One of the truly great things about D3 soccer (in both an absolute sense and in comparison with D1 and D2 soccer) is the opportunity to view games online. I enjoy the chance to "visit" many campuses around the country that I would not otherwise be able to see. I thought it might be worth starting a thread where folks could post links to games of interest that are currently streaming just in case they are viewing the board and have some time to spare.
Just a few minutes ago, the Oneonta-SLU game kicked off. The crystal clear, announcer-free stream is available at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/7669592
Quote from: Ommadawn on September 08, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
One of the truly great things about D3 soccer (in both an absolute sense and in comparison with D1 and D2 soccer) is the opportunity to view games online. I enjoy the chance to "visit" many campuses around the country that I would not otherwise be able to see. I thought it might be worth starting a thread where folks could post links to games of interest that are currently streaming just in case they are viewing the board and have some time to spare.
Just a few minutes ago, the Oneonta-SLU game kicked off. The crystal clear, announcer-free stream is available at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/7669592
Great idea, Ommadawn! I myself find it very easy to get sidetracked and completely forget about an interesting game. Even if some of these games are listed on D3soccer.com, I think this could be very useful.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/centre/portal.htm?eventId=374692&streamType=video
Kenyon vs Spaulding
Gettysburg vs. Stevenson
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/centennial/portal.htm?eventId=385337&streamType=video
love this idea. thanks.
At the half, CMU 1 Redlands 0
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/redlands/full.htm?eventId=386513&streamType=video
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/dickinson/portal.htm?eventId=387084&streamType=video
Lycoming v. Dickinson
Lycoming up 2-0 at HT, but honestly both teams look pretty average.
F&M and W&L link - 2:30 start: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wandl/#live
JCU and Medaille feed - cost you $4:
http://www.medaillesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc&
Medaille is an interesting story - 2nd yr. British coach - turned over the roster - 22 Internationals, 6 US kids. Today and Wednesday's game vs Lycoming might be worth watching
You can catch the second half of the game UMass Boston-Wentworth game that Blooter is attending and reporting on at:
http://www.wentworthathletics.tv/msoccer/msoccer170911/index.html
Does anyone know how to save a livestream video? my google search giving me some options but they all got bad reviews. if there is a commercial software i don't mind investing.
Does anyone know how to save a livestream video? my google search giving me some options but they all got bad reviews. if there is a commercial software i don't mind investing.
Quote from: sokermom on September 11, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
Does anyone know how to save a livestream video? my google search giving me some options but they all got bad reviews. if there is a commercial software i don't mind investing.
Not sure about your question but an alternative is that if the team records each game they probably have them saved somewhere to just have or get via email. Would save you some money and time too! :D
I have seen Periscope used by students for some games. I have used the app and many folks in my industry use it for demos and workshops. If you're at a school like Oberlin, which offers 70MB upload and download speeds FREE to visitors, you'll be able to provide a decent feed and not use your data.
Sorry - misread your question - but i you want to provide a live feed - Periscope and FB are good options.
I use Audials - been using it for years to strip DRM rights off music files. The software directly records from sites like YouTube; for portal.stretchmedia and boxcast sites: the software will have you open the page, start the video playback, and record the embedded source.
https://audials.com/en/start/
Awesome idea!
Great Lakes feeds for key games today (for links not provided on the scoreboard) - note: Ohio is expecting the remnants of Irma to pass through tonight - many games will be impacted by rain:
Kenyon @ Marietta - 4:30. Marietta's "grass" field is poor - rain will only add to the tough playing conditions:
http://pioneers.marietta.edu/sports/2017/8/31/live-video.aspx
Medaille @ Lycoming - 4:30 - will cost you $4
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/sports/2015/8/17/Boxcast_80d1a1.aspx
Oberlin @ Grove City - 4:30
https://livestream.com/accounts/13431056/events/7671124
Ithaca (3-1-1) host Hamilton (1-1-1) Liberty/Nescac matchup 7PM
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/ithaca/
Quote from: Domino1195 on September 13, 2017, 11:06:46 AM
Great Lakes feeds for key games today (for links not provided on the scoreboard) - note: Ohio is expecting the remnants of Irma to pass through tonight - many games will be impacted by rain:
Kenyon @ Marietta - 4:30. Marietta's "grass" field is poor - rain will only add to the tough playing conditions:
http://pioneers.marietta.edu/sports/2017/8/31/live-video.aspx
Medaille @ Lycoming - 4:30 - will cost you $4
http://athletics.lycoming.edu/sports/2015/8/17/Boxcast_80d1a1.aspx
Oberlin @ Grove City - 4:30
https://livestream.com/accounts/13431056/events/7671124
The Lycoming SD stream is free. Unreal. why do this?
Also, the HD stream is not even HD. I paid for one game last year and it was the same quality as the SD stream. It's a disgrace they're charging at all. As far as I know, they're the only school that does this.
Quote from: paclassic89 on September 13, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
Also, the HD stream is not even HD. I paid for one game last year and it was the same quality as the SD stream. It's a disgrace they're charging at all. As far as I know, they're the only school that does this.
I agree with you that it should just be free for HD but they aren't the only school that has a set-up like this. I can't name any specific schools off the top of my head, but there were multiple games I watched last year online that did a 90 second HD preview and an option to purchase that view before switching over to the less quality SD stream for the remainder of the game.
same here
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on September 13, 2017, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: paclassic89 on September 13, 2017, 01:20:43 PM
Also, the HD stream is not even HD. I paid for one game last year and it was the same quality as the SD stream. It's a disgrace they're charging at all. As far as I know, they're the only school that does this.
I agree with you that it should just be free for HD but they aren't the only school that has a set-up like this. I can't name any specific schools off the top of my head, but there were multiple games I watched last year online that did a 90 second HD preview and an option to purchase that view before switching over to the less quality SD stream for the remainder of the game.
I find the schools that use boxcast do charge. JCU and Mt. Union charge - Mt. Union more a function of "that" football program. Actually called the AD after paying the $5 for a Mt Union game link still didn't work - he told me how protective the football program is of allowing their games to be viewed - and that their restrictive policy impacts all other sports. Thomas More charges for HD - but the SD isn't bad. Medaille charged for this weekend's game vs JCU.
Dickinson at Messiah. 15 minutes left in 1st half. Falcons up 1-0.
http://www.gomessiah.tv/
Rowan vs Messiah - 9-15 link:
http://www.rowan.edu/it/live/sports/feed1.html
Whats with the Oswego SLU streaming???
Great time to go offline!
I know they have the capability, as I watched portions of their game with Hamilton last week. The radio stream did not seem to work for me either.
Audio is working now.
Still no video.
Haverford and Johns Hopkins, with JHU up 2-0 in the second half:
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/centennial/stats.htm?eventId=363376&streamType=video
St. Lawrence at Cortland State, with Cortland up 3-1 late in the second half:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGaK2Gd0Fxs
Second OT of OWU at John Carroll just getting underway at:
https://boxcast.tv/view/jcu-mens-soccer-vs-ohio-wesleyan-427185
Quote from: sokermom on September 11, 2017, 09:48:32 PM
Does anyone know how to save a livestream video? my google search giving me some options but they all got bad reviews. if there is a commercial software i don't mind investing.
You can usually buy the games from the streaming service.
However, you can also record them with a screen-video-capture resource.
There may be better ones, but teachers often do this type of thing for elearning and we usually use something like Jing or ScreenR or electa, or SmartRecorder or Screencastify or something like that.
Haverford -Scranton
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/scranton/portal.htm?eventId=380034&streamType=video
North Park vs. Aurora
http://athletics.northpark.edu/sports/2017/9/19/north-park-vs-aurora-university-mens-soccer-9-20-17.aspx
i can say with certainty that programs really stepped it up in the last few years with making these games live. not only is the video quality great but some schools even have some pretty decent commentators. kudos to them
Quote from: firstplaceloser on September 20, 2017, 09:55:27 PM
i can say with certainty that programs really stepped it up in the last few years with making these games live. not only is the video quality great but some schools even have some pretty decent commentators. kudos to them
Absolutely right. I was watching some of the Middlebury @ Keene State stream yesterday and while there was no audio, I was pleasantly surprised with the camera work. Keene even has 2 different cameras so as the ball moves up the field the perspective switches from one camera to another - very impressive.
Red Dragon Derby (Cortland Red Dragons v Oneonta Red Dragons) kicking off now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4uDKWRQ8TE
10 min Oneonta running all over Cortland, counter off 65 yard clear, corner,throw- cross-goal 1-0 Cort.....funny game we watch...
Cortland is all over oneonta now. up 4-2 with about 5 min to go
Yup they absolutely took over 2nd half, was 2-1 Oneonta and they put up three in a row.
Tufts and Brandeis 0-0 at half. Brandeis has had a couple good opportunities. Goalie had nice save on one. IMO Brandeis had the better possession and play. Tufts seems to just look for counter attack. Don't think they strung together more than 3 passes all half. Second half may be different but right now Tufts is fortunate to be even
Quote from: rudy on September 22, 2017, 07:56:00 PM
Tufts and Brandeis 0-0 at half. Brandeis has had a couple good opportunities. Goalie had nice save on one. IMO Brandeis had the better possession and play. Tufts seems to just look for counter attack. Don't think they strung together more than 3 passes all half. Second half may be different but right now Tufts is fortunate to be even
Tufts finds a way to score 1 and that was enough. Still unscored on this season
Is anyone able to stream the game at Amherst? I had no luck yesterday and none today either.
