Here are a few schedules that I stumbled upon. Feel free to keep adding to the list as most will be released soon. So far we have Messiah, Rutgers-Camden, Case Western Reserve, Ohio Wesleyan, Ohio Northern, and Rose-Hulman!
http://gomessiah.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
http://scarletraptors.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
http://athletics.case.edu/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
http://www.battlingbishops.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
http://www.onusports.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
http://athletics.rose-hulman.edu/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Messiah going heavy on the ODAC for their OOC.
Messiah schedule;
at Roanoke, Lynchburg (n), Oglethorpe, Oswego St, at Gettysburg, College of Mt St Vincent, York, at Miseri, Etown, at W&L...
Looks like they will need to win the MACC to get a bid... a few blemishes and they will be on the bubble...
W&L playing at home vs Messiah and at OWU... Love it
OWU opening up with a fantastic weekend hosting Calvin and Hope.
Some of these are very interesting, especially considering the discussion just a few months ago about SoS and planfulness.
At least looks like we'll finally get that Kenyon-Case Western game lol.
P.S. Looks like Case coach did a good job....@TMC, @JCU, @ONU, @Lycoming, @North Park and home games with DePauw and Kenyon, and then of course the brutal UAA gauntlet. Adding Lycoming and North Park both away on top of the others looks smart but also difficult.
http://pioneers.marietta.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=155&path=msoc
http://www.bwyellowjackets.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
http://www.hiramterriers.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Wartburg - http://www.go-knights.net/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Wheaton (Ill.) - http://athletics.wheaton.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoccer
Wisconsin Whitewater - http://www.uwwsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Wisconsin Platteville - http://athletics.uwplatt.edu/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Wisconsin Oshkosh - :(
Irrelevant, but South Carolina Men's Basketball got Middlebury'd.... and it's a devastating shocker that Monmouth DID NOT get in to the Tournament. They did what they were supposed to outside of conference and get shafted.
These big boy schools get rewarded for what... top 50 wins? Michigan had 4 wins vs Top 50 teams... but also had 15 (FIFTEEEN CHANCES)... Tulsa in is also an enigma...
Poor San Diego St, St. Mary's, and Monmouth...
Anybody else trying to play around with URLs to see if the schools have the schedules posted, but not released? hahaha.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on March 15, 2016, 10:31:14 AM
Messiah schedule;
at Roanoke, Lynchburg (n), Oglethorpe, Oswego St, at Gettysburg, College of Mt St Vincent, York, at Miseri, Etown, at W&L...
Looks like they will need to win the MACC to get a bid... a few blemishes and they will be on the bubble...
W&L playing at home vs Messiah and at OWU... Love it
OWU opening up with a fantastic weekend hosting Calvin and Hope.
Agreed. That Messiah schedule will only allow them to get the AQ. To be honest for a program like Messiah that is a very weak non-conference slate.
Case and OWU non-conference schedules look challenging. Especially a school like Case that non-conference combined with the UAA they will have a .600 or up SOS and now all they need to do is win some of those games. This makes MUCH more sense for schools to at least GIVE yourself a chance to get a Pool C by beefing up your non-conference and giving yourself MANY more chances to get quality wins. On the flip, I have never understood the option of having a great record with few challenges. That almost forces teams to put all their eggs in a conference tournament AQ to get the nod.
I agree Mr. Right. Do we think that Messiah is just being cautious and hoping to run the table to have an "Etown" like record if they lose in the MACC finals? The 5 losses hurt them last year but maybe they are thinking if that number is 3 or 4 losses they sneak in. Thoughts?
Also I am interested to see Etown and Lycoming's schedules. Do we think Etown learned and scheduled a few more tough opponents? Did Lycoming add any other notable names such as Case Western as we already know?
Lastly, I am curious to see some of the NESCAC schools non-conference slates such as Tufts, Middlebury, Amherst, and Williams.
Any other UAA schools release yet?
Just saw Capital's schedule - same as last year except three changes: dropped CWRU (will scrimmage preseason along with Oberlin); Hiram and Transylvania; picked up Wooster, Wittenberg and Finlandia (coaching connection to central Ohio and ODU).
While a strong schedule is a factor for gaining a post season berth, it also is a factor in potentially killing your team before conference play even begins. For teams not in traditional "power-house" conferences, it comes down to winning your conference anyway. So you might as well give your kids some challenges pre-conference but not necessarily make it a death mark.
Cap's non conference challenges include Hope and Calvin at the OWU tourney; Thomas More (away), Denison (away) and OWU (home)
Sitting 6 rows behind the US bench for the Guatemala game tonight - I'll be the one wearing a scowl, glaring at Cluelessmann . . .
Quote from: Domino1195 on March 29, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
Sitting 6 rows behind the US bench for the Guatemala game tonight - I'll be the one wearing a scowl, glaring at Cluelessmann . . .
Is there any chance he actually plays guys in position tonight? And plays tactics suited to our relatively limited skillset?
Not sure what this guy is doing - but his adamant denial on Monday that he played no one out of position (Friday's game)was ridiculous. Go to the MLS site and read the article - one of the best one-line comments on the Internet: "The problem is Gulati is playing Klinnsman out of position."
Well, hard to complain about last night. We shouldn't have been in that position, but when he put the guys in the right positions and relied on athleticism to pressure Guatemala into making mistakes... look what happened! We are a workmanlike, athletic team. Not a skill and finesse team. We need to use high pressure against these teams that sit back and force them to make mistakes with our athletes and use counter attacks to utilize our athletics and fitness against the top 20-30 teams in the world. This is how the U.S. can win games. We don't yet have the skill players or tactics to be a complete ball control, unlock the opponent team.
Shame about the U23s, but Columbia was simply a better team. Much like the qualifying for 2012, we choked winnable games against CONCACAF opponents and that can't happen. I still believe we are simply outclassed, though those younger players seem to have more finesse relative to many opponents than the senior team, but they aren't world class players. Until we have those pieces, we need to revert to the kind of game we played under Arena and Bradley, and Klinsmenn when push comes to shove at the WC, to maximize our success. Teachable moments are great for friendlies, not for qualifiers.
Yep - on several points. Since I first stepped on a field 50+ years ago we still have yet to adopt the "American" style of play. We've been made to feel inadequate about so many aspects of our game - as it compares styles around the globe - yet there are things we do bring to the game that define us (the energy Zusi expended the entire game is an example) - and that could bring us success.
We need a coach that will embrace our strengths, use formations that protect against our weaknesses and ultimately find the 11 players that have the best chemistry - not necesssarily the best 11 (see Beckerman). We have speed, strength and endurance - and we can keep possession. We are not going to break down a packed-in defense in their defensive 3rd - so we need to mix things up with more direct play at timely moments (last night's first goal). Klinsmann showed fear against Germany and Belgium - we could have run circles around those fence posts Germany calls defenders (see Ghana - see the game at home against the Cameroon prior to the cup - Germany had to hang on for dear life in both games).
But this is a US Soccer issue - they are as much at fault for not believing in the millions of kids born here, playing their entire lives here and who have contributed to defining our game.
What irritates me is it is something the women's team does so darn well and yet in the men's game we are so determined to play like everyone else. Our women's team is a group of outstanding athletes. Compared to Japan, Germany, Brazil with Marta, we were outclassed in "soccer" talent, but we beat the snot out of them in athletes and fitness across the field. Early in the last year's Women's World Cup we were being forced to play a style that didn't fit by the coach and the team struggled. When they went back to what worked after the group games they buried all that came against them.
I don't think the men's team can win a World Cup the way the women can, but more running and guts and less focus on pretty soccer is the way to get the most out of the current player pool that we have. Sadly our soccer cognoscenti aren't willing to accept that style as what we can do right now. So we have JK trying to make square pegs fit in round holes and reverting back to what works when he becomes desperate.
Any more schedule releases?
I don't see a schedule release for Brandeis, but according to the "D3soccer.com Scoreboard" John Carrol is playing at Brandeis on Thursday September 1st and Haverford is playing at Brandeis on Sunday September 4th. Can anyone confirm these games?
If true, the match-up of Brandeis v. Haverford would be one of the best opening weekend match-ups in the country.
Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 14, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Wow. Has to be a top 10 or even top 5 schedule in the country next season. Thoughts?
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on April 12, 2016, 02:51:48 PM
I don't see a schedule release for Brandeis, but according to the "D3soccer.com Scoreboard" John Carrol is playing at Brandeis on Thursday September 1st and Haverford is playing at Brandeis on Sunday September 4th. Can anyone confirm these games?
If true, the match-up of Brandeis v. Haverford would be one of the best opening weekend match-ups in the country.
Affirmative. Brandeis' schedule is up: http://brandeisjudges.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
The Judges are hosting the Brandeis Invitational, playing John Carroll on Saturday the 3rd and Haverford on Sunday the 4th. The Fords are
stacked, and while Brandeis will be at home, I think Haverford will really give them a run for their money.
In addition to those games and the UAA schedule, Brandeis has, in my opinion, four other notable non-conference tests, including away to
Babson (9/10), home against
Tufts (9/24), away to
Wheaton (9/27) and away to
MIT (10/5). A fairly predictable schedule given past years, but a strong one nonetheless.
Quote from: NEsoccerfan on April 12, 2016, 02:51:48 PM
I don't see a schedule release for Brandeis, but according to the "D3soccer.com Scoreboard" John Carrol is playing at Brandeis on Thursday September 1st and Haverford is playing at Brandeis on Sunday September 4th. Can anyone confirm these games?
If true, the match-up of Brandeis v. Haverford would be one of the best opening weekend match-ups in the country.
Lycoming vs Rowan on Thursday and @F&M on Saturday...might top Brandeis' start. Very tough for both teams!
Lycoming with non-conference schedule of Rowan, @F&M, @Susquehanna, @Eastern, @Haverford, @Juniata, Scranton, Frostburg, Case Western Reserve, @Misericordia, @Oneonta St....
Games vs 6 NCAA tournament teams from last year including 4 of those on the road and that doesn't take into account traveling to Messiah at least once...very, very tough.
Using records from last year here is the breakdown for Lycoming's schedule. Can someone please see if someone else will have a higher SOS based off of last year? Camden? Oneonta? Tufts? Amherst? Brandeis? Haverford? All are close I would imagine.
Non-conference schedule: 141-63-14 (8-6 in NCAA tournament) 1 Final 4 team, 1 Elite 8 team, 1 Sweet 16 team, 1 second round team, and 2 first round teams
Conference schedule: 69-75-13
Overall: 210-138-27 opponents record
For comparison Messiah plays two NCAA tournament teams from last year, one non-conference team which lost in the 2nd round being Wash. & Lee and the other being Lycoming.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
Using records from last year here is the breakdown for Lycoming's schedule. Can someone please see if someone else will have a higher SOS based off of last year? Camden? Oneonta? Tufts? Amherst? Brandeis? Haverford? All are close I would imagine.
Non-conference schedule: 141-63-14 (8-6 in NCAA tournament) 1 Final 4 team, 1 Elite 8 team, 1 Sweet 16 team, 1 second round team, and 2 first round teams
Conference schedule: 69-75-13
Overall: 210-138-27 opponents record
For comparison Messiah plays two NCAA tournament teams from last year, one non-conference team which lost in the 2nd round being Wash. & Lee and the other being Lycoming.
