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Title: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 15, 2015, 10:56:24 AM
Just wanted some thoughts on who you would pick as your Final 4 if the season ended today. Can make this a weekly thing or keep predicting as the season progresses! Hope people have some predictions!
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 10:58:43 AM

Amherst / Thomas More / Oneonta St / Trinity

Elite 8: Haverford / Loras / NJAC school / Brandeis

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 15, 2015, 11:02:58 AM
My Final 4 as of right now would be:

Final 4
Amherst
Brandeis
Kenyon
Oneonta St.

Elite 8
Loras
Haverford
Thomas More
UW-Whitewater
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 15, 2015, 11:03:49 AM
I like your style LastGuy! We think similarly  ;)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 11:07:29 AM

Thomas More could be in the same pod as Trinity, tough to give a final 4 scenario given the geographic scheduling.

Kenyon totally slipped my mind, so I'd put them in Elite 8 before an NJAC school...   I think F&M will struggle vs an organized and experienced team in the sweet 16.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: ECSUalum on October 15, 2015, 11:24:03 AM
Franklin and Marshall, Amherst, Plattsburgh St and Elizabethtown
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: casualfan on October 15, 2015, 11:29:50 AM
Amherst, Brandeis, UW-Oshkosh, Kenyon
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 11:44:04 AM

I would think that Amherst v Brandeis is the likely Elite 8 match-up... with Amherst hosting

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NERevs127 on October 15, 2015, 12:30:20 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 11:44:04 AM

I would think that Amherst v Brandeis is the likely Elite 8 match-up... with Amherst hosting

The tourney is weird in that last year both Tufts and Brandeis, 10 miles apart, were in the Elite 8 but different regions.

Final 4
Amherst
Brandeis
Trinity Texas
Elizabethtown

Elite 8
Franklin & Marshall
Kenyon
Thomas More
Oneonta St / Calvin
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 15, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 11:07:29 AM

Thomas More could be in the same pod as Trinity, tough to give a final 4 scenario given the geographic scheduling.

Kenyon totally slipped my mind, so I'd put them in Elite 8 before an NJAC school...   I think F&M will struggle vs an organized and experienced team in the sweet 16.

I agree. Don't think F&M will make it past the Sweet 16.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: ihidebehindtheinternet on October 15, 2015, 01:02:25 PM
What do people think of Amherst, Brandeis and F&M hosting? Amherst gets all the NY, New England, and maybe a NJ pod, F&M gets all the PA schools and the South Atlantic pod, and then Brandeis being right outside Boston would host all the schools that have to fly like Trinity TX and a Wisconsin school.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 15, 2015, 01:31:29 PM
Quote from: ihidebehindtheinternet on October 15, 2015, 01:02:25 PM
What do people think of Amherst, Brandeis and F&M hosting? Amherst gets all the NY, New England, and maybe a NJ pod, F&M gets all the PA schools and the South Atlantic pod, and then Brandeis being right outside Boston would host all the schools that have to fly like Trinity TX and a Wisconsin school.


I doubt Brandeis and Amherst will host 2 separate sectional. They will get 1 each and then Brandeis would most likely travel for Sweet 16 / Elite 8
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 02:18:07 PM

Oneonta St likely to host through to the Final 4

Amherst likely to host through to the Final 4

CNU if they manage to stay unbeaten and win the CAC will host through to the Final 4

Kenyon to host through to the Final 4

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 15, 2015, 02:19:10 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 02:18:07 PM

Oneonta St likely to host through to the Final 4

Amherst likely to host through to the Final 4

CNU if they manage to stay unbeaten and win the CAC will host through to the Final 4

Kenyon to host through to the Final 4



Oneonta does not have the resume to host thru Final 4 and doubtful they would even host RD 64/32
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 15, 2015, 02:26:44 PM
Would Etown host?
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 15, 2015, 02:28:11 PM

Oneonta St is 10-3-1 with one of the more ridiculously hard schedules.  They certainly have a resume that could host their first round pod, and pending results a chance to host.

They will be the #1 or #2 in the East.  Plattsburgh St likely, but that could change by the 4th secret ranking.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 15, 2015, 02:34:26 PM
Nope...They would somehow end up at F&M
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NERevs127 on October 16, 2015, 12:35:06 AM
I agree that if Oneonta wins out and with their SOS they could host to the Final 4.

However, I remember watching the live stream of the 16/8 games last year and their field looked dreadful! None of the traveling teams were happy with the field condition so that might have a factor in the decision making process of whether they get to host or not
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 16, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
It's a beautiful field but if you remember it was all snow up that way for those games so to even have it playable was impressive. Don't think anyone should have expected a pristine field condition after the weather that the region got. 