The second half of Thomas v Bowdoin is coming up at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsC3f5-cZtY
There are no commentators, but we have the dual color commentary of Mr. Right and Blooter going on the NESCAC thread. :)
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 02, 2017, 08:07:05 PM
The second half of Thomas v Bowdoin is coming up at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsC3f5-cZtY
There are no commentators, but we have the dual color commentary of Mr. Right and Blooter going on the NESCAC thread. :)
Appreciate the plug, Ommadawn! ;)
Initial Thomas-Bowdoin stream went down, new one is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNRlNGvR6G4
https://boxcast.tv/view/mens-soccer-vs-john-carroll-856649
Great lakes folks. Arguably the biggest inter-regional game left on the schedule. Probably the last two ranked Great Lakes teams that will play each other the rest of the year.
#4 JCU at #20 Heidelberg kicks off at 4 PM.
There's a good game going on between Oneonta and Plattsburgh. It's tied 1-1 early in the second half:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/7669775
Kenyon at Wooster feed will be here:
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wooster/
Geneva @ Grove City started at noon:
https://livestream.com/accounts/13431056/events/7671124
10-1-0 North Park headed to overtime with Carthage at:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/carthage-athletics
Not sure that this is the right place to post this, but was watching Elmira-Scranton today and it was a good HD feed but they Elmira coach was laying into a kid after Elmira gave up a goal. Not inspiring leadership from the coach. Interesting that nowadays their actions can be broadcast out on the net for all to hear and watch.
https://boxcast.tv/view/msoc-vs-john-carroll-197028
JCU @ Otterbein link
Quote from: NEPAFAN on October 17, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
Not sure that this is the right place to post this, but was watching Elmira-Scranton today and it was a good HD feed but they Elmira coach was laying into a kid after Elmira gave up a goal. Not inspiring leadership from the coach. Interesting that nowadays their actions can be broadcast out on the net for all to hear and watch.
Damn..that is the kind of entertainment I tune into see....Laying into him like f bombs all over the place or laying into him like you will be riding the pine the rest of the season?
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 17, 2017, 06:38:18 PM
Quote from: NEPAFAN on October 17, 2017, 05:27:39 PM
Not sure that this is the right place to post this, but was watching Elmira-Scranton today and it was a good HD feed but they Elmira coach was laying into a kid after Elmira gave up a goal. Not inspiring leadership from the coach. Interesting that nowadays their actions can be broadcast out on the net for all to hear and watch.
Damn..that is the kind of entertainment I tune into see....Laying into him like f bombs all over the place or laying into him like you will be riding the pine the rest of the season?
Rough paraphrasing but " Johnny ( not real name) get off the field. GET OFF! We out play them all half and you can't get back on a man! Grumble Grumble. Also heard a Jesus Christ in there. Made me sit up and take notice obviously.
Kenyon v Ohio Wesleyan 10 minutes in 0-0 at:
https://www.owu.edu/about/follow-owu/stream-owu/athletics/october-17-2017-mens-soccer-vs-kenyon/
Chicago v. North Park.
You'll still be able to catch the second half. half score, 0-0.
https://uchicago.prestosports.com/sports/msoc/live-video
Ya just tuned in for 2nd half
North Park at Case just underway at:
http://athletics.case.edu/sports/msoc/live
North Park carried play for the bulk of the half, but trail 1-0 on a set piece goal for Case with 7 ticks left on the clock.
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 22, 2017, 01:48:41 PM
North Park carried play for the bulk of the half, but trail 1-0 on a set piece goal for Case with 7 ticks left on the clock.
After falling behind 2-1, Case is now back level at 2-2. This is becoming a barnburner.
NPU wins on an own goal in the 85th minute by CWRU. The final score was 3-2.
I was only able to watch the second half, but in that half at least NPU had the run of play for the most part, and the Vikings ended the match with a pretty sizeable statistical dominance. But the defense was a little too soft at times for the Vikings, and the Spartans had some well-organized runs, one of which led to a goal when they crowded the box on the left side and punched in the tying score in the 63rd minute. But the Vikings did a good job of keeping up the pressure, which eventually led to the late own goal.
Not the best-played match North Park has recorded thus far by any stretch of the imagination, but it's nevertheless a good quality win for NPU on the road. Now the Vikings will come back home and attempt to clinch the CCIW crown and home-pitch advantage for the conference tourney on Wednesday night when they host second-place North Central.
Calvin just started game. Great quality video.
Not a game, but still relevant:
1:00 ET Women's Selection Show (http://d3soccer.com/links/tk334i)
1:30 ET Men's Selection Show (http://d3soccer.com/links/xekpx1)
Edit: Now I am seeing that I can't find it, either. It might show up once the stream starts (usually before the show itself starts).
Anybody getting anything for the women?
That's because the selection shows will not be "streamed" as they have been in the past. They are now "released" as VOD items. Don't get me started on how frustrated and disappointed I am with this. I have already voiced my displeasure with several at the NCAA.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on November 06, 2017, 01:01:56 PM
That's because the selection shows will not be "streamed" as they have been in the past. They are now "released" as VOD items. Don't get me started on how frustrated and disappointed I am with this. I have already voiced my displeasure with several at the NCAA.
Interesting! FWIW, visible on the home page currently is the women's selection show.
Men's show appears to be up.
For anyone bored at work:
...1pm NCAA D1 1st Round UMASS v Colgate.......Free stream..
http://umassathletics.com/news/2017/11/14/mens-soccer-minutemen-to-take-on-colgate-in-first-round-of-ncaa-tournament-on-thursday.aspx
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 16, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
For anyone bored at work:
...1pm NCAA D1 1st Round UMASS v Colgate.......Free stream..
http://umassathletics.com/news/2017/11/14/mens-soccer-minutemen-to-take-on-colgate-in-first-round-of-ncaa-tournament-on-thursday.aspx
Congrats to the Minutemen on reaching the NCAA tourney, their first appearance since 2008, when my former college teammate (now deceased), Sam Koch, was at the helm. Glad to see that the program has regained relevance after a few tough years!
That 2008 run came out of NOWHERE..it was truly an amazing story to see UMASS in the NCAA Final 4
More 1st Round D1 games if interested...Really good streams on both:
UNH v Fairfield
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/unh/portal.htm?eventId=406856&streamType=video
Columbia at W&M--------------I believe this is the 1st time Columbia has made the NCAA's in over 30 years as in the 70's and 80's they were a serious force until the program hit rock bottom.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wandm/portal.htm?eventId=406438&streamType=video
Quote from: 1970s NESCAC Player on November 16, 2017, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 16, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
For anyone bored at work:
...1pm NCAA D1 1st Round UMASS v Colgate.......Free stream..
http://umassathletics.com/news/2017/11/14/mens-soccer-minutemen-to-take-on-colgate-in-first-round-of-ncaa-tournament-on-thursday.aspx
Congrats to the Minutemen on reaching the NCAA tourney, their first appearance since 2008, when my former college teammate (now deceased), Sam Koch, was at the helm. Glad to see that the program has regained relevance after a few tough years!
Thank you for the link. I was able to catch a bit of the game at work. I'm happy for the senior class, who endured some difficult (that's an understatement!) years on the way to this season's run.
Agreed bit with only 3 Scholarships to work with it is just amazing that UMASS has done what it has done this season. That being said it was a very wet day but the level of play was not much better than what we see in D3 week in and week out. Maybe a couple better athletes but not much difference
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 16, 2017, 07:16:21 PM
More 1st Round D1 games if interested...Really good streams on both:
UNH v Fairfield
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/unh/portal.htm?eventId=406856&streamType=video
Columbia at W&M--------------I believe this is the 1st time Columbia has made the NCAA's in over 30 years as in the 70's and 80's they were a serious force until the program hit rock bottom.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/wandm/portal.htm?eventId=406438&streamType=video
I knew I could tie all this back to D3...Bowdoin's Levi Morant's brother gets the game tying goal for Columbia to tie the game up with W&M. Columbia was pushing hard all Half to tie the game up and Morant's brother got one(you guessed it he scored off a free header on a corner)..1-1 heading to OT..Columbia looks a quality side.
http://www.jumbocast.com/
Let's see how the wifi holds up today. Yesterday was ANNOYING.
Just a random D1 Note...If you have 5 minutes watch the highlights of Fordham beating Duke in PK"S last night to advance to the Elite 8.
For a school like Fordham to beat ACC schools and advance to the Elite 8 with all the disadvantages they have recruiting is utterly amazing. They have maybe 5 foreigners but the rest are homegrown. Their starting GK was a stud at Kent School. I cannot imagine how many scholarships Fordham gets but it cannot be many. A truly great story..3 of the last Quarter-Finals are on today at 5pm...
http://fordhamsports.com/news/2017/11/25/mens-soccer-advances-to-elite-8-on-pk-shootout-win.aspx
Thanks for the scoop! I know a couple of Fordham players (both internationals) who graduated last year, so I'm happy that their former teammates were able to advance. Nuhu's unconventional approach to taking a PK was interesting to see. I did note, though, that Fordham violated Mr. Right's Rules of Order by having the backup GK take what turned out to be the game-winning PK ;)
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 26, 2017, 03:25:29 PM
Just a random D1 Note...If you have 5 minutes watch the highlights of Fordham beating Duke in PK"S last night to advance to the Elite 8.
For a school like Fordham to beat ACC schools and advance to the Elite 8 with all the disadvantages they have recruiting is utterly amazing. They have maybe 5 foreigners but the rest are homegrown. Their starting GK was a stud at Kent School. I cannot imagine how many scholarships Fordham gets but it cannot be many. A truly great story..3 of the last Quarter-Finals are on today at 5pm...
http://fordhamsports.com/news/2017/11/25/mens-soccer-advances-to-elite-8-on-pk-shootout-win.aspx
I remember Nuhu from his boarding school days but lost track of where he went to college. Even in high-school he combined superb athleticism with excellent technique. A superb talent to say the least.