I was also checking out their roster, doesn't look like they are losing anything from their team last year. No Seniors on the squad?
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 15, 2016, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
Using records from last year here is the breakdown for Lycoming's schedule. Can someone please see if someone else will have a higher SOS based off of last year? Camden? Oneonta? Tufts? Amherst? Brandeis? Haverford? All are close I would imagine.
Non-conference schedule: 141-63-14 (8-6 in NCAA tournament) 1 Final 4 team, 1 Elite 8 team, 1 Sweet 16 team, 1 second round team, and 2 first round teams
Conference schedule: 69-75-13
Overall: 210-138-27 opponents record
For comparison Messiah plays two NCAA tournament teams from last year, one non-conference team which lost in the 2nd round being Wash. & Lee and the other being Lycoming.
I was also checking out their roster, doesn't look like they are losing anything from their team last year. No Seniors on the squad?
Yes that is one thing I mentioned at the end of last year. A Sweet 16 team that loses at Amherst with no seniors would be very dangerous next season. I must say I am a little shocked at how tough they made the non-conference portion of the schedule. I expected a slight increase in teams after all the chatter about their borderline SOS of the magical cutoff line, but this has to be over .600 right? Well over I would think. Close to .615 possibly? Not sure how to calculate it this is just my guess from last years records.
Brandeis' opponents on this year's schedule breaks down to these numbers:
185-128-31 (.582)
7 NCAA teams
2 Round of 64 teams (Babson, Carnegie)
2 Round of 32 teams (Chicago, WashU)
2 Sweet 16 teams (MIT, Tufts)
1 Elite 8 team (Haverford)
I'm impressed by Coven (and Margolis)'s seemingly newfound penchant for scheduling tough early-season contests against national powerhouses. The Judges lost to Trinity last year, but that was a learning experience for them, and they went on to win the UAA and make the Sweet 16. I think Haverford this year could be an even tougher test. Perhaps the opponents' losses were a bit offset, as the Judges played three middle-of-the-road teams who endured 12+ losses (Lasell, MMA, Nichols) — take those three out, and the OWP goes up to .652. That said, you play against who you play against, and those numbers don't mean anything. Rather, I am just opining that three teams made Brandeis' OWP much lower than the rest of the schedule.
The fact that Brandeis has played Tufts the last three (now it will be four) years is a great litmus test for both teams, coming before the heart of conference play. The one thing I would like to see them add to their schedule is perhaps another NESCAC team, someone like Wesleyan, although this would be difficult given that — bar Tufts — Brandeis is at least an hour from every NESCAC, and has to block off most of its weekends for UAA travel. Perhaps, as I've said before, they could move Tufts to a Tuesday or Wednesday and then open up a slot for another NESCAC this weekend? Obviously, there are some logistical things to figure out, but it is plausible I think. Either way, a solid schedule nonetheless.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 15, 2016, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
Using records from last year here is the breakdown for Lycoming's schedule. Can someone please see if someone else will have a higher SOS based off of last year? Camden? Oneonta? Tufts? Amherst? Brandeis? Haverford? All are close I would imagine.
Non-conference schedule: 141-63-14 (8-6 in NCAA tournament) 1 Final 4 team, 1 Elite 8 team, 1 Sweet 16 team, 1 second round team, and 2 first round teams
Conference schedule: 69-75-13
Overall: 210-138-27 opponents record
For comparison Messiah plays two NCAA tournament teams from last year, one non-conference team which lost in the 2nd round being Wash. & Lee and the other being Lycoming.
I was also checking out their roster, doesn't look like they are losing anything from their team last year. No Seniors on the squad?
Yes that is one thing I mentioned at the end of last year. A Sweet 16 team that loses at Amherst with no seniors would be very dangerous next season. I must say I am a little shocked at how tough they made the non-conference portion of the schedule. I expected a slight increase in teams after all the chatter about their borderline SOS of the magical cutoff line, but this has to be over .600 right? Well over I would think. Close to .615 possibly? Not sure how to calculate it this is just my guess from last years records.
I don't do math unless I have to ;) Hope one of their few losses next year is to Scranton..;)
https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMensSoccer/photos/a.378515705505627.94337.180138298676703/1162003760490147/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMensSoccer/photos/a.378515705505627.94337.180138298676703/1162003760490147/?type=3&theater)
Messiah soccer alumni game from this past Saturday -- pic from their Facebook page. Strong support like that is one of several reasons why a program like Messiah may have been down a bit last season but they won't be out for long.
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 16, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 15, 2016, 01:41:12 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on April 15, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
Using records from last year here is the breakdown for Lycoming's schedule. Can someone please see if someone else will have a higher SOS based off of last year? Camden? Oneonta? Tufts? Amherst? Brandeis? Haverford? All are close I would imagine.
Non-conference schedule: 141-63-14 (8-6 in NCAA tournament) 1 Final 4 team, 1 Elite 8 team, 1 Sweet 16 team, 1 second round team, and 2 first round teams
Conference schedule: 69-75-13
Overall: 210-138-27 opponents record
For comparison Messiah plays two NCAA tournament teams from last year, one non-conference team which lost in the 2nd round being Wash. & Lee and the other being Lycoming.
I was also checking out their roster, doesn't look like they are losing anything from their team last year. No Seniors on the squad?
Yes that is one thing I mentioned at the end of last year. A Sweet 16 team that loses at Amherst with no seniors would be very dangerous next season. I must say I am a little shocked at how tough they made the non-conference portion of the schedule. I expected a slight increase in teams after all the chatter about their borderline SOS of the magical cutoff line, but this has to be over .600 right? Well over I would think. Close to .615 possibly? Not sure how to calculate it this is just my guess from last years records.
I don't do math unless I have to ;) Hope one of their few losses next year is to Scranton..;)
I anticipate that it will be a great game! :)
Quote from: D3soccerwatcher on April 18, 2016, 12:34:38 AM
https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMensSoccer/photos/a.378515705505627.94337.180138298676703/1162003760490147/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMensSoccer/photos/a.378515705505627.94337.180138298676703/1162003760490147/?type=3&theater)
Messiah soccer alumni game from this past Saturday -- pic from their Facebook page. Strong support like that is one of several reasons why a program like Messiah may have been down a bit last season but they won't be out for long.
Great turnout for the Falcons fan base. I agree that they won't be down and out for long!
Looking at Lyco schedule; 8 home games, 11 road games (vs the likes of F&M, Haverford, Eastern, Messiah, and Oneonta St) bolsters the SOS to around .627. Just a brutal schedule and strong move by the staff to get some big time games in this season.
Rowan 16 6 0 0.618181818
F&M 17 4 0 1.011904762
Susqu 9 7 2 0.694444444
Eastern 16 3 2 1.011904762
Haverford 18 4 0 1.022727273
Juniata 3 13 1 0.257352941
Scranton 11 7 2 0.51
FSU 11 5 2 0.566666667
CWRU 13 4 1 0.6375
Miseri 7 7 2 0.5859375
Arcadia 11 7 3 0.505
Albright 1 15 1 0.110294118
Alvernia 9 7 6 0.463636364
Messiah 14 5 1 0.90625
Widener 9 10 1 0.59375
LVC 8 10 0 0.377777778
Hood 12 9 0 0.714285714
Oneonta 19 3 2 1.041666667
Stevenson 5 12 1 0.259722222
209 137 27 0.62711858
Non-weighted = .596
Weighted with H/A factors = .626
I don't remember what Rutgers-Camden was using 2015 results for 2016 schedule, but I believe it was around the same as what Lyco has in line for 2016.
2016 CAMDEN SOS
Salisbury 13 4 3 0.90625
St. Mary 9 9 2 0.5
Alvernia 9 7 6 0.463636364
Farm St 10 9 2 0.445238095
Cabrini 15 3 3 0.982142857
USMMA 9 7 1 0.475
Haverford 18 4 0 1.022727273
Swat 7 9 3 0.380263158
Brockport 12 4 2 0.613888889
Miseri 7 7 2 0.625
MSU 19 3 1 1.059782609
Rowan 16 6 0 0.909090909
Stockton 14 6 1 0.863095238
Newark 16 7 1 0.584375
Kean 14 6 0 0.595
TCNJ 10 5 2 0.55
WPU 6 9 2 0.35
Ramapo 8 9 2 0.592105263
NJCU 1 16 0 0.078125
213 130 33 0.631353719
Non-weighted = .610
Weighted with H/A factors = .631
BRANDEIS
JCarroll 14 4 2 0.638
Haverford 18 4 0 0.695
at Nichols 7 12 0 0.461
at Babson 12 7 2 0.774
at WPI 11 7 2 0.750
Tufts 11 5 3 0.559
Wheaton 11 8 0 0.492
at CMU 11 4 3 0.868
at MIT 18 3 1 1.051
CWRU 13 4 1 0.638
at MA-Mar 5 12 0 0.521
at Chicago 12 5 3 0.844
atWashMO 12 4 4 0.875
Clark 5 10 2 0.300
at Lasell 3 13 0 0.234
Emory 9 6 2 0.500
Rochester 6 5 5 0.452
at NYU 6 12 0 0.417
184 125 30 0.615
Haverford 2016
Okay, so we know they have Brandeis on Sunday the 4th. The question remains who the 4th team is for the Brandeis Invitational that the Fords would play on Saturday.
Will they drop Rosemont off the schedule. Close in proximity to the school, but this game crushes SOS. They've played 3 of the last 4 years, but I think this one is going bye-bye. Why not look to add Cabrini again?
The Fords have been beefing up the NJAC slate; Rutgers-Camden, Rowan, Kean, MSU or Stockton. They've also played WPU and Rutgers-Newark.
Out of conference predictions:
Keene St (wishful thinking for Middlebury or Wesleyan here in this spot)
Brandeis
Eastern
Rutgers-Camden
MSU
Rowan
Kean
E-town
possibly Stevens Tech
possibly Cabrini
Messiah needs some bigger names on their resume and they've played the Fords in 2 of the previous 5 seasons. Would be a good add for both schools.
Eastern also played Haverford in 2011 and 2012... this game would make sense for both schools.
E-town also needs some stronger out-of-conference games. Haverford has played Scranton, Drew, Catholic in the past...
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 18, 2016, 02:24:32 PM
Haverford 2016
Okay, so we know they have Brandeis on Sunday the 4th. The question remains who the 4th team is for the Brandeis Invitational that the Fords would play on Saturday.
Will they drop Rosemont off the schedule. Close in proximity to the school, but this game crushes SOS. They've played 3 of the last 4 years, but I think this one is going bye-bye. Why not look to add Cabrini again?
The Fords have been beefing up the NJAC slate; Rutgers-Camden, Rowan, Kean, MSU or Stockton. They've also played WPU and Rutgers-Newark.
Out of conference predictions:
Keene St (wishful thinking for Middlebury or Wesleyan here in this spot)
Brandeis
Eastern
Rutgers-Camden
MSU
Rowan
Kean
E-town
possibly Stevens Tech
possibly Cabrini
Messiah needs some bigger names on their resume and they've played the Fords in 2 of the previous 5 seasons. Would be a good add for both schools.