Muhlenberg's field was equally bad if not worse. It looked like a cow pasture. Messiah players were not to happy about playing on it either, but at the same time it's not just one team playing on it its both teams so there is no real disadvantage that can be called out for. Both teams are playing vs each other on the same field conditions.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NERevs127 on October 16, 2015, 10:20:16 AM
Very fair point. Always difficult to determine the weather factor while watching the games from the comfort of your couch
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 16, 2015, 11:07:07 AM
Yeah if either school had turf there wouldn't have been an issue at all. I always preferred grass when I was a player back in the stone age but wasn't against turf by any means.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 16, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
If I remember correctly not only was Oneonta's and Muhlenberg's field in horrible condition the Live Streams for all games at both sites was horrific. I noticed this year Oneonta's Live Stream has improved greatly
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 19, 2015, 01:26:18 PM
As of 10/19/15:

Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Oneonta St.
Thomas More

Elite 8:
Loras
Whitewater
Montclair St.
Kenyon
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: PaulNewman on October 19, 2015, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 19, 2015, 01:26:18 PM
As of 10/19/15:

Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Oneonta St.
Thomas More

Elite 8:
Loras
Whitewater
Montclair St.
Kenyon

Because of bracketing your final four is very unlikely.  You could get 3 of those, though.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Golden_Fan on October 19, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 16, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
If I remember correctly not only was Oneonta's and Muhlenberg's field in horrible condition the Live Streams for all games at both sites was horrific. I noticed this year Oneonta's Live Stream has improved greatly


Oneonta now has turf, and the fiber optic cable explains the streaming

"In the summer of 2015, the field was renovated and a new field turf surface was installed.  The new surface on the field is Revolution Turf, which was the exact surface that the 2015 Women's World Cup was played on.  The field will be lined for both soccer and lacrosse, which will expand the facility's current use, while opening it up for expanded campus recreation and intramurals.  As part of the project a new scoreboard was installed along with new fiber optic cable for streaming."

http://www.oneontaathletics.com/sports/2010/7/14/FAC_0714101106.aspx?path=facilities (http://www.oneontaathletics.com/sports/2010/7/14/FAC_0714101106.aspx?path=facilities)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: TennesseeJed on October 19, 2015, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 19, 2015, 02:19:45 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 16, 2015, 01:40:17 PM
If I remember correctly not only was Oneonta's and Muhlenberg's field in horrible condition the Live Streams for all games at both sites was horrific. I noticed this year Oneonta's Live Stream has improved greatly


Oneonta now has turf, and the fiber optic cable explains the streaming

"In the summer of 2015, the field was renovated and a new field turf surface was installed.  The new surface on the field is Revolution Turf, which was the exact surface that the 2015 Women's World Cup was played on.  The field will be lined for both soccer and lacrosse, which will expand the facility's current use, while opening it up for expanded campus recreation and intramurals.  As part of the project a new scoreboard was installed along with new fiber optic cable for streaming."

http://www.oneontaathletics.com/sports/2010/7/14/FAC_0714101106.aspx?path=facilities (http://www.oneontaathletics.com/sports/2010/7/14/FAC_0714101106.aspx?path=facilities)

I know Oneonta is public, but for the tuition rates most of the private dIII's charge now (many now >$60k/yr w/o aid), I'd love to see all schools upgrading their video delivery systems!  So many games are virtually unable to be followed due to poor video quality broadcasts.  There are a notable few schools that have fantastic video.  Congrats to Oneonta and their fans.  Hope to see others follow suit.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 03:06:18 PM
Final 4:

Oneonta St.
Amherst
OWU
Loras

Elite 8:

Platts. St.
Brandeis
Messiah
Montclair St.

(Sweet 16) RV: Haverford/Lycoming, Tufts, Middlebury, Rowan/Etown, Kenyon, Calvin, UWW/Trinity

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:08:33 PM
Lol Messiah in the Elite 8.....They will need to beat Lycoming 1st before even getting into the NCAA's
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:08:33 PM
Lol Messiah in the Elite 8.....They will need to beat Lycoming 1st before even getting into the NCAA's

Almost as funny as Skidmore making NCAA's  8-)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
I never said Skidmore would make the NCAA's, I just said they are a VERY TOUGH TEAM to break down...Well organized and well coached and athletic enough to keep up with most teams....If you give me odds I will be happy to take Skidmore and SLU game this wknd
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 22, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
I never said Skidmore would make the NCAA's, I just said they are a VERY TOUGH TEAM to break down...Well organized and well coached and athletic enough to keep up with most teams....If you give me odds I will be happy to take Skidmore and SLU game this wknd

SLU wins 3-1...only goal for Skid is probably an own goal with the way they struggle to hit the side of a barn let alone a net.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Says this is a Final 4 Predictions thread, not sure why Skidmore or St. Lawrence for that matter are being brought up in the conversation.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Says this is a Final 4 Predictions thread, not sure why Skidmore or St. Lawrence for that matter are being brought up in the conversation.