Thanks for the update!
Although compliments aside, I just watched the highlights of the game and I can't say I was inspired by the goalkeeping on any of the four goals
Quote from: Ommadawn on November 26, 2017, 04:18:36 PM
Thanks for the scoop! I know a couple of Fordham players (both internationals) who graduated last year, so I'm happy that their former teammates were able to advance. Nuhu's unconventional approach to taking a PK was interesting to see. I did note, though, that Fordham violated Mr. Right's Rules of Order by having the backup GK take what turned out to be the game-winning PK ;)
LOL I know but it was like the ninth kicker so at some point you run out of options...lol but yea that was interesting for sure..hit a banger though..I think both GK's kicked haha..another thing I am not crazy about..
Actually... As a goalie I can tell you, we spend a TON of our down time taking PKs. It might seem unconventional, but most of us learn to perfect a shot that hits the side netting with pace.
I'm sure a lot of folks know this, but the Duke GK is Christian Pulisic's cousin and has spent time on Borussia Dortmund's U19 team.
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Actually... As a goalie I can tell you, we spend a TON of our down time taking PKs. It might seem unconventional, but most of us learn to perfect a shot that hits the side netting with pace.
I actually reffed ann EDP Final game this weekend and the game went to kicks fron the mark and it came down to the goalies and the one missed bc it looked like he never took a PK before.
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 27, 2017, 09:36:53 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Actually... As a goalie I can tell you, we spend a TON of our down time taking PKs. It might seem unconventional, but most of us learn to perfect a shot that hits the side netting with pace.
I actually reffed ann EDP Final game this weekend and the game went to kicks fron the mark and it came down to the goalies and the one missed bc it looked like he never took a PK before.
Maybe it's an old school thing? I'm just saying it's not that surprising (to me) to see keepers step up and knock them home. Now that I think about it, I very rarely had a goalie-specific coach... we were mostly self-directed until it was time to "go to goal."
I think that has shifted over the years. Heck, I know my high school has a goalie specific coach now. Back when I played there, it was just a varsity and JV coach, no assistants. And we were in a hotbed county.
GK's definitely practice hitting PK's more than field players. I will grant you that just because of where they are located during practice..Usually next to a goal..Also, you are correct GK's usually strike a ball just as well if not better than field players for the most part. To me it is purely psychological for the GK. Obviously, I am not throwing all GK's in this basket but as a coach "I" just do not like the look and feel of my GK hitting a PK in a pressure situation. They have enough on their mind during the PK's.
Biggest reason goalies practice and end up being pretty good at PKs is because there doesn't tend to be segments of practice broken up for players to shoot so keepers can practice. It ends up being part of the warm-ups or separate goalie practice. I shot PKs on our starter (and visa versa) nearly every day. I actually was horrible at kicking a stationary ball well (if it was moving, I had a pretty incredible shot to be honest). However, I developed a technique for PK shooting that was pretty good. I had to. There was no choice. Only way our starter, my friend, was going to be properly prepared was if I worked on that shot specifically.
While coaches may not go to their keepers often for a lot of reasons as described, I am in no way surprised a keeper could bury a PK.
Today, November 30 on NCAA.com, we have the Division II national semifinals from Swope Park in Kansas City, Missouri.
Women's semifinals start at Noon Eastern--
1.) Univ of Colorado-Colorado Springs vs Carson Newman
2.) Mercy vs Central Missouri
Men's semifinals start at 6 PM Eastern
1.) Lynn vs Rockhurst
2.) Cal Poly-Pomona vs Charleston(WV)
Winners rest on Friday and play for the DII national championship titles on Saturday.
I was able to install the Google play store on my Amazon Fire tablet yesterday to get the NCAA Sports app, so I will test the ability to watch the NCAA live video streams today in preparation for the DIII soccer semifinals tomorrow.
The NCAA D2 soccer semifinals are underway, and Carson-Newman women are up, 1-0, over UC Colorado Springs at Swope Soccer Village in Kansas City. The video is streaming well on NCAA.com and on the NCAA Sports App.
wow at least D2 understand that players need that days rest in between games. you shouldn't have to work your entire season to be thanked with a national championship game the day after the semi finals...
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 30, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
wow at least D2 understand that players need that days rest in between games. you shouldn't have to work your entire season to be thanked with a national championship game the day after the semi finals...
On the one hand, I guess both teams have the same number of days of rest, although the one that plays in the first semi clearly has more. That said, I agree with you -- would be nice to have a day between.
Carson-Newman(TN) women win, 2-1, over UC Colorado Springs and advance to Saturday's d2 women's soccer title game.
Great to have Lincoln Rose on the play by play today for NCAA.com. He has been a friend of d3 in the past.
Next women's semifinal between Mercy (NY) and Central Missouri starts at 2 PM Central/3 PM Eastern on NCAA.com
Quote from: blooter442 on November 30, 2017, 02:04:11 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 30, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
wow at least D2 understand that players need that days rest in between games. you shouldn't have to work your entire season to be thanked with a national championship game the day after the semi finals...
On the one hand, I guess both teams have the same number of days of rest, although the one that plays in the first semi clearly has more. That said, I agree with you -- would be nice to have a day between.
The D3 soccer committees supported adding a day of rest at their February, 2017 meeting, but in June, 2017, the Championships Committee did not approve that request. The Championships Committee raised various issues as to why they were not ready yet to implement a day of rest in d3 for the national semifinals and championship game for soccer, which are listed on page 7 of the June, 2017 report of the D3 Championships Committee on NCAA.org. Among those reasons were they felt that it would be more fair if all d3 team sports get the benefit of a day of rest across the board, and they wanted to find out financial budgetary impacts of that change.
Central Missouri Jennies are in control at the half, 2-0, over Mercy in the second d2 women's soccer national semifinal from Swope Soccer Village in Kansas City. The second half coming up on NCAA.com
Interesting trivia note: While both Colby and Muhlenberg call their men's and women's teams the Mules, Central Missouri only applies the Mules nickname to their men's teams. Their women's teams are the Jennies.
Update as of 4:54 PM Eastern-- Central Missouri won, 3-0, and will face Carson-Newman in the d2 women's soccer championship game on Saturday.
Men's d2 semifinals on NCAA.com starting at 6 PM Eastern--
1.) Lynn vs Rockhurst
2.) Cal Poly Pomona vs Charleston (WV)
that PK shootout was terrible by Rockhurst
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 30, 2017, 08:42:37 PM
that PK shootout was terrible by Rockhurst
I just saw the semifinal recap on NCAA.com, and I have to agree with you on that one. An own goal by Cal Poly Pomona decided the other game, as Charleston (WV) advances to face Lynn in the d2 men's title game on Saturday.
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 30, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
wow at least D2 understand that players need that days rest in between games. you shouldn't have to work your entire season to be thanked with a national championship game the day after the semi finals...
DII has plenty of money to burn to pay for the extra hotels, busses, food, etc. They have a healthy budget compared to DIII.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 01, 2017, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 30, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
wow at least D2 understand that players need that days rest in between games. you shouldn't have to work your entire season to be thanked with a national championship game the day after the semi finals...
DII has plenty of money to burn to pay for the extra hotels, busses, food, etc. They have a healthy budget compared to DIII.
the players have the hotel until sunday anyway. what are they paying extra for..?
No. Teams who lose are traditionally sent home the next day (or that night in some sports/cases). If teams stay, the schools have to foot the bill - ala I wonder if Chicago men will stay to support the women.
Also, if they do stay to Sunday... they can't always go home Sunday night. Furthermore, if you had a Hope, Calvin, Wheaton, etc. here, the games would then be pushed to Monday and that is even more money.
Back to my original point: DII gets 5.0% of the NCAA overall operating budget and they have 1/3 or so the numbers DIII has... whose operating budget is 3.1%. Those are the cards dealt. They aren't going to change. DIII has looked into changing aspects of all their tournaments like adding a day in between - it has been talked about often. The costs have not been favorable to make such a change especially after having just come out of a major budget tightening few years.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
No. Teams who lose are traditionally sent home the next day (or that night in some sports/cases). If teams stay, the schools have to foot the bill - ala I wonder if Chicago men will stay to support the women.
Also, if they do stay to Sunday... they can't always go home Sunday night. Furthermore, if you had a Hope, Calvin, Wheaton, etc. here, the games would then be pushed to Monday and that is even more money.
Back to my original point: DII gets 5.0% of the NCAA overall operating budget and they have 1/3 or so the numbers DIII has... whose operating budget is 3.1%. Those are the cards dealt. They aren't going to change. DIII has looked into changing aspects of all their tournaments like adding a day in between - it has been talked about often. The costs have not been favorable to make such a change especially after having just come out of a major budget tightening few years.
you aren't really proving anything here... yeah losing team goes home when they lose what does that have to do with the winning teams playing on sunday.. in 2013 we played friday night and saturday night. we still had the hotel on sunday and if the game was at 12pm they would be able to leave later that night. I experienced it first hand. it's not fair to the players.
Quote from: firstplaceloser on December 02, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
No. Teams who lose are traditionally sent home the next day (or that night in some sports/cases). If teams stay, the schools have to foot the bill - ala I wonder if Chicago men will stay to support the women.
Also, if they do stay to Sunday... they can't always go home Sunday night. Furthermore, if you had a Hope, Calvin, Wheaton, etc. here, the games would then be pushed to Monday and that is even more money.
