The CUNYAC Championship game is tonight; I think that'll be the first team to qualify for this year's tournament. It's time to get this thread going.
Brooklyn is the first team in. They've got size, speed, and shooting. Not sure about the depth or defense, but they should be a tough out. They're missing two 6'7" post players, both out with injury; save those losses, this could've been a Top 10 team.
AQ Teams in the 2016 NCAA D3 Tournament:
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Emory - UAA
Old Westbury - Skyline
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Westminster - SLIAC
Delaware Valley - MACF
AQ Teams in the 2016 NCAA D3 Tournament:
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Emory - UAA
Old Westbury - Skyline
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Westminster - SLIAC
Delaware Valley - MACF
Christopher Newport - CAC
Covenant - USAC
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
St. Norbert - MWC
Skidmore - LL
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Denison - NCAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Stockton - NJAC
Franklin & Marshall - CC
AQ Teams in the 2016 NCAA D3 Tournament:
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Emory - UAA
Old Westbury - Skyline
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Westminster - SLIAC
Delaware Valley - MACF
Christopher Newport - CAC
Covenant - USAC
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
St. Norbert - MWC
Skidmore - LL
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Denison - NCAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Stockton - NJAC
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
St. Vincent - PrAC
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Augustana - CCIW
Whitworth - NWC
AQ Teams in the 2016 NCAA D3 Tournament:
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Emory - UAA
Old Westbury - Skyline
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Westminster - SLIAC
Delaware Valley - MACF
Christopher Newport - CAC
Covenant - USAC
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
St. Norbert - MWC
Skidmore - LL
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Denison - NCAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Stockton - NJAC
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
St. Vincent - PrAC
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Augustana - CCIW
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
31 down 12 to go.
Six hours of good basketball on tap starting at noon today. Looks like all twelve games have a webcast. Hook the computer up to the big screen TV and enjoy. Doesn't get much better than this on a Sunday afternoon. 8-) Twelve meaningful games with twelve bids on the line. In eight of the games it's win or go home for the two participants.
Would it be terrible to ask the teams be sorted by region as well :)
Quote from: sac on February 28, 2016, 12:56:37 PM
Would it be terrible to ask the teams be sorted by region as well :)
We can move them around at some point - I've just been adding them as they qualified.
AQ Teams in the 2016 NCAA D3 Tournament (by region):
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
SUNY-Old Westbury - Skyline
Delaware Valley - MACF
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Stockton - NJAC
Emory - UAA
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Covenant - USAC
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Babson - NEWMAC
Middlebury - NESCAC
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
Skidmore - LL
Christopher Newport - CAC
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
St. Vincent - PrAC
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
Denison - NCAC
Augustana - CCIW
Westminster - SLIAC
St. Norbert - MWC
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
Beautiful thank you +!
Northeast
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Babson - NEWMAC
Middlebury - NESCAC
East
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
Skidmore - LL
Atlantic
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Stockton - NJAC
Old Westbury - Skyline
Delaware Valley - MACF
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Mid Atlantic
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
Christopher Newport - CAC
South
Emory - UAA
Covenant - USAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Great Lakes
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
St. Vincent - PrAC
Denison - NCAC
Central
Augustana - CCIW
St. Norbert - MWC
Westminster - SLIAC
West
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
You're missing Babson and Middlebury there.
Slower than Hoops Fan! But it is up there for use.
Copy and repost as needed to update
Northeast
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Babson - NEWMAC
Middlebury - NESCAC
Keene State - LEC
East
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
Skidmore - LL
Lancaster Bible - NEAC
Atlantic
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Stockton - NJAC
Old Westbury - Skyline
Delaware Valley - MACF
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Mid Atlantic
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
Christopher Newport - CAC
South
Emory - UAA
Covenant - USAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Texas Lutheran - SCAC
Great Lakes
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
St. Vincent - PrAC
Denison - NCAC
Pitt-Greensburg - AMCC
Mount St. Joseph - HCAC
Central
Augustana - CCIW
St. Norbert - MWC
Westminster - SLIAC
Benedictine - NACC
Oshkosh - WIAC
West
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
St. Olaf - MIAC
So cool to see a first timer from back near home make it to the show.. UPG Pitt Greensburg.... I remember when they were the smallest of the Pitt regional campus system... nothing but a tiny commuter only school... congrats Bobcats!!!
Now we have to make Titusville a D3 school!!!!
Northeast
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Babson - NEWMAC
Middlebury - NESCAC
Keene State - LEC
East
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
Skidmore - LL
Lancaster Bible - NEAC
Atlantic
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Stockton - NJAC
Old Westbury - Skyline
Delaware Valley - MACF
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Mid Atlantic
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
Christopher Newport - CAC
South
Emory - UAA
Covenant - USAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Texas Lutheran - SCAC
Lynchburg - ODAC
Birmingham Southern - SAA
Great Lakes
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
St. Vincent - PrAC
Denison - NCAC
Pitt-Greensburg - AMCC
Mount St. Joseph - HCAC
Central
Augustana - CCIW
St. Norbert - MWC
Westminster - SLIAC
Benedictine - NACC
UW-Oshkosh - WIAC
West
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
St Olaf - MIAC
You missed Oshkosh, Ralph.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 28, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
You missed Oshkosh, Ralph.
Thanks.
I guess that we only have the SAA left. Am I correct?
With 50% of the game played, Birmingham Southern leads 34 -15.
RT Sports is prepared to call this one for Birmingham Southern. ;D
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 28, 2016, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Hoops Fan on February 28, 2016, 04:50:05 PM
You missed Oshkosh, Ralph.
Thanks.
I guess that we only have the SAA left. Am I correct?
ODAC is still going on http://www.odaclive.com/sports/mbkb/2015-16/mbb-central
Northeast
Johnson & Wales - GNAC
Fitchburg - MASCAC
Endicott - CCC
Husson - NAC
Southern Vermont - NECC
Babson - NEWMAC
Middlebury - NESCAC
Keene State - LEC
Amherst - Pool C
Tufts - Pool C
Trinity - Pool C
WPI - Pool C
East
Cortland - SUNYAC
Hartwick - E8
Skidmore - LL
Lancaster Bible - NEAC
Oswego - Pool C
NYU - Pool C
Plattsburgh - Pool C
Atlantic
Brooklyn - CUNYAC
Stockton - NJAC
Old Westbury - Skyline
Delaware Valley - MACF
Gwynedd-Mercy - CSAC
Mid Atlantic
Franklin & Marshall - CC
Lycoming - MACC
Catholic - Landmark
Christopher Newport - CAC
Susquehanna - Pool C
Salisbury - Pool C
Scranton - Pool C
South
Emory - UAA
Covenant - USAC
Hardin-Simmons - ASC
Texas Lutheran - SCAC
Lynchburg - ODAC
Birmingham-Southern - SAA
Lagrange - Pool C
Great Lakes
John Carroll - OAC
Alma - MIAA
St. Vincent - PrAC
Denison - NCAC
Pitt-Greensburg - AMCC
Mount St. Joseph - HCAC
Hope - Pool C
Ohio Wesleyan - Pool C
Wooster - Pool C
Marietta - Pool C
Central
Augustana - CCIW
St. Norbert - MWC
Westminster - SLIAC
Benedictine - NACC
UW-Oshkosh - WIAC
North Central - Pool C
Elmhurst - Pool C
West
Central - IIAC
Northwestern - UMAC
Whitworth - NWC
Chapman - SCIAC
St Olaf - MIAC
St. Thomas - Pool C
Whitman - Pool C
The following schools are losing their D3 tourney virginity this March:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Special congrats are also in order for Lynchburg, which is making its first D3 tourney appearance since all the way back in 1979.
Wooster will be making their 14th consecutive NCAA D3 tournament appearance on Friday, breaking the record the Scots had shared with Potsdam St. (1978-90.)
Scranton will make their 27th D3 tournament appearance on Friday, pulling the Royals into a tie with Wittenberg for first in the D3 era in this category.
Congratulations to the Scots and Royals!
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
The following schools are losing their D3 tourney virginity this March:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Special congrats are also in order for Lynchburg, which is making its first D3 tourney appearance since all the way back in 1979.
Hmmm...
This is actually the men's virginity!
The Cowgirls under Julie Goodenough, later to coach at Okie State, were awesome 15 years ago.
One of Coach Goodenough's players, Kendra Anderson Hassel is taking UT-Tyler to the playoffs in her first season as a head coach.
LOL!
Two long tourney win streaks ended this year already - both IWU and Virginia Wesleyan had won at least one game in six consecutive NCAA tournaments. Neither made this field.
Whitworth and Wooster have the longest active streaks and will look to each add an 8th consecutive year.
Amherst is working on their 6th.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
The following schools are losing their D3 tourney virginity this March:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Special congrats are also in order for Lynchburg, which is making its first D3 tourney appearance since all the way back in 1979.
Hmmm...
This is actually the men's virginity!
The Cowgirls under Julie Goodenough, later to coach at Okie State, were awesome 15 years ago.
One of Coach Goodenough's players, Kendra Anderson Hassel is taking UT-Tyler to the playoffs in her first season as a head coach.
LOL!
Same thing here for Alma. The women won the National Championship back in 1992.
For what it's worth, I think the list of first time women's participants is Birmingham-Southern, Bluffton, Greenville, Lynchburg, SUNYIT and UC Santa Cruz.
Quote from: bballfan13 on March 01, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
The following schools are losing their D3 tourney virginity this March:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Special congrats are also in order for Lynchburg, which is making its first D3 tourney appearance since all the way back in 1979.
Hmmm...
This is actually the men's virginity!
The Cowgirls under Julie Goodenough, later to coach at Okie State, were awesome 15 years ago.
One of Coach Goodenough's players, Kendra Anderson Hassel is taking UT-Tyler to the playoffs in her first season as a head coach.
LOL!
Same thing here for Alma. The women won the National Championship back in 1992.
This is a men's basketball board, so the "men's" aspect of my post was implied.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2016, 05:21:36 PM
Quote from: bballfan13 on March 01, 2016, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2016, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 29, 2016, 09:55:40 PM
The following schools are losing their D3 tourney virginity this March:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Special congrats are also in order for Lynchburg, which is making its first D3 tourney appearance since all the way back in 1979.
Hmmm...
This is actually the men's virginity!
The Cowgirls under Julie Goodenough, later to coach at Okie State, were awesome 15 years ago.
One of Coach Goodenough's players, Kendra Anderson Hassel is taking UT-Tyler to the playoffs in her first season as a head coach.
LOL!
Same thing here for Alma. The women won the National Championship back in 1992.
This is a men's basketball board, so the "men's" aspect of my post was implied.
LOL!
For the newbies on the message boards, McMurry, my alma mater, and Hardin-Simmons (or Hardened Sinners, a Southern Baptist institution on the other side of the tracks in north Abilene) are very friendly competitive rivals.
Gregory set that one up way too easy to pass up! :)
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
*Standing Ovation*
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
How does Chapman feel about that? Will they be pressing from the opening tip?
Quote from: ronk on March 01, 2016, 09:53:27 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
How does Chapman feel about that? Will they be pressing from the opening tip?
Should be quite a contest to see who comes out on top.
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
Good catch. Updated:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Whitman
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 01, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
For the newbies on the message boards, McMurry, my alma mater, and Hardin-Simmons (or Hardened Sinners, a Southern Baptist institution on the other side of the tracks in north Abilene) are very friendly competitive rivals.
"Hardened Sinners" is one of my favorite "friendly competitive rivals" putdowns, Ralph!
Astronaut Scott Kelly returns home to earth tonight just in time for the D3 bball tourney; he left last year just after the tourney was decided; one must conclude that these are not coincidences. ;D
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
Good catch. Updated:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Whitman
How appropriate that Whitman is on the bottom....of this list.
Quote from: magicman on March 02, 2016, 04:12:03 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 01, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 01, 2016, 09:33:42 PM
The Whitman Missionaries have also never before enjoyed a position in the NCAA tournament, at least according to their website. (http://athletics.whitman.edu/news/2016/2/29/mens-basketball-earns-at-large-bid.aspx)
Good catch. Updated:
Alma
Covenant
Hardin-Simmons
Lancaster Bible
Mount St. Joseph
Pitt-Greensburg
Whitman
How appropriate that Whitman is on the bottom....of this list.
I think their roster is slim...
Since Whitman's never been in this thing before, you could say that they're a sampler of the D3 tourney experience this season.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 02, 2016, 06:17:26 PM
Since Whitman's never been in this thing before, you could say that they're a sampler of the D3 tourney experience this season.
How sweet!!!!
Folks, just five more hours to enter the men's D-III bracket challenge before tonight's tipoff!
https://d3challenge.com/login/register.php
Not much chatter here....
What's a "must see" 1st round match-up?
Stockton v Keene St.
Brooklyn v NYU
Elmhurst v Oshkosh
Wooster v Lancaster Bible
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 03, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Not much chatter here....
What's a "must see" 1st round match-up?
Stockton v Keene St.
Brooklyn v NYU
Elmhurst v Oshkosh
Wooster v Lancaster Bible
Scranton vs Lynchburg, if u haven't seen Brendan Boken play; he had < 100 points in high school but played behind 4 D1 players; now has a chance to break Scranton's career scoring mark in this game
I think J&W - Trinity should be pretty good and SVC - Tufts could be interesting.