Eastern also played Haverford in 2011 and 2012... this game would make sense for both schools.
E-town also needs some stronger out-of-conference games. Haverford has played Scranton, Drew, Catholic in the past...
Based off of Lycoming's schedule it looks like they are at Eastern and at Haverford on the same weekend so I would imagine that is also some kind of tournament that they are hosting? Messiah's schedule has been released and Haverford is not on it.
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 14, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Brutal is an understatement. I don't see them winning more than 12 games this regular season.
12-5-2 is my early bird prediction. 1 win, 2 losses and 1 tie from the grouping of Rowan, @F&M, @Eastern, @Fords, 1 loss during the home game stretch with Scranton/FSU/CWR, Loss @Messiah, Loss @Oneonta and a tie vs Alvernia in conference.
Would 13-6-2 put them in with an at-large bid assuming they make the MACC final and lose to Messiah? (Hypothetical situation)
It come's down to the Rutgers Camden example again of what happens if this...
I think if they go 13-6-2 they are a lock with that schedule assuming all those teams live up to expectations like they did last year.
But what happens if they go 11-6-4...then it gets tricky with the ties. Once again all hypothetical!
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 18, 2016, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 14, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Brutal is an understatement. I don't see them winning more than 12 games this regular season.
12-5-2 is my early bird prediction. 1 win, 2 losses and 1 tie from the grouping of Rowan, @F&M, @Eastern, @Fords, 1 loss during the home game stretch with Scranton/FSU/CWR, Loss @Messiah, Loss @Oneonta and a tie vs Alvernia in conference.
Would 13-6-2 put them in with an at-large bid assuming they make the MACC final and lose to Messiah? (Hypothetical situation)
It come's down to the Rutgers Camden example again of what happens if this...
I think if they go 13-6-2 they are a lock with that schedule assuming all those teams live up to expectations like they did last year.
But what happens if they go 11-6-4...then it gets tricky with the ties. Once again all hypothetical!
I see where you are coming from Shooter, but I will give them a little more credit than that. This is a team that went 18-2-2 last year with one of their losses being to the national champs Amherst and they don't lose a single player from the roster. They rarely lose at home (1 loss at home in last 2 years) and they rarely give up goals (13 shutouts last season). Those two factors are big keys to their success. Here are my "early bird" predictions: 1 home game and 5 road games in their first 6 which I see them coming out of that chunk 4-1-1. Next they have 3 home games and 1 away game which I see them sweeping thru with at worst 3 wins and 1 tie. So that chunk they go 3-0-1 putting them at 7-1-2 entering conference play. I think they go 7-1 in conference losing at Messiah this year. That puts them at 14-2-2 overall with Oneonta St being the last non-conference game for them which they will tie on the road which gives them a 14-2-3 overall record heading into playoffs. If they lose in the MACC finals, as mentioned before, that puts them at 15-3-3 which easily gets them an at-large bid.
After watching Lycoming and Messiah numerous times last season, I believe that Lycoming has the edge in that match-up. They might lose on the road to Messiah in the regular season, but they won't lose twice to them. I also can't see them losing 6 times even with that schedule. They are too good defensively to not at least get ties in the close games they will have this year. They haven't had 6 losses combined in the last 2 years, so to say they will have 6 this coming season alone is too much of a stretch for me.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on April 18, 2016, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on April 14, 2016, 11:44:01 AM
Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Brutal is an understatement. I don't see them winning more than 12 games this regular season.
12-5-2 is my early bird prediction. 1 win, 2 losses and 1 tie from the grouping of Rowan, @F&M, @Eastern, @Fords, 1 loss during the home game stretch with Scranton/FSU/CWR, Loss @Messiah, Loss @Oneonta and a tie vs Alvernia in conference.
Would 13-6-2 put them in with an at-large bid assuming they make the MACC final and lose to Messiah? (Hypothetical situation)
It come's down to the Rutgers Camden example again of what happens if this...
I think if they go 13-6-2 they are a lock with that schedule assuming all those teams live up to expectations like they did last year.
But what happens if they go 11-6-4...then it gets tricky with the ties. Once again all hypothetical!
I still think Rutgers-Camden would have gotten in had they lost to MSU in the NJAC FINAL. Yes the blemishes were incredibly high, but so was the SOS (most likely top 3 in region) and we've seen UAA schools with blemishes relative to the number of games played by that of an NJAC school; Rochester 2014 10-5-3 record and 4th in the UAA... 8 blemishes in 18 (63.8%) games vs Camden 13-7-2 record over 22 games (63.6%). A team that had EIGHT blemishes went from not ranked in NCAA Regional Ranking to the #4 slot (in a large region) from the 2nd to 3rd release. Why would the NCAA slot them in this position if there was not a legitimately strong chance of moving them through, even with a 1-1 week during the secret ranking phase with games vs Stockton and MSU or Rowan in the FINAL.
If Lycoming were to make the MAC FINAL and fail to earn the AQ, I think we will see them get in with 9 blemishes (a first ever in terms of Pool C I believe). The parity of the division is growing and I think we will begin to see teams with more blemishes than normal secure spots in the tournament... If teams are winning 65% of their games and going out playing the most difficult schedule possible... they deserve a shot. Just my opinion.
My prediction is that Lycoming starts 2-2-2 in opening 6 games and finishes year with 4 losses (F&M, Haverford, Oneonta, Messiah) and 4 draws (Rowan, Eastern, CWRU, and a random let down) heading into a conference final vs Messiah. The resume for the season should be enough to get Lyco in. It's no disrespect to Lycoming, but going from mediocre scheduling history to this will have a big shock factor. The fact that Lycoming is on the map now and these big time schools have a chance to get a strong result at home will make it that much more competitive. I cannot see Lycoming winning at Oneonta or Messiah, but can see DRAWS at F&M or Haverford). I can also see Susqu getting a positive result early in the season hosting the Warriors... possibly a DRAW
Lyco vs Susqu
2015: Lyco 4, Susqu 2 (late goal in 86th min clinches win for Lyco... Lyco 17 shots with 6 on target, Susqu 15 with 8 on target)
2014: Susqu 0, Lyco 0
2013: Lyco 1, Susqu 3
2012: Susqu 4, Lyco 0
Thanks for the calculations LastGuy. Great insight as well. It will be interesting to see how it all shapes up.
Does anybody have any info on spring games for their respective teams? I know Lycoming played Bucknell last night...does anyone know the result of that?
Also Millersville/Elizabethtown hosted a spring tournament with a bunch of colleges from all levels this past weekend...does anyone know who attended and how they did?
Messiah travels to Shippensburg University this week from what I heard...I am sure we will be getting updates on that one (I hope)!
Any others? NJAC schools? NESCAC schools? Centennial schools?
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Thanks for the calculations LastGuy. Great insight as well. It will be interesting to see how it all shapes up.
Does anybody have any info on spring games for their respective teams? I know Lycoming played Bucknell last night...does anyone know the result of that?
Also Millersville/Elizabethtown hosted a spring tournament with a bunch of colleges from all levels this past weekend...does anyone know who attended and how they did?
Messiah travels to Shippensburg University this week from what I heard...I am sure we will be getting updates on that one (I hope)!
Any others? NJAC schools? NESCAC schools? Centennial schools?
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Thanks for the info. I also just got wind that Lycoming and Bucknell tied 1-1. A nice result for Lycoming.
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Thanks for the calculations LastGuy. Great insight as well. It will be interesting to see how it all shapes up.
Does anybody have any info on spring games for their respective teams? I know Lycoming played Bucknell last night...does anyone know the result of that?
Also Millersville/Elizabethtown hosted a spring tournament with a bunch of colleges from all levels this past weekend...does anyone know who attended and how they did?
Messiah travels to Shippensburg University this week from what I heard...I am sure we will be getting updates on that one (I hope)!
Any others? NJAC schools? NESCAC schools? Centennial schools?
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
I was not aware of that. Any reasoning behind that?
IIRC, it has to do with the league's schools' emphasis on academics.
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Thanks for the calculations LastGuy. Great insight as well. It will be interesting to see how it all shapes up.
Does anybody have any info on spring games for their respective teams? I know Lycoming played Bucknell last night...does anyone know the result of that?
Also Millersville/Elizabethtown hosted a spring tournament with a bunch of colleges from all levels this past weekend...does anyone know who attended and how they did?
Messiah travels to Shippensburg University this week from what I heard...I am sure we will be getting updates on that one (I hope)!
Any others? NJAC schools? NESCAC schools? Centennial schools?
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
I was not aware of that. Any reasoning behind that?
It is a league-wide rule across all sports that the school presidents adopted years ago. I believe the rule purports to advance the academic mission of the member schools. In soccer, other league rules (consistent with the foregoing mission) are that NESCAC teams are limited to 15 regular season games (was 14 until two years ago), and they are not allowed to begin preseason until a date after that allowed by the NCAA (which usually means they play their initial regular season game after only about a week of tryouts/practice).
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
Quote from: 1970s NESCAC Player on April 20, 2016, 10:47:26 AM
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
What is the range of soccer activities that occur at NESCAC schools between December and May? Pick-up futsal in the winter? Strength and conditioning "on your own"? Lots of captain's practices in the spring? Can players get access to soccer facilities during the off-season? Do they ever play scrimmages and, if so, with whom? I'm just curious as to how the league is able to maintain so many high-level programs without any out-of-season organized activities.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Don't have scores but the comment I got was "top of the table!"
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
I think Etown had a great season last year and was snubbed from NCAA's. With that being said, I don't know if they will put up the same kind of record that they did in 2015. 17-2-1 with losses @F&M and Scranton and a tie @Alvernia and big time wins vs Scranton, Dickinson, and Messiah. They just didn't have a hard enough schedule outside of those games mentioned, which is why they were snubbed. Desales, Gwynedd Mercy, Wilkes, and PSU-Harrisburg really hurt the SOS.
So to get back to your question NEPA, I do think Etown has to be considered the preseason favorites to win the league. But they lose 5 seniors who were a big part of the success from this past year so I am interested to see how they deal with those departures. Also, everyone knows about Waso now and will game plan accordingly to take him out of his game. I believe that Scranton, Susquehanna, Drew, Catholic, or even Goucher can make a push for the league this season. It's going to be wide open, but preseason you almost have to give the edge to Etown.
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Quote from: 1970s NESCAC Player on April 20, 2016, 10:47:26 AM
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
What is the range of soccer activities that occur at NESCAC schools between December and May? Pick-up futsal in the winter? Strength and conditioning "on your own"? Lots of captain's practices in the spring? Can players get access to soccer facilities during the off-season? Do they ever play scrimmages and, if so, with whom? I'm just curious as to how the league is able to maintain so many high-level programs without any out-of-season organized activities.
I can't say league wide but at least where my son played (last in fall 2014) all off-season activities were run by captains. That included weight training, running, captain's practices and a few spring scrimmages against similarly captain organized teams. There are also trips which I'm not sure how they get organized. I think that Amherst went to Europe a few years ago, and Wesleyan is going to Central America after this academic year ends
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Quote from: 1970s NESCAC Player on April 20, 2016, 10:47:26 AM
NESCAC schools are not allowed to have any out-of-season organized activities, so there will be no spring scores to report from that league.