Back to my original point: DII gets 5.0% of the NCAA overall operating budget and they have 1/3 or so the numbers DIII has... whose operating budget is 3.1%. Those are the cards dealt. They aren't going to change. DIII has looked into changing aspects of all their tournaments like adding a day in between - it has been talked about often. The costs have not been favorable to make such a change especially after having just come out of a major budget tightening few years.
you aren't really proving anything here... yeah losing team goes home when they lose what does that have to do with the winning teams playing on sunday.. in 2013 we played friday night and saturday night. we still had the hotel on sunday and if the game was at 12pm they would be able to leave later that night. I experienced it first hand. it's not fair to the players.
I agree and not only that I am surprised that D2 gets 5% of the overall NCAA budget and D3 only get 3.1% as D2 has WAY less teams and IMO is slowly dying out as more and more programs are leaving D2 and even NAIA to go D3..
Quote from: firstplaceloser on December 02, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
No. Teams who lose are traditionally sent home the next day (or that night in some sports/cases). If teams stay, the schools have to foot the bill - ala I wonder if Chicago men will stay to support the women.
Also, if they do stay to Sunday... they can't always go home Sunday night. Furthermore, if you had a Hope, Calvin, Wheaton, etc. here, the games would then be pushed to Monday and that is even more money.
Back to my original point: DII gets 5.0% of the NCAA overall operating budget and they have 1/3 or so the numbers DIII has... whose operating budget is 3.1%. Those are the cards dealt. They aren't going to change. DIII has looked into changing aspects of all their tournaments like adding a day in between - it has been talked about often. The costs have not been favorable to make such a change especially after having just come out of a major budget tightening few years.
you aren't really proving anything here... yeah losing team goes home when they lose what does that have to do with the winning teams playing on sunday.. in 2013 we played friday night and saturday night. we still had the hotel on sunday and if the game was at 12pm they would be able to leave later that night. I experienced it first hand. it's not fair to the players.
So who knows what you want for "proof" ... but this is the rules by which Division III has chose to govern themselves. You are trying to compare to another division who governs itself under a different set of numbers budget wise and it's own rules as well. Apples and oranges on many levels.
My point about the losing team going home is that they aren't even in town when the championship game is played. The winning teams only stay one more night. You are asking for the championship teams to possibly stay two more nights. Sure, they could play a noon game, however is that fair either? To play an early game when maybe no one can watch? (I.E. football has chosen to play on Friday nights under the lights to have a better TV crowd than to play on Saturday at noon when less people will see the game.)
As for Sunday, you are ignoring the biggest issue... a lot of good soccer problems have rules about not playing on Sundays. Messiah is about the only Christian-based school I know that has chosen to allow for games to be played on Sunday. Hope, Calvin, Wheaton (both), etc. will do allow it. So... in your scenario, they are playing the games Friday and Sunday... paying for hotel rooms for at least Wednesday-Sunday... and one of the three (four) schools listed get to the title game... and can't play until Monday. That is now another night of rooms and missed class time especially at a time of year where final classes for the semester or finals in general are taking place.
Everything I have just mentioned is what presidents will tell you are reasons they will not allow for a day in between for a day off. Financial, missed class time, chance of a delay, etc.
Many say it is unfair to the student-athlete... I was once a college soccer player myself. I understand the challenges, but it happens in most sports in the NCAA for a lot of very good reasons. They even included rules to keep games from being played too soon after one another (thus why Messiah didn't go Saturday/Sunday a few weeks ago with their schedule).
It has been discussed a number of times, it has been researched and debated... it isn't going to be changed.
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 02, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
I agree and not only that I am surprised that D2 gets 5% of the overall NCAA budget and D3 only get 3.1% as D2 has WAY less teams and IMO is slowly dying out as more and more programs are leaving D2 and even NAIA to go D3..
DII isn't dying as much as people think. Yes, there has been a decline in numbers, but that has plateaued. Also, most of where schools are coming from to DIII is NAIA and otherwise. DII isn't as popular a destinations as it used to be for DIIIs, but it does happen occasionally as well.
And despite numbers going up or down, changing the budget distribution would take an entire NCAA vote - all three divisions. Those numbers are how it was set-up when the three divisions were formed. DI would have to be willing to give up more of it's money and DII willing to lose money or allow DIII to get a bigger piece of the pie. Lot of politics involved in that and highly doubtful it will ever happen. DIII nearly two years ago approved a measure to increase dues. Technically, they should have gotten 3.1% of that increase. However, the NCAA approved that DIII keep all of the increase. That was the solution to try and add more money to the DIII budget because it was well known asking the NCAA to bump up the percentage was basically a non-starter.
Stock-holm. not Stuck-holm :)
To much chit-chat nonsense between these 2 announcers....Focus on the game boys....You have done well all weekend
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 02, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
To much chit-chat nonsense between these 2 announcers....Focus on the game boys....You have done well all weekend
Thanks for the feedback...sometimes when there's a lull in the action you try to be a little more light-hearted in the conversations...especially when the two announcers (in this case Dave and I) are friends in real life.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2017, 05:51:02 PM
Quote from: firstplaceloser on December 02, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 02, 2017, 11:22:01 AM
No. Teams who lose are traditionally sent home the next day (or that night in some sports/cases). If teams stay, the schools have to foot the bill - ala I wonder if Chicago men will stay to support the women.
Also, if they do stay to Sunday... they can't always go home Sunday night. Furthermore, if you had a Hope, Calvin, Wheaton, etc. here, the games would then be pushed to Monday and that is even more money.
Back to my original point: DII gets 5.0% of the NCAA overall operating budget and they have 1/3 or so the numbers DIII has... whose operating budget is 3.1%. Those are the cards dealt. They aren't going to change. DIII has looked into changing aspects of all their tournaments like adding a day in between - it has been talked about often. The costs have not been favorable to make such a change especially after having just come out of a major budget tightening few years.
you aren't really proving anything here... yeah losing team goes home when they lose what does that have to do with the winning teams playing on sunday.. in 2013 we played friday night and saturday night. we still had the hotel on sunday and if the game was at 12pm they would be able to leave later that night. I experienced it first hand. it's not fair to the players.
So who knows what you want for "proof" ... but this is the rules by which Division III has chose to govern themselves. You are trying to compare to another division who governs itself under a different set of numbers budget wise and it's own rules as well. Apples and oranges on many levels.
My point about the losing team going home is that they aren't even in town when the championship game is played. The winning teams only stay one more night. You are asking for the championship teams to possibly stay two more nights. Sure, they could play a noon game, however is that fair either? To play an early game when maybe no one can watch? (I.E. football has chosen to play on Friday nights under the lights to have a better TV crowd than to play on Saturday at noon when less people will see the game.)
As for Sunday, you are ignoring the biggest issue... a lot of good soccer problems have rules about not playing on Sundays. Messiah is about the only Christian-based school I know that has chosen to allow for games to be played on Sunday. Hope, Calvin, Wheaton (both), etc. will do allow it. So... in your scenario, they are playing the games Friday and Sunday... paying for hotel rooms for at least Wednesday-Sunday... and one of the three (four) schools listed get to the title game... and can't play until Monday. That is now another night of rooms and missed class time especially at a time of year where final classes for the semester or finals in general are taking place.
Everything I have just mentioned is what presidents will tell you are reasons they will not allow for a day in between for a day off. Financial, missed class time, chance of a delay, etc.
Many say it is unfair to the student-athlete... I was once a college soccer player myself. I understand the challenges, but it happens in most sports in the NCAA for a lot of very good reasons. They even included rules to keep games from being played too soon after one another (thus why Messiah didn't go Saturday/Sunday a few weeks ago with their schedule).
It has been discussed a number of times, it has been researched and debated... it isn't going to be changed.
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 02, 2017, 01:56:55 PM
I agree and not only that I am surprised that D2 gets 5% of the overall NCAA budget and D3 only get 3.1% as D2 has WAY less teams and IMO is slowly dying out as more and more programs are leaving D2 and even NAIA to go D3..
DII isn't dying as much as people think. Yes, there has been a decline in numbers, but that has plateaued. Also, most of where schools are coming from to DIII is NAIA and otherwise. DII isn't as popular a destinations as it used to be for DIIIs, but it does happen occasionally as well.
And despite numbers going up or down, changing the budget distribution would take an entire NCAA vote - all three divisions. Those numbers are how it was set-up when the three divisions were formed. DI would have to be willing to give up more of it's money and DII willing to lose money or allow DIII to get a bigger piece of the pie. Lot of politics involved in that and highly doubtful it will ever happen. DIII nearly two years ago approved a measure to increase dues. Technically, they should have gotten 3.1% of that increase. However, the NCAA approved that DIII keep all of the increase. That was the solution to try and add more money to the DIII budget because it was well known asking the NCAA to bump up the percentage was basically a non-starter.
For better or worse, DIII Benedictine seems as if they will indeed move to D2 in the 2018-19 season...everything I hear has them filing the papers this Winter. As my son plays there, it will put us in the mode of trying to understand the pluses and minues...perhaps exploring other options. Oh well...we'll see.
Quote from: LM3 on December 04, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
For better or worse, DIII Benedictine seems as if they will indeed move to D2 in the 2018-19 season...everything I hear has them filing the papers this Winter. As my son plays there, it will put us in the mode of trying to understand the pluses and minues...perhaps exploring other options. Oh well...we'll see.
Don't get too far ahead just yet... not positive this is going to happen. From what I am told, the Board of Trustees has not decided if they want to make the move. If they approve the idea, then there is paperwork to fill out and a decision by NCAA/DII on whether to accept them.