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
The "worst" championship game that took place in 1 million simulations was Husson vs. Brooklyn. The "best" and most likely championship game was Augie vs. Benedictine (roughly 13% of the time).
As for the closest 1st round matchups, the simulation predicted the following games:
Cortland (50.8%) over WPI
Wooster (53.5%) over Lancaster Bible
LaGrange (56.9%) over Birmingham-Southern
Lynchburg (57%) over Scranton
Largest mismatches:
Augustana (99%) over Westminster (MO)
Ohio Wesleyan (93.1%) over Pitt-Greensburg
John Carroll (87.1%) over St. Vincent
Susquehanna (84.9%) over SUNY-Old Westbury
First two wins of the tournament: Hardin-Simmons and Whitman, the first NCAA Tournament wins in both programs histories.
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
The "worst" championship game that took place in 1 million simulations was Husson vs. Brooklyn. The "best" and most likely championship game was Augie vs. Benedictine (roughly 13% of the time).
As for the closest 1st round matchups, the simulation predicted the following games:
Cortland (50.8%) over WPI
Wooster (53.5%) over Lancaster Bible
LaGrange (56.9%) over Birmingham-Southern
Lynchburg (57%) over Scranton
Largest mismatches:
Augustana (99%) over Westminster (MO)
Ohio Wesleyan (93.1%) over Pitt-Greensburg
John Carroll (87.1%) over St. Vincent
Susquehanna (84.9%) over SUNY-Old Westbury
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 04, 2016, 12:06:50 AM
First two wins of the tournament: Hardin-Simmons and Whitman, the first NCAA Tournament wins in both programs histories.
My bias is that a cross country flight in the first round from one part of the country to another by the lower seed is about 8-10 points.
Even Wheaton IL has had that challenge when they were flown to UTDallas in 2010 and
lost to an ASC school. :o
Benedictine 89% chance of making Sweet 16.
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
Benedictine and Augustana are good teams this year that very well could take home the banner, but a 26.1% and 21% chance to win the whole thing!? That's almost even money those two vs. the field.
And Augie could potentially have to go through Hope (#9), Emory(#25), Whitworth (#3), Christopher Newport(#4), and Benidictine(#2) to do it... color me skeptical, but I might have to call your "adjustments" into question :)
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
The "worst" championship game that took place in 1 million simulations was Husson vs. Brooklyn. The "best" and most likely championship game was Augie vs. Benedictine (roughly 13% of the time).
As for the closest 1st round matchups, the simulation predicted the following games:
Cortland (50.8%) over WPI
Wooster (53.5%) over Lancaster Bible
LaGrange (56.9%) over Birmingham-Southern
Lynchburg (57%) over Scranton
Largest mismatches:
Augustana (99%) over Westminster (MO)
Ohio Wesleyan (93.1%) over Pitt-Greensburg
John Carroll (87.1%) over St. Vincent
Susquehanna (84.9%) over SUNY-Old Westbury
Do you have historical upset records? Would be fun to see if anything has surpassed the 1.1% chance my team had of beating St. Thomas last year and the 0.0% chance they had to get to the sweet 16.
Quote from: AO on March 04, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
The "worst" championship game that took place in 1 million simulations was Husson vs. Brooklyn. The "best" and most likely championship game was Augie vs. Benedictine (roughly 13% of the time).
As for the closest 1st round matchups, the simulation predicted the following games:
Cortland (50.8%) over WPI
Wooster (53.5%) over Lancaster Bible
LaGrange (56.9%) over Birmingham-Southern
Lynchburg (57%) over Scranton
Largest mismatches:
Augustana (99%) over Westminster (MO)
Ohio Wesleyan (93.1%) over Pitt-Greensburg
John Carroll (87.1%) over St. Vincent
Susquehanna (84.9%) over SUNY-Old Westbury
Do you have historical upset records? Would be fun to see if anything has surpassed the 1.1% chance my team had of beating St. Thomas last year and the 0.0% chance they had to get to the sweet 16.
+1! Thanks for recalling that game. I cannot think of another upset so y-u-u-u-u-g-e! (LOL!)
Challenging news for Augustana to begin the tournament....
http://www.qconline.com/sports/college_sports/aching-vikings-hope-to-cure-ills-with-strong-tourney-run/article_b189f492-ae34-5967-aac2-500b6e224cb5.html#.VtnicbsUnc4.facebook
Quote from: HOPEful on March 04, 2016, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
Benedictine and Augustana are good teams this year that very well could take home the banner, but a 26.1% and 21% chance to win the whole thing!? That's almost even money those two vs. the field.
And Augie could potentially have to go through Hope (#9), Emory(#25), Whitworth (#3), Christopher Newport(#4), and Benidictine(#2) to do it... color me skeptical, but I might have to call your "adjustments" into question :)
Understandable, but the adjustments I reference actually make it "less" likely that a favorite will win thus decreasing the top team's probabilities a bit. If you don't believe the rankings of a computer ranking system then you shouldn't trust these either.
Out of curiosity, what do you think Hope's chances of beating Augustana are?
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 04, 2016, 06:03:59 PM
Understandable, but the adjustments I reference actually make it "less" likely that a favorite will win thus decreasing the top team's probabilities a bit. If you don't believe the rankings of a computer ranking system then you shouldn't trust these either.
Out of curiosity, what do you think Hope's chances of beating Augustana are?
I was kidding with the bias suggestion ;) as for Hope's chances, it's hard to say. If Brock Benson and Harrison Blackledge can stay out of foul trouble and Hope can hit their 3s, 50:50. Otherwise, 20%?
What are the odds your center plays tomorrow?
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
Two long tourney win streaks ended this year already - both IWU and Virginia Wesleyan had won at least one game in six consecutive NCAA tournaments. Neither made this field.
Whitworth and Wooster have the longest active streaks and will look to each add an 8th consecutive year.
Amherst is working on their 6th.
Wooster won their first round game against Lancaster Bible so they have won at least one game in 8 consecutive NCAA tournaments.
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Quote from: augie_superfan on March 03, 2016, 06:46:27 PM
For those that are interested, I simulated the tournament 1 million times using win probabilities calculated from a Massey-like system but adjusting a little bit for the unpredictability of the tournament. The following link shows the chance that each team makes it to a given round. They will be updated with each round.
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney
The "worst" championship game that took place in 1 million simulations was Husson vs. Brooklyn. The "best" and most likely championship game was Augie vs. Benedictine (roughly 13% of the time).
As for the closest 1st round matchups, the simulation predicted the following games:
Cortland (50.8%) over WPI
Wooster (53.5%) over Lancaster Bible
LaGrange (56.9%) over Birmingham-Southern
Lynchburg (57%) over Scranton
Largest mismatches:
Augustana (99%) over Westminster (MO)
Ohio Wesleyan (93.1%) over Pitt-Greensburg
John Carroll (87.1%) over St. Vincent
Susquehanna (84.9%) over SUNY-Old Westbury
Do you have historical upset records? Would be fun to see if anything has surpassed the 1.1% chance my team had of beating St. Thomas last year and the 0.0% chance they had to get to the sweet 16.
Only other year I did something similar was 2012 so I don't have much to compare to but I would assume last year's run was the most unlikely in quite some time.
Stockton in OT.
Nice live stream feed.
Stockton is out!! Owwww TGISTGUSTOKN?$&@&?
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Boy, do I feel sorry for Jamir Haddon.
Wow, that's terrible. I can see how it can happen. You just have to feel bad for him.
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like you had lots of opportunities. "Multi-Region Topics" is starting to resemble DraftKings.com (he said, mildly annoyed.)
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like you had lots of opportunities. "Multi-Region Topics" is starting to resemble DraftKings.com (he said, mildly annoyed.)
Take it up with consumer affairs. :)
I honestly can't remember a first round that had this many nail-biters. I've had a lot of fun tracking the scoreboard and checking in on close games tonight. Because of all of the squeakers it feels as though I've seen a lot of different gyms this evening.
I give: who is Jamir Haddon, and why should I feel sorry for him?
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
I give: who is Jamir Haddon, and why should I feel sorry for him?
The Stockton - Keene game was tied late in OT. Stockton missed a shot and he fouled because I guess he didn't realize the score was tied not behind.
I saw Adrian do the same thing in a game in January, but they survived to laugh it off. A whole different thing in the NCAA's.
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
I give: who is Jamir Haddon, and why should I feel sorry for him?
The Stockton - Keene game was tied late in OT. Stockton missed a shot and he fouled because I guess he didn't realize the score was tied not behind.
I see. So what you're saying is he's Chris Webber.
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
I give: who is Jamir Haddon, and why should I feel sorry for him?
The Stockton - Keene game was tied late in OT. Stockton missed a shot and he fouled because I guess he didn't realize the score was tied not behind.
Yep. The score was 71-71 in overtime when Stockton's Marcus Harmon had his shot blocked with :05 remaining on the game clock. Matt Ozzella rebounded the ball for Keene State, and Jaymere Haddon (now that the box score's up I can see how the young man spells his name) immediately wrapped his arms around Ozzella. As pg04 surmised, it's pretty clear that Haddon thought that the Ospreys were trailing rather than tied.
Ozzella made one of two free throws, a long heave by the Ospreys at the buzzer was blocked, and the Owls walked off of Stockton's floor with the upset win.
Apropos of nothing, our friend hplc2222, aka the Romanian Spambot, was going nuts in the in-game chat room, both at the end of this one and at the controversial end of the first game played at Stockton tonight, the Salisbury/Middlebury game in which a purported tip-in that would've tied the game with two-tenths of a second remaining was waved off because it was a catch rather than a tip-in.
Again, though, I feel very badly for Jaymere Haddon. This is going to be hard for him to live with.
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:38:51 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
I give: who is Jamir Haddon, and why should I feel sorry for him?
The Stockton - Keene game was tied late in OT. Stockton missed a shot and he fouled because I guess he didn't realize the score was tied not behind.
I see. So what you're saying is he's Chris Webber.
In a sense, although you're the last person on d3boards.com whom I'd expect to make a D1 analogy, DC. ;)
I saw that guy in the chatroom too. I am glad that I didn't have a log-in. He is still bombarding hoopsville on twitter with various accounts. Saying the NCAA selections are due to racist math. Yes, that's one thing I saw. Nevertheless people keep reporting all his accounts for spam.
The fun part? There's virtually no way to avoid a second round flight in the lower right now. With Middlebury and Keene playing each other, no one can drive to Christopher Newport. We're guessing Gwynedd-Mercy can't host (too small) - so that means, perhaps driving Wooster and Midd to Oswego and flying CNU up there? Lots of possibilities, obviously, none of them good.
The bottom right is a complete mess! Where do we send that sectional now (because remember Wooster/Endicott and Keene/Middlebury are both more than 500 miles from Newport), while I don't think any of the remaining schools are within 500 miles of Wooster (maybe Oswego only??) Bottom left isn't looking too much better in that regard either with Plattsburgh out and the Amherst men getting shipped out on the road next weekend. I have a feeling there will be some bad hosts next weekend.
Wooster can get to more places than you would expect, including NYU (and even now-eliminated Stockton). However, if the Scots win, my guess is that this group will end up in Oswego, flying in CNU if needed.
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like you had lots of opportunities. "Multi-Region Topics" is starting to resemble DraftKings.com (he said, mildly annoyed.)
Sorry you're mildly annoyed, Dave. ;D I like fantasy sports because it gets me more involved in games, teams and players I normally wouldn't. Someone posted recently that if it wasn't for the fantasy leagues, they wouldn't be watching certain games, checking live stats and be interested in the tourney. Getting more interest in D3 and the tournament can only be a good thing. We don't play for money, we play for fun and it's a nice mutual topic to chat and discuss basketball (and boxscores) with fellow posters. I think its also fun for those who don't play and just lurk on our leagues. I even bet there are players that keep tabs on the leagues (who drafted me etc).
Updated probabilities after the round 1 games
https://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney/2016-tourney1
Hopefully another great slate of games tonight following yesterday's excitement.
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like you had lots of opportunities. "Multi-Region Topics" is starting to resemble DraftKings.com (he said, mildly annoyed.)
I've said we need a subforum like football has. Then we can have everything in separate threads and not clutter the boards up.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 05, 2016, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 04, 2016, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 04, 2016, 10:00:32 PM
Plenty of upsets to go around tonight. Catholic, Plattsburgh, North Central, and now Marietta all go down.
Yes basically any team that I chose in the fantasy leagues run by Greek.
Well, if it's any consolation, it looks like you had lots of opportunities. "Multi-Region Topics" is starting to resemble DraftKings.com (he said, mildly annoyed.)
I've said we need a subforum like football has. Then we can have everything in separate threads and not clutter the boards up.
Yes, this is what I'm getting at. I don't object to the fantasy leagues, but I'm not crazy about having them "cluttering" up the multi-region room.
Am I crazy (don't answer that), or did Endicott used to be known as the Power Gulls?
Down goes John Carroll, and just like that a promising season for the OAC fizzles out.
I can't remember a pod that's ever had three more tense and interesting finishes as the two played last night and the one tonight at Stockton.
Eleven finals so far, and eight of those were white-knuckle jobs: three were three-point margins, one was a 2-point game, two were decided by a single point, and two more went to OT.