What is the range of soccer activities that occur at NESCAC schools between December and May? Pick-up futsal in the winter? Strength and conditioning "on your own"? Lots of captain's practices in the spring? Can players get access to soccer facilities during the off-season? Do they ever play scrimmages and, if so, with whom? I'm just curious as to how the league is able to maintain so many high-level programs without any out-of-season organized activities.
I can't say league wide but at least where my son played (last in fall 2014) all off-season activities were run by captains. That included weight training, running, captain's practices and a few spring scrimmages against similarly captain organized teams. There are also trips which I'm not sure how they get organized. I think that Amherst went to Europe a few years ago, and Wesleyan is going to Central America after this academic year ends
Yup, that's how it happens in the NESCAC.
Quote from: Ishmael55 on April 21, 2016, 09:47:38 AM
I can't say league wide but at least where my son played (last in fall 2014) all off-season activities were run by captains. That included weight training, running, captain's practices and a few spring scrimmages against similarly captain organized teams. There are also trips which I'm not sure how they get organized. I think that Amherst went to Europe a few years ago, and Wesleyan is going to Central America after this academic year ends
Thank you, Ishmael! The accomplishments of the NESCAC schools are all the more impressive when the lack of out-of-season coach contact (and the continuity it fosters) is taken into consideration.
Haverford schedule released to alumni.
Western New England @ Brandeis
@ Brandeis
Alvernia @ Eastern
Vs Lycoming
@ Stevens Tech
Vs Hopkins
@ Stockton
@ McDaniel
@ WAC
Vs Getty
Vs RUC
@ Dickinson
@ Scranton
@ Muhlenberg
@ F&M
Vs Ursinus
@ Swarthmore
Haverford played at West Chester this spring and tied LaSalle 1-1 and West Chester 0-0. From the reports I got back from alum, Haverford carried the games in both of them and was unlucky not to score 3 or 4 vs LaSalle and at least 1 or 2 against West Chester.
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Haverford 2016
Okay, so we know they have Brandeis on Sunday the 4th. The question remains who the 4th team is for the Brandeis Invitational that the Fords would play on Saturday.
Will they drop Rosemont off the schedule. Close in proximity to the school, but this game crushes SOS. They've played 3 of the last 4 years, but I think this one is going bye-bye. Why not look to add Cabrini again?
The Fords have been beefing up the NJAC slate; Rutgers-Camden, Rowan, Kean, MSU or Stockton. They've also played WPU and Rutgers-Newark.
Out of conference predictions:
Keene St (wishful thinking for Middlebury or Wesleyan here in this spot)
Brandeis
Eastern
Rutgers-Camden
MSU
Rowan
Kean
E-town
possibly Stevens Tech
possibly Cabrini
Messiah needs some bigger names on their resume and they've played the Fords in 2 of the previous 5 seasons. Would be a good add for both schools.
Eastern also played Haverford in 2011 and 2012... this game would make sense for both schools.
E-town also needs some stronger out-of-conference games. Haverford has played Scranton, Drew, Catholic in the past...
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Haverford schedule released to alumni.
Western New England @ Brandeis
@ Brandeis
Alvernia @ Eastern
Vs Lycoming
@ Stevens Tech
Vs Hopkins
@ Stockton
@ McDaniel
@ WAC
Vs Getty
Vs RUC
@ Dickinson
@ Scranton
@ Muhlenberg
@ F&M
Vs Ursinus
@ Swarthmore
Haverford played at West Chester this spring and tied LaSalle 1-1 and West Chester 0-0. From the reports I got back from alum, Haverford carried the games in both of them and was unlucky not to score 3 or 4 vs LaSalle and at least 1 or 2 against West Chester.
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Haverford 2016
Okay, so we know they have Brandeis on Sunday the 4th. The question remains who the 4th team is for the Brandeis Invitational that the Fords would play on Saturday.
Will they drop Rosemont off the schedule. Close in proximity to the school, but this game crushes SOS. They've played 3 of the last 4 years, but I think this one is going bye-bye. Why not look to add Cabrini again?
The Fords have been beefing up the NJAC slate; Rutgers-Camden, Rowan, Kean, MSU or Stockton. They've also played WPU and Rutgers-Newark.
Out of conference predictions:
Keene St (wishful thinking for Middlebury or Wesleyan here in this spot)
Brandeis
Eastern
Rutgers-Camden
MSU
Rowan
Kean
E-town
possibly Stevens Tech
possibly Cabrini
Messiah needs some bigger names on their resume and they've played the Fords in 2 of the previous 5 seasons. Would be a good add for both schools.
Eastern also played Haverford in 2011 and 2012... this game would make sense for both schools.
E-town also needs some stronger out-of-conference games. Haverford has played Scranton, Drew, Catholic in the past...
Another brutal schedule to add to the list with Brandeis, Lycoming, and Camden.
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
Catholic, Scranton, Etown in that order for the Landmark next year.
Quote from: backyarddawg on April 26, 2016, 07:20:49 AM
Haverford schedule released to alumni.
Western New England @ Brandeis
@ Brandeis
Alvernia @ Eastern
Vs Lycoming
@ Stevens Tech
Vs Hopkins
@ Stockton
@ McDaniel
@ WAC
Vs Getty
Vs RUC
@ Dickinson
@ Scranton
@ Muhlenberg
@ F&M
Vs Ursinus
@ Swarthmore
Haverford played at West Chester this spring and tied LaSalle 1-1 and West Chester 0-0. From the reports I got back from alum, Haverford carried the games in both of them and was unlucky not to score 3 or 4 vs LaSalle and at least 1 or 2 against West Chester.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 18, 2016, 02:24:32 PM
Haverford 2016
Okay, so we know they have Brandeis on Sunday the 4th. The question remains who the 4th team is for the Brandeis Invitational that the Fords would play on Saturday.
Will they drop Rosemont off the schedule. Close in proximity to the school, but this game crushes SOS. They've played 3 of the last 4 years, but I think this one is going bye-bye. Why not look to add Cabrini again?
The Fords have been beefing up the NJAC slate; Rutgers-Camden, Rowan, Kean, MSU or Stockton. They've also played WPU and Rutgers-Newark.
Out of conference predictions:
Keene St (wishful thinking for Middlebury or Wesleyan here in this spot)
Brandeis
Eastern
Rutgers-Camden
MSU
Rowan
Kean
E-town
possibly Stevens Tech
possibly Cabrini
Messiah needs some bigger names on their resume and they've played the Fords in 2 of the previous 5 seasons. Would be a good add for both schools.
Eastern also played Haverford in 2011 and 2012... this game would make sense for both schools.
E-town also needs some stronger out-of-conference games. Haverford has played Scranton, Drew, Catholic in the past...
My predictions for the Fords is they will finish 11-3-3 with losses to Brandeis, Hopkins, and F&M and draws with Lycoming, Stevens Tech, and Camden. They will sneak by Stockton, Dickinson, and Gettysburg.
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Thanks for the info. I also just got wind that Lycoming and Bucknell tied 1-1. A nice result for Lycoming.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to attend the game, but I talked to a few fans/coaches that did attend. From what I gathered, Lycoming scored a few minutes in on a PK that was well earned but then squandered the lead less than 10 minutes later on a cross and header goal. Bucknell had the edge in the first half after tying it up and more shot attempts, but Lycoming had the edge throughout the second half and had the overall better scoring chances during the course of the game. It was a pretty high pace, physical contest as well and the teams decided to not proceed with the overtime periods.
It's a good result regardless for Lycoming and something I am sure they can build on.
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Thanks for the info. I also just got wind that Lycoming and Bucknell tied 1-1. A nice result for Lycoming.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to attend the game, but I talked to a few fans/coaches that did attend. From what I gathered, Lycoming scored a few minutes in on a PK that was well earned but then squandered the lead less than 10 minutes later on a cross and header goal. Bucknell had the edge in the first half after tying it up and more shot attempts, but Lycoming had the edge throughout the second half and had the overall better scoring chances during the course of the game. It was a pretty high pace, physical contest as well and the teams decided to not proceed with the overtime periods.
It's a good result regardless for Lycoming and something I am sure they can build on.
They decided not to play overtime because it was too physical of a game? Or they didn't play overtime because it wasn't scheduled for more than 90 minutes?
Looks Like Whitworth is headed East to try improve it's SOS and play some NJAC's.
http://www.whitworthpirates.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Surprised with only 8 out of conference games for Haverford. Could be a good thing.
Only five home games? Three Home for Centennial and Six Away? AWFUL
WNEC (neutral)
BRANDEIS (away)
ALVERNIA (neutral)
LYCOMING (home)
STEVENS TECH (away)
STOCKTON (away)
CAMDEN (home)
SCRANTON (away)
With this kind of schedule I'd have to say 7 blemishes before conference tournament... I'll be going to the Lyco-Haverford match.
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Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 20, 2016, 11:07:07 AM
I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
Catholic, Scranton, Etown in that order for the Landmark next year.
Why is that?
Kenyon schedule out...interesting given last year's SoS hulabaloo....
11 AWAY games, 6 HOME games
AWAY at Otterbein, Heidelberg, Catholic, Frostburg, Thomas More, Case Western, DePauw, Denison, Oberlin, Wittenberg, Wabash
HOME with Muskingum, Centre, Wooster, Hiram, Allegheny, OWU
Not as tough as some of the others noted above, but still looks like a significant upgrade especially with some road games that should boost SoS.
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Kenyon schedule out...interesting given last year's SoS hulabaloo....
11 AWAY games, 6 HOME games
AWAY at Otterbein, Heidelberg, Catholic, Frostburg, Thomas More, Case Western, DePauw, Denison, Oberlin, Wittenberg, Wabash
HOME with Muskingum, Centre, Wooster, Hiram, Allegheny, OWU
Not as tough as some of the others noted above, but still looks like a significant upgrade especially with some road games that should boost SoS.
I'd expect Kenyon's SOS to be a non-issue with that schedule. Some of it will depend on whether teams that were good last year remain so given graduation losses - Thomas More, Case, DePauw, and Oberlin all fall into that category IMO (Denison was young and should improve) - but just having that home-to-away ratio should be enough. I can't run the specific numbers (no time) but if you assume everyone they play is 0.500, the SOS would be like 0.554, which is fine for Pool C.
Curious to see Frostburg's schedule as they have picked up Kenyon and Lycoming that we know of and Case has picked up Lycoming and faces Kenyon again as well (back to back games I might add).
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Thanks for the info. I also just got wind that Lycoming and Bucknell tied 1-1. A nice result for Lycoming.
Unfortunately I wasn't able to attend the game, but I talked to a few fans/coaches that did attend. From what I gathered, Lycoming scored a few minutes in on a PK that was well earned but then squandered the lead less than 10 minutes later on a cross and header goal. Bucknell had the edge in the first half after tying it up and more shot attempts, but Lycoming had the edge throughout the second half and had the overall better scoring chances during the course of the game. It was a pretty high pace, physical contest as well and the teams decided to not proceed with the overtime periods.