I know Benedictine has been looking, but there are no indications as of yet the move is going to happen - even seem to happen.
FYI - one has to have the paperwork complete by a deadline in early January for there to be any chance. So, the timing is there, but I am not sure this is a done deal right now. One vote goes the other direction and it stops cold.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: LM3 on December 04, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
For better or worse, DIII Benedictine seems as if they will indeed move to D2 in the 2018-19 season...everything I hear has them filing the papers this Winter. As my son plays there, it will put us in the mode of trying to understand the pluses and minues...perhaps exploring other options. Oh well...we'll see.
I know Benedictine has been looking, but there are no indications as of yet the move is going to happen - even seem to happen.
Would be interesting to know why they're thinking of the switch- so they grant athletic scholarships? so they have a better chance (from a % basis) of making NCAA tournaments? so they can have more fulsome off-season training? so that the athletic competition better aligns with their applicant pool? so they can join the conference which best aligns with them geographically or from an overall academic perspective?
FYI - one has to have the paperwork complete by a deadline in early January for there to be any chance. So, the timing is there, but I am not sure this is a done deal right now. One vote goes the other direction and it stops cold.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
Quote from: LM3 on December 04, 2017, 12:56:43 PM
For better or worse, DIII Benedictine seems as if they will indeed move to D2 in the 2018-19 season...everything I hear has them filing the papers this Winter. As my son plays there, it will put us in the mode of trying to understand the pluses and minues...perhaps exploring other options. Oh well...we'll see.
Don't get too far ahead just yet... not positive this is going to happen. From what I am told, the Board of Trustees has not decided if they want to make the move. If they approve the idea, then there is paperwork to fill out and a decision by NCAA/DII on whether to accept them.
I know Benedictine has been looking, but there are no indications as of yet the move is going to happen - even seem to happen.
FYI - one has to have the paperwork complete by a deadline in early January for there to be any chance. So, the timing is there, but I am not sure this is a done deal right now. One vote goes the other direction and it stops cold.
I am not really rooting for it, but it is now an open discussion in the Athletic Department and through the various teams. All indications is that paperwork will be filed, but what happens after that is unknown. That said, I claim no insider info, and I respect your caution.
Quote from: Dog Face on December 04, 2017, 02:21:33 PM
Would be interesting to know why they're thinking of the switch- so they grant athletic scholarships? so they have a better chance (from a % basis) of making NCAA tournaments? so they can have more fulsome off-season training? so that the athletic competition better aligns with their applicant pool? so they can join the conference which best aligns with them geographically or from an overall academic perspective?
One item I was told was that the president (and many are like this) wants the prestige of moving to another division. They see the grass and think its greener and thus also think that there will be fanfare and much celebration. Put that on their resume and they feel they suddenly become more sought after.
Another one that I heard somewhere was that some alum (maybe alums) were willing to pony up the money to help and make it happen.
The other item is that one of the conferences in the area has been courting them because that conference would love to have a tent pole in the Chicagoland area.
As for making the NCAA tournaments, sure they would have a better chance - the percentage of schools to bids in DII is astronomical compared to DIII, but the costs can make that not worth it. There are facility requirements, scholarship money additions, and much more that make this move far more than just a shift. Financially, this is a HUGE decision and not one that is taken lightly or is easy to make happen. Several DIIIs in recent years have tried to make the shift and have returned to DIII with their tail between their legs. Others have done it and then flat-out disappeared - no more NCAA tournament appearances, either.
As for their applicant pool and conference alignments, I think that is secondary if not on a third tier. They are in a conference in DIII they can compete and win in. They are in a situation where they have already proven they can succeed. This feels more ego and "fireworks" in nature. I don't personally see why moving to DII would make any sense. Many I have talked to in the department don't necessarily want to leave DIII. They feel the division is a better fit than DII.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on December 04, 2017, 03:21:32 PM
One item I was told was that the president (and many are like this) wants the prestige of moving to another division. They see the grass and think its greener and thus also think that there will be fanfare and much celebration. Put that on their resume and they feel they suddenly become more sought after.
I am not altogether convinced that moving from DIII to DII is necessarily a guaranteed step-up in prestige. I know you need to take each school's situation a case-by-case situation, but in some parts of the country and in some sports more than others, moving to DIII from DII elevates a school's prestige, both academically and athletically. In New England about 20 years ago, there was an exodus away from DII, with some schools (e.g., Bryant, Quinnipiac) moving to DI and some schools moving to DIII (e.g., Keene State, Springfield). In some sports, the schools moving to DIII had tougher, not easier, competition in DIII.
FYI----NCAA D1 NCAA Semi's on ESPNU tonight..Will have to listen to Twellman but 2 good games..
6pm- Akron v Stanford
830pm---UNC v Indiana
You have some National Team products on the field for all 4 teams especially Stanford and UNC. You do have Indiana Stud striker and Big Ten ROY Mason Toye who played at Seton Hall Prep with a couple D3 guys.
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 08, 2017, 04:15:05 PM
FYI----NCAA D1 NCAA Semi's on ESPNU tonight..Will have to listen to Twellman but 2 good games..
6pm- Akron v Stanford
830pm---UNC v Indiana
You have some National Team products on the field for all 4 teams especially Stanford and UNC. You do have Indiana Stud striker and Big Ten ROY Mason Toye who played at Seton Hall Prep with a couple D3 guys.
Thanks much for the heads up. Almost forgot this was tonight.
1-0 Stanford up on Akron after a horrendous defensive giveaway.Akron knocking the ball around the back and the CB got stripped and Stanford finished it off nicely...
2-0 Stanford..
In other news Bobby Clark hangs em up at age 73...Class act with a HUGE coaching tree across the country and all divisions. Congrats
http://www.und.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/112817aao.html
My bet is his son would want to maybe succeed him at Notre Dame. I am kind of hoping the Dartmouth Head Coach finds a better job as well because I would like to see that Dartmouth job open up. It opened up a couple years ago when Jeff Cook left to go to the Philadelphia Union to be a youth coach in their system. I do not think it was the greatest move on his part but that is another story. Chad Riley got the Dartmouth job when it opened up but Wesleyan Head Coach Geoff Wheeler was a finalist. A situation where he has been a couple times with D1 openings in the past. He missed out at Harvard, Yale and Dartmouth which is where he played for Bobby Clark. After 18 years, I am guessing Wheeler wants a new challenge. While Wesleyan is a good job there is only so far you can go as it is a different kind of school to recruit to in Nescac. You usually are getting scraps from the Top Nescac's. His most successful team was in 2009 when they WON Nescac and had a LEGIT team. They finished 12-2-5 and 6-0-3 in Nescac. They were an extremely tough out that year and got VERY unlucky as they lost in the NCAA Sweet 16 to UR at Messiah in 2 OT. IIRC Wesleyan speedster Asante Brooks had a chance to win it in regulation but missed a sitter. That Wesleyan team had one of the better GK's Nescac has seen the lat 15 years with Adam Purdy. They were also extremely difficult to break down defensively and had some threats in midfield and up top. That same pod at Messiah saw an unbelievable comeback by Messiah over Hopkins in the final minute or Messiah would have been eliminated. Had Wesleyan gotten by UR they would of had a fantastic chance against Messiah or Hopkins. Was not meant to be. Anyway, would love to see Wheeler get a chance at Dartmouth as he would be a finalist again IMO. Actually, I thought he had WAY MORE experience than Chad Riley who was pretty young with no Head Coaching experience but was a Bobby Clark guy. he did not get the job for whatever reason but I thought he should have. Wheeler has got to be north of 50 so he might not have another opportunity but he is a very solid coach and here's hoping he gets that chance.
It's hard to say Cooke leaving Dartmouth for the Union was a bad move. College coaching is a grind, and being able to step back and Coach Academy kids and not have to worry about recruiting, or budgets or anything else, and at the same time getting to coach incredibly high level teams?
There is ALOT of college coaches that would sign up for that.
Seems like Wheeler has been out of the D1 game for a long time, makes a direct jump there as a Head Coach even more difficult.
Quote from: luckylefty on December 14, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
It's hard to say Cooke leaving Dartmouth for the Union was a bad move. College coaching is a grind, and being able to step back and Coach Academy kids and not have to worry about recruiting, or budgets or anything else, and at the same time getting to coach incredibly high level teams?
There is ALOT of college coaches that would sign up for that.
Seems like Wheeler has been out of the D1 game for a long time, makes a direct jump there as a Head Coach even more difficult.
This is complete nonsense...Cook leaving Dartmouth was a HUGE mistake...He went to get his "Professional License" before leaving Dartmouth. Yes that is the same license Brandt got fired for not having at Pittsburgh. So Cook had the mindset of coaching professionally. His ego got in the way of his career. He leaves Dartmouth which is a very "safe" D1 job that unless you totally screw it up you would have for your career. He THINKS by going to coach in Philadelphia's youth system and with that license he would eventually coach in MLS. That was a tremendous mistake. Technical Director's usually have total control over the MLS teams youth system so if the Technical Director is fired or leaves it is quite possible that the new Technical Director would clean house and bring in his own guys. Cook is still in that same role so that has not happened yet BUT he took a pay cut for sure and for what? Coaching an MLS U-15 or U-14 Youth team? Give me a break...Are you really saying that is a more challenging role than coaching college age kids at Dartmouth? If it is than you have no clue what you are talking about.
Quote from: luckylefty on December 14, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
It's hard to say Cooke leaving Dartmouth for the Union was a bad move. College coaching is a grind, and being able to step back and Coach Academy kids and not have to worry about recruiting, or budgets or anything else, and at the same time getting to coach incredibly high level teams?