Good question but we are talking about Shooter so it is understandable...


One comment for Shooter was that I asked him to give me odds on the SLU v Skidmore game. He did not but I am willing to put money on a 0-0 draw at SLU.

Now let's move on to the Final 4 predicitons
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Says this is a Final 4 Predictions thread, not sure why Skidmore or St. Lawrence for that matter are being brought up in the conversation.


Good question but we are talking about Shooter so it is understandable...


One comment for Shooter was that I asked him to give me odds on the SLU v Skidmore game. He did not but I am willing to put money on a 0-0 draw at SLU.

Now let's move on to the Final 4 predicitons

I gave you the 3-1 SLU scoreline with an own goal by SLU.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Says this is a Final 4 Predictions thread, not sure why Skidmore or St. Lawrence for that matter are being brought up in the conversation.


Good question but we are talking about Shooter so it is understandable...


One comment for Shooter was that I asked him to give me odds on the SLU v Skidmore game. He did not but I am willing to put money on a 0-0 draw at SLU.

Now let's move on to the Final 4 predicitons

I gave you the 3-1 SLU scoreline with an own goal by SLU.



NO NO ...since SLU is the prohibitive favorite if you give me odds I will be willing to bet Skidmore v SLU ends 0-0 or maybe 1-1....
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2015, 01:12:58 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 12:53:17 PM
Says this is a Final 4 Predictions thread, not sure why Skidmore or St. Lawrence for that matter are being brought up in the conversation.


Good question but we are talking about Shooter so it is understandable...


One comment for Shooter was that I asked him to give me odds on the SLU v Skidmore game. He did not but I am willing to put money on a 0-0 draw at SLU.

Now let's move on to the Final 4 predicitons

I gave you the 3-1 SLU scoreline with an own goal by SLU.



NO NO ...since SLU is the prohibitive favorite if you give me odds I will be willing to bet Skidmore v SLU ends 0-0 or maybe 1-1....

65/35 in favor of SLU
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Ok so lets do this....You throw down 300 bananas to win 150 from me for a SLU victory...

I throw down 300 bananas to win 450 from you if Skidmore wins or draws....


Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 23, 2015, 01:56:40 PM

yummm.. proverbial bananas.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Boards are getting interesting. Credit for the gusto Mr Right but @ SLU with the way they have been playing is a tough bet for Skidmore, maybe if the game was in Saratoga. However, two years ago Skidmore did go to Canton and got a 1-0 shutout. Neither teams the same but I'm intrigued to see what you two settle this bet with.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 23, 2015, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Ok so lets do this....You throw down 300 bananas to win 150 from me for a SLU victory...

I throw down 300 bananas to win 450 from you if Skidmore wins or draws....

Deal but can we make it Coors Lights...I don't need that many bananas.  :D
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: TheSwayzeTrain on October 23, 2015, 02:09:55 PM
Boards are getting interesting. Credit for the gusto Mr Right but @ SLU with the way they have been playing is a tough bet for Skidmore, maybe if the game was in Saratoga. However, two years ago Skidmore did go to Canton and got a 1-0 shutout. Neither teams the same but I'm intrigued to see what you two settle this bet with.




This is what I was referring to earlier when I said Adam Beek for Skidmore would show up and "play" for the BIG games like at SLU and at Williams,etc...I believe he scored the goal 2 years ago or created it. Of course, he then would disappear and look uninterested in games Skidmore would play that hey should have won. He was a great recruit from Kent School in Ct by former Head Coach Ron McCeachen. The former University of Vermont coach got the Skidmore job in 2001 but he never got them to the NCAA"s...He was forced out earlier then he wanted back in 2012 when Skidmore had I believe a hazing fiasco..Nevertheless, he had recruited a solid class with Beek etc...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Saint of Old on October 23, 2015, 05:34:02 PM
Mr. Right is correct.
Beek was something extremely special, but like many special players they get motivated when the lights are on.

He would have been a handful in the Dance, but was a great player nonetheless.

As for the Final four prediction:

Not sure how the brackets will shake out, but I think:
Kenyon/Oneonta/F+M/Stevens.