The SUNYAC teams went 1-1 tonight, with a point differential of 0. Oswego wins by 1, Cortland lost by 1. Imagine me trying to watch both games as they both come to final shots.
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
The SUNYAC teams went 1-1 tonight, with a point differential of 0. Oswego wins by 1, Cortland lost by 1. Imagine me trying to watch both games as they both come to final shots.
And Cortland, which beat Oswego 3 times, goes home while Oswego plays on and likely will host a sectional. Basketball can be cruel.
The way the bracket broke down ended up being kinder to Oswego. I'll be interested how they decide the host of that crazy sectional.
If Oswego hosts, then only one flight is needed (CNU). Any other host requires more flights, so that would seem to make the decision.
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 05, 2016, 09:54:41 PM
If Oswego hosts, then only one flight is needed (CNU). Any other host requires more flights, so that would seem to make the decision.
Although I'm happy Oswego will likely host, obviously, I feel bad for CNU who certainly
deserves to host. But "deserve" doesn't necessarily fit in the money game.
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 05, 2016, 09:54:41 PM
If Oswego hosts, then only one flight is needed (CNU). Any other host requires more flights, so that would seem to make the decision.
Although I'm happy Oswego will likely host, obviously, I feel bad for CNU who certainly deserves to host. But "deserve" doesn't necessarily fit in the money game.
CNU hosting would require 3 flights, as none of the others (Wooster, Oswego, Keene St., L to R) are within 500 miles of Newport News. Oswego could get to Ohio or New Hampshire, but Keene and Wooster would fly to each other. So long story short, pick the top seed and pay for three flights, or ignore seeding and take the money saving option. I'm giving odds on the decision; any takers?
Quote from: David Collinge on March 05, 2016, 10:04:48 PM
Quote from: pg04 on March 05, 2016, 09:59:37 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 05, 2016, 09:54:41 PM
If Oswego hosts, then only one flight is needed (CNU). Any other host requires more flights, so that would seem to make the decision.
Although I'm happy Oswego will likely host, obviously, I feel bad for CNU who certainly deserves to host. But "deserve" doesn't necessarily fit in the money game.
CNU hosting would require 3 flights, as none of the others (Wooster, Oswego, Keene St., L to R) are within 500 miles of Newport News. Oswego could get to Ohio or New Hampshire, but Keene and Wooster would fly to each other. So long story short, pick the top seed and pay for three flights, or ignore seeding and take the money saving option. I'm giving odds on the decision; any takers?
I think the odds are in your favor. ;D - especially when other fights are already a necessity due to the NWC battle.
As for the other three sectionals:
* Either Augustana or St. Thomas can host the two fly-in teams (Emory and the Whitman @ Whitworth winner), but it appears that Augie's the higher seed, so I suspect that this sectional will be held in Rock Island.
* St. Norbert and Ohio Wesleyan aren't within 500 miles of each other, but it won't matter -- top seed Benedictine's within bus reach of both of them as well as Alma. This sectional will be held in west suburban Chicagoland.
* All four survivors in the remaining section are New England teams, so this sectional won't have geography problems. Amherst is a higher seed than Tufts, J&W, and Babson, so The Artist Formerly Known As Lord Jeff will host at LeFrak Gym in western Massachusetts.
The Amherst women are also in a position to host so won't they get the priority?
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 05, 2016, 10:24:12 PM
As for the other three sectionals:
* Either Augustana or St. Thomas can host the two fly-in teams (Emory and the Whitman @ Whitworth winner), but it appears that Augie's the higher seed, so I suspect that this sectional will be held in Rock Island.
* St. Norbert and Ohio Wesleyan aren't within 500 miles of each other, but it won't matter -- top seed Benedictine's within bus reach of both of them as well as Alma. This sectional will be held in west suburban Chicagoland.
* All four survivors in the remaining section are New England teams, so this sectional won't have geography problems. Amherst is a higher seed than Tufts, J&W, and Babson, so The Artist Formerly Known As Lord Jeff will host at LeFrak Gym in western Massachusetts.
I confess that I know little about the factors that go into hosting, and I know even less about women's basketball, but my understanding is that for this round the Amherst men must yield to the Amherst women. I have also been informed that our women are (once again) damn good and deserve to host in their own right so I think the men will have to be on the road but I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.
I think you're right but I don't which of Babson, JW or Tufts would host.
Dave McHugh, on Twitter, predicted these hosts:
Augustana
Benedictine
Babson
Oswego
I am pretty sure that you are right that the Women get the priority next weekend.
Women do have the priority... and the twist I also tweeted was that if the women go with Scranton over Tufts or someone else over Amherst (unlikely)... then Amherst or Tufts would host over Babson. I am predicting they go with Amherst and Tufts as hosts.
...and down goes Whitworth!
One of the worst announcing jobs I have heard in a long time... and I have developed a long rope for them in the NCAA tournament.
I need to correct my perdictions for hosts:
Augustana
Benedictine
Oswego
Tufts
CNU women can't get to Tufts, so that host will most likely be Scranton freeing up Tufts to host over Babson because they are ranked higher.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 05, 2016, 10:24:12 PM
As for the other three sectionals:
* Either Augustana or St. Thomas can host the two fly-in teams (Emory and the Whitman @ Whitworth winner), but it appears that Augie's the higher seed, so I suspect that this sectional will be held in Rock Island.
* St. Norbert and Ohio Wesleyan aren't within 500 miles of each other, but it won't matter -- top seed Benedictine's within bus reach of both of them as well as Alma. This sectional will be held in west suburban Chicagoland.
* All four survivors in the remaining section are New England teams, so this sectional won't have geography problems. Amherst is a higher seed than Tufts, J&W, and Babson, so The Artist Formerly Known As Lord Jeff will host at LeFrak Gym in western Massachusetts.
Women get priority next round, so the St. Thomas women probably host there while the Amherst women will almost certainly hold that, so the Amherst men likely get shipped off to Tufts along with J&W and Babson (I don't think Babson seats enough to host, but if they do it's probably at Babson).
7express... Babson hosted last season the same weekend... they seat plenty.
Here are my predictions:
MBB:
Augustana
Benedictine
Oswego
Tufts
WBB:
Amherst
Scranton
St. Thomas
Thomas More
Ok thanks for the clarification Dave!
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 01, 2016, 12:00:48 PM
Two long tourney win streaks ended this year already - both IWU and Virginia Wesleyan had won at least one game in six consecutive NCAA tournaments. Neither made this field.
Whitworth and Wooster have the longest active streaks and will look to each add an 8th consecutive year.
Amherst is working on their 6th.
With Whitworth being upset last night, Wooster has the longest active streak of winning at least one game in the NCAA tourney at 8 years. Amherst is at 6.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 05, 2016, 11:49:40 PM
One of the worst announcing jobs I have heard in a long time... and I have developed a long rope for them in the NCAA tournament.
Yeah, I only tuned in with about 5 minutes left and it was pretty outrageous. I used to listen to Bob Castle quite a bit and expected better. He lost any sense of decorum, to say nothing of impartiality, when he objected to the hard foul at midcourt with 4 or so minutes left. He was even giving it to the ref, which would be unacceptable from a student much less a professional.
According to their websites, Tufts, Benedictine, Oswego and Augustana will serve as this weekend's sectional hosts.
Quote from: warriorcat on March 06, 2016, 04:12:34 PM
According to their websites, Tufts, Benedictine, Oswego and Augustana will serve as this weekend's sectional hosts.
http://www.d3hoops.com/playoffs/men/2016/sectional-hosts-announced
It may have been one of the best weekends of the Division III basketball tournaments in recent history. Upsets, close finishes, buzzer beaters, and more. Survive and advance hasn't fit better as a description than after the first two rounds of this year's championships.
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Is it safe to say Gwynedd Mercy over Marietta was the biggest upset of the opeing weekend?
Not even sure Wooster over Lancaster Bible was an upset, though Lancaster Bible was ranked. St. Olaf, Endicott, Fitchburg and Middlebury beat ranked teams. Only Fitchburg over Plattsburgh may be considered a big upset.
that was in the running... I think Keene State over Stockton is pretty good as well, but in terms of rankings... GMC over Marietta might take top billing.
Yeah, Stockton was the home favorite against Keene State, who finished 3rd in the LEC. But the NJAC is historically bad in the NCAAs.
Using KS's RPI the three biggest upsets by RPI position were
#97 Hardin-Simmons over #30 Tex Lutheran
#66 Gwynedd Mercy over #5 Marietta
#80 Keene St over #19 Stockton
Endicott over Catholic would be #1 by my calculations.
Yes definitely
#130 Endicott over #13 Catholic
Any word on Flannery's injury?
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 07, 2016, 06:43:45 PM
Any word on Flannery's injury?
At least we know what Flannery's injury is. We also know that there is a reasonable chance he may play this weekend.
There hasn't been one syllable spoken about Vincent Pace who is the leading scorer for Tufts and only played 15 seconds this past weekend. We don't know whether his injury was an ankle, a knee, a quad or a hamstring. I think Tufts will have their hands full, even at full strength, with a very athletic Johnson & Wales team that I watched play twice this past weekend. Tufts, minus Vincent Pace, could be watching the action on Saturday night, instead of participating in it.
What is the Flannery injury, was it a rolled ankle? Tough to think Babson can get another win without him.
Updated Tourney Odds
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-sweet-16
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 09, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
Updated Tourney Odds
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-sweet-16
Is there a webpage for the women?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 09, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
Updated Tourney Odds
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-sweet-16
Is there a webpage for the women?
Sorry, I don't follow the women very closely but off the top of my head I'd say 60% Thomas More wins it all
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 09, 2016, 10:58:08 PM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on March 09, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 09, 2016, 07:44:30 PM
Updated Tourney Odds
http://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-sweet-16
Is there a webpage for the women?
Sorry, I don't follow the women very closely but off the top of my head I'd say 60% Thomas More wins it all
Unless Sydney Moss goes down, make that 90%! I don't think D3, men or women, has ever had a player THAT dominant.
I'll miss seeing her play, but those of us who root for other teams are grateful that she is finally graduating! ;)
Quote from: Smitty Oom on March 08, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
What is the Flannery injury, was it a rolled ankle? Tough to think Babson can get another win without him.
Yes, that's what has been reported. But conjecture is that he will play. Just may not be 100%.
(Babson - Flannery) > Cortland?
Cortland played Amherst to a draw so I think Babson could beat Amherst even without Flannery, not that they would be the favorite in LeFrak and not that they wouldn't rather have Flannery.
Unrelated note:
The Ivy League will decide its AQ next year by a four-team tournament.
Boo.
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Quote from: gordonmann on March 10, 2016, 12:02:43 PM
(Babson - Flannery) > Cortland?
Cortland played Amherst to a draw so I think Babson could beat Amherst even without Flannery, not that they would be the favorite in LeFrak and not that they wouldn't rather have Flannery.
I think Cortland was a better team than most people gave them credit for. They weren't on anybody's radar all year long but they won 9 of 10 games, in a tough SUNYAC conference, against Buffalo State, Brockport State, Oneonta State, and Oswego State and weren't favored to win any of them. Somehow the Red Dragons managed to come away with the SUNYAC crown. If a ref had swallowed his whistle in the final 5 seconds of that Cortland-Amherst game, as refs do in so many instances, with that little time on the clock, then Cortland would be playing Babson tomorrow night. I still think Babson without Flannery will be in trouble against the former LJ's.
Oswego was on people's radars until they struggled out of the gates and started the conference slate 1-4... that can make them disappear pretty darn quick.
As for refs.. .I am glad they have stopped swallowing their whistles. I am tired of late fouls not being called because they are too afraid to affect the game... as one ref and a coach have said to me in different circumstances... a foul affects the game no matter when it happens, it is part of the game all 40 minutes, might as well call it when it happens.
Darned right, D-Mac. North Park lost an overtime game at Elmhurst this season because a ref who was five feet away from the play and had an unobstructed view swallowed his whistle when an NPU player got clobbered on a layup attempt just prior to the buzzer at the end of regulation. Seeing as how NPU missed out on the four-team CCIW tourney by one game, you can see how that act of whistle-swallowing altered the entire season for the Vikings, especially since the player attempting the layup was an 80% free-throw shooter this year.
I've talked to more than one ref who was watching a game from the stands who has told me that he will never blow the whistle in that situation. I've made the same argument you made, and they've still insist that they'd never do it. It's frustrating.
I have had refs tell me that... but not in recent years. A number of the guys I talk to now say they are more comfortable blowing their whistles late in games. Again, does their whistle affect the game? Yes. But the players already affected the game by making the decision or instinct to foul in the first place. The ref isn't affecting the game, the players are.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Darned right, D-Mac. North Park lost an overtime game at Elmhurst this season because a ref who was five feet away from the play and had an unobstructed view swallowed his whistle when an NPU player got clobbered on a layup attempt just prior to the buzzer at the end of regulation. Seeing as how NPU missed out on the four-team CCIW tourney by one game, you can see how that act of whistle-swallowing altered the entire season for the Vikings, especially since the player attempting the layup was an 80% free-throw shooter this year.
I've talked to more than one ref who was watching a game from the stands who has told me that he will never blow the whistle in that situation. I've made the same argument you made, and they've still insist that they'd never do it. It's frustrating.
Clobbered? I suggest you watch the play again. The only thing worse than refs missing obvious fouls is when they make bad calls based upon assumption of contact rather than actual viewed contact. Don't stop the game because there "might" have been a foul.