There is ALOT of college coaches that would sign up for that.
Seems like Wheeler has been out of the D1 game for a long time, makes a direct jump there as a Head Coach even more difficult.
I will take issue with the comment you made against Wheeler as well..Yes he has been out of the D1 game for a while and yes SOME not ALL AD's would look at that as possibly worrisome but to me those AD"S are clueless anyway. It should not determine whether a Coach can do the job or not. To me a Head Coach is a Head Coach whether it is in D1 or D3. 18 years of experience at Wesleyan would look way better to me than a young D1 assistant with no head coaching experience. Since he was a FINALIST at Harvard, Yale and Dartmouth in the past 10 years I would be willing to bet those AD"s agree with me. He would have never been a Finalist if they thought being out of the D1 game for to long mattered. What it is telling me is that either those 3 schools had better candidates OR Wheeler did not impress in those 2nd/3rd Round of interviews.
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 15, 2017, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: luckylefty on December 14, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
It's hard to say Cooke leaving Dartmouth for the Union was a bad move. College coaching is a grind, and being able to step back and Coach Academy kids and not have to worry about recruiting, or budgets or anything else, and at the same time getting to coach incredibly high level teams?
There is ALOT of college coaches that would sign up for that.
Seems like Wheeler has been out of the D1 game for a long time, makes a direct jump there as a Head Coach even more difficult.
This is complete nonsense...Cook leaving Dartmouth was a HUGE mistake...He went to get his "Professional License" before leaving Dartmouth. Yes that is the same license Brandt got fired for not having at Pittsburgh. So Cook had the mindset of coaching professionally. His ego got in the way of his career. He leaves Dartmouth which is a very "safe" D1 job that unless you totally screw it up you would have for your career. He THINKS by going to coach in Philadelphia's youth system and with that license he would eventually coach in MLS. That was a tremendous mistake. Technical Director's usually have total control over the MLS teams youth system so if the Technical Director is fired or leaves it is quite possible that the new Technical Director would clean house and bring in his own guys. Cook is still in that same role so that has not happened yet BUT he took a pay cut for sure and for what? Coaching an MLS U-15 or U-14 Youth team? Give me a break...Are you really saying that is a more challenging role than coaching college age kids at Dartmouth? If it is than you have no clue what you are talking about.
That wasnt even close to my point. My point was that being able to not have to travel as much, coach an incredibly high level academy team, and be able to forget about recruiting and everything else is a job many college coaches would be interested in. It's easy to say it was a HUGE MISTAKE, but you have zero idea where this guy was in his life and what he actually wanted. Maybe he just got tired of the college soccer recruiting grind and wanted to just coach soccer? Maybe he also got a huge pay bump. Who knows, but to say this was a mistake means you would have to know exactly what Cooke was looking for and what he thought about college soccer. Which obviously none of us do. He also coaches the Union U-18's not their u-14's or u-15's. He's had the opportunity to coach a ton of outrageously high level players over the past few years, and that will only continue. Some of them are better players then he would have ever had the chance to coach at Dartmouth (Derrick Jones for instance).
Being out of the D1 game for as long as Wheeler has matters for one reason. He hasn't had to manage scholarships in 20 years. You cannot overlook how complicated and difficult that is. You mismanage two scholarships and you set your program back for years. That obviously doesn't apply to the Ivy's you mentioned because they don't do athletic scholarships, but for other D1's that absolutely matters and its a real barrier. There is no doubt he could lead a program, manage a staff etc, he is already doing that. But can he manage athletic scholarships? You can be great in every single facet, but if you make mistakes with your athletic offers you will be boxed in. I'm not saying he couldn't be great, I'm just saying it will give AD's pause.
Quote from: luckylefty on December 15, 2017, 01:37:52 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 15, 2017, 01:05:25 PM
Quote from: luckylefty on December 14, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
It's hard to say Cooke leaving Dartmouth for the Union was a bad move. College coaching is a grind, and being able to step back and Coach Academy kids and not have to worry about recruiting, or budgets or anything else, and at the same time getting to coach incredibly high level teams?
There is ALOT of college coaches that would sign up for that.
Seems like Wheeler has been out of the D1 game for a long time, makes a direct jump there as a Head Coach even more difficult.
This is complete nonsense...Cook leaving Dartmouth was a HUGE mistake...He went to get his "Professional License" before leaving Dartmouth. Yes that is the same license Brandt got fired for not having at Pittsburgh. So Cook had the mindset of coaching professionally. His ego got in the way of his career. He leaves Dartmouth which is a very "safe" D1 job that unless you totally screw it up you would have for your career. He THINKS by going to coach in Philadelphia's youth system and with that license he would eventually coach in MLS. That was a tremendous mistake. Technical Director's usually have total control over the MLS teams youth system so if the Technical Director is fired or leaves it is quite possible that the new Technical Director would clean house and bring in his own guys. Cook is still in that same role so that has not happened yet BUT he took a pay cut for sure and for what? Coaching an MLS U-15 or U-14 Youth team? Give me a break...Are you really saying that is a more challenging role than coaching college age kids at Dartmouth? If it is than you have no clue what you are talking about.
That wasnt even close to my point. My point was that being able to not have to travel as much, coach an incredibly high level academy team, and be able to forget about recruiting and everything else is a job many college coaches would be interested in. It's easy to say it was a HUGE MISTAKE, but you have zero idea where this guy was in his life and what he actually wanted. Maybe he just got tired of the college soccer recruiting grind and wanted to just coach soccer? Maybe he also got a huge pay bump. Who knows, but to say this was a mistake means you would have to know exactly what Cooke was looking for and what he thought about college soccer. Which obviously none of us do. He also coaches the Union U-18's not their u-14's or u-15's. He's had the opportunity to coach a ton of outrageously high level players over the past few years, and that will only continue. Some of them are better players then he would have ever had the chance to coach at Dartmouth (Derrick Jones for instance).
Being out of the D1 game for as long as Wheeler has matters for one reason. He hasn't had to manage scholarships in 20 years. You cannot overlook how complicated and difficult that is. You mismanage two scholarships and you set your program back for years. That obviously doesn't apply to the Ivy's you mentioned because they don't do athletic scholarships, but for other D1's that absolutely matters and its a real barrier. There is no doubt he could lead a program, manage a staff etc, he is already doing that. But can he manage athletic scholarships? You can be great in every single facet, but if you make mistakes with your athletic offers you will be boxed in. I'm not saying he couldn't be great, I'm just saying it will give AD's pause.
The problem is you are basing your point on what Cook "was thinking"..How do you know that he was sick of recruiting and that he got a pay bump. I can promise you he did not get a pay bump. To say that a ton of college coaches would want to make this move is also not correct. If that was the case then you would see more college coaches doing it. They do not.
The scholarship situation is basically the same thing as D3 coaches dealing with "tips" in Nescac. You screw up you 3-4 tips for a year or 2 you can set your program back also. Same thing.
I didn't base a single thing on what Cooke was thinking. I said "It's tough to say Cooke leaving Darthmouth for the Union was a bad move", which I absolutely stand by. You have no idea what he was looking for, nor do I, but I would never come out and say something was a bad move when the guy has a stable job in one of the best academies in the MLS.
Quote from: luckylefty on December 15, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
I didn't base a single thing on what Cooke was thinking. I said "It's tough to say Cooke leaving Darthmouth for the Union was a bad move", which I absolutely stand by. You have no idea what he was looking for, nor do I, but I would never come out and say something was a bad move when the guy has a stable job in one of the best academies in the MLS.
It is not as stable a job as Dartmouth. Like I said if the Technical Director leaves and a new one comes in he could quite possibly clean house. Also, Cook got his Professional License while at Dartmouth. To me that means he thought he was good enough to coach in a more challenging role than Dartmouth. Those are not easy licenses to get and take a lot of time and cost a ton of money to get. You do not go and get one of those licenses to go coach an academy team. Makes no sense. He must have thought he would take a chance and get into an MLS situation with the hope of eventually coaching in MLS. That has not happened as of yet and I doubt it ever will. I am basing my point on fact(professional license) and also opinion. You are basing your point on pure conjecture.
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 15, 2017, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: luckylefty on December 15, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
I didn't base a single thing on what Cooke was thinking. I said "It's tough to say Cooke leaving Darthmouth for the Union was a bad move", which I absolutely stand by. You have no idea what he was looking for, nor do I, but I would never come out and say something was a bad move when the guy has a stable job in one of the best academies in the MLS.
It is not as stable a job as Dartmouth. Like I said if the Technical Director leaves and a new one comes in he could quite possibly clean house. Also, Cook got his Professional License while at Dartmouth. To me that means he thought he was good enough to coach in a more challenging role than Dartmouth. Those are not easy licenses to get and take a lot of time and cost a ton of money to get. You do not go and get one of those licenses to go coach an academy team. Makes no sense. He must have thought he would take a chance and get into an MLS situation with the hope of eventually coaching in MLS. That has not happened as of yet and I doubt it ever will. I am basing my point on fact(professional license) and also opinion. You are basing your point on pure conjecture.
Just to put a bow on this whole back and forth conveniently Jeff Cook has just been hired to be Men's Soccer Head Coach at Penn State.
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/010218aaa.html
Quote from: Mr.Right on January 03, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 15, 2017, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: luckylefty on December 15, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
I didn't base a single thing on what Cooke was thinking. I said "It's tough to say Cooke leaving Darthmouth for the Union was a bad move", which I absolutely stand by. You have no idea what he was looking for, nor do I, but I would never come out and say something was a bad move when the guy has a stable job in one of the best academies in the MLS.