I wont add SLU because I'm not sure if my love is clouding my judgment.
I will say its the most talented SLU squad in the last 16 years though.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Jump4Joy on October 23, 2015, 06:13:52 PM
Saint, what would it take to get you to suppose that Amherst might be a final four contender this year? ;)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 24, 2015, 12:03:12 PM
Amherst might be the best team in the country RIGHT NOW but will Serpone finish it off....He is getting to be known as a choker in the NCAA's...I went thru year by year on another thread but his 2012 Amherst side was one of the best sides I had seen in a long long time...That PK loss to Williams was a massive choke job...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: backyarddawg on October 24, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
Mr Right you are a Serpone hater.

Since 2000 there have only been 6 college coaches that you cannot call chokers in NCAA.

Shapiro, Martin, Saward, Brandt & McCarthy, McGinley, Haines.

So that makes for over 400 chokers when it comes to the NCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 24, 2015, 12:30:40 PM
Quote from: backyarddawg on October 24, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
Mr Right you are a Serpone hater.

Since 2000 there have only been 6 college coaches that you cannot call chokers in NCAA.

Shapiro, Martin, Saward, Brandt & McCarthy, McGinley, Haines.

So that makes for over 400 chokers when it comes to the NCAA tournament.



I am not a Serpone hater, I am merely stating that Amherst has dominated the toughest conference in the country since he arrived in 2007 and should have won at least 1 if not 2 NCAA Championships in his 8 years...My point being with the talent he has had he should have at least gotten 3-4 sides to the Final 4...He got 1 in 2008 and that was his least talented side and basically the Gooding's recruits...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on October 24, 2015, 12:44:35 PM
Yes, Amherst should have a title...

They are like Wisconsin basketball
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Saint of Old on October 24, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Jump4Joy on October 23, 2015, 06:13:52 PM
Saint, what would it take to get you to suppose that Amherst might be a final four contender this year? ;)

Nothing at all.

I actually do think Amherst is s final 4 contender and the most consistent team in the country.

I just threw out 4 off the top of my head.

I even left out my boyz!

Trust me.
If Amherst climbs the mountain, I will be the first one on here offering congratulations.

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Jump4Joy on October 24, 2015, 06:29:19 PM
^ Fair nuff.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 25, 2015, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Ok so lets do this....You throw down 300 bananas to win 150 from me for a SLU victory...

I throw down 300 bananas to win 450 from you if Skidmore wins or draws....

I want my bananas Mr. Right.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 27, 2015, 12:52:23 PM
As of 10/27/15:

I have been doing this weekly so might as well keep it going.

Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Oneonta St.
Trinity (Texas)

Elite 8:
Tufts
Brandeis
Montclair St.
Kenyon
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Montclair St.
Ohio Wesleyan

Elite 8:
Oneonta St.
Brandeis
Kenyon
Messiah
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on October 27, 2015, 01:07:46 PM
I am most interested in who they put into Amherst bracket as the "#2" seed...Will it be Brandeis and Montclair St or another NJAC or will it be Oneonta and SLU...They might even send a Haverford up to Amherst for the Sweet 16...I know the NJAC and Centennial teams have come up to New England a lot recently in the last 10 years.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Flying Weasel on October 27, 2015, 01:08:38 PM
Shooter, just remember geography.  No team west of Ohio in the Elite 8 might be unrealistic.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 01, 2015, 07:47:24 AM
Trinity - Haverford - Kenyon - St Lawrence

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 01, 2015, 07:55:16 AM
Quote from: backyarddawg on October 24, 2015, 12:24:27 PM
Mr Right you are a Serpone hater.

Since 2000 there have only been 6 college coaches that you cannot call chokers in NCAA.

Shapiro, Martin, Saward, Brandt & McCarthy, McGinley, Haines.

So that makes for over 400 chokers when it comes to the NCAA tournament.
Trinity may be the biggest choke act of all? Perennially ranked in the top 5/10 yet they have not threatened to win it in the last 7 or 8 years.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 01, 2015, 07:58:58 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Montclair St.
Ohio Wesleyan

Elite 8:
Oneonta St.
Brandeis
Kenyon
Messiah
I lov people picking OWU - if they fail to beat DePauw this week they could miss the tourney entirely.

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Midwest Soccer on November 01, 2015, 08:59:57 AM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 01, 2015, 07:58:58 AM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 27, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Montclair St.
Ohio Wesleyan

Elite 8:
Oneonta St.
Brandeis
Kenyon
Messiah
I lov people picking OWU - if they fail to beat DePauw this week they could miss the tourney entirely.