Dave,
I heard you pick Tufts over Scranton on hoopsville if they meet in the sectional final; did you know that Scranton beat Tufts on a neutral court last season?
Any d3hoops people going to be in Scranton?
ronk - it was last season... and it was actually about halfway through the season... pretty much has nothing to do with this situation. Not sure why you would want me to use that as comparison for a pick. Tufts also did pretty well last year and Scranton fell in the first round... should I use that as well? SMH
I think Gordon is going to be there on Friday last I heard, but I can't speak for him to be sure.
Yep, I'll be there. I'm riding shotgun with Dean Corwin for the first game and will be soaking in the atmosphere for the second
What he said.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 11, 2016, 12:27:17 AM
ronk - it was last season... and it was actually about halfway through the season... pretty much has nothing to do with this situation. Not sure why you would want me to use that as comparison for a pick. Tufts also did pretty well last year and Scranton fell in the first round... should I use that as well? SMH
I think Gordon is going to be there on Friday last I heard, but I can't speak for him to be sure.
4 of the Scranton players and 5 of the Tufts players from that game would be starting in the possible matchup; seems pertinent to forecasting an outcome.
Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2016, 12:27:17 AM
Yep, I'll be there. I'm riding shotgun with Dean Corwin for the first game and will be soaking in the atmosphere for the second
Good! I'll try to stop by.
Quote from: magicman on March 08, 2016, 09:41:02 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 07, 2016, 06:43:45 PM
Any word on Flannery's injury?
At least we know what Flannery's injury is. We also know that there is a reasonable chance he may play this weekend.
There hasn't been one syllable spoken about Vincent Pace who is the leading scorer for Tufts and only played 15 seconds this past weekend. We don't know whether his injury was an ankle, a knee, a quad or a hamstring. I think Tufts will have their hands full, even at full strength, with a very athletic Johnson & Wales team that I watched play twice this past weekend. Tufts, minus Vincent Pace, could be watching the action on Saturday night, instead of participating in it.
You may (or probably do) already know Pace's status but this confirms a torn ACL: https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2016/03/10/tom-palleschi-inspirational-leader-for-tufts-basketball/I1OHDh3hqLwSWsaFblN6TP/story.html
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 10, 2016, 06:27:35 PM
Oswego was on people's radars until they struggled out of the gates and started the conference slate 1-4... that can make them disappear pretty darn quick.
As for refs.. .I am glad they have stopped swallowing their whistles. I am tired of late fouls not being called because they are too afraid to affect the game... as one ref and a coach have said to me in different circumstances... a foul affects the game no matter when it happens, it is part of the game all 40 minutes, might as well call it when it happens.
Dave,
Not sure why you're telling me that stat about Oswego. I was talking about Cortland not being on anyone's radar, not Oswego. Here's the post from Gordon and my reply:
Quote from: magicman on March 10, 2016, 06:24:47 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 10, 2016, 12:02:43 PM
(Babson - Flannery) > Cortland?
Cortland played Amherst to a draw so I think Babson could beat Amherst even without Flannery, not that they would be the favorite in LeFrak and not that they wouldn't rather have Flannery.
I think Cortland was a better team than most people gave them credit for. They weren't on anybody's radar all year long but they won 9 of 10 games, in a tough SUNYAC conference, against Buffalo State, Brockport State, Oneonta State, and Oswego State and weren't favored to win any of them. Somehow the Red Dragons managed to come away with the SUNYAC crown. If a ref had swallowed his whistle in the final 5 seconds of that Cortland-Amherst game, as refs do in so many instances, with that little time on the clock, then Cortland would be playing Babson tomorrow night. I still think Babson without Flannery will be in trouble against the former LJ's.
As the #1 poster of all things about SUNYAC hoops, I know exactly how slowly Oswego broke out of the gate in conference play. Cortland, on the other hand did start out fairly well winning 9 of their first 10 games. They didn't play a particularly strong non-conference schedule and I didn't expect them to be on anyone's radar. But over the course of the season they did well against the 4 teams I mentioned in my post, who were all decent teams in a strong SUNYAC conference. My comment about the ref not swallowing his whistle wasn't made to criticize the ref. I happen to also agree, as a former referee, that a foul in the last second of the game is no different than a foul in the first few seconds of a game, it's still a foul and a referee's job is to call the game according to the rules. I was merely pointing out that, in many instances, (that we witness all the time) there would not have been a whistle blown, and Amherst would have been a loser.
I didn't see the Amherst-Cortland game, as I was courtside at the Johnson and Wales-Fitchburgh State game at the time. So I have no idea whether the foul called on the Cortland player was a good call because McCarthy got hammered, or was a questionable call. I was merely pointing out that the game could have had a different outcome.
I was, coincidentally, sitting with a college referee who was evaluating the team of officials that called the game we were watching. He would occasionally check his iphone to see how Cortland and Oswego were doing in their games. We knew Cortland had a late lead and the next time we checked we got the final score that Amherst had won by a point, on 2 free throws with just a few seconds left. We both commented on how that's such a tough way to lose a game but also felt that you have to call the game the right way until the buzzer goes off.
My response was to Gordon's inference that because Cortland played Amherst to a draw, he thought that Babson, even without Joey Flannery, could defeat Amherst. That sounded to me like Cortland wasn't seen as that strong of an opponent. I'm not sure Babson, even with Joey Flannery, could beat Cortland. Last year Cortland, who finished 7th in the SUNYAC and missed the conference tournament, beat Trinity who won the NESCAC regular season crown (and did so again this year). Trinity almost went to the Final Four last year losing in the quarterfinals in overtime to Babson. A game that Trinity probably should have won, as they had a 7 point lead with under 3 minutes to play. They committed 3 turnovers, 3 fouls and missed a key free throw, which allowed Babson to tie the game and send it to overtime, that resulted in a Beavers' win and a trip to the Final Four. That Babson team of last year is, I think, better than this years product. Cortland is certainly a much better team than last year's club and the fact that they could hang with the #1 team in the Northeast Region on Amherst's home floor confirms that, in my opinion. Babson has already played Amherst once this year on the Beavers' home court and lost 103-96 in double OT. Babson had no injury issues in that game and came up just short. Without Joey Flannery, and playing on a neutral court, because Amherst isn't hosting, Tufts is, I think they will have too much to overcome. Cortland also came up just short against the former LJ's but they did it on the LJ's court.
Some exciting games tonight.
I think WUH said if anyone can knock off Augustana, it's Emory.
Alma already beat St. Norbert in DePere earlier in the season.
The only game between unranked opponents is Wooster at Oswego St.
The best game may be Babson (possibly without Flannery) vs Amherst at Tufts.
Magic Man:
You might be right. Maybe I'm underselling the Red Dragons. That was sort of implied in my Babson comparison.
I don't see much in Cortland's resume this yar that suggests they are a top 25 program. They got swept by Plattsburgh (which probably drops out of the Top 25), split with Oswego (which might move into the Top 25) and don't have a signature non-conference win. True, they played Amherst to a draw at Le Frak. So did Husson, Connecticut College and Eastern Connecticut and I don't think any of them are Top 25 teams either.
And while Cortland beat Trinity last year, so did Merchant Marine (9-16) and Salem State (14-13). Again, I think that's more a reflection of Trinity's inconsistency.
Not trying to hate on the Red Dragons for whom I have a personal affinity after being their radio guy for four years. I just don't see much on this year's resume to distinguish them from a lot of teams on the fringe of the Top 25.
A slight clarification, Gordon; Cortland beat Oswego all 3 times (home, away, and neutral) they played them this year.
I think there are going to be a lot of neutral fans of the game watching Emory and Augustana. Go Eagles!
Flannery is starting and playing, but Babson is already down 6.
Babson leads 39-37 at halftime.
10 minutes to go and Amherst up 67-56.
80-67 with under 4 to go. Stick a fork in the Beavers.
Amherst wins 88-76 over Babson. No surprise there as Flannery was in and out of the game but much less than 100%.
Keene St and CNU knotted up at 52 with 8 to go.
Magic Man:
I retract everything I said a couple hours ago. Well, most of it anyway :)
Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
Magic Man:
I retract everything I said a couple hours ago. Well, most of it anyway :)
Plus K Gordon. Plus K.
Tufts up 47-43 over Jphnson and Wales at the half.
St. Thomas rolls over Whitman by a 99-73 final score.
Quote from: AO on March 10, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Darned right, D-Mac. North Park lost an overtime game at Elmhurst this season because a ref who was five feet away from the play and had an unobstructed view swallowed his whistle when an NPU player got clobbered on a layup attempt just prior to the buzzer at the end of regulation. Seeing as how NPU missed out on the four-team CCIW tourney by one game, you can see how that act of whistle-swallowing altered the entire season for the Vikings, especially since the player attempting the layup was an 80% free-throw shooter this year.
I've talked to more than one ref who was watching a game from the stands who has told me that he will never blow the whistle in that situation. I've made the same argument you made, and they've still insist that they'd never do it. It's frustrating.
Clobbered? I suggest you watch the play again. The only thing worse than refs missing obvious fouls is when they make bad calls based upon assumption of contact rather than actual viewed contact. Don't stop the game because there "might" have been a foul.
Did you see the game, AO?
Alma takes down St. Norbert 70-64 behind 25 from Trevor Gernaat and 17 from Chase Fairchild. Both have been relative non-factors so far this post season. That's what makes Alma so scary
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 08:17:25 PM
Quote from: AO on March 10, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 10, 2016, 09:45:28 PM
Darned right, D-Mac. North Park lost an overtime game at Elmhurst this season because a ref who was five feet away from the play and had an unobstructed view swallowed his whistle when an NPU player got clobbered on a layup attempt just prior to the buzzer at the end of regulation. Seeing as how NPU missed out on the four-team CCIW tourney by one game, you can see how that act of whistle-swallowing altered the entire season for the Vikings, especially since the player attempting the layup was an 80% free-throw shooter this year.
I've talked to more than one ref who was watching a game from the stands who has told me that he will never blow the whistle in that situation. I've made the same argument you made, and they've still insist that they'd never do it. It's frustrating.
Clobbered? I suggest you watch the play again. The only thing worse than refs missing obvious fouls is when they make bad calls based upon assumption of contact rather than actual viewed contact. Don't stop the game because there "might" have been a foul.
Did you see the game, AO?
Elmhurst has it archived. Play in question is at 1:43 http://livestream.com/elmhurstcollege/basketballmens/videos/109990202 (http://livestream.com/elmhurstcollege/basketballmens/videos/109990202)
Only game I really want to see is Oswego State-Wooster and having all kinds of problems pulling it up. Got all the other games but can't get this one. Got it up and running three times and then it just quits. Anyone else having a problem with that game?
Wooster breaks out of a 35-35 tie to score the last 4 points of the half and lead the Lakers 39-35 at the break.
No, AO,I mean seen it
live. (I've watched the archived webcast numerous times.) Numerous people who were there at Faganel Hall that night -- including Elmhurst fans -- have told me that it was a clear foul. In fact, at least a couple of Elmhurst posters acknowledged it on CCIW Chat.
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2016, 08:34:44 PM
Only game I really want to see is Oswego State-Wooster and having all kinds of problems pulling it up. Got all the other games but can't get this one. Got it up and running three times and then it just quits. Anyone else having a problem with that game?
Yeah, I'm having trouble getting the feed for that game as well.
Thanks Greg. Glad the problem isn't on my end. What's funny is now that it's halftime it's coming in just fine. :P
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2016, 08:34:44 PM
Only game I really want to see is Oswego State-Wooster and having all kinds of problems pulling it up. Got all the other games but can't get this one. Got it up and running three times and then it just quits. Anyone else having a problem with that game?
I gave up because it completely disrupts all other things I'm trying to do because of how slow and/or glitchy it is. No problem with the other feeds though. Got livestats on and will try to put the video back on at the end...
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2016, 08:36:12 PM
Wooster breaks out of a 35-35 tie to score the last 4 points of the half and lead the Lakers 39-35 at the break.
Dan "the Man" Fanelly!
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 08:36:53 PM
No, AO,I mean seen it live. (I've watched the archived webcast numerous times.) Numerous people who were there at Faganel Hall that night -- including Elmhurst fans -- have told me that it was a clear foul. In fact, at least a couple of Elmhurst posters acknowledged it on CCIW chat.
I don't see much contact at all. Calling it clobbered is preposterous. They tumbled over each other after the play, is that what you're talking about?
"Clobbered" was not my original term, AO. It was used to describe the play by someone who was not only there -- which, again, you weren't -- but was watching from that end of the gym.
Is there a "people arguing about a call from weeks ago that aren't in the 2016 NCAA tournament any longer" board? ;D
Wish there was, pg04. I don't know why AO is making an issue of this.
On the bright side, I'm finally getting the Oswego State vs. Wooster game to work
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 08:51:40 PM
Wish there was, pg04. I don't know why AO is making an issue of this.
On the bright side, I'm finally getting the Oswego State vs. Wooster game to work
LOL! And when I just tried everything crashed. I think my luck is shot.
Finally got in and the other major problem is that the live stats is ahead of the video and you can't remove them from the screen. Come on Oswego up your game (I already complained about this on another board).
I'm getting it fine now as well Greg. Hope it stays that way.