It is not as stable a job as Dartmouth. Like I said if the Technical Director leaves and a new one comes in he could quite possibly clean house. Also, Cook got his Professional License while at Dartmouth. To me that means he thought he was good enough to coach in a more challenging role than Dartmouth. Those are not easy licenses to get and take a lot of time and cost a ton of money to get. You do not go and get one of those licenses to go coach an academy team. Makes no sense. He must have thought he would take a chance and get into an MLS situation with the hope of eventually coaching in MLS. That has not happened as of yet and I doubt it ever will. I am basing my point on fact(professional license) and also opinion. You are basing your point on pure conjecture.
Just to put a bow on this whole back and forth conveniently Jeff Cook has just been hired to be Men's Soccer Head Coach at Penn State.
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/010218aaa.html
Looks like that "bad move" to the Union didn't work out so badly after all.
Quote from: luckylefty on January 06, 2018, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on January 03, 2018, 01:47:31 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on December 15, 2017, 01:55:38 PM
Quote from: luckylefty on December 15, 2017, 01:49:41 PM
I didn't base a single thing on what Cooke was thinking. I said "It's tough to say Cooke leaving Darthmouth for the Union was a bad move", which I absolutely stand by. You have no idea what he was looking for, nor do I, but I would never come out and say something was a bad move when the guy has a stable job in one of the best academies in the MLS.
It is not as stable a job as Dartmouth. Like I said if the Technical Director leaves and a new one comes in he could quite possibly clean house. Also, Cook got his Professional License while at Dartmouth. To me that means he thought he was good enough to coach in a more challenging role than Dartmouth. Those are not easy licenses to get and take a lot of time and cost a ton of money to get. You do not go and get one of those licenses to go coach an academy team. Makes no sense. He must have thought he would take a chance and get into an MLS situation with the hope of eventually coaching in MLS. That has not happened as of yet and I doubt it ever will. I am basing my point on fact(professional license) and also opinion. You are basing your point on pure conjecture.
Just to put a bow on this whole back and forth conveniently Jeff Cook has just been hired to be Men's Soccer Head Coach at Penn State.
http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/010218aaa.html
Looks like that "bad move" to the Union didn't work out so badly after all.
That was not my point...Cook went to get his Professional license to work at the Top of MLS..That obviously was not going to happen but it took him 5 years to figure that out when his peers could have told him that earlier. He is VERY lucky to get such a good job at Penn State being 50 years old. I am guessing he made some connections in the Philadelphia area and throughout the whole state that might of helped him get the gig. Just a guess. However, by him going back to the college game your point that he was "sick of recruiting" and the college game in general was proven wrong. We can leave at that but still he is very lucky to get such a good gig....Anyhow...
Now as predicted the Dartmouth job has opened up AGAIN because Chad Riley got the Notre Dame job which is another shock to me. I would have thought Clarke's son would have wanted it but maybe he likes Wash U..
http://www.und.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/010418aac.html
My hunch is Wheeler will apply to his Alma Mater again but I am not sure if he has a great chance. If he was passed over the 1st time why would they hire him the 2nd time? I could be wrong and hope I am as I would like to see him get this job. With the former Williams AD Sheehy now the AD at Dartmouth he is known for hiring "winners" whatever that means. He likes proven winners and Wheeler has not done much winning lately. However, Riley had no Head Coahing experience before he got hired at Dartmouth so who knows. I must say if Shapiro applied I think he would get it. Proven winner in D3, Sheehy knows Nescac and how difficult it is to win continually in Nescac, D1 Assistant experience, etc etc..If Shapiro wants a different challenge it is time to get on the horse because if he waits until he hits 50 it will be extremely difficult especially making the jump to D1. Certainly if Cook and Riley and even O'Leary could win Ivy Titles at Dartmouth than Shapiro can as well. They key is can he get them past the Sweet 16 which is very difficult when you start to go up against ACC schools etc. This is a logical next move for a very successful coach who I think must be in his mid 40's. If he can win at Dartmouth then he can certainly use it as a stepping stone to a better job in D1 like everyone else. O'Leary's move to George Mason after Dartmouth was a complete disaster and he knew it. He resigned at George Mason after I think 3 years to take the Bowdoin job. The rumor was the AD at George Mason when O'Leary resigned asked him "what Bowdoin College is or where it is"?
Anyway, nothing wrong with Shapiro staying at Tufts for the next 25 years but if he has any notion of moving on this is the time to do it.
A match between two nationally prominent programs, Oneonta and St. Lawrence, just kicked off at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/8330429
Quote from: Ommadawn on September 07, 2018, 04:07:38 PM
A match between two nationally prominent programs, Oneonta and St. Lawrence, just kicked off at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/8330429
After missing the second UMASS-Boston goal by about a second, I got to this feed about a second before SLU scored. Never realized how much SLU's uniforms look like Ajax...perhaps it makes sense given Durocher's commitment to the concept of "total football" made popular by Cruyff/the Dutch. Have a feeling I'm a few years late on that one.
Messiah and York playing now..entering second half. Close game..no score at half
The revolution will not be televised - but Grove City and CMU will be: http://www2.gcc.edu/sports/M-Soccer/liveview.htm
Checking out the Lynchburg/Roanoke feed, and it's beautiful. Nice clear picture, good camera work, and multiple cameras being used. Very impressed.
Quote from: OldNed on September 25, 2018, 07:18:50 PM
Checking out the Lynchburg/Roanoke feed, and it's beautiful. Nice clear picture, good camera work, and multiple cameras being used. Very impressed.
The Lynchburg Sports Network (LSN) is among (if not ) the best in D3....and as I've said before Joe Hurtzler is the best play by play guy. Great stuff. And wait until you see the commercials and see Joe's commercial with him roaming the field under the lights by himself.
Elmhurst is beating #1 ranked Chicago 1-0 with 33 Minutes left in the 2nd half. As I write this Chicago scores. 1-1 with 31 minutes. It would be a heck of
an upset. Elmhurst is 1-7 on the year.
Quote from: TyWebb on September 25, 2018, 09:24:32 PM
Elmhurst is beating #1 ranked Chicago 1-0 with 33 Minutes left in the 2nd half. As I write this Chicago scores. 1-1 with 31 minutes. It would be a heck of
an upset. Elmhurst is 1-7 on the year.
If anyone is interested:
https://livestream.com/elmhurstcollege/menssoccer
Spoiler alert!!! Chicago kicks it into gear and scores two more goals in 4 minutes. 3-1 Chicago on top.
The Red Dragons of Oneonta are hosting the Red Dragons of Cortland. On now at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/8330481
Quote from: Ommadawn on September 28, 2018, 04:12:33 PM
The Red Dragons of Oneonta are hosting the Red Dragons of Cortland. On now at:
https://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/8330481
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/353/279/e31.jpg)
Johns Hopkins 2 Messiah 0, about 5 minutes into the 2nd half.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/centennial/portal.htm?eventId=443280&streamType=video
Quote from: TyWebb on October 01, 2018, 08:09:07 PM
Johns Hopkins 2 Messiah 0, about 5 minutes into the 2nd half.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/centennial/portal.htm?eventId=443280&streamType=video
2-1 with just over 10 minutes left...buckle up!
WEST in the NICK of time to send this one to OT, 2-2.
Raise your hand if you've seen this one before.
Have to say Hopkins plays some really nice stuff. I guess I did see them last year against Tufts but I'm very impressed with them today.
thought for sure with momentum that Messiah would score in OT but give Hopkins credit. I thought their goalie made some great saves all game long. 13 shots on goal. First Hopkins goal looked to be a mistake from Messiah but would have to see replay. Just a long ball and keeper was beat to the ball I believe. West was huge again under pressure.
Is there any way to watch the Messiah JHU game online now?
It looks to be available on the "On Demand" tab here: https://portal.stretchinternet.com/jhu/#onDemandTab.
EDIT: Ooops, you need a password to access it.
You used to be able to access prior games up until like 5 years ago and then coaches began realizing that non-conference and conference opponents were scouting them with relative ease without even leaving the office. Hopkins SID and Head Coach would need to authorize for you to watch it. I would give you maybe a 10% chance of getting their authorization. Maybe 15% if you have some serious persuasion skills. I would wait a day as they might not be in the best of moods after Hopkins blew the game. Hopkins was very organized defensively from what I saw in the 2nd Half but did not have the mental toughness to see a 2-0 lead out with 10 minutes to play. West is a beast and while I have only seen Lopez/Chicago once this season I might have to agree with Falconer that West is the best striker in the country right now. Lopez is a stud but if I am building a team from scratch I pick West over Lopez. Hopkins is an NCAA team for sure though and it would be a disappointment if they failed to get a Pool C. Hopkins showed what they can do as they focused 100% for 80 minutes and were determined to beat Messiah last night. They just could not see it out. If they play like that for EVERY game than they will be in the NCAA's. I am guessing that Hopkins has not played like that every game this season. You have got to get pumped for EVERY game no matter who you are playing.
There's a potential upset in the making in Colorado Springs, with Colorado College leading 1-0 over Trinity (TX) with less than 20' to play:
https://cctigers.com/watch/?Live=696&type=Live
And just as I hit "Post," Trinity ties it up at 1 in the rarefied air of Colorado Springs at 72'
...and the game ends in a 1-1 tie. Good (and fair) result for the home squad.
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 26, 2018, 11:35:48 PM
...and the game ends in a 1-1 tie. Good (and fair) result for the home squad.
