman 8pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitman.portal#))
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 27, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
Tonight's NWC matchups
#4 Lewis and Clark @ #1 Whitworth 7pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitworth.portal))
#3 Puget Sound @ #2 Whitman 8pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitman.portal#))
I sort of miss that odd NWC three-team tournament. Oh well.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 27, 2014, 05:23:50 PM
Quote from: (509)Rat on February 27, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
Tonight's NWC matchups
#4 Lewis and Clark @ #1 Whitworth 7pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitworth.portal))
#3 Puget Sound @ #2 Whitman 8pm (Video (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/whitman.portal#))
I sort of miss that odd NWC three-team tournament. Oh well.
Now that Whitworth seems to get the #1 seed every year...I do too :D
Thursday updated.
Friday's updated.
#3 Gordon wins the Commonwealth Coast Conference tournament at the Pool A bid.
Quote from: David Collinge on February 22, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Here's the North Coast Athletic Conference (http://www2.northcoast.org/mbasketball/tournament/2014):
cutting to the chase...
Championship:
#3 Wittenberg 63 at #1 Wooster 71
Updated back on page 4 or whatever.
#1 Albertus Magnus wins GNAC over #2 St. Joe's (ME)
Third-seeded Wilmington takes the Ohio Athletic Conference crown with a 69-63 victory over fifth-seeded John Carroll.
I note for the record that the Richard Stockton Fightin' Tghijgstos steamrolled to an NJAC title and NCAA bid, dispatching William Paterson 65-44. The Tghijgstos advance to face whoever it is that will eliminate them, since we all know that NJAC teams never win NCAA tournament games.
Saturday's updated.
Updated Sunday's tournaments, and that should take care of it.