Benedictine-Ohio Wesleyan game is a great game as back and forth they go... currently tied at 40
Halftime score is 42-42. This one looks like it will go right down to the wire the way they are going at each other.
I love how both the webcast and live stats graphics identify the visitors as "The Wooster".
Where is Will Trawick? Is he playing?
As Alice in Chains would say,
Yeaaaah here comes the Wooster, Yeeeeah. ;D
I wonder how many I lost with this reference.
Quote from: WUH on March 11, 2016, 09:04:03 PM
Where is Will Trawick? Is he playing?
He hasn't played yet. I'm not sure why; I've been switching my audio back and forth between Chris Ford and Dan Sand in Rock Island and Tim Calderwood and Dave McHugh in Lisle, so I haven't listened to Emory @ Augustana in its entirely, but when I've been listening to Chris and Dan they haven't mentioned Trawick's absence.
I thought maybe I chose the wrong team as I had Trawick on my one and done team for tonight. I kept checking the Emory box score and no sign of him. Geez I thought he played for Emory, I must be losing it. :P
Oswego webcast flat out sucks. Worse one in the entire tournament. I wish Chris Newport was hosting. ::)
Augie kickin' Emory early....34-19 6:50
Augustana SID reporting that Trawick will not play...concussion.
They've got to stop cutting to crowd shots in the Lakers vs. Scots game. Gentlemen, you've got a tight game in the final couple of minutes. Please let us watch it, rather than giving us shots of a bunch of excited Oswegans.
BTW, that Sortino kid for Oswego State is making some big-time plays.
I mean seriously it's common sense. The production here has none apparently.
Oswego loses to Wooster as Fannely is fouled and makes 2 free throws with 4 seconds left. On the other end there is no call for Oswego and the Lakers go down 66-65.
Benedictine turns a close game into a solid win as they defeat Ohio Wesleyan 97-84.
OWU shot 54% from the field and still lost by 13. Why? Give up 25 offensive rebounds, and you're almost sure to lose just about any ballgame. BU ran a back-tap clinic tonight at the Rice Center.
Quote from: magicman on March 11, 2016, 10:03:03 PM
Benedictine turns a close game into a solid win as they defeat Ohio Wesleyan 97-84.
Benedictine outrebounded the BBs 54-26, 25-2 on the offensive end :o. Wesleyan outshot their hosts 54%-46% and were still outscored from the floor by 3.
Edit: I guess Sager's quick posting clobbered me here. Unless the archive shows otherwise.
Augustana's winning in a romp. I've seen Will Trawick play several times (both live and online), and I respect his game, but don't think that he would've made a difference in the outcome if he'd played tonight for Emory.
Augie wins a game that was never in doubt 88-65 over Emory
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:23:43 PM
Augustana's winning in a romp. I've seen Will Trawick play several times (both live and online), and I respect his game, but don't think that he would've made a difference in the outcome if he'd played tonight for Emory.
Absolutely agree. Augie played very well tonight. 56% FG shooting, 62% from the 3 pt line (13-21) and out rebounded Emory 16.
There may be no beating Augustana. Now I jinxed them.
St. Thomas has looked really solid. I would not count out the Tommies prematurely.
I expect a really good game in Rock Island tomorrow night.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:43:44 PM
St. Thomas has looked really solid. I would not count out the Tommies prematurely.
I expect a really good game in Rock Island tomorrow night.
I lost where everyone was in the bracket. You're right, that game was a rout too.
Alma @ Benedictine tomorrow, and I guess I'll be a neutral observer. It is truly Cinderella vs. Cinderella. Traditionally Alma is a fairly bad team in a so-so (aside from Hope and Calvin, and sometimes Albion) MIAA. Traditionally Benedictine is a so-so team in a very bad (4-26 entering this year in the tourney) NACC conference. Both are having their best years ever (especially Benedictine); between them they went 8-1 against the CCIW. I grew up in Illinois, and IWU plays Benedictine pretty much every year in non-con. On the other hand, I've now lived more than 2/3rds of my life in Michigan (and have been to Alma a few times; never been to Lisle).
I generally root for David over Goliath (except, of course, if IWU is 'Goliath' ;)), but am unsure what to do when David faces David and I have no other personal ties? Thus my neutrality.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:23:43 PM
Augustana's winning in a romp. I've seen Will Trawick play several times (both live and online), and I respect his game, but don't think that he would've made a difference in the outcome if he'd played tonight for Emory.
Easy to say when the opponents shoot so well, but Trawick is a senior leader who can take over a game. Certainly went to work in the one game you would have watched live. Big, big loss for Emory.
Quote from: pg04 on March 11, 2016, 09:06:32 PM
As Alice in Chains would say,
Yeaaaah here comes the Wooster, Yeeeeah. ;D
I wonder how many I lost with this reference.
Probably as many as when I say I think of The Wooster Fighting Scots as more of an AC/DC "It's a long way to the top" kind of school
...and I don't mean that as a reference to the fact they've never won the title. :) ;)
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 PMTraditionally Benedictine is a so-so team in a very bad (4-26 entering this year in the tourney) NACC conference.
The NACC was 1-9 in D3 tourney play entering this season. Nine of the eleven members of the NACC that have men's basketball have made D3 tourney appearances, and they had gone a combined 4-27 in D3 tourney play prior to 2016, with most of their appearances accrued when they were members of the NACC's two predecessor leagues, the NIIC and the LMC.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 PMBoth are having their best years ever (especially Benedictine);
While BU has certainly never gone 29-0 before, or anything like it, it needs to be pointed out that this is not the first time that the Bennies have gotten this far in the dance. They reached the Elite Eight in the 1991 tourney before being crushed by eventual national champion UW-Platteville.
Quote from: WUH on March 11, 2016, 10:49:52 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:23:43 PM
Augustana's winning in a romp. I've seen Will Trawick play several times (both live and online), and I respect his game, but don't think that he would've made a difference in the outcome if he'd played tonight for Emory.
Easy to say when the opponents shoot so well, but Trawick is a senior leader who can take over a game. Certainly went to work in the one game you would have watched live. Big, big loss for Emory.
I agree that Trawick's DNP due to concussion was a big loss for Emory, but, nevertheless, I feel pretty strongly that even if the Eagles had been at full strength, Augie's just plain better than Emory.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 PMTraditionally Benedictine is a so-so team in a very bad (4-26 entering this year in the tourney) NACC conference.
The NACC was 1-9 in D3 tourney play entering this season. Nine of the eleven members of the NACC that have men's basketball have made D3 tourney appearances, and they had gone a combined 4-27 in D3 tourney play prior to 2016, with most of their appearances accrued when they were members of the NACC's two predecessor leagues, the NIIC and the LMC.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 11, 2016, 10:45:35 PMBoth are having their best years ever (especially Benedictine);
While BU has certainly never gone 29-0 before, or anything like it, it needs to be pointed out that this is not the first time that the Bennies have gotten this far in the dance. They reached the Elite Eight in the 1991 tourney before being crushed by eventual national champion UW-Platteville.
This year's Benedictine team broke a 50 year old record for wins to start a season. My dad played on that team, which started the year out 16-0. They made the NCAA tournament that year too and lost in the first game of the regional. There was some guy named Phil Jackson playing for Univ of North Dakota that year too.
If I'm ranking the remaining team on both actual talent and ability to win the whole thing, I think I'd go:
1. Benedictine
2. Augustana
3. St Thomas (because they have to play Augie and vice versa)
4. Alma
5. CNU
6. Tufts
7. Amherst
8. Wooster
I don't see any of the teams in the lower half of the bracket beating any of the teams on the top half of their side. Of course, anything can happen in Salem, for sure, but it seems like the best teams remaining are at the top.
Updated chances:
https://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-elite-8
Quote from: augie_superfan on March 12, 2016, 04:17:17 PM
Updated chances:
https://sites.google.com/site/d3basketballindex/2016-tourney-odds-before-elite-8
Huh, this agrees with my picks for #1-#5. Pretty cool.
Awww the video feed doesn't say "The Wooster" tonight. I wonder if they saw all the complaining we did last night. ;D
Random: Doesn't "Tufts" just sound like a NESCAC school? :P
Speaking of The Wooster they aren't doing very well, down 32-14 with 3:40 left in 1st.
Halftime Scores:
Amherst 40 Tufts 35
The Wooster 19 CNU 36
Quote from: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 07:13:59 PM
Random: Doesn't "Tufts" just sound like a NESCAC school? :P
Sounds to me like a facial tissue knock-off - the lower cost Puffs. ;D
Or maybe what stuffed animals are stuffed with. ::)
Benedictine all over Alma 44-25 at the half.
Amherst and Tufts coming down to crunch time. The former LJ's are up 81-73 with a minute left to play
Amherst defeats Tufts 86-73 to be the first to advance to the Final Four.
That means that Amherst will tie Wittenberg and Williams for the most-ever D3 Final Four appearances with seven.
The Christopher Newport upends A Wooster 81-61, first ever Final Four for the Cap'ns. Congratulations!
Christopher Newport 81
Wooster 61
Congrats to the Captains, as CNU will go to the Final Four for the first time ever. It's sigh-of-relief time for Captains fans as much as it is celebration time, because prior to this season CNU had made more D3 tourney appearances without a Final Four trip -- nineteen -- than any other school in the country. Twentieth time's the charm, I guess. ;)
(The Captains play "tag, you're it!" with Maryville in that category. Murvul's been in eighteen tourneys without a Final Four appearance.)
5 seconds, dude. You're slipping.
Well, I had to slip in all of the extra info about CNU's tourney history.
Alacrity versus comprehensiveness ... it's a balancing act. ;)
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2016, 08:57:17 PM
Christopher Newport 81
Wooster 61
Congrats to the Captains, as CNU will go to the Final Four for the first time ever. It's sigh-of-relief time for Captains fans as much as it is celebration time, because prior to this season CNU had made more D3 tourney appearances without a Final Four trip -- nineteen -- than any other school in the country. Twentieth time's the charm, I guess. ;)
(The Captains play "tag, you're it!" with Maryville in that category. Murvul's been in eighteen tourneys without a Final Four appearance.)
The Susan Lucci of D3 hoops! (Another kind of obscure reference).
Quote from: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 09:03:40 PM
The Susan Lucci of D3 hoops! (Another kind of obscure reference).
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St. Thomas giving Augustana all they can handle as the Tommies lead 58-56 with 11:46 left in the game.
St. Thomas opens up a 73-64 lead on Augustana with 5:22 left to play.
Benedictine cruises to their 30th straight win to reach the Final Four undefeated as they down Alma by a 93-73 final score. It's the Eagles first Final Four appearance.
Benedictine 93
Alma 73
Getting slower and no comprehensiveness. :D
Augie in serious trouble down 8 points 75-67 with under 2 minutes left to play.
Sorry, Prestidigitator. Too wrapped up in the UST @ Augie game. :D
Augustana losing, ruining fantasy leagues and pickems everywhere :P
With Benedictine beating an MIAA school so soundly, the HSU game does not look so bad.
Go ASC.
Down goes Augustana as they fall to St. Thomas by a final score of 86-76.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:43:44 PM
St. Thomas has looked really solid. I would not count out the Tommies prematurely.
I expect a really good game in Rock Island tomorrow night.
The wise one, Gregory Sager! I would +K you but I already did.
Should be a heck of a Final Four. Amherst against Benedictine. Christopher Newport against St. Thomas.
I like Benedictine and St. Thomas to play for the championship with Benedictine taking home the Big Doorstop, as my friend Greg Sager would call it. :D
St. Thomas was great tonight, but the Tommies have been great all throughout this tournament thus far.
The NESCAC guys will be peeved at me for saying this, but I think it's going to come down to St. Thomas versus Benedictine (although I've been impressed by what I've seen from Christopher Newport).
I'm with you on that, my friend. I, too, think that the Big Doorstop's going to be brought back by the Bennies to Chicago's western suburbs when it's all said and done.
Should be a great Final Four, though. BU's gonna be the best team there, I think, but not head-and-shoulders above everybody else in Salem.
Quote from: pg04 on March 12, 2016, 09:51:02 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 11, 2016, 10:43:44 PM
St. Thomas has looked really solid. I would not count out the Tommies prematurely.
I expect a really good game in Rock Island tomorrow night.
The wise one, Gregory Sager! I would +K you but I already did.
If you looked at all my fantasy draft leagues you would see that I never drafted 1 single player from Augustana but have a player from St. Thomas when I could get the one I wanted. I saw this matchup and result coming several week ago. :D I also have 2 players from Benedictine on several of my teams. I gave Greg a plus K for you and tomorrow I'll give him one for me. ;D 1949 was a very good year. I was 2 years old. 8-)
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2016, 09:53:11 PM
St. Thomas was great tonight, but the Tommies have been great all throughout this tournament thus far.
The NESCAC guys will be peeved at me for saying this, but I think it's going to come down to St. Thomas versus Benedictine (although I've been impressed by what I've seen from Christopher Newport).
I didn't think CNU had played very well in this tournament until tonight. They finally looked like they did during the peak parts of the regular season. That will really be a great game on Friday. Glad I get to be there to see it.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 12, 2016, 10:13:02 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 12, 2016, 09:53:11 PM
St. Thomas was great tonight, but the Tommies have been great all throughout this tournament thus far.
