So I was listening to the Hoopsville marathon show this morning in podcast form, and Dave interviewed both Calvin AD and Hope MBB HC in light of the 200th rivalry game between the two MIAA schools today. Dave mentioned that he and Pat are making their way to Holland this weekend to take in the game. This had me thinking that I would love to see a Hope-Calvin game in person. And then sparked a thought... a Bucket List for D3 hoops. Some of the best things in and around D3 hoops that everyone who loves this game should take their time to watch in person.
D3 Men's Hoops Bucket List:
- Hope - Calvin Rivalry game
- Little 3 NESCAC game - Williams vs. Amherst is my personal thought
- D3hoops.com Las Vegas Classic
- Tommie - Johnnie Rivalry game
- Whitman - Whitworth Rivalry game
- Wooster-Wittenberg Rivalry game (would like to watch this one at Wooster)
- Augustana CCIW game at Carver center... only qualifies for a witnessing a flying jacket
- NCAA tourney first or second weekend of games
- NCAA D3 Final Four Weekend - Final Four games, All Star Game, Championship
- Witnessing The BeltTM in all of its glory, non-NCAA Tourney game
Any thoughts on my list? Everyone will have a different list, but I would love to hear what others would put in their list!
Today's "The Rivalry" (Version 200) game will be televised on WHT Network at 3:00 pm EST. That's Channel 367 for those with DirectTV.
The all time D3 attendance record occurred a few years back when Hope visited Calvin. Game was played at a major local arena in Grand Rapids. 11,000 in attendance.
I once saw Oshkosh play at 1 pm. Drove to Waukesha to see Carroll College in action at 4, and then headed to Kenosha to witness Carthage at 7:30. 3 games in 3 different cities involving 3 different conferences. Carroll was in the MWC at the time. That's my claim to fame...
I think a proper D3 Bucket List would have to include a Grinnell game or in a pinch maybe Greenville. Also you have to keep track of the stats manually ;)
Fellow SLIAC fan Yjack and I talked very lightly of taking a trip.. in what direction?... and seeing as many D3 gyms as we could...my wife in particular responded, "yeh, right"... and if just Yjack and I went, well, I'd admit, I'd drive him nuts before he'd drive me nuts....
I'd add a CMS vs Pomona-Pitzer rivalry game to the list. Both typically at the top of SCIAC, but more interesting is the proximity of the five colleges involved. All right across the street from each other, with gyms just a few hundred yards apart on 6th Street.
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 02, 2019, 10:59:58 AM
So I was listening to the Hoopsville marathon show this morning in podcast form, and Dave interviewed both Calvin AD and Hope MBB HC in light of the 200th rivalry game between the two MIAA schools today. Dave mentioned that he and Pat are making their way to Holland this weekend to take in the game. This had me thinking that I would love to see a Hope-Calvin game in person. And then sparked a thought... a Bucket List for D3 hoops. Some of the best things in and around D3 hoops that everyone who loves this game should take their time to watch in person.
D3 Men's Hoops Bucket List:
- Hope - Calvin Rivalry game
- Little 3 NESCAC game - Williams vs. Amherst is my personal thought
- D3hoops.com Las Vegas Classic
- Tommie - Johnnie Rivalry game
- Whitman - Whitworth Rivalry game
- Wooster-Wittenberg Rivalry game (would like to watch this one at Wooster)
- Augustana CCIW game at Carver center... only qualifies for a witnessing a flying jacket
- NCAA tourney first or second weekend of games
- NCAA D3 Final Four Weekend - Final Four games, All Star Game, Championship
- Witnessing The BeltTM in all of its glory, non-NCAA Tourney game
Any thoughts on my list? Everyone will have a different list, but I would love to hear what others would put in their list!
I can check off the first item on the list plus the last four (minus the All-Star Game, which wasn't held at any of the Final Fours I've attended), and I still have a bit of retina burn from the last one. ;)
As far as the flying sportscoat demonstration is concerned, Augie's Carver P.E. Center isn't really the best place to go for said spectacle; at NPU or Elmhurst, you actually have a much better chance of getting hit by a random airborne sleeve hurled in anger than you do at Carver. It's not just that the crackerbox and Faganel Hall are small and intimate; Grey Giovanine's also more cautious with his sportscoat in Carver now, because the Augie student section wears sportscoats, too, and doffs them when he doffs his -- and he likes to toy with them.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 02, 2019, 11:41:46 AM
I once saw Oshkosh play at 1 pm. Drove to Waukesha to see Carroll College in action at 4, and then headed to Kenosha to witness Carthage at 7:30. 3 games in 3 different cities involving 3 different conferences. Carroll was in the MWC at the time. That's my claim to fame...