Was the same situation last year....doesn't matter how you get in?

The loser of that game could be squarely on the bubble, although I think both are deserving of bids.


Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2015, 01:28:24 PM
Final 4
Amherst
Loras
Oneonta St.
Haverford


Elite 8
Brandeis
Trinity
Montclair St.
St. Lawrence

Two others that can make a deep run and fly under the radar is Lycoming and Ohio Wesleyan. Both teams are perfectly built to run the table in crunch time.


Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 05, 2015, 01:45:58 PM
I actually think if Middlebury gets in they are really built for this tournament. Athletic, Great GK, Size advantage on any team in most positions, Strong spine, 2 legit strikers. With their direct style and formation they are one of the hardest teams to break down. Now if they went out and won Nescac championship and somehow could host until the Final 4, that is another MAJOR advantage for them. They have not lost at home in 2 years.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2015, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 05, 2015, 01:45:58 PM
I actually think if Middlebury gets in they are really built for this tournament. Athletic, Great GK, Size advantage on any team in most positions, Strong spine, 2 legit strikers. With their direct style and formation they are one of the hardest teams to break down. Now if they went out and won Nescac championship and somehow could host until the Final 4, that is another MAJOR advantage for them. They have not lost at home in 2 years.

YES!!!^^^^ I forgot about them. Add them to the list of under the radar teams built for this tournament.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2015, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:52:38 PM
Ok so lets do this....You throw down 300 bananas to win 150 from me for a SLU victory...

I throw down 300 bananas to win 450 from you if Skidmore wins or draws....

Still waiting for those bananas/Coors Lights Mr. Right......season's almost over. You are a man of your word correct?  ;)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 05, 2015, 03:50:12 PM
dude the game is not until Saturday..you haven't won yet
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 05, 2015, 03:51:47 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 05, 2015, 03:50:12 PM
dude the game is not until Saturday..you haven't won yet

This was from the bet we made 3 weeks ago...we can go double or nothing on the LL championship if you want? I got SLU 2 Skid 1 in OT.

You can calculate the bananas like last time.  8-)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 05, 2015, 03:54:26 PM

SLU 2-0 final.   3 to 1 odds.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: blooter442 on November 05, 2015, 04:15:49 PM
Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Loras
Trinity (Texas)

Elite 8:
Montclair St.
Kenyon
Middlebury
St. Lawrence

This is all based on gut feeling. Logically speaking, I think Amherst and Brandeis are the two most likely Elite 8 representatives from New England, and even if the Elite 8 game were to be played at Brandeis I think Amherst would win it on Brandeis' carpet. But you never know. Either way, not sure the Judges are an Elite 8/Final 4 team despite the rankings, and also despite them being my team.

Yes, I know Middlebury being in there seems ridiculous, especially considering they're by no means guaranteed a place, but I think they're well-suited to this tournament for all of the reasons mentioned - mostly that they're difficult to break down. That said, they were simply awful when I saw them against Tufts, and a lack of cutting edge will see them fall short of the Final 4, and probably even the Elite 8.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: PaulNewman on November 05, 2015, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: blooter442 on November 05, 2015, 04:15:49 PM
Final 4:
Amherst
Haverford
Loras
Trinity (Texas)

Elite 8:
Montclair St.
Kenyon
Middlebury
St. Lawrence

This is all based on gut feeling. Logically speaking, I think Amherst and Brandeis are the two most likely Elite 8 representatives from New England, and even if the Elite 8 game were to be played at Brandeis I think Amherst would win it on Brandeis' carpet. But you never know. Either way, not sure the Judges are an Elite 8/Final 4 team despite the rankings, and also despite them being my team.

Yes, I know Middlebury being in there seems ridiculous, especially considering they're by no means guaranteed a place, but I think they're well-suited to this tournament for all of the reasons mentioned - mostly that they're difficult to break down. That said, they were simply awful when I saw them against Tufts, and a lack of cutting edge will see them fall short of the Final 4, and probably even the Elite 8.

Bloots, Trinity and Loras will almost certainly be in the same section, and Midd would likely be with either SLU or Montclair, although this is a crazy year so who knows.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: blooter442 on November 05, 2015, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: NCAC New England on November 05, 2015, 05:38:30 PM
Bloots, Trinity and Loras will almost certainly be in the same section, and Midd would likely be with either SLU or Montclair, although this is a crazy year so who knows.