The NESCAC guys will be peeved at me for saying this, but I think it's going to come down to St. Thomas versus Benedictine (although I've been impressed by what I've seen from Christopher Newport).
I didn't think CNU had played very well in this tournament until tonight. They finally looked like they did during the peak parts of the regular season. That will really be a great game on Friday. Glad I get to be there to see it.
That might be a testament to them as a team. They find a way to win even when things aren't going right.
Nice touch from the NCAA... they have a sectional trophy now for the winning team... meaning there is now a trophy for the case of final four teams even if they don't win the semifinals.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 12:54:03 AM
Nice touch from the NCAA... they have a sectional trophy now for the winning team... meaning there is now a trophy for the case of final four teams even if they don't win the semifinals.
That's really cool. I like that idea.
Should be some great games on Friday. The "New boys", Benedictine, vs the "Old pros" who've been there before, Amherst. And also we'll have a very solid team in St. Thomas taking on the 3-headed monster (Carter, McFarland and Daly) in Christopher Newport.
I think I'm taking Benedictine vs St. Thomas in the Final.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 12:54:03 AM
Nice touch from the NCAA... they have a sectional trophy now for the winning team... meaning there is now a trophy for the case of final four teams even if they don't win the semifinals.
I believe that there were already trophies for semifinalists, and the issue was that three teams in Salem were receiving trophies following a season-ending loss. For the price of a 5th trophy, the NCAA could make sure that all trophies were awarded to teams that were excited to receive them.
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 13, 2016, 08:24:06 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 12:54:03 AM
Nice touch from the NCAA... they have a sectional trophy now for the winning team... meaning there is now a trophy for the case of final four teams even if they don't win the semifinals.
I believe that there were already trophies for semifinalists, and the issue was that three teams in Salem were receiving trophies following a season-ending loss. For the price of a 5th trophy, the NCAA could make sure that all trophies were awarded to teams that were excited to receive them.
Sounds like a reasoned idea for the change.
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 13, 2016, 08:24:06 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 12:54:03 AM
Nice touch from the NCAA... they have a sectional trophy now for the winning team... meaning there is now a trophy for the case of final four teams even if they don't win the semifinals.
I believe that there were already trophies for semifinalists, and the issue was that three teams in Salem were receiving trophies following a season-ending loss. For the price of a 5th trophy, the NCAA could make sure that all trophies were awarded to teams that were excited to receive them.
I can't remember if they all got trophies. They did away with trophy presentations except after the championship (because they used to get them after the consolation game)... so I am not sure if they kept up the practice of giving them out to the two losing teams in the semis. I personally like this option better because it gives them something to "celebrate." It is actually six total trophies now as the runner up still gets a trophy in Salem.
Based on something I read a while back, about committee discussion leading up to this change, it was noted as going from 4 trophies to 5. This leads me to believe that they were awarding trophies to semifinalists (perhaps privately, rather than in a post-game ceremony) and that there is were no longer be a runner-up trophy, which is the only part that I found disappointing. However, maybe that was subsequently changed to still include a runner-up trophy.
Well unless they change it this year, they always hand out a runner-up trophy to the best of my memory now at 15 straight (soon to to be 16) championship games (men's basketball, that is; plenty more counting other sports). The runner-up trophy is still something to put in the trophy case. I would be kind of surprised if they got rid of that... but who knows. I'll check out it.
It's a change for this year, and I confirmed the details at the link below, but yes, only a championship trophy will be presented in Salem. From what I understand, it was hard enough to get the NCAA to approve the $500 for a 5th trophy (four sectional champs plus national champ, as compared to champ, runner-up, & two semifinalists previously), much less to get a 6th (to keep the national runner-up trophy.) A 5th-trophy proposal was denied the previous year for budget-related reasons.
https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DIII%20MBB%20Comm%20Mtg%20Agenda-Supplements%202015.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DIII%20MBB%20Comm%20Mtg%20Agenda-Supplements%202015.pdf)
Championship Presentations, Trophies and Individual Awards. The committee determined that participant medallions should be mailed to all participating teams the first week of the tournament instead of sending them to the host institution for distribution. The committee approved changing the semifinalist trophies to sectional trophies and presenting them at an awards presentation at each of the four sectional sites. In Salem, the awards presentation would consist of the championship trophy only.
I'm glad D3 has the selection process it does after watching the D1 selection show. Seems much more transparent.
Thanks. Great update. People need to remember that wasn't a simple $500 decision. That was more like a $16,000 decision based on at least 32 trophies needed for runner-ups.
Quote from: pg04 on March 13, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
I'm glad D3 has the selection process it does after watching the D1 selection show. Seems much more transparent.
Considering how much information isn't revealed... that is a rather interesting point of view. The women certainly aren't that transparent.
Yeah I was comparing men vs. men selections. I know it isn't perfect and I know the seeds don't officially get revealed and so on but I feel like we can do something like KS does and get a pretty good feel on the numbers that the committee is using. It's hard to get a handle on what is important to the D1 committee.
Just my outsider's perspective though, I don't work nearly as closely as you do with it.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 07:38:45 PM
Thanks. Great update. People need to remember that wasn't a simple $500 decision. That was more like a $16,000 decision based on at least 32 trophies needed for runner-ups.
Where is the 32 coming from? This decision involved D3 men's basketball only.
Quote from: pg04 on March 13, 2016, 07:43:23 PM
Yeah I was comparing men vs. men selections. I know it isn't perfect and I know the seeds don't officially get revealed and so on but I feel like we can do something like KS does and get a pretty good feel on the numbers that the committee is using. It's hard to get a handle on what is important to the D1 committee.
Just my outsider's perspective though, I don't work nearly as closely as you do with it.
Yeah, I hear ya there. At least we get an idea of what is going on.
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 13, 2016, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 07:38:45 PM
Thanks. Great update. People need to remember that wasn't a simple $500 decision. That was more like a $16,000 decision based on at least 32 trophies needed for runner-ups.
Where is the 32 coming from? This decision involved D3 men's basketball only.
I am making a bit of an assumption here, but usually decisions like these are not made for just one sport. They are made across the division for all sports because they want to make sure they are being fair to all championships. I will check to see if that is the case. Which handbook did you read it out of?
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: fantastic50 on March 13, 2016, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 13, 2016, 07:38:45 PM
Thanks. Great update. People need to remember that wasn't a simple $500 decision. That was more like a $16,000 decision based on at least 32 trophies needed for runner-ups.
Where is the 32 coming from? This decision involved D3 men's basketball only.
I am making a bit of an assumption here, but usually decisions like these are not made for just one sport. They are made across the division for all sports because they want to make sure they are being fair to all championships. I will check to see if that is the case. Which handbook did you read it out of?
Google searches of ncaa.org turned up the info in committee minutes (D3 MBKB committee, D3 championships committee, etc.) From what I can tell, in order to get approval, the committee was required not only to make the change cost-neutral (by reducing the number of on-court logos) but also to ensure that the overall tournament awards costs would not exceed the budget, as had been an issue in recent past years. Some aspects are mentioned in the D3 MBKB host operations manual. However, because all of these are just snapshots of the process, I suspect that you may understand better the process & rationale by week's end.
https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MC_CC_October_16_Teleconference.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/MC_CC_October_16_Teleconference.pdf)
https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DIII%20MBB%20Comm%20Mtg%20Agenda-Supplements%202015.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/DIII%20MBB%20Comm%20Mtg%20Agenda-Supplements%202015.pdf)
https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2015-16_DIIIMBB_HostOps_20160120.pdf (https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2015-16_DIIIMBB_HostOps_20160120.pdf)
Former Williams stud and current Michigan Wolverine, Duncan Robinson, was mentioned in ESPN's Breaking Down Every Tournament Team article. Of course, being ESPN, they claim he's a former NAIA player. Go figure.
Michigan is #41
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14964029/first-look-all-68-march-madness-teams-2016-ncaa-tournament
So who's the favorite now? Undefeated Benedictine? St. Thomas ,who just knocked off Augie? 1-loss CNU? An experienced Amherst team?
1. Benedictine
2. St. Thomas
3. Amherst
4.CNU
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
So who's the favorite now? Undefeated Benedictine? St. Thomas ,who just knocked off Augie? 1-loss CNU? An experienced Amherst team?
1. Benedictine
2. St. Thomas
3. Amherst
4.CNU
I'd switch 3 and 4 - I feel like the Final Four ended up being a properly seeded four-team tournament.
Quote from: pg04 on March 13, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
I'm glad D3 has the selection process it does after watching the D1 selection show. Seems much more transparent.
Maybe D3 is more predictable, but the D1 committee chairman was willing to talk about every team they did and did not pick and they released the full 1-68 seeding.
Quote from: AO on March 14, 2016, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: pg04 on March 13, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
I'm glad D3 has the selection process it does after watching the D1 selection show. Seems much more transparent.
Maybe D3 is more predictable, but the D1 committee chairman was willing to talk about every team they did and did not pick and they released the full 1-68 seeding.
We got pretty much every answer we asked for this year. I think having such specific criteria makes d3 easier to predict. Conversely, if d3 had the same kind of national scope, with teams playing across the country pretty regularly, there'd be more a move towards the way d1 does things. We sort of have to do what we do because the teams are very regionally and conference based.
And because the selection criteria is approved by the entire division and pretty much used for all sports... not just basketball.
It's true that it's possible to use the "eye test" in D1, although it seems they don't watch anyone but mediocre teams from power conferences...
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 09:35:58 AM
Former Williams stud and current Michigan Wolverine, Duncan Robinson, was mentioned in ESPN's Breaking Down Every Tournament Team article. Of course, being ESPN, they claim he's a former NAIA player. Go figure.
Michigan is #41
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/14964029/first-look-all-68-march-madness-teams-2016-ncaa-tournament
Nothing at ESPN surprises me anymore.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
So who's the favorite now? Undefeated Benedictine? St. Thomas ,who just knocked off Augie? 1-loss CNU? An experienced Amherst team?
1. Benedictine
2. St. Thomas
3. Amherst
4.CNU
Gotta go with the boys in blue...CNU. IT took me an hour to get through to the CNU ticket office to purchase a ticket. Now I have to pick it up at Will Call in Salem.
Quote from: CNU85 on March 14, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
So who's the favorite now? Undefeated Benedictine? St. Thomas ,who just knocked off Augie? 1-loss CNU? An experienced Amherst team?
1. Benedictine
2. St. Thomas
3. Amherst
4.CNU
Gotta go with the boys in blue...CNU. IT took me an hour to get through to the CNU ticket office to purchase a ticket. Now I have to pick it up at Will Call in Salem.
What a surprising pick from someone who has CNU in their name! ;D ;)
Quote from: CNU85 on March 14, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
So who's the favorite now? Undefeated Benedictine? St. Thomas ,who just knocked off Augie? 1-loss CNU? An experienced Amherst team?
1. Benedictine
2. St. Thomas
3. Amherst
4.CNU
Gotta go with the boys in blue...CNU. IT took me an hour to get through to the CNU ticket office to purchase a ticket. Now I have to pick it up at Will Call in Salem.
You could have also called the Salem Civic Center, or get one at the door. Probably plenty of seats and basically general admission in your team's section.
Nothing gets easier these days. Years ago....about a decade ago, one could call down to the Salem Civic Center and get a ticket and have them hold them. Today, there are several off line ticket sellers that will charge you double the price for the tickets, while holding the best seats. Going thru the official site, one is pushed off to Ticketmaster on-line that charges several handling fees...including a will call/ hold item. Plus to paid online...you need to give them your e-mail, etc. info. Worst case, is they are using two year old team seating charts!!. After a hour...really, I got my tickets and plan to make adjustments after finding out where schools are being placed and if the " riser" seats tickets have become available....released. In short, best bet and cheaper option maybe going to the. Box office. Thought about it several times while waiting on line. Will be my seventh trip down.
IDK, last year I went over with my family. We didn't know if we were going to go until Wednesday. I don't think I actually ordered tickets until Thursday. I simply called the Salem Civc Center and got 3 tickets, 2 adults, 1 student, general admission. $25.00 and $12.50 for my kid, good for both semis, all-star game and Final. Over the phone, it was only $2.00 per ticket service fee.
Out of curiosity, I have no plans on going this year, I called today and it's the same. If you want reserved tickets for your team's section, it doesn't cost anymore...it's just first come, first served. $25 for adults, $12.50 for students.
1 540-375-3004
This is the number I called, literally a half hour ago. Someone answered right away and transferred me to ticketing. I could've gotten tickets in about 5 minutes.
My guess on tickets:
CNU is local enough (and probably excited enough about a break-through season) that they will probably sell out.
Amherst will probably sell out - after all, their alums are all in the 1%! ;D
Not confident that either St. Thomas or Benedictine will sell out their allotments. UST (by SJU-generated reputation, at least) has the wealth, but it is quite a haul from St. Paul. I know nothing about the wealth of Benedictine students or alums, but it is also quite a trek from Lisle, IL; though the excitement of being first-timers and undefeated MAY produce a full house.
I'd estimate that tickets will be available for all games on a walk-up basis. (On the other hand, if you're coming from any great distance, you probably shouldn't count on my estimate!)
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and
so far only) national title the next day.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and so far only) national title the next day.
The line forms to the right to join in. :) I went to the semifinals of Scranton's 1976 championship, but not the final.
Can't remember why but probably family-related.