It's a good result regardless for Lycoming and something I am sure they can build on.
They decided not to play overtime because it was too physical of a game? Or they didn't play overtime because it wasn't scheduled for more than 90 minutes?
Not really sure.
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
Catholic, Scranton, Etown in that order for the Landmark next year.
Why is that?
Catholic had a down year last season (losing in semis to Etown but 7-10-2 overall record 4-3-1 conference record) and historically has been at the top of the Landmark over the last several years. I think they will regain the crown in that league and, as others have mentioned, Scranton will be stronger this season than last so I have them second edging out Etown. I don't think Etown will recover from the loss of their 5 seniors.
Landmark Men's Soccer Championship History
2015 Scranton
2014 Catholic
2013 Susquehanna
2012 Susquehanna
2011 USMMA
2010 Catholic
2009 Catholic
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I believe E-town won their Spring Tournament... Teams that I heard participated... E-town, Eastern, Rutgers-Camden, Dickinson, Marymount, ... Don't have any scores.
Dumb question do seniors play in the spring of their graduation year? Or are they not included?
Figured as much, just wanted to confirm.
I think they are allowed to practice if they choose, but I doubt coaches want them playing in the spring game since it is building up for next year's team, which the current seniors would not be apart of.
Has Scranton's schedule been released yet?
No. You think ETOWN is the team to beat in the Landmark next year?
Catholic, Scranton, Etown in that order for the Landmark next year.
Why is that?
Catholic had a down year last season (losing in semis to Etown but 7-10-2 overall record 4-3-1 conference record) and historically has been at the top of the Landmark over the last several years. I think they will regain the crown in that league and, as others have mentioned, Scranton will be stronger this season than last so I have them second edging out Etown. I don't think Etown will recover from the loss of their 5 seniors.
Landmark Men's Soccer Championship History
2015 Scranton
2014 Catholic
2013 Susquehanna
2012 Susquehanna
2011 USMMA
2010 Catholic
2009 Catholic
Too early to tell but I would go Scranton, Etown, Catholic, Goucher, Susquehanna, Drew, Moravian, and Juniata...MM left after last season correct?
Most should be getting released pretty soon I would imagine? Any others to add to the list?
Just thinking of ones that are missing from the Mid-Atlantic region are Etown, Eastern, Kings, Misericordia, Alvernia, Susquehanna, Catholic, Scranton, F&M, Dickinson, Swat, Gettysburg and the list goes on...
Brockport's schedule is up http://gobrockport.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc (http://gobrockport.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc)
Out of conference games include:
9/2 SLU Away
9/3 Clarkson Away
9/10 RCU Away
9/11 Kean Away
9/14 St. John Fisher Home
9/17 Medaille Away
10/4 Houghton Away
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Brockport's schedule is up http://gobrockport.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc (http://gobrockport.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc)
Out of conference games include:
9/2 SLU Away
9/3 Clarkson Away
9/10 RCU Away
9/11 Kean Away
9/14 St. John Fisher Home
9/17 Medaille Away
10/4 Houghton Away
Impressive.
Especially with competing in maybe the best top to bottom conference in the country as well.
Scranton Schedule Out:
ptember
Sat 3 Gettysburg Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.; Royal/Monarch Challenge
3:30 PM
Sun 4 Cabrini Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.; Royal/Monarch Challenge
2:00 PM
Wed 7 Muhlenberg Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
4:00 PM
Sat 10 at Centenary (N.J.) Hackettstown, N.J.
TBA
Tue 13 Misericordia Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 17 at Lycoming Williamsport, Pa.
3:00 PM
Sat 24 at Moravian * Bethlehem, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 28 at Wilkes Edwardsville, Pa.
4:00 PM
October
Sat 1 Elizabethtown * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 5 Drew * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 8 at Susquehanna * Selinsgrove, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 12 Dickinson Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 15 Juniata * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Tue 18 Haverford Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 22 Goucher * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Sat 29 at Catholic * Washington, D.C.
3:30 PM
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Scranton Schedule Out:
ptember
Sat 3 Gettysburg Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.; Royal/Monarch Challenge
3:30 PM
Sun 4 Cabrini Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.; Royal/Monarch Challenge
2:00 PM
Wed 7 Muhlenberg Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
4:00 PM
Sat 10 at Centenary (N.J.) Hackettstown, N.J.
TBA
Tue 13 Misericordia Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 17 at Lycoming Williamsport, Pa.
3:00 PM
Sat 24 at Moravian * Bethlehem, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 28 at Wilkes Edwardsville, Pa.
4:00 PM
October
Sat 1 Elizabethtown * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 5 Drew * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 8 at Susquehanna * Selinsgrove, Pa.
3:30 PM
Wed 12 Dickinson Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 15 Juniata * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Tue 18 Haverford Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
7:00 PM
Sat 22 Goucher * Fitzpatrick Field, Scranton, Pa.
3:30 PM
Sat 29 at Catholic * Washington, D.C.
3:30 PM
No easy task by any means. I think they go around 10-5-1...9-4-2? Might be enough to get them dancing.
Scranton WORST CASE (10 blemishes) 6-6-4
Ws Centenary, at Wilikes, Juniata, Goucher
Ls: Cabrini, at Lycoming, Etown, Haverford, Dickinson, at Catholic
Ds: Gettysburg, Miseri, Drew, either Moravian or Susqu
Scranton BEST CASE (5 blemishes) 11-3-2
Ls: at Lycoming, Haverford, Dickinson
Ds: Etown, Cabrini
Scranton LIKELY: 8-5-3
Ls: at Lycoming, Etown, Haverford, Dickinson, at Catholic
Ds: Cabrini, Drew, Susqu
Upgrade in schedule the past 2 years in Scranton. Scranton vs Miseri features the old Scranton assistant returning as Head Coach of his new team.
Did USMMA move out of the Landmark?
Answering my own question here:
USMMA is now in the Skyline. Not sure if NCAA Tournament eligible for 2016, but they will be a November mainstay out of that conference for the future...
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Did USMMA move out of the Landmark?
Answering my own question here:
USMMA is now in the Skyline. Not sure if NCAA Tournament eligible for 2016, but they will be a November mainstay out of that conference for the future...
You should check out our website, D3soccer.com (http://www.d3soccer.com/), more often ;) We mentioned this in our August 20, 2015 article What's new for 2015 season? (http://www.d3soccer.com/columns/christan-shirk/2015/new-in-2015) in the final section "Changes (and Potential Changes) on the Horizon".
As to your lingering question: they are NCAA eligible this year. Not really sure why you would have questioned that. Their status as a D-III member isn't affected in any way by changing conferences or even if they had gone independent. The conference affiliation would only affect which tournament selection Pool(s) they are in (A/C or B/C). In this case, the Skyline was already an AQ conference and, obviously, adding another team doesn't do anything to change that, so USMMA will be fighting for the Skylines's AQ berth (Pool A) and, failing that, a Pool C at-large berth.
By the way, there's other changes in conference affiliation happening for the 2016 season (e.g. Carroll moving to the CIIW). Check out that article (http://www.d3soccer.com/columns/christan-shirk/2015/new-in-2015) from last year and then keep an eye out for a similar article again this year.
Plattsburghs's schedule http://gocardinalsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc (http://gocardinalsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc)
Non conference schedule:
9/2 Salve Regina University H
9/3 Medaille College H
9/6 Clarkson University A
9/10 Kean University N
9/11 St. Joseph's (LI) / New Jersey City N
9/14 Norwich University A
9/17 Skidmore College A
9/20 St. Lawrence University H
10/25 SUNY Canton H
Looks like a pretty weak SOS.
I will say again that the SUNYAC is one of the best conferences in the country, so overall I think this schedule is very intelligent.
If they make the conference semi's should be a dancing team I think.
Is SLU scheduling 7/9 of SUNYAC teams again this season?
I think we will be the 10th SUNYAC team this year.
That's a great conference for sure.
We fell just short of playing what would have been a great Elite 8 matchup against Oneonta last year.
There are about 6 SUNYAC teams that have a legit shot at dancing when the season begins... more than you can say for almost any conference.
Plattsburgh is the old king and has been good since I was playing.
Potsdam has had a great resurgence under Coach Parker (Beat SLU @ SLU last season).
Brockport and Cortland are known threats.
New Paltz made some noise last year and will look to continue their upward trends and ofcoarse Oneonta have arguably been the best D3 team in the last half decade.
John Carroll has put together a fairly impressive non-conference schedule:
Brandeis Invitational
9/3/2016 Brandeis University Waltham, MA 1:30 PM Details
9/4/2016 Western New England University Waltham, MA 1:30 PM Details
Bob Baptista Invitational
9/9/2016 Wheaton College (Ill.) Wheaton, IL 7:00 PM Details
9/10/2016 Elmhurst College Wheaton, IL 4:00 PM Details
9/14/2016 Penn State Behrend Erie, PA 7:00 PM Details
9/17/2016 Hiram College Hiram, OH 5:30 PM Details
9/20/2016 Case Western Reserve University University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 7:30 PM Details
9/25/2016 Carnegie Mellon University University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 2:00 PM Details
9/28/2016 Fredonia Fredonia, NY 7:00 PM Details
10/1/2016 * Wilmington College Wilmington, OH 7:00 PM Details
10/4/2016 * Heidelberg University University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 7:00 PM Details
10/8/2016 * Marietta College University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 7:00 PM Details
10/11/2016 * Baldwin Wallace University Berea, OH 7:00 PM Details
10/15/2016 * Ohio Northern University Ada, OH 7:00 PM Details
10/18/2016 * Otterbein University University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 7:00 PM Details
10/22/2016 * Capital University (Senior Night) University Hts., OH - Don Shula Stadium 7:00 PM Details
10/25/2016 * University of Mount Union Alliance, OH 7:00 PM Details
10/28/2016 * Muskingum University New Concord, OH 7:00 PM Details
Potsdam's Schedule: http://potsdambears.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc (http://potsdambears.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc)
Non-conference :
9.2.16 MEDAILLE N
9.3.16 Salve Regina N
9.6.16 Canton H
9.10.16 Mount Saint Mary H
9.11.16 RIT or Kings H
9.14.16 Hobart A
9.17.16 RPI H
10.25.16 Clarkson H
Fredonia's Schedule:http://www.fredoniabluedevils.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc& (http://www.fredoniabluedevils.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&)
Non-conference:
Sept 3 Merchant Marine A
Sept 4 Bethany A
Sept 9 Houghton H
Sept 10 Fredonia H
Sept 14 Nazareth A
Sept 17 Geneva H
Sept 20 D'Youville A
Sept 28 John Carroll H
Oct 4 Alfred A
I figured with the continued release of schedules we can also add the release of official incoming classes as they start to trickle onto the school's athletic websites...
Here's Messiah's: http://gomessiah.com/news/2016/5/10/messiah-college-mens-soccer-announces-2016-newcomers.aspx
Overall another solid class for the Falcons and one of the better ones in recent years. This group will be led by Cooper Robbins who was extended multiple D1 looks but decided to stick with the family tradition and head to Messiah. Other notables that will provide some energy right away are Shay Quintin and Jonathan Groothoff. The rest still have some work to do but I think Messiah is back on track with finding top quality in a majority of the players they are bringing in.