I had a suspicion that would be the case, but stranger things have happened and I can't say who else I would put to make a more geographically diverse yet equally likely bracket. If 2014 was "Year of the Jumbo," 2015 is "Year of the Crapshoot."
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on November 06, 2015, 09:16:04 AM
Final 4
Oneonta St.
Haverford
Montclair St.
Kenyon

Elite 8
Ohio Wesleyan
Amherst
Trinity
Loras

Not sure if this works geographically...doesn't look to off does it?

And if we are doing a "Next 2" thing I would put Wheaton(Ill) and F&M in it.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 06, 2015, 09:22:59 AM
Geographically this could be an elite 8

Elite 8
Trinity vs Loras
Amherst vs Middlebury/SLU
Haverford vs Oneonta St/NJAC school
Kenyon vs Calvin

I don't think we will see Oneonta St in the same pod as Amherst and Middlebury


Three byes:
Calvin, Kenyon (if win AQ), Amherst


Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 06, 2015, 10:08:52 AM
I would like to see SLU in a different pod than Amherst this year. They are always bunched in with Amherst or Williams and just have had some terrible luck in some of those contests. With Durocher leading the East region committee this year I would imagine he would like to mix it up as well. Hard to do geographically but a possibility. If you can send NJAC schools to Middlebury circa 2006-2008, then you can send NJAC schools to SLU or vice versa.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: SandyMac on November 06, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
I'm obviously biased, but I'm also sick of seeing SLU get stuck with a NESCAC team ranked top 5 nationally in the second round.  They've had either Amherst (3x) or Williams (1x) 4 of the past 5 years in the round of 32, which is just brutal.  I'd love to see the bracket get a little shuffle, and see SLU match up against a team like Montclair St. or MIT.  SLU knocked off Midd at a Neutral site in NJ in 2008 (I believe), and I'm shocked that they haven't had more competition in the Metro NY/NJ area since.

Of course, as a traveling alum, I'd just like for them to play in a fun city  ;D
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 06, 2015, 11:46:23 AM
SLU knocked off Midd in 2006 at NYU and then totally blew a great chance to get to the 2006 Final 4 against NYU.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: SandyMac on November 06, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
This SLU team is an interesting mix of seasoned veterans with NCAA experience, and hugely talented freshmen who are carrying the offensive load. 

It will be interesting to see how they react come tourney time.  Hopefully for the Saints, the freshmen aren't overwhelmed by the occasion and come continue to bang in the goals.

Defense, wins championships, right? 6 goals against in 17 games, 12 shutouts...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 06, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on August 25, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
Player with most goals in 2015?  Mike Ryan  (Golz, Colofranson, someone from CSS).     

Team with the most shutouts?  Kenyon

Will a team go unbeaten before the tourney this year?   No

Longest unbeaten streak?  Wheaton Ill (gonna be tough going into Loras and getting the W).

Over/under Messiah losses... 3.5?  (over)

Over/under Tufts losses... 4  (over)

FINAL FOUR PREDICTIONS:  Wheaton Ill, Trinity, Amherst, Rutgers-Camden    (Elite 8:  Loras, Ohio Wesleyan, SLU, Oneonta St).   Messiah bows out in Sweet 16.

I'll have to remind myself to check this come tournament time... haha.


Well it looks like someone from CSS will take the most goals for the season

Hopefully I'm wrong with the unbeaten streak, because Calvin will earn a Pool C if not...

Bad calls on Kenyon with the most shutouts...

Even more of a bad call with Wheaton (Ill)

Winner with Messiah over and push with Tufts.

Let's see how this final 4 pans out... 
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Saint of Old on November 06, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: SandyMac on November 06, 2015, 11:57:45 AM
This SLU team is an interesting mix of seasoned veterans with NCAA experience, and hugely talented freshmen who are carrying the offensive load. 

It will be interesting to see how they react come tourney time.  Hopefully for the Saints, the freshmen aren't overwhelmed by the occasion and come continue to bang in the goals.

Defense, wins championships, right? 6 goals against in 17 games, 12 shutouts...

I don't ever remember seeing a SLU team this young.
I think 1994 was the closest.
You are correct though, senior leadership will have to take them the rest of the way.

Big few weeks coming up for #4, 21 and 14.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 02:10:20 PM
Trinity, Oneonta St, Loras, MSU.

Haverford, Amherst, Wheaton, Calvin (elite 8)
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: blooter442 on November 09, 2015, 02:12:19 PM
Super meta and boring but really who else can you say?

Amherst
Haverford
Loras
Montclair State

That said, Tufts will be upset-minded and I could see them knocking out MSU. Still would pick MSU from that quadrant.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 22, 2015, 03:08:33 PM
Lol Messiah in the Elite 8.....They will need to beat Lycoming 1st before even getting into the NCAA's
You were right!
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on November 09, 2015, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 02:10:20 PM

Trinity, Oneonta St, Loras, MSU.