Quote from: ronk on March 14, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and so far only) national title the next day.
The line forms to the right to join in. :) I went to the semifinals of Scranton's 1976 championship, but not the final.
Can't remember why but probably family-related.
OMG, YOUR team was in the final and you didn't go?! :o I missed the final in 2014, but my team had lost in the semis, and it was such a gorgeous day that I went bike-riding with my long-suffering wife (NOT a BB fan, but a good sport) instead. From all reports, I missed one of the best finals ever!
FYI - Amherst fans have to split their allegiances with the women's team... that will affect their turn out.
Secondly, Benedictine fans can fly direct from Chicago to Roanoke... that actually may encourage many of them to come.
CNU will travel okay probably being it is across the state and their first one.
Wildcard is the St. Thomas fans. They certainly know the route thanks to two other appearances and their football team's success... but who knows if they travel in high numbers.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 14, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
FYI - Amherst fans have to split their allegiances with the women's team... that will affect their turn out.
Secondly, Benedictine fans can fly direct from Chicago to Roanoke... that actually may encourage many of them to come.
CNU will travel okay probably being it is across the state and their first one.
Wildcard is the St. Thomas fans. They certainly know the route thanks to two other appearances and their football team's success... but who knows if they travel in high numbers.
Technically all the Amherst fans can come down for Friday then, if the men lose, the whole group can drive the 5.5 hours up to Capital Saturday morning for the women's game.
Quote from: ronk on March 14, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and so far only) national title the next day.
The line forms to the right to join in. :) I went to the semifinals of Scranton's 1976 championship, but not the final.
Can't remember why but probably family-related.
At first I thought you meant a line was forming for a chance to kick Mr. Ypsi. But, sadly, no. Right? No?
Quote from: David Collinge on March 14, 2016, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 14, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and so far only) national title the next day.
The line forms to the right to join in. :) I went to the semifinals of Scranton's 1976 championship, but not the final.
Can't remember why but probably family-related.
At first I thought you meant a line was forming for a chance to kick Mr. Ypsi. But, sadly, no. Right? No?
That's what I meant; just in case his knees and/or quads weren't flexible for him to do it himself adequately-it could be a very long line. :)
Quote from: ronk on March 14, 2016, 10:51:43 PM
Quote from: David Collinge on March 14, 2016, 10:47:01 PM
Quote from: ronk on March 14, 2016, 06:55:56 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 14, 2016, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 14, 2016, 06:33:37 PM
Even if each school sells their "allotment," I can only assume there's tickets for the general public. For the Final Four, they probably open up enough seats to hold 5,000. The Internet says it holds 6,800, but they always tarp off some seats. But, has a single game ever had a capacity of even 3,500?
Yeah, I was there in 2014 and there were plenty of empty seats for both games. Very good (and loud) crowd, but no where near the fire marshall's capacity!
In 2012 IWU was in both FF's, so I stayed home to be able to better follow both teams. The men lost in the semis; I still am kicking myself for not heading over to Holland (only about three hours away) afterwards to watch the Titan women win their first (and so far only) national title the next day.
The line forms to the right to join in. :) I went to the semifinals of Scranton's 1976 championship, but not the final.
Can't remember why but probably family-related.
At first I thought you meant a line was forming for a chance to kick Mr. Ypsi. But, sadly, no. Right? No?
That's what I meant; just in case his knees and/or quads weren't flexible for him to do it himself adequately-it could be a very long line. :)
Watch out guys, or I'm turning you in for 'elder abuse'. ::)
As I said, "I'm still kicking myself' - on the nights I can't do it, my Coon Hound is happy to comply. ;D We have a king sized bed, but she thinks she is an empress.
A fitting breed of dog for an Illinois Wesleyan basketball fan, Chuck, even though yours is of the wrong gender.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 15, 2016, 12:07:58 AM
A fitting breed of dog for an Illinois Wesleyan basketball fan, Chuck, even though yours is of the wrong gender.
Somehow I never even made the connection. If she wasn't already at least three when we adopted her and definitely was 'Shelby', I shoulda called her Korey!
Not sure about the spelling, but verbally both Shelby and Korey are gender-neutral. ;)
"Verbally both Shelby and Korey are gender-neutral"? Who cares? She's a dog, Chuck. If you're the one who feeds her, she'll come to you when you call her even if you name her "Penis". ;)
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 14, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
FYI - Amherst fans have to split their allegiances with the women's team... that will affect their turn out.
Secondly, Benedictine fans can fly direct from Chicago to Roanoke... that actually may encourage many of them to come.
CNU will travel okay probably being it is across the state and their first one.
Wildcard is the St. Thomas fans. They certainly know the route thanks to two other appearances and their football team's success... but who knows if they travel in high numbers.
I'm assuming a lot of students can't afford to fly. I'm not sure what the student participation is either. When is Spring break for all the schools?
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2016, 09:17:17 AM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 14, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
FYI - Amherst fans have to split their allegiances with the women's team... that will affect their turn out.
Secondly, Benedictine fans can fly direct from Chicago to Roanoke... that actually may encourage many of them to come.
CNU will travel okay probably being it is across the state and their first one.
Wildcard is the St. Thomas fans. They certainly know the route thanks to two other appearances and their football team's success... but who knows if they travel in high numbers.
I'm assuming a lot of students can't afford to fly. I'm not sure what the student participation is either. When is Spring break for all the schools?
It's only 10.5 hours driving from Benedictine. That's nothing for a college road trip. I drove 6 hours each way on the same day for a basketball game one time (Syracuse-UConn) - and it was just regular season for a school I didn't attend.
Sixteen hours from St. Thomas might be difficult.
I just looked at the maps for all four schools - Amherst is only 50 miles closer to Salem than Benedictine is.
http://www.qconline.com/sports/college_sports/augie-hoops-seniors-deserved-more-fitting-finish/article_3f88da73-dbdd-5f28-9004-affcfb11f186.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share
A nice article about the Augustana seniors who represented their school very well, both on and off the court for the last four years. Sadly for them, they came up just short of a return trip to Salem.
It's about 15 hrs from Stevens Point, but we've always traveled well...especially for Final Fours. ;D
Traditionally, the fan buses would leave Thursday evening and get to Salem around 3 pm. Check into the hotel and head to the 5 pm game.
Final Four teams
Benedictine - they lose two starters, Johnson and Dodson, and their top reserve in Reamer
Amherst - returns everyone except Connor Green
CNU - loses starter Weatherall, but returns Carter, McFarland, Regimbal and Daly
St. Thomas - loses Tillman, Montero, Saarela and top reserve Remke
Elite 8
Babson - returns everyone, hopefully Flannery doesn't get hurt
Wooster - loses starter Kipfer, but Fanelly and Williams return. Lalonde started and played 24 game. I assume he got hurt, he's a senior too
Alma - loses Nikodemski and DJ Beckman
Augustana - they don't lose much, just Hill, Ryan, Pils, Motzel, Johnson and Straughter
Would the fan bus stop overnight or would it drive straight through??
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 15, 2016, 12:45:14 AM
"Verbally both Shelby and Korey are gender-neutral"? Who cares? She's a dog, Chuck. If you're the one who feeds her, she'll come to you when you call her even if you name her "Penis". ;)
Quite true. She loves it when I yell 'Yo! Fuzzbutt!" because she knows a walk or a trip to the dog park is in the offing. ;D
Drives straight through. Saves riders the hotel cost. I believe they also drive back after the game and get home Sunday evening.
I never took the bus to Salem. The 1st year I picked up diehardfan in Wheaton and drove back with Swampgoon (she went to visit relatives), the 2nd time with Swampgoon and some other friends, the 3rd time with my pregnant wife and the 4th time with my wife and 5 year old.
I took the bus back in 1989 (?) to Rochester to watch Stevens Point play RIT in the hockey finals (2-game series back then). Some drunk students were misbehaving and the bus driver dumped them off at one of those rest stops that go over the highway with restaurants in Chicago. No idea how they got home. As a 16-year old, that was a rough ride with a bunch of drunk college students puking and no way to open the windows.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2016, 12:57:03 PM
Wooster - loses starter Kipfer, but Fanelly and Williams return. Lalonde started and played 24 game. I assume he got hurt, he's a senior too
Alex LaLonde had blood clots found in his arm, which cost him the remainder of his senior season. He's had three surgeries since. He and Kipfer are the only contributors graduating, while Fanelly and Milt Davis will be the only seniors on the squad next year. It's a young squad.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 15, 2016, 12:57:03 PM
CNU - loses starter Weatherall, but returns Carter, McFarland, Regimbal and Daly
Who knows if the student announcers from Oswego State were getting it right, but they pronounced Regimbal's name with a hard 'g' sound. Both nights, I could've sworn that they kept calling him "Wreckin' Ball." If he does, in fact, pronounce his name with a hard 'g', then Wreckin' Ball would be the perfect nickname for him.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 15, 2016, 07:37:17 PM
Who knows if the student announcers from Oswego State were getting it right, but they pronounced Regimbal's name with a hard 'g' sound. Both nights, I could've sworn that they kept calling him "Wreckin' Ball." If he does, in fact, pronounce his name with a hard 'g', then Wreckin' Ball would be the perfect nickname for him.
Or opposing fans can call him Hannah or Miley.
Here are the final odds for the Final 4 and Championship game:
Team Final 2 Win Championship
Benedictine 79.6% 51.1%
Amherst 20.4% 6.1%
CNU 35.6% 12.4%
St. Thomas 64.4% 30.4%
AMCC 0-1: Pitt-Greensburg 0-1
ASC 1-1: Hardin-Simmons 1-1
CC 0-1: F & M 0-1
CCC 1-1: Endicott 1-1
CCIW 4-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
CSAC 1-1: Gwynedd-Mercy 1-1
CUNYAC 1-1: Brooklyn 1-1
E8 0-1: Hartwick 0-1
GNAC 2-1: J & W 2-1
HCAC 0-1: Mount St. Joseph 0-1
IIAC 0-1: Central 0-1
LAND 1-3: Susquehanna 1-1, Catholic 0-1, Scranton 0-1
LEC 2-1: Keene St. 2-1
LL 1-1: Skidmore 1-1
MACC 0-1: Lycoming 0-1
MACF 0-1: Delaware Valley 0-1
MASCAC 1-1: Fitchburg St. 1-1
MIAA 4-2: Alma 3-1, Hope 1-1
MWC 2-1: St. Norbert 2-1
NAC 0-1: Husson 0-1
NCAC 5-3: Wooster 3-1, Ohio Wesleyan 2-1, Denison 0-1
NEAC 0-1: Lancaster Bible 0-1
NECC 0-1: Southern Vermont 0-1
NEWMAC 2-2: Babson 2-1; WPI 0-1
NJAC 0-1: Stockton 0-1
*NWC 1-2: Whitman 1-1, Whitworth 0-1 (Whitman beat Whitworth in Rd. 2)
OAC 1-2: JCU 1-1, Marietta 0-1
ODAC 0-1: Lynchburg 0-1
PAC 0-1: St. Vincent 0-1
SAA 1-1: Birmingham Southern1-1
SCAC 0-1: Texas Lutheran 0-1
SCIAC 0-1: Chapman 0-1
SKY 0-1: Old Westbury 0-1
SLIAC 0-1: Westminster 0-1
SUNYAC 3-3: Oswego St. 2-1, Cortland 1-1, Plattsburgh St. 0-1
UAA 3-2: Emory 2-1, NYU 1-1
UMAC 0-1: Northwestern 0-1
USAC 0-2: La Grange 0-1, Covenant 0-1
WIAC 0-1: Oshkosh 0-1
CAC 4-1: CNU 4-0, Salisbury 0-1
MIAC 5-1: St. Thomas 4-0, St. Olaf 1-1
NACC 4-0: Benedictine 4-0
NESCAC 8-3: Amherst 4-0, Tufts 3-1, Middlebury 1-1, Trinity (CT) 0-1 (Amherst beat Tufts in Rd. 4)
Pretty unusual that traditional power conferences ODAC and WIAC each had only ONE team and they both lost in the 1st round.
There were six men's teams that won the program's first ever NCAA Tournament game.
Congratulations to: Whitman, Hardin-Simmons, Endicott, Alma, Fitchburg, and Birmingham-Southern.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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I was using common core math. Sorry.
LOL!
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CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
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CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
I've never heard that phrase before. But you just got snowed (?)! I graduated from Lakeland. ;D
No Final Four team repeated from last year.
Only Augustana returned to the Elite 8.
4 of last year's Elite 8 missed this year's tourney (UWSP, RMC, VWC and ETBU).
Of the other 3 Elite 8 participants that made this year's tourney, Babson made the Sweet 16, Trinity lost in the 2nd round and Marietta lost in the 1st round.
And going the other way...
This year's Elite 8 compared to last year's results
CNU - missed 2015 tourney
Benedictine - missed 2015 tourney
Amherst - lost in 2nd rd
St. Thomas - lost in 1st rd
Augustana - lost championship game last year
Wooster - lost in 2nd rd
Alma - missed 2015 tourney
Tufts - missed 2015 tourney
I suffered through parts of the Michigan v Tulsa play-in game last night to check out Duncan Robinson. Solid all-around game for Robinson. 13 pts, 11 rebounds, 4 assists and 2 blocks.