Montclair St
vs MCLA
@ Roger Williams
vs Rhode Island College
CCNY
@ Hunter
vs Stevens Tech
vs Whitworth
vs Ramapo
@ Moravian
vs Rutgers-Camden
@ Kean
@ Stockton
@ Manhattanville
vs Rowan
@ WPU
vs TCNJ
vs Alfred
at Rutgers-Newark
vs NJCU
Exactly what you'd expect from Montclair... Two solid programs, then mostly cupcakes.
Going by last years records: 197-144-28 // .572 // .548 with H&A Factors
ROWAN
@ Lycoming
vs W&L
vs SUNY Oneonta
@ College of Staten Island
@ John Jay College
@ Hood
@ NJCU
@ F&M
vs WPU
@ Stockton
vs Kean
@ St. Joseph's - LI
@ Montclair St
vs Rutgers-Camden
@ Rutgers-Newark
vs Brooklyn
vs Ramapo
@ TCNJ
Very brutal opening 3 games. Also at F&M, at Stockton, at MSU, and at Newark... With this schedule and the amount of road fixtures (eleven), it "should" be a top 3 SOS in the South Atlantic region and a top 5-8 SOS in the nation. Out of the 18 games... I'd think 8 blemishes before conference tournaments.
Going by last years records: 219-131-22 // .618 // .640 with H&A Factors
.640 has been the highest so far...
Endicott 2016 Schedule:
Home: Carthage, Husson, Tufts, Curry, Trinity (CT), Roger Williams, Salve, UNE
Away: Umass Dartmouth, Williams, WPI, Eastern Naz, Nichols, Daniel Webster, WNEC, Babson, Wentworth, Gordon
Much stronger schedule for the Gulls this year non conference. Also key with the stronger conference teams on the road. Should have a much higher SOS this year compared to last which was reason they missed out at 15-2-3 overall regular season. Will be interesting to see how they cope with big loses offensively. Defense will be just as good if not better as they return whole back line and goalkeeper. Recruiting class is completely offense as well as two intriguing transfers. Glad they beefed up schedule big time, should be interesting to see results with a very young team.
HAVERFORD opponents record last year: 187-111-36 // .614 non weighted // .649 weighted
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HAVERFORD opponents record last year: 187-111-36 // .614 non weighted // .649 weighted
What is Lycoming's with last years records?
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Endicott 2016 Schedule:
Home: Carthage, Husson, Tufts, Curry, Trinity (CT), Roger Williams, Salve, UNE
Away: Umass Dartmouth, Williams, WPI, Eastern Naz, Nichols, Daniel Webster, WNEC, Babson, Wentworth, Gordon
Much stronger schedule for the Gulls this year non conference. Also key with the stronger conference teams on the road. Should have a much higher SOS this year compared to last which was reason they missed out at 15-2-3 overall regular season. Will be interesting to see how they cope with big loses offensively. Defense will be just as good if not better as they return whole back line and goalkeeper. Recruiting class is completely offense as well as two intriguing transfers. Glad they beefed up schedule big time, should be interesting to see results with a very young team.
That's got to be one of the strongest non-conference for a CCC school that I've seen in a while. Three NESCACs, two very solid NEWMACs, and a good NCAA team in Carthage. I think we all pretty much saw the writing on the wall when they lost at home to Gordon in the CCC final, as their non-conference schedule wasn't good enough, but it seems that the message has been received. Better yet, those who played in that game this year can use that as a learning experience, as I think the Gulls had some stage fright, especially after going 1-0 down so early. Getting in that situation a second time with the experience of having been there before could help, and allow them to get the resolve to fight back.
While there are some big losses offensively, very good point about the defense remaining relatively intact. If they can keep things tight at the back and nick some 1-0s along the way, a la Brandeis 2015, I think they could have a very good year. Those CCC playoff games tend to be smash-and-grab, OT decisions, so provided they make it to the postseason I think they could do very well.
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Looking at Lyco schedule; 8 home games, 11 road games (vs the likes of F&M, Haverford, Eastern, Messiah, and Oneonta St) bolsters the SOS to around .627. Just a brutal schedule and strong move by the staff to get some big time games in this season.
Rowan 16 6 0 0.618181818
F&M 17 4 0 1.011904762
Susqu 9 7 2 0.694444444
Eastern 16 3 2 1.011904762
Haverford 18 4 0 1.022727273
Juniata 3 13 1 0.257352941
Scranton 11 7 2 0.51
FSU 11 5 2 0.566666667
CWRU 13 4 1 0.6375
Miseri 7 7 2 0.5859375
Arcadia 11 7 3 0.505
Albright 1 15 1 0.110294118
Alvernia 9 7 6 0.463636364
Messiah 14 5 1 0.90625
Widener 9 10 1 0.59375
LVC 8 10 0 0.377777778
Hood 12 9 0 0.714285714
Oneonta 19 3 2 1.041666667
Stevenson 5 12 1 0.259722222
209 137 27 0.62711858
Non-weighted = .596
Weighted with H/A factors = .626
I don't remember what Rutgers-Camden was using 2015 results for 2016 schedule, but I believe it was around the same as what Lyco has in line for 2016.
Here you go, MAF... And to answer my question about Camden for 2016; SOS is .610 non weighted; .631 weighted... right in line with Lyco's .626.
Messiah should have a stronger record this year. Oneonta may drop a few more games. Rowan schedule is just brutal. F&M is a mystery to me...
Brockport with only 6 home games. I thought the SOS would have been much higher: Non weighted .578; weighted .603 Getting the strong teams at home hurts the SOS, but definitely increases the chance for W's... Brockport should be tourney bound.
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Looking at Lyco schedule; 8 home games, 11 road games (vs the likes of F&M, Haverford, Eastern, Messiah, and Oneonta St) bolsters the SOS to around .627. Just a brutal schedule and strong move by the staff to get some big time games in this season.
Rowan 16 6 0 0.618181818
F&M 17 4 0 1.011904762
Susqu 9 7 2 0.694444444
Eastern 16 3 2 1.011904762
Haverford 18 4 0 1.022727273
Juniata 3 13 1 0.257352941
Scranton 11 7 2 0.51
FSU 11 5 2 0.566666667
CWRU 13 4 1 0.6375
Miseri 7 7 2 0.5859375
Arcadia 11 7 3 0.505
Albright 1 15 1 0.110294118
Alvernia 9 7 6 0.463636364
Messiah 14 5 1 0.90625
Widener 9 10 1 0.59375
LVC 8 10 0 0.377777778
Hood 12 9 0 0.714285714
Oneonta 19 3 2 1.041666667
Stevenson 5 12 1 0.259722222
209 137 27 0.62711858
Non-weighted = .596
Weighted with H/A factors = .626
I don't remember what Rutgers-Camden was using 2015 results for 2016 schedule, but I believe it was around the same as what Lyco has in line for 2016.
Here you go, MAF... And to answer my question about Camden for 2016; SOS is .610 non weighted; .631 weighted... right in line with Lyco's .626.
Messiah should have a stronger record this year. Oneonta may drop a few more games. Rowan schedule is just brutal. F&M is a mystery to me...
Thanks LastGuy! I forgot we discussed this some time ago. Lycoming has 8 home and 11 away. F&M, Eastern, Haverford, Messiah, and Oneonta St are all road games which will help boost the resume quite a bit.
I don't recall what I predicted some time ago with what a potential record could be, but looking at it today I am thinking you will see Lycoming around 13-3-3 heading into conference playoffs and they will win the MAC again making it 3 out of the last 4 years for conference championships. This would spark the discussion for a new dynasty in the Commonwealth and the end of a fruitful one with Messiah.
As others have done with worst/best case scenario here is mine:
Best Case: 15-2-2 (very possible)
Worst Case: 8-7-4 (don't anticipate this happening)
Probable: 13-3-3
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ROWAN
@ Lycoming
vs W&L
vs SUNY Oneonta
@ College of Staten Island
@ John Jay College
@ Hood
@ NJCU
@ F&M
vs WPU
@ Stockton
vs Kean
@ St. Joseph's - LI
@ Montclair St
vs Rutgers-Camden
@ Rutgers-Newark
vs Brooklyn
vs Ramapo
@ TCNJ
Very brutal opening 3 games. Also at F&M, at Stockton, at MSU, and at Newark... With this schedule and the amount of road fixtures (eleven), it "should" be a top 3 SOS in the South Atlantic region and a top 5-8 SOS in the nation. Out of the 18 games... I'd think 8 blemishes before conference tournaments.
Going by last years records: 219-131-22 // .618 // .640 with H&A Factors
.640 has been the highest so far...
Best Case: 13-3-2 (Easily dancing)
Worst Case: 9-6-3 (1 too many blemishes)
Probable: 11-4-3 (would lock up a bid in my mind)
I have high expectations for Rowan but the schedule is very, very difficult.
Kings College (PA)
http://kingscollegeathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&schedule=196&
No way in unless they get the AQ.
Misericordia
http://athletics.misericordia.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Flirting with the .550 SOS? Just the eye test but haven't calculated anything.
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Brockport with only 6 home games. I thought the SOS would have been much higher: Non weighted .578; weighted .603 Getting the strong teams at home hurts the SOS, but definitely increases the chance for W's... Brockport should be tourney bound.
They definitely could be but they will need to reload big time. They lose their starting keeper of the past 4 years, 2 starting defenders, their top midfielder, top goal scorer, and two impact players coming off the bench
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Endicott 2016 Schedule:
Home: Carthage, Husson, Tufts, Curry, Trinity (CT), Roger Williams, Salve, UNE
Away: Umass Dartmouth, Williams, WPI, Eastern Naz, Nichols, Daniel Webster, WNEC, Babson, Wentworth, Gordon
Much stronger schedule for the Gulls this year non conference. Also key with the stronger conference teams on the road. Should have a much higher SOS this year compared to last which was reason they missed out at 15-2-3 overall regular season. Will be interesting to see how they cope with big loses offensively. Defense will be just as good if not better as they return whole back line and goalkeeper. Recruiting class is completely offense as well as two intriguing transfers. Glad they beefed up schedule big time, should be interesting to see results with a very young team.
That's got to be one of the strongest non-conference for a CCC school that I've seen in a while. Three NESCACs, two very solid NEWMACs, and a good NCAA team in Carthage. I think we all pretty much saw the writing on the wall when they lost at home to Gordon in the CCC final, as their non-conference schedule wasn't good enough, but it seems that the message has been received. Better yet, those who played in that game this year can use that as a learning experience, as I think the Gulls had some stage fright, especially after going 1-0 down so early. Getting in that situation a second time with the experience of having been there before could help, and allow them to get the resolve to fight back.
While there are some big losses offensively, very good point about the defense remaining relatively intact. If they can keep things tight at the back and nick some 1-0s along the way, a la Brandeis 2015, I think they could have a very good year. Those CCC playoff games tend to be smash-and-grab, OT decisions, so provided they make it to the postseason I think they could do very well.