I can see Oneonta getting upset in the second round to Camden...tough draw for them. You know I didn't believe Camden shouldn't have been in if they lost the NJAC playoffs but I never said they weren't a good team  ;D
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 09, 2015, 02:13:08 PM
Amherst is going to cruise to the Elite 8. If Trinity TX does not get upset that would be an Elite 8 rematch of 2008 in which Amherst prevailed in PK's.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mr.Right on November 09, 2015, 02:17:12 PM
Also, If Trinity gets to Elite 8 to face Amherst that will be up here in Massachusetts. Not exactly San Antonio weather. Advantage Amherst.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NJrexSoccer03 on November 09, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
Amherst, Rutgers-Camden :o, Loras, Monclair St.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 06, 2015, 09:22:59 AM
Geographically this could be an elite 8

Elite 8
Trinity vs Loras
Amherst vs Middlebury/SLU
Haverford vs Oneonta St/NJAC school
Kenyon vs Calvin

I don't think we will see Oneonta St in the same pod as Amherst and Middlebury


Three byes:
Calvin, Kenyon (if win AQ), Amherst

Okay, so we have two of the four above Elite 8 possible match-ups.

Cannot believe Middlebury was shunned with a PK result in post-season...

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 02:40:14 PM
16
Amherst
Lycoming
Stevens
Trinity
Haverford
SLU
Eastern
Plattsburgh
Loras
DePauw
Macalester
Wheaton
Montclair
Kenyon
CMU
OWU

8
Amherst
Stevens
SLU
Plattsburgh
DePauw
Wheaton
Kenyon
CMU

4
Stevens
SLU
Wheaton
Kenyon

Final
Kenyon
SLU

Winner
Kenyon
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: blooter442 on November 09, 2015, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on November 09, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
Amherst, Rutgers-Camden :o, Loras, Monclair St.

Bold - I like it!
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 02:43:01 PM

If Camden can get by Oneonta St and SLU gets by Haverford... can see the Scarlet Raptors heading to KC.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Saint of Old on November 09, 2015, 02:57:22 PM
Brandeis/Ohio Wesleyan/Wheaton/SLU

An all champion final 4?


Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: SandyMac on November 09, 2015, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 02:40:14 PM
16
Amherst
Lycoming
Stevens
Trinity
Haverford
SLU
Eastern
Plattsburgh
Lords
DePauw
Macalester
Wheaton
Montclair
Kenyon
CMU
OWU

8
Amherst
Stevens
SLU
Plattsburgh
DePauw
Wheaton
Kenyon
CMU

4
Stevens
SLU
Wheaton
Kenyon

Final
Kenyon
SLU

Winner
Kenyon

Bold. I like it, except for the final!
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
If I had a dollar every time I've heard "the UAA is strong this year" around tourney time, I'd be rich.
The conference is over rated as shown by its performance in the tourney over the last decade.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: CovensCorner on November 09, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
If I had a dollar every time I've heard "the UAA is strong this year" around tourney time, I'd be rich.
The conference is over rated as shown by its performance in the tourney over the last decade.

Sounds like Amherst every year going into the tournament.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: CovensCorner on November 09, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
If I had a dollar every time I've heard "the UAA is strong this year" around tourney time, I'd be rich.
The conference is over rated as shown by its performance in the tourney over the last decade.

Sounds like Amherst every year going into the tournament.

If I had a dollar for everytime the UAA made the final four... Id have like.... 4 bucks!
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Mid-Atlantic Fan on November 09, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
Elite 8:
Amherst
Brandeis
Loras
Wheaton
Haverford
Oneonta St.
Tufts
OWU


Final 4:
Brandeis
Oneonta St.
Loras
Ohio Wesleyan

Championship:
Oneonta St.
Loras

Winner:
Oneonta St.
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: pelinho5 on November 09, 2015, 07:23:18 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: CovensCorner on November 09, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
If I had a dollar every time I've heard "the UAA is strong this year" around tourney time, I'd be rich.
The conference is over rated as shown by its performance in the tourney over the last decade.

Sounds like Amherst every year going into the tournament.

If I had a dollar for everytime the UAA made the final four... Id have like.... 4 bucks!


Let me remind all of you, and I have to do this every single year, but being compensated for the performance of a team in the NCAA is illegal, "The NCAA opposes all forms of legal and illegal sports wagering, which has the potential to undermine the integrity of sports contests and jeopardizes the welfare of student-athletes and the intercollegiate athletics community".