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CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
I've never heard that phrase before. But you just got snowed (?)! I graduated from Lakeland. ;D
Snowed, indeed. Even Chuck's gynecologist (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=8431.30) is aware that you graduated from Lakeland, Tom. ;) :D
Massey sez:
Benedictine 81, Amherst 69 (BU 87% favorite)
St. Thomas 71, Christopher Newport 66 (UST 68% favorite)
As I said on the NESCAC board, I have my doubts as to the usefulness of the Massey Ratings in predicting the outcomes in Salem, given the widely-dispersed nature of the four teams in both the geographic and the scheduling senses. But it's still interesting to view the take of Ken Massey's algorithmic formulae on the Final Four.
I'm more confident that the Tommies will beat CNU than Benedictine topping Amherst...apologies to CNU fans.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 17, 2016, 06:10:51 AM
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
I've never heard that phrase before. But you just got snowed (?)! I graduated from Lakeland. ;D
Snowed, indeed. Even Chuck's gynecologist (http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=8431.30) is aware that you graduated from Lakeland, Tom. ;) :D
Dang, even I knew that Tom graduated from Lakeland, but it is hard to think of Greek and not immediately think UWSP. :P
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 17, 2016, 03:46:52 PM
Dang, even I knew that Tom graduated from Lakeland, but it is hard to think of Greek and not immediately think UWSP. :P
He's sort of a stealth alumnus of Lakeland. Perhaps his Lakeland diploma is printed in invisible ink. ;)
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 17, 2016, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on March 17, 2016, 03:46:52 PM
Dang, even I knew that Tom graduated from Lakeland, but it is hard to think of Greek and not immediately think UWSP. :P
He's sort of a stealth alumnus of Lakeland. Perhaps his Lakeland diploma is printed in invisible ink. ;)
Seeing as how Stevens Point has 4 national titles while the Muskies have all of one NCAA Tournament appearance (and a very short one at that), I can see why one would want to feature the former in their signature instead. :)
Going back to the top of the page, CNU had not been in the NCAA Tournament since 2013, while Benedictine had not made it since 2011.
I would feature my Muskies in my signature if there was actually something to feature.
As previously mentioned on the NACC board, the only claim to fame the Muskies have is winning the NACC tournament as a 6th seed (all the road wins were in OT)...but during a year the conference tournament champion didn't receive the NCAA AQ!
I spent my childhood growing up at Pointer games as my dad was a professor at UWSP and led the pepband (this includes 3 trips to Kansas City as a member of the NAIA). I spent 3 years at Lakeland. If the Muskies ever do accomplish anything on the hardwood, I'll probably be the 2nd person to let you know. My personal claim to fame as a Muskie was being a member on the only conference championship in Lakeland history in soccer.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
Hey now, I majored in Math from UWSP.
Tom went to one of them fancy private schools out east
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:07:03 AM
I would feature my Muskies in my signature if there was actually something to feature.
As previously mentioned on the NACC board, the only claim to fame the Muskies have is winning the NACC tournament as a 6th seed (all the road wins were in OT)...but during a year the conference tournament champion didn't receive the NCAA AQ!
I spent my childhood growing up at Pointer games as my dad was a professor at UWSP and led the pepband (this includes 3 trips to Kansas City as a member of the NAIA). I spent 3 years at Lakeland. If the Muskies ever do accomplish anything on the hardwood, I'll probably be the 2nd person to let you know. My personal claim to fame as a Muskie was being a member on the only conference championship in Lakeland history in soccer.
Well, there was Senator Ed Muskie of Maine.
Who's everyone got tonight in Salem? I think the Tommies will control the tempo and play their usual brand of ball and knock off the CNU captains. Other game I'm not sure, I tend to think Almhurst will "upset" the undefeated BU Eagles. Almherst too use to the final four but we will see. Should be fun!
Tommies and Eagles, oh my! :o
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CCIW 5-3: Augustana 3-1, NCC 0-1, Elmhurst 1-1
That's 4-3, Tom.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 16, 2016, 10:54:25 PM
I was using common core math. Sorry.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 16, 2016, 10:57:19 PM
LOL!
Don't let him snow ya, Greg. That was UWSP math! ;D
Hey now, I majored in Math from UWSP.
Tom went to one of them fancy private schools out east
Nothing says "fancy" quite like Sheboygan. ;)
You guys are killing me! LOL :P ;D ;)
Probably everyone who cares is already watching the game, but just in case: at the half, Amherst 29, Benedictine 25.
On the video link, was watching it before...took a shower and came back. All I'm getting is a frozen ad. ???
I'm refreshing...
Quote from: ronk on March 18, 2016, 03:43:33 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:07:03 AM
I would feature my Muskies in my signature if there was actually something to feature.
As previously mentioned on the NACC board, the only claim to fame the Muskies have is winning the NACC tournament as a 6th seed (all the road wins were in OT)...but during a year the conference tournament champion didn't receive the NCAA AQ!
I spent my childhood growing up at Pointer games as my dad was a professor at UWSP and led the pepband (this includes 3 trips to Kansas City as a member of the NAIA). I spent 3 years at Lakeland. If the Muskies ever do accomplish anything on the hardwood, I'll probably be the 2nd person to let you know. My personal claim to fame as a Muskie was being a member on the only conference championship in Lakeland history in soccer.
Well, there was Senator Ed Muskie of Maine.
Stop, you're making me cry.
Well, not sure if I was the only one with problems, but it would've been nice to see the 2nd half! :'( Not sure what happened as the 1st half worked fine. Looked (by live stats) a great 2nd half.
No need to worry about the 2nd semifinal as the Wisconsin Badgers are on at 6 pm Central time and then my high school alma mater is playing in the State semifinals for boys basketball on TV around 8:30 pm.
I'm assuming the championship game is on CBS Sports again?
Benedictine 63
Amherst 60
Amherst's Connor Green missed a potential game-tying trey at the buzzer. Defensive-oriented contest, but neither team shot well even when they had open looks. As one would expect from a game in which both defenses were sharp, neither team enjoyed a double-digit lead at any point in the ballgame.
Benedictine outrebounded Amherst by 20, which was the most tell-tale stat of this contest.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
I'm assuming the championship game is on CBS Sports again?
Yes it is. Starts at 6pm Eastern tomorrow night. And go Eagles!
I restarted my laptop and I'm watching the rest of the 2nd semifinal.
I was watching the Badgers so I wasn't on the laptop anyway.
St. Thomas 66
Christopher Newport 62
St. Thomas defeats Christopher Newport 66-62. So the Bennies meet the Tommies for all the marbles.
Tomorrow it'll be suburban Chicagoland versus the Twin Cities, so yet again we're going to have a champion from the heartland.
This will be the first appearance by an undefeated team in the national championship game since UW-Platteville went 30-0 and won it all back in '98.
This will also be the first time that two Catholic schools have met in the D3 national championship game.
CNU loses only 2 games this year, to the U of St. Thomas Tommies tonight and to Scranton, which, before it was taken over by the Jesuits in 1945, was the St. Thomas College Tommies.
Quote from: ronk on March 18, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
CNU loses only 2 games this year, to the U of St. Thomas Tommies tonight and to Scranton, which, before it was taken over by the Jesuits in 1945, was the College of St. Thomas Tommies.
I don't doubt you're right. +1
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
Well, not sure if I was the only one with problems, but it would've been nice to see the 2nd half! :'( Not sure what happened as the 1st half worked fine. Looked (by live stats) a great 2nd half.
No need to worry about the 2nd semifinal as the Wisconsin Badgers are on at 6 pm Central time and then my high school alma mater is playing in the State semifinals for boys basketball on TV around 8:30 pm.
I'm assuming the championship game is on CBS Sports again?
Sorry Tom, my high school alma mater smoked yours by 27. ;D
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
Well, not sure if I was the only one with problems, but it would've been nice to see the 2nd half! :'( Not sure what happened as the 1st half worked fine. Looked (by live stats) a great 2nd half.
No need to worry about the 2nd semifinal as the Wisconsin Badgers are on at 6 pm Central time and then my high school alma mater is playing in the State semifinals for boys basketball on TV around 8:30 pm.
I'm assuming the championship game is on CBS Sports again?
Sorry Tom, my high school alma mater smoked yours by 27. ;D
I went to SPASH, Steve. ;D
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 18, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
Well, not sure if I was the only one with problems, but it would've been nice to see the 2nd half! :'( Not sure what happened as the 1st half worked fine. Looked (by live stats) a great 2nd half.
No need to worry about the 2nd semifinal as the Wisconsin Badgers are on at 6 pm Central time and then my high school alma mater is playing in the State semifinals for boys basketball on TV around 8:30 pm.
I'm assuming the championship game is on CBS Sports again?
Sorry Tom, my high school alma mater smoked yours by 27. ;D
I went to SPASH, Steve. ;D
Then......WE WON ::)
Got the TV on mute and listening to the audio broadcast, The best experience.
St. Thomas leads 16-9 at the second TV timeout.
St. Thomas leads at the half 37-32. Benedictine started getting a bit better near the end of the half.
CBS Sports Net spent the halftime of the D3 National Championship game talking DI hoops. :P
Glad I'm on with the D3hoops.com boys.
You think those guys know anything about D3?? Hell, they probably didn't even know the teams playing!
They also had the wrong score for Benedictine at the bottom of the screen for about 5 minutes earlier in the half.
Purple reigns in D3 sports. Crying Tommie fans in the crowd. I guess they are happy tears.
Johnson for Benedictine is a monster offensive player but his defense was a big liability. Saarela had his way inside and Montero was able to take advantage of help defense that arrived late all game
Why in the world did Dodson go for a layup, down six with eight seconds left?
Great game. Congrats Tommies!
St. Thomas 82
Benedictine 76
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 19, 2016, 07:59:07 PM
Why in the world did Dodson go for a layup, down six with eight seconds left?
I don't think anyone could believe that.
Congrats to the Tommies upon joining a very exclusive club of multiple Walnut & Bronze owners:
| North Park | 5 |
| UW-Platteville | 4 |
| UW-Stevens Point | 4 |
| UW-Whitewater | 4 |
| Amherst | 2 |
| Calvin | 2 |
| Potsdam State | 2 |
| St. Thomas | 2 |
| Scranton | 2 |
| Washington (MO) | 2 |
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 19, 2016, 08:02:15 PM
Congrats to the Tommies upon joining a very exclusive club of multiple Walnut & Bronze owners:
| North Park | 5 |
| UW-Platteville | 4 |
| UW-Stevens Point | 4 |
| UW-Whitewater | 4 |
| Amherst | 2 |
| Calvin | 2 |
| Potsdam State | 2 |
| St. Thomas | 2 |
| Scranton | 2 |
| Washington (MO) | 2 |
Hmmm, I figured Gregory would bring this up. :)
Hey, it's relevant! ;)
Big ups to the Guru for dropping the word "proscenium" on us on the Hoopsville postgame show.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on March 19, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
Big ups to the Guru for dropping the word "proscenium" on us on the Hoopsville postgame show.
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that. I had to look it up.
Quote from: miac952 on March 19, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
Johnson for Benedictine is a monster offensive player but his defense was a big liability. Saarela had his way inside and Montero was able to take advantage of help defense that arrived late all game
I was exchanging texts with some fellow MIAC fans during the game and we commented on the same thing.
Great team run, and season by Benedictine.
Quote from: miac952 on March 19, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
Johnson for Benedictine is a monster offensive player but his defense was a big liability. Saarela had his way inside and Montero was able to take advantage of help defense that arrived late all game
Johnson is an incredible help defender; he's a skilled shot blocker, but he struggled when posted up. He's got good footwork, so you'd think he'd be able to improve there - then again, I would've thought he'd've put on another 25 pounds of muscle by this point, too.
Quote from: Hoops Fan on March 20, 2016, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: miac952 on March 19, 2016, 07:58:17 PM
Johnson for Benedictine is a monster offensive player but his defense was a big liability. Saarela had his way inside and Montero was able to take advantage of help defense that arrived late all game
Johnson is an incredible help defender; he's a skilled shot blocker, but he struggled when posted up. He's got good footwork, so you'd think he'd be able to improve there - then again, I would've thought he'd've put on another 25 pounds of muscle by this point, too.
If he could have generated the interest, he should have transferred to Michigan like Duncan Robinson. The UM strength coach has done wonders for him! ;D
What a season of Division III basketball and it isn't quite over with yet! The men might have crowned their championship, but the women have one more game to go.
On this episode of Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com), Dave McHugh looks back at the two championship weekends with help from Ryan Scott, Gordon Mann, and Adam Turer. We look at the championship for St. Thomas and the near perfect miss by Benedictine. We also take a look at the two semifinal games in women's basketball and the upcoming championship between St. Thomas and Tufts to be played in Indianapolis.
Dave also talks to Page Moir, head coach for Roanoke, who suddenly announced on Tuesday he is stepping down from the position and looking for something new to challenge him.
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Guests include (in order of appearance):
- Page Moir, Roanoke men's coach
- Keith Bunkenburg, No. 2 Benedictine men's coach
- Steve Fritz, St. Thomas athletics director and former men's coach
- John Tauer, No 1. St. Thomas men's coach
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com Mid-Atlantic reporter
- Gordon Mann and Adam Turer, women's semifinals report
- Jeff Hans, No. 1 Thomas More women's coach
- Carla Berube, No. 7 Tufts women's coach
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