Very glad to see them go for it with a tough schedule. I think guys like Ocko and Weinstein can have very big years and lead them to having a very successful season. Gordon will be as good if not a lot better as they return practically everyone but that'll be an intriguing conference battle again. Endicott if they can win 11/12 games has a very good shot for an at large if they come up short again. I think this is a program to watch over the next few years as they seem to be building.
I have noticed a lot of crossover between teams playing one another for non-conference. This may be vital come selection time if teams are on the bubble for spots. Some examples of common opponents for teams are as follows:
Rowan playing vs F&M, Lycoming, Oneonta St, Hood, Camden
Lycoming playing vs F&M, Rowan, Oneonta St, Haverford, Scranton, Hood, Misericordia, Susquehanna, Alvernia, Messiah
F&M playing vs Rowan, Lycoming, Haverford that we know of so far, assuming Etown again
Scranton playing vs Lycoming, Misericordia, Susquehanna, Etown
Haverford playing vs Lycoming, F&M, Alvernia, Scranton
Camden playing vs Haverford, Misericordia, Alvernia, Rowan
Messiah playing vs Lycoming, Alvernia, Hood, Misericordia, Etown
Lots of teams playing common opponents which isn't unusual but the point I am getting at is that lots of common opponents that are good programs playing other good programs for the majority of these games. How much do you think this will factor in on selection day? It could get messy! But teams will really have an opportunity to separate themselves from the pack with these games.
The SUNYAC SAINTS:
http://www.saintsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Quote from: Saint of Old on June 23, 2016, 10:22:40 AM
The SUNYAC SAINTS:
http://www.saintsathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Love it. They should just join the conference
Occidental:
http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Some news from the Commonwealth Conference...still no schedule for Etown out of the Landmark...highly curious to see their schedule!
Widener:
http://www.widenerpride.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
Hood:
http://hoodathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Arcadia:
http://athletics.arcadia.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=243&path=msoc
Albright:
http://www.albrightathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
York:
http://www.ycpspartans.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Is this the year York gets back to the dance???
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on June 29, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Some news from the Commonwealth Conference...still no schedule for Etown out of the Landmark...highly curious to see their schedule!
Widener:
http://www.widenerpride.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
Hood:
http://hoodathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Arcadia:
http://athletics.arcadia.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=243&path=msoc
Albright:
http://www.albrightathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
With a little research this is what I came up with for Etown's schedule. Along with my 2 guesses and I think I am missing 1 game.
Conference Schedule(Hope I didn't mess this up)
Catholic
Juniata
Moravian
Susquehanna
Merchant Marine
Goucher
Drew
Scranton
Non Conference
F & M (9/14 at Etown - Smith-Herr Boot Game confirmed on FM schedule)
Messiah (9/28 at Messiah - Marshmallow Game confirmed on Messiah schedule)
TCNJ (9/3 - Blue Jay Classic confirmed on TCNJ website)
Hobart (Guessing 9/2 as the other team in the Blue Jay Classic based on Dickinson/TCNJ website)
Wilkes (9/7 at Etown - confirmed on Wilkes schedule)
Lancaster Bible (10/18 away - confirmed on LB's schedule)
PSU Berks (10/12 at PSU - confirmed on PSU's schedule)
PSU - Harrisburg (guess)
Alvernia (Guess)
For anyone interested, the composite NESCAC men's soccer schedule is available at: http://www.nescac.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule. From there, the schedule for any individual team is available by clicking on the individual school name.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on June 29, 2016, 02:54:24 PM
Some news from the Commonwealth Conference...still no schedule for Etown out of the Landmark...highly curious to see their schedule!
Widener:
http://www.widenerpride.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
Hood:
http://hoodathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Arcadia:
http://athletics.arcadia.edu/schedule.aspx?schedule=243&path=msoc
Albright:
http://www.albrightathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Why is Albright scrimmaging Lackawanna College in the middle of September? Seems a bit odd.
Oneonta
http://www.oneontaathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc (http://www.oneontaathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc)
Cortland
http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&tab=schedule2 (http://www.cortlandreddragons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&tab=schedule2)
Decent schedules for both Oneonta and Cortland. Cortland playing half of the Liberty League and Oneonta playing its usual mix of Penn and NJ teams. That Oneonta schedule is not as great as years past but certainly will be up around .590 SOS. The difference being is that most of its out of conference games are at home when years past they were on the road. Cortland looks like a .575
Kean
http://www.keanathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Much better than last season cupcakes; 2016 adds Rochester, Brockport, Drew... and also keeps Swat.
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 15, 2016, 12:36:45 PM
Kean
http://www.keanathletics.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/schedule
Much better than last season cupcakes; 2016 adds Rochester, Brockport, Drew... and also keeps Swat.
That is a good upgrade for Kean. They will have plenty of opportunities to get quality wins with their non-conference games and games within NJAC. I still think they have 4-5 Non-Conference opponents that are VERY WEAK and will drag that SOS and OWP way down. The question is do they have the same team coming back? How much talent did they lose?
Props to Babson for having a challenging schedule as usual with a mix of Nescac, NJAC and top New England teams. This will be a .615 SOS
https://babson.prestosports.com/sports/m-soccer/2016-17/schedule
Quote from: Mr.Right on July 18, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
Props to Babson for having a challenging schedule as usual with a mix of Nescac, NJAC and top New England teams. This will be a .615 SOS
https://babson.prestosports.com/sports/m-soccer/2016-17/schedule
Certainly impressive, and those opening four games are about as tough as you could expect any given four to be. Rutgers-Newark is a great addition, as I don't think they've played in recent years aside from NCAAs in 2014.
It doesn't look like Babson has a fall break or any type of day off on the 28th, so that 3:30 KO against Bowdoin after a 2 1/2 hour trip on a Wednesday afternoon will be a tough one. :o
Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on July 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Guess they didn't learn :o
http://www.frostburgsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
A dangerous and streaky team to watch this year in the South Atlantic Region...couple D1 transfers and some other notable transfers and recruits. Could make some noise in the CAC if they stay disciplined and avoid futher NCAA rules infractions.
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Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on July 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Guess they didn't learn :o
Disagree slightly here... plenty of chances to build the resume; Hobart, TCNJ, F&M, @Messiah (Drew, Scranton)
Should beat: Alvernia, at Catholic, at Susqu,
MUST BEAT: Moravian, Wilkes, Neumann, PSU-Harrisburg, PSU-Berks, Lancaster Bible, Juniata, Goucher....
SOS Weighted:
.538Non-Weighted: .529
With .540 SOS range, no more than 3 blemishes will see them through. 4 blemishes has them on the bubble...
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 25, 2016, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on July 21, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on July 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Guess they didn't learn :o
Disagree slightly here... plenty of chances to build the resume; Hobart, TCNJ, F&M, @Messiah (Drew, Scranton)
Should beat: Alvernia, at Catholic, at Susqu,
MUST BEAT: Moravian, Wilkes, Neumann, PSU-Harrisburg, PSU-Berks, Lancaster Bible, Juniata, Goucher....
SOS Weighted: .538
Non-Weighted: .529
With .540 SOS range, no more than 3 blemishes will see them through. 4 blemishes has them on the bubble...
17-2-1 last season with the same schedule and didn't get in. Plus this upcoming team won't be as good as last year. I see them going 12-4-1 and needing to win the Landmark to make NCAAs.
Losses to Messiah, F&M, Scranton, and Catholic and a tie vs Alvernia.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on July 25, 2016, 02:47:21 PM
http://www.frostburgsports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
A dangerous and streaky team to watch this year in the South Atlantic Region...couple D1 transfers and some other notable transfers and recruits. Could make some noise in the CAC if they stay disciplined and avoid futher NCAA rules infractions.
I think York will be the team to beat in CAC this year. Frostburg might be the most talented but will still be surpassed by the likes of CNU, York, and Salisbury.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on July 26, 2016, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 25, 2016, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on July 21, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on July 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Guess they didn't learn :o
Disagree slightly here... plenty of chances to build the resume; Hobart, TCNJ, F&M, @Messiah (Drew, Scranton)
Should beat: Alvernia, at Catholic, at Susqu,
MUST BEAT: Moravian, Wilkes, Neumann, PSU-Harrisburg, PSU-Berks, Lancaster Bible, Juniata, Goucher....
SOS Weighted: .538
Non-Weighted: .529
With .540 SOS range, no more than 3 blemishes will see them through. 4 blemishes has them on the bubble...
17-2-1 last season with the same schedule and didn't get in. Plus this upcoming team won't be as good as last year. I see them going 12-4-1 and needing to win the Landmark to make NCAAs.
Losses to Messiah, F&M, Scranton, and Catholic and a tie vs Alvernia.
Was E-town the first team out last year? Had the .525ish SOS been near .540, I think they would have been a lock to get in:
Hobart and TCNJ is a very solid opening weekend for 2016. I see them going 0-1-1 to start the season.
The Blue Jays season hinges on a difficult 2 week span, and we should be able to see if they are contenders/pretenders by Oct 8..
21-Sep........ Alvernia
24-Sep........ Drew
28-Sep........ at Messiah
1-Oct .......... at Scranton
5-Oct.......... at Moravian
8-Oct.......... at Catholic
Best case: 13-3-1
Worst case: 10-6-1
My prediction: 10-4-3
I keep seeing Alvernia's name mentioned in everyone's schedule so I included their schedule
http://athletics.alvernia.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Quote from: FootyFan on July 26, 2016, 04:46:42 PM
I keep seeing Alvernia's name mentioned in everyone's schedule so I included their schedule
http://athletics.alvernia.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Wow! That's one heck of a non-conference slate/opening month, followed up with Messiah and Lyco in-conference at the start of October.
9/1/2016 Franklin & Marshall (H) - Centennial #2 seed, NCAA Sweet 16
9/4/2016 York (A) - CAC #2 seed
9/7/2016 RutgersCamden (A) - NJAC champ, NCAA 2nd Round
9/10/2016 Haverford (N) - Centennial #1 seed/champ, NCAA Elite 8
9/11/2016 Eastern (A) - MAC Freedom champ, NCAA 1st Round
9/14/2016 Stockton (H) - NJAC #2 seed, NCAA bubble team
9/17/2016 Cabrini (H) - CSAC #1 seed/champ, NCAA 1st Round
9/21/2016 Elizabethtown (A) - Landmark #1 seed, NCAA bubble team
9/28/2016 PSU-Berks (H)
10/5/2016 Messiah (H) - MAC Commonwealth #2 seed, NCAA bubble team
10/8/2016 Lycoming (A) - MAC Commonwealth #1 seed/champ, NCAA Sweet 16
10/11/2016 Arcadia (A)
10/15/2016 Hood (H)
10/19/2016 Widener (H)
10/22/2016 Stevenson (A)
10/25/2016 Albright (A)
10/29/2016 Lebanon Valley (H)
• 8 of 9 non-conference foes and 10 of first 11 opponents were conference #1 or #2 seeds and/or conference champs last year
• 5 of 9 non-conference adversaries and 6 of first 11 opponents were NCAA participants (+3 bubble teams)
• 8 of 9 non-conference foes and 12 of first 13 opponents had winning records in 2015 (the other was .500)
It's possible (likely?) that Alvernia will only be favored in one of their first 11 matches (vs. PSU-Berks). Alvernia was on the rise five years ago under Casey Moore, setting a program record with 16 wins and a runner-up finish in the Commonwealth (only losses to Messiah) in 2011 and following that up with a good 2012 campaign that ended with lifting the ECAC Mid-Atlantic championship.