Like, letthekidsplay59, I truly believe that the UAA is very strong this year! But not 4 teams strong! I am going to predict Carthage College (sleeper), Chicago, Brandeis, and Calvin. Let's not forget that the Calvin Knights schalacked a (in my opinion) national quality Kalamzoo Dodgers AWAY a mere 10 days ago.

Also how Wabash didn't get in, astounds me.

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 10, 2015, 09:49:50 AM
Sweet 16
Amherst
Lycoming
Brandeis
Whitworth
------------------
Haverford
SLU
Oneonta St.
Bridgewater St.
------------------
Loras
Wash. U
UWO
Wheaton
------------------
Tufts
Kenyon
F&M
OWU

Elite 8
Lycoming
Brandeis
---------------
SLU
Oneonta St.
---------------
Loras
Wheaton
---------------
Tufts
OWU

Final 4
Brandies
Oneonta St.
-----------------
Loras
OWU

Final
Oneonta St.
Loras

Champion
Oneonta St.






Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NERevs127 on November 10, 2015, 10:26:21 AM
Sweet 16
Cabrini
Lycoming
Brandeis
Trinty TX

Haverford
St. Lawrence
Oneonta St.
Bowdoin

Ohio Northern
Wash U
Wis-Oshkosh
Wheaton

Montclair St
Kenyon
Carnegie
Calvin

Elite 8
Lycoming
Brandeis
Haverford
Oneonta St
Wash U
Wheaton
Kenyon
Calvin

Final Four
Brandeis
Haverford
Wheaton
Kenyon

Championship
Brandeis 0
Kenyon 1
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: wingtips2 on November 10, 2015, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: pelinho5 on November 09, 2015, 07:23:18 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Quote from: CovensCorner on November 09, 2015, 03:11:27 PM
Quote from: wingtips2 on November 09, 2015, 03:07:59 PM
Quote from: Letthekidsplay59 on November 09, 2015, 02:52:17 PM
Calling a Brandeis, Chicago, Washington, Carnegie Mellon final four. Uaa is strong this year.
If I had a dollar every time I've heard "the UAA is strong this year" around tourney time, I'd be rich.
The conference is over rated as shown by its performance in the tourney over the last decade.

Sounds like Amherst every year going into the tournament.

If I had a dollar for everytime the UAA made the final four... Id have like.... 4 bucks!

Also how Wabash didn't get in, astounds me.
Never thought I'd hear that line...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: lastguyoffthebench on November 15, 2015, 05:12:26 PM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on November 09, 2015, 02:10:20 PM
Trinity, Oneonta St, Loras, MSU.

Haverford, Amherst, Wheaton, Calvin (elite 8)

Shoulda went with my head instead of my heart for the bracket pool...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: NEsoccerfan on November 16, 2015, 01:44:41 PM
Amherst
Trinity
Haverford
Oneonta
Loras
Wheaton
Kenyon
Calvin

Trinity
Oneonta
Wheaton
Kenyon

Oneonta
Kenyon

Oneonta

Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 16, 2015, 02:03:09 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 10, 2015, 09:49:50 AM
Sweet 16
Amherst
Lycoming
Brandeis
Whitworth
------------------
Haverford
SLU
Oneonta St.
Bridgewater St.
------------------
Loras
Wash. U
UWO
Wheaton
------------------
Tufts
Kenyon
F&M
OWU

Elite 8
Lycoming
Brandeis
---------------
SLU
Oneonta St.
---------------
Loras
Wheaton
---------------
Tufts
OWU

Final 4
Brandies
Oneonta St.
-----------------
Loras
OWU

Final
Oneonta St.
Loras

Champion
Oneonta St.


Haven't changed mine too much from the start of the tournament to now...
Lycoming
Brandeis
Haverford
Oneonta
Loras
Wheaton
Tufts
F&M
--------------
Lycoming
Oneonta
Loras
Tufts
--------------
Oneonta
Loras
--------------
Oneonta
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 24, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Amherst, Oneonta St, Loras, Calvin are my final 4 predictions...
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: firstplaceloser on November 24, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 24, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Amherst, Oneonta St, Loras, Calvin are my final 4 predictions...

explain to us your method to come up with this genius selection
Title: Re: Final 4 Predictions
Post by: Shooter McGavin on November 24, 2015, 05:31:29 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 24, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 24, 2015, 04:17:23 PM
Amherst, Oneonta St, Loras, Calvin are my final 4 predictions...

explain to us your method to come up with this genius selection

+K  ;D