Nobody's ever going to top that, although I've had my fair share of three-D3-games-in-one-day Saturdays. I've never logged more than two venues in two towns while doing so, however.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 02, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
I think a proper D3 Bucket List would have to include a Grinnell game or in a pinch maybe Greenville. Also you have to keep track of the stats manually ;)
Been there, done that. As I said on the CCIW board in November, when Greenville came to NPU for the opening tournament and played the Vikings on the second day, I was asked to give up my broadcasting perch and my mic in order to come down to the scorer's table and be the official scorer. That was because the North Park SID wanted both his most experienced scoreboard operator on the scoreboard controller (and that person is usually our official scorer) and an experienced scorer to keep the book for what was undoubtedly going to be a wild affair, scorebook wise (and I qualify for that description).
As I later posted on the board, I traded the opportunity to lose my voice for an opportunity to get writer's cramp.
Quote from: hopefan on February 02, 2019, 01:51:23 PM
Fellow SLIAC fan Yjack and I talked very lightly of taking a trip.. in what direction?... and seeing as many D3 gyms as we could...my wife in particular responded, "yeh, right"... and if just Yjack and I went, well, I'd admit, I'd drive him nuts before he'd drive me nuts....
LOL! This sounds like a great vacation for our collective brand of weirdo sports fan ... but it's definitely suited only for bachelors, or for a married man who has a wife who is either extraordinarily indulgent of her husband or pretty eccentric in her own right.
I imagine that a lot of fans have a bucket list that is specific to their team.
As part of my list, I would like to watch Washington University in road games at the more prominent regional rivals (of sorts) including Augustana, Fontbonne, Illlinois Wesleyan, Webster, and Wheaton. The only one left on that list is Wheaton.
I also would like to visit each conference opponent at least once for a game, but so far I only have Chicago in my bucket.
I do think that Washington University-Chicago is a great bucket list game. Maybe way down the list for most fans. It has been a throw out the record books type game for quite a while.
Quote from: WUPHF on February 02, 2019, 05:02:23 PM
I do think that Washington University-Chicago is a great bucket list game. Maybe way down the list for most fans. It has been a throw out the record books type game for quite a while.
Yep. I've seen a couple of those at Ratner.
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
I can't think that I'm at the top of the list, but because I played and coached out east in the 60s and 70s, then followed Hope in the 80's, Wash U in the 90's, and SLIAC in the 2000's, I can present a pretty diverse itinerary. I'll work it up the next several days.
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 02, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
I think a proper D3 Bucket List would have to include a Grinnell game or in a pinch maybe Greenville. Also you have to keep track of the stats manually ;)
I got to see Grinnell play at Grinnell when John Grotberg and (current coach) David Arseneault Jr were on the court - In my opinion, the best Grinnell team they've had. It was a lot of fun.
I saw THE Greenville at Grinnell game, played when Greenville was in the learning stages of the system... it was an ugly game, and one that got me into a problematic situation given what I wrote about it... ::) ::) I honestly think I was the only Greenville/SLIAC fan there, but there was a nice following for Grinnell...Would be very... VERY... interesting to see a home and away rematch now, though Greenville does lose a large number of seniors going into next season....
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 03, 2019, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 02, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
I think a proper D3 Bucket List would have to include a Grinnell game or in a pinch maybe Greenville. Also you have to keep track of the stats manually ;)
I got to see Grinnell play at Grinnell when John Grotberg and (current coach) David Arseneault Jr were on the court - In my opinion, the best Grinnell team they've had. It was a lot of fun.
I agree. And don't forget about Bobby Long. Those three really made that team very talented. It wasn't just a hackfest, helter skeltor-type system. It was a joy to watch them. I saw that version several times.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
I have been to quite a few gyms threw playing and then recently when I go somewhere new I like to stop at close D3 schools and check out their campus and gym specifically. Unfortunately, I have seen a limited amount of live games at these gyms, but I did see Springfield take on Salisbury this year at the Naismith Classic, with Nichols vs Eastern CT afterwards. Very fun to take that game in and see some great teams/talent from a region I follow more with a birds eye view. Located in Minneapolis it is too hard to reasonably travel to non-MIAC/UMAC games. That is where I am envious of the densely populated east coast!
Back to the point though, I have been meaning to make a blog of all these schools I visited and rank their gyms (I have an obsession with gyms, I find them all so fascinating and learning this history behind all of them. |One of my first threads I made on the boards was ranking teams by gym). My tour isn't complete without getting a small pennant of the school that hangs up in my room... so yeah I nerd out about this stuff. Luckily the GF also played hoops at Concordia and is at least somewhat interested in the D3 schools... for the time being at least.