But it's been a mixed bag since even though they finished 3rd in the conference in 2013 and 2014 and posted winning overall records the last two seasons. They were rather young last year with freshmen and sophomores accounting for 9 of their top 10 point earners, so who knows what they are capable of, but this could too challenging of a schedule for this team. If they can keep from getting frustrated and demoralized, they should certainly be prepared to tackle for the Commonwealth slate. But there again the schedule does them no favors handing them Messiah and Lyco to open conference play, meaning likely having to play out of an 0-2-0 hole to climb back into a playoff spot.
Alvernia and coach Moore have their work cut out for them.
Alvernia SOS Weighted = .647, which places them #2 in terms of schedules that we have seen posted/linked to the forum...
Non weighted SOS is = .634
The Alvernia schedule for 2016 should see at least 5 of those teams making the NCAAs again
1) Haverford = .649
2) Alvernia = .647
3) Rowan = .640
4) Camden = .631
5) Lycoming = .626
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 26, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on July 26, 2016, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 25, 2016, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on July 21, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Quote from: NJrexSoccer03 on July 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
Etown's Schedule
http://www.etownbluejays.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
They are going to need to win the conference championship to get in!
Guess they didn't learn :o
Disagree slightly here... plenty of chances to build the resume; Hobart, TCNJ, F&M, @Messiah (Drew, Scranton)
Should beat: Alvernia, at Catholic, at Susqu,
MUST BEAT: Moravian, Wilkes, Neumann, PSU-Harrisburg, PSU-Berks, Lancaster Bible, Juniata, Goucher....
SOS Weighted: .538
Non-Weighted: .529
With .540 SOS range, no more than 3 blemishes will see them through. 4 blemishes has them on the bubble...
17-2-1 last season with the same schedule and didn't get in. Plus this upcoming team won't be as good as last year. I see them going 12-4-1 and needing to win the Landmark to make NCAAs.
Losses to Messiah, F&M, Scranton, and Catholic and a tie vs Alvernia.
Was E-town the first team out last year? Had the .525ish SOS been near .540, I think they would have been a lock to get in:
Hobart and TCNJ is a very solid opening weekend for 2016. I see them going 0-1-1 to start the season.
The Blue Jays season hinges on a difficult 2 week span, and we should be able to see if they are contenders/pretenders by Oct 8..
21-Sep........ Alvernia
24-Sep........ Drew
28-Sep........ at Messiah
1-Oct .......... at Scranton
5-Oct.......... at Moravian
8-Oct.......... at Catholic
Best case: 13-3-1
Worst case: 10-6-1
My prediction: 10-4-3
10-4-3 sounds about right! :)
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 27, 2016, 10:48:58 AM
Alvernia SOS Weighted = .647, which places them #2 in terms of schedules that we have seen posted/linked to the forum...
Non weighted SOS is = .634
The Alvernia schedule for 2016 should see at least 5 of those teams making the NCAAs again
1) Haverford = .649
2) Alvernia = .647
3) Rowan = .640
4) Camden = .631
5) Lycoming = .626
Did we factor out what Messiah's SOS will be based off of last season?
Messiah's SOS = .589
Opponents Records = 181-127-33 (.579) non-weighted.
Whoa, Alvernia's schedule is impressive but will they get results from some of those games? Last year, they had a lot of ties against quality competition but then fell flat against weaker conference teams. However, they finished off the season by winning the ECAC South Championship. The roster shows that they were very young last year but this schedule might be a bit too much.
Quote from: FootyFan on July 27, 2016, 03:07:20 PM
Whoa, Alvernia's schedule is impressive but will they get results from some of those games? Last year, they had a lot of ties against quality competition but then fell flat against weaker conference teams. However, they finished off the season by winning the ECAC South Championship. The roster shows that they were very young last year but this schedule might be a bit too much.
Footy, at first I thought the same thing. But is this a bold move by Coach Moore to prepare his young players for the future. If they can get a few good results this year it will build confidence for a very young team. Don't get me wrong there will probably be frustrations and lot of "parking the bus" at times but I think Coach Moore can get his team through those tough time. They will gain experience against teams that are either going to get into the NCAA tournament or will be bubble teams.
I was looking at this schedule and thinking how it prepares them for next year and maybe 2 years from now. Do you lighten the schedule in the coming years and the team is battle tested and now more mature. Can they get the results needed to possibly sneak into the NCAA tournament? It will be hard to get by Messiah and Lycoming but it only takes a game or two at the right time to get in.
Quote from: FootyFan on July 27, 2016, 03:07:20 PM
Whoa, Alvernia's schedule is impressive but will they get results from some of those games? Last year, they had a lot of ties against quality competition but then fell flat against weaker conference teams. However, they finished off the season by winning the ECAC South Championship. The roster shows that they were very young last year but this schedule might be a bit too much.
Love the model. We have seen teams build this way. Schedule tough teams and win post season games...
Stockton
http://stocktonathletics.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Mary Washington and Haverford sprinkled with cupcakes....
http://athletics.gordon.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
2016 Gordon Schedule: Clearly not a great SOS. They will likely need to win the conference tourney again unless they pretty much run the table and lose in the final. Getting results against Carthage and Tufts could reduce that necessity and allow a couple of "hiccups".
Quality matches:
Carthage is likely a 50/50 match. I have never seen them play live but they are a NCAA tourney quality program. They play Wheaton(IL) tough most years so they should be quality.
Tufts is Tufts. My guess it will be a closer match than last year's 1-0 final in Medford. That was a 60-40 match in favor of Tufts. Gordon is losing 2 starters but bring back all of its real difference makers. Tufts will of course reload but the main advantage they had in last year's match was Kayne et al in the midfield. They were so athletic. Gordon likes to have the ball and Tufts closed them down a half second faster than any one else on the schedule. It should be a great match and another good measuring stick for Gordon.
Endicott is always getting better. That being said I'm skeptical that they can completely replace last year's seniors. They represented the lion share of the goals and creativity. Their keeper is fantastic. The back four is coming back and they are solid and stingy - see 2015 results against Calvin and Williams....and most every match.
Traditionally strong CCC conference teams WNE and Roger Williams were seriously down last year and with newish second year coaches I will be kind and say they are rebuilding. Nichols was uncharacteristically bad last year. Wentworth was surprisingly good last year and I expect them to be a long shot to sneak into the regional rankings.
Econn St. at last year was a mismatch but heading down to Willamantic is never easy. ECONN is always athletic and willing to defend with resolve.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on July 27, 2016, 12:44:55 PM
Messiah's SOS = .589
Opponents Records = 181-127-33 (.579) non-weighted.
Thanks LastGuy!
Roanoke College Schedule:
Fri. 2 Messiah
Sat. 3 N.C. Wesleyan
Sat. 10 vs. Greensboro @ Lynchburg College
Sun. 11 vs. Juniata @ Lynchburg
Sat. 17 Mary Washington
Wed. 21 Southern Virginia
Sat. 24 at Emory & Henry *
Tue. 27 at Stevenson
Fri. 30 Shenandoah *
OCTOBER
Wed. 5 at Maryville (Tenn.)
Sat. 8 at Randolph *
Wed. 12 East. Mennonite *
Sat. 15 at Va. Wesleyan *
Wed. 19 Guilford *
Sat. 22 Bridgewater (Va.) *
Wed. 26 at Washington and Lee *
Sat. 29 Lynchburg *
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on April 19, 2016, 09:55:58 AM
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Lycoming's schedule is up..
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Brutal is an understatement. I don't see them winning more than 12 games this regular season.
12-5-2 is my early bird prediction. 1 win, 2 losses and 1 tie from the grouping of Rowan, @F&M, @Eastern, @Fords, 1 loss during the home game stretch with Scranton/FSU/CWR, Loss @Messiah, Loss @Oneonta and a tie vs Alvernia in conference.
Would 13-6-2 put them in with an at-large bid assuming they make the MACC final and lose to Messiah? (Hypothetical situation)
It come's down to the Rutgers Camden example again of what happens if this...
I think if they go 13-6-2 they are a lock with that schedule assuming all those teams live up to expectations like they did last year.
But what happens if they go 11-6-4...then it gets tricky with the ties. Once again all hypothetical!
I still think Rutgers-Camden would have gotten in had they lost to MSU in the NJAC FINAL. Yes the blemishes were incredibly high, but so was the SOS (most likely top 3 in region) and we've seen UAA schools with blemishes relative to the number of games played by that of an NJAC school; Rochester 2014 10-5-3 record and 4th in the UAA... 8 blemishes in 18 (63.8%) games vs Camden 13-7-2 record over 22 games (63.6%). A team that had EIGHT blemishes went from not ranked in NCAA Regional Ranking to the #4 slot (in a large region) from the 2nd to 3rd release. Why would the NCAA slot them in this position if there was not a legitimately strong chance of moving them through, even with a 1-1 week during the secret ranking phase with games vs Stockton and MSU or Rowan in the FINAL.
If Lycoming were to make the MAC FINAL and fail to earn the AQ, I think we will see them get in with 9 blemishes (a first ever in terms of Pool C I believe). The parity of the division is growing and I think we will begin to see teams with more blemishes than normal secure spots in the tournament... If teams are winning 65% of their games and going out playing the most difficult schedule possible... they deserve a shot. Just my opinion.
My prediction is that Lycoming starts 2-2-2 in opening 6 games and finishes year with 4 losses (F&M, Haverford, Oneonta, Messiah) and 4 draws (Rowan, Eastern, CWRU, and a random let down) heading into a conference final vs Messiah. The resume for the season should be enough to get Lyco in. It's no disrespect to Lycoming, but going from mediocre scheduling history to this will have a big shock factor. The fact that Lycoming is on the map now and these big time schools have a chance to get a strong result at home will make it that much more competitive. I cannot see Lycoming winning at Oneonta or Messiah, but can see DRAWS at F&M or Haverford). I can also see Susqu getting a positive result early in the season hosting the Warriors... possibly a DRAW
Lyco vs Susqu
2015: Lyco 4, Susqu 2 (late goal in 86th min clinches win for Lyco... Lyco 17 shots with 6 on target, Susqu 15 with 8 on target)
2014: Susqu 0, Lyco 0
2013: Lyco 1, Susqu 3
2012: Susqu 4, Lyco 0
Lyco with 6 blemishes midway through the season... SOS is .688. I still think they have a case to get in with the aforementioned potential 9 blemishes.
Is that SOS number up to this point for who they have played or total for all the teams on their schedule?
This is just a portion of the SOS; OWP. With OOWP it could be just as strong.
Up to this point in time... .688
Factor the rest of the season (using teams current records): .645
Factor the rest of the season (MACC tourney) to include LVC HOME, Messiah AWAY (using current records): .668