I watched a large part of this one, too--from the opening minute until about 65 minutes into the game. I agree the result was fair. Both teams had their chances, and they played each other straight up. My impression is that Trinity isn't quite as skilled on either end as they have often been in the past. I've never seen CC play before.
Lycoming v. Messiah stream now working: 0-0, 13 minutes left first half.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/messiah/portal.htm?eventId=487003&streamType=video
Bridgewater at W&L for the ODAC. 0-0 25 minutes in. Bridgeater has been packed back the whole time so far. Think they crossed the half twice with possession.
W&L up 3-0 on Bridgewater. 3 goals in the first 20 minutes of the second half well deserved as they continue to dominate the game. The Generals are going to roll into the NCAA playoffs on the back of a 13-0-1 streak.
Colby in PKs over Williams. NESCAC #8 seed (8-6-3) going to the dance.
Opening Weekend Notables
8/30
CMS vs Ogelthorpe (neutral)
Carthage @ Camden
CMU @ Salisbury
Springfield @ SLU
W&L vs William Patterson (neutral)
TCNJ vs Lyco (neutral)
Newark @ Oneonta
Western NE @ Babson
NYU @ Ithaca
UR @ Cortland
Messiah @ Hobart
F&M @ LVC
RPI @ Etown
Plattsburgh @ Dickinson
Roger Williams @ Brandeis
Wash U @ St. Thomas
Gettysburg @ Catholic
Roanoke @ Lynchburg
8/31
Cartage @ Rowan
Springfield vs Clarkson (neutral)
TCNJ vs Gettysburg (neutral)
NYU @ Hobart
Messiah @ Ithaca
Newark @ Cortland
RPI @ Dickinson
Plattsburgh @ Etown
Lyco @ Catholic
Hopkins @ Mary Wash
W&L @ Brandeis
OWU @ Calvin
St. Joe's (Maine) @ Gordon
Whitman @ CNU
9/1
John Carroll @ UR
Chicago @ St.Thomas
CMS @ Emory
Whitworth @ Redlands
So there's this streaming from Fredonia. It's not a men's game. Got it from the Buff State site
https://boxcast.tv/view/blue-devil-classic-661974
Good, high octane match going on between Kenyon and Colorado College at:
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/kenyon/portal.htm?eventId=542120&streamType=video
Rowan is up 1-0 early on North Park in the second match of their weekend in Chicago. You can check it out at:
https://boxcast.tv/channel/dmfutowrtlmndztdlxrk?path=msoc
As an added bonus, there is excellent commentary by our own Gregory Sager (if I'm not mistaken).
Quote from: Ommadawn on September 15, 2019, 01:22:27 PM
As an added bonus, there is excellent commentary by our own Gregory Sager (if I'm not mistaken).
That is the case.
I turned it on for a few minutes because I appreciate his commitment to getting the player's names right.
Incidentally, that second Rowan goal was absolutely onsides.
I think it's safe to say that North Park got "NJACked" today (3-1) by the potent brew of physicality, skill, aggression, and athleticism that Rowan possesses (and the conference in general is known for). My favorite Sagerisms on the day were "Cardfest 2019" (a reference to the many "golden ducats" given) and "Sandqvist and Ferrara doing the dipsy doo."
Yep. Rowan came to play today, and the aggressive pressing of the Garden Staters played havoc with NPU's young backline. The first Profs goal came on a rush in which the scorer was so uncovered that there wasn't a Vikings defender within 15 yards of him. The second goal looked offsides to the NPU defense, and the Vikings defenders gave up on the play rather than playing to the whistle. That failure of Soccer 101 put the Profs up at the half, 2-0, but it should've been 3-0; another North Park defensive lapse led to a shot at an open net, as Matthias Stulen had to come off of his line to bail out his teammates, but the Prof struck the left post with the shot.
Rowan's aggression began to get the better of it in the second half, as the Profs piled up a lot of fouls in their own end and drew five yellow cards in that half alone. Rowan has now amassed 18 yellows and two reds in only six matches, and if that pace continues it could bite them in the butt towards the end of the season. In the short term, though, it gave the Vikings seven or eight set-play opportunities, either via corner or close-in direct free kick. But they were stymied every time. In general, that had a lot to do with GK James Weinberg, who was outstanding today for the Profs, but I really came away most impressed with their senior CB, Kevin Primich, who played an All-American-caliber match by clearing without a fuss everything that came into the middle of the box. The Vikings finally did break through with a Peder Olsen goal in the 83rd minute, but their late push left them exposed to a counter, which the Profs executed with aplomb less than a minute later to extend to the 3-1 final.
NPU is still playing without three starters, but no excuses offered here -- the problem for NPU was the Vikings backline, which is healthy. And Rowan certainly played more than well enough to win. The Profs stuck to a good game plan, made very few mistakes, and took advantage of what was given to them by North Park's defense. They're flying home to Jersey today justly proud of a terrific weekend against Chicago and NPU.
Quote from: Ommadawn on September 15, 2019, 03:03:53 PM
I think it's safe to say that North Park got "NJACked" today (3-1) by the potent brew of physicality, skill, aggression, and athleticism that Rowan possesses (and the conference in general is known for). My favorite Sagerisms on the day were "Cardfest 2019" (a reference to the many "golden ducats" given) and "Sandqvist and Ferrara doing the dipsy doo."
Thanks, WUPHF and Ommadawn! I was momentarily taken aback by Sandkvist and Ferrara spinning around like that. I've never seen two opposing players lock arms in the heat of battle and dance a complete circle before. It reminded me of those old-timey electric football games in which the plastic players moved around semi-randomly on a vibrating playing surface. Every now and then two would get entangled and just spin around in circles like that.
McDaniel @ Goucher... https://portal.stretchinternet.com/goucher/portal.htm?eventId=548196&streamType=video
Chicago @ Wheaton:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfaQ6wxgYdk
CNU and W&L headed to OT 1-1 on two second half goals
https://www.cnusports.com/watch/?Live=265&type=Live
Captains and Generals draw. Not much happened in OT - lots of long balls resulting in nothing. I don't think the result will hurt either team too much.
Moravian vs. Eastern - 4pm kickoff
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/moravian/
Not sure who's operating the camera at Oneonta but I sure hope they're not in film studies. Headed to the second OT - hope to see some of it . . .
Well I did - looks like an OG in the second OT - off a corner, keeper parry appears to hit his defender in the head - bounces into the net.
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/haverford/portal.htm?eventId=559616&streamType=video
McDaniel @ Haverford
- Not much they can do, but the wind is killing the sound. Gotta put it on mute.
Carthage and Chicago are scoreless with 23 minutes to play:
https://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/live-video
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 23, 2019, 09:32:22 PM
Carthage and Chicago are scoreless with 23 minutes to play:
https://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/live-video
And just like that...Chicago takes the lead 1-0
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 23, 2019, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: Ommadawn on October 23, 2019, 09:32:22 PM
Carthage and Chicago are scoreless with 23 minutes to play:
https://athletics.uchicago.edu/sports/msoc/live-video
And just like that...Chicago takes the lead 1-0
Carthage equalizes with a stunning long shot with 18 minutes to play.
A big match-up for SCAC supremacy (Colorado College v Trinity [TX]) going on in brrr cold Colorado Springs right now:
https://cctigers.com/watch/?Live=802&type=Live
First round host video streams:
Amherst - Thomas 1p
Keene St. - Ithaca 330p
:https://www.keeneowls.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/schedule
Mary Wash - Keystone 11a
Rowan - Salve Regina 130p
https://umweagles.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/schedule
RPI - E. Nazarene 1p
John. & Wales - Middle. 330p
https://rpiathletics.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule
Messiah - Fram. St. 11a
Babson - SUNY Oneonta 130p
https://oneontaathletics.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2019
JCU - Wash & Jeff 2p
Center - K'zoo 430p
https://jcusports.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2019
Claremont-M-S - TX Lutheran 2p
Trinity - UT Dallas 430p
https://www.trinitytigers.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/schedule
F&M - PS-H 1p
Hobart - Mont. St. 330p
https://www.godiplomats.com/sports/m-soccer/2019-20/schedule
Kenyon - PS-B 11a
Rochester - Hanover 130p
https://athletics.kenyon.edu/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2019
Luther - Principia 2p
Central - Wis-Superior 430p
https://portal.stretchinternet.com/luther/
North Park - Pac. Lutheran 2p
Col Coll - Gus Adolphus 430p
https://athletics.northpark.edu/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2019
(This part of the bracket contained the pods that started play on Friday)
Hop - John Jay 1p
Catholic - Conn Coll 330p
http://www.catholicathletics.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/schedule
Chris New - Eastern 1p
Swat - Noke 330p
https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2019
Tufts - SUNY Maritime 1p
WPI - Nazereth 330p
https://www.gotuftsjumbos.com/sports/msoc/2019-20/schedule
W&L - NC Weslyan 11a
G'burg - Oglethorpe 130p
https://generalssports.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule
St. Norbert v Ohio Northern
https://livestream.com/calvin-university/events/8789233
And ported over from the Big Dance thread, the final game of the day between Hope and OWU can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/hopeathletics
Kickoff slated for 5p EST.
Quote from: TheGreenKnight920 on November 15, 2019, 03:46:23 PM
St. Norbert v Ohio Northern
https://livestream.com/calvin-university/events/8789233
This referee is NOT having a good game!
Anyone else having streaming problems for SNC v Calvin?
https://livestream.com/calvin-university/events/8789233
Amherst hosting St Joe's. Just underway at:
https://www.nsnsports.net/colleges/amherst/?bfplayvid=300845