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 04, 2019, 01:11:01 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
I have been to quite a few gyms threw playing and then recently when I go somewhere new I like to stop at close D3 schools and check out their campus and gym specifically. Unfortunately, I have seen a limited amount of live games at these gyms, but I did see Springfield take on Salisbury this year at the Naismith Classic, with Nichols vs Eastern CT afterwards. Very fun to take that game in and see some great teams/talent from a region I follow more with a birds eye view. Located in Minneapolis it is too hard to reasonably travel to non-MIAC/UMAC games. That is where I am envious of the densely populated east coast!
You're not far at all from River Falls, though. It's 45 minutes from downtown Minneapolis to River Falls via I-90 and WI-35. Ever take in a game at the Karges Center? You potentially have the chance to see every WIAC team live each season.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 04, 2019, 01:18:02 AM
Quote from: Smitty Oom on February 04, 2019, 01:11:01 AM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
I have been to quite a few gyms threw playing and then recently when I go somewhere new I like to stop at close D3 schools and check out their campus and gym specifically. Unfortunately, I have seen a limited amount of live games at these gyms, but I did see Springfield take on Salisbury this year at the Naismith Classic, with Nichols vs Eastern CT afterwards. Very fun to take that game in and see some great teams/talent from a region I follow more with a birds eye view. Located in Minneapolis it is too hard to reasonably travel to non-MIAC/UMAC games. That is where I am envious of the densely populated east coast!
You're not far at all from River Falls, though. It's 45 minutes from downtown Minneapolis to River Falls via I-90 and WI-35. Ever take in a game at the Karges Center? You potentially have the chance to see every WIAC team live each season.
I did go there to watch Bethel play UW-RF in the first round of the NCAA tourney in 2016-17 tourney. The hosting UWRF beat a very good Bethel team in overtime, but lost to Wartburg later that weekend. The Falcons didn't quite have the legs under them after the emotional high of the Bethel win.
That was before their new renovations though, so no I have not seen the new gym. I should make more of an effort to see some good WIAC teams over there. Would be nice if the Falcons were a top 25 relevant team themselves though (this excuse is only good for this year, last couple years they have been solid).
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 02:16:39 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 03, 2019, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on February 02, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
I think a proper D3 Bucket List would have to include a Grinnell game or in a pinch maybe Greenville. Also you have to keep track of the stats manually ;)
I got to see Grinnell play at Grinnell when John Grotberg and (current coach) David Arseneault Jr were on the court - In my opinion, the best Grinnell team they've had. It was a lot of fun.
I agree. And don't forget about Bobby Long. Those three really made that team very talented. It wasn't just a hackfest, helter skeltor-type system. It was a joy to watch them. I saw that version several times.
They also had a 6'6" guy with long arms playing the back end of the press - he was quick enough to prevent most open layups and made a ton of steals. It was a very formidable team. I think if they'd made some of the adjustments Little A has now made as coach, they could've been really dangerous for a lot of teams.
Recommendations for other peoples' bucket lists based on things I've already done:
A Friday night Wash U at NYU game. This has to wait for their new gym, now, but at the Coles Center this was definitely destination basketball. The Sunday UAA games don't have the same atmosphere as the Friday night ones.
A Saturday WIAC game at UW-Stevens Point. Great crowds, good noise, pick a competitive game.
I've seen a bunch of other great things but they have fallen by the wayside as rivalries have gotten non-competitive.
... and based on things I want to do:
A Pomona-Pitzer-Claremont-Mudd-Scripps game. Not sure with the new arena situation where this is better to see now, so we'll see.
A Whitman-Whitworth game. Nuff said.
The American Southwest Conference tournament and the ODAC tournament. Love these four-games-on-Thursday setups.
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 03, 2019, 09:06:18 AM
In the baseball world, some people's bucket list would be to attend a game in every ballpark. Obviously that would probably be impossible in our D3 basketball world, but how many gyms have some our well-traveled posters been to?
I will take the ASC gyms and others
in which I have seen a game (not just been to...)
I have also seen a game at LaGrange.
Here are the ASC gyms. (Austin College and University of Dallas were ASC).
McMurry
HSU
HPU - The Brownwood (
Mausoleum) Coliseum (including Hope vs HPU in the Women's Elite 8 in 2008. Two other posters were there, but I will maintain their confidentiality to protect the innocent).
Mississippi College, back in the day.
UT-Dallas
University of Dallas
Austin College
UT-Tyler
LeTourneau
Concordia TX
and...drum roll please...
the piece de resistance...
The Gallego Center on the campus of Sul Ross State University in Alpine Texas (Elevation 4,475 feet).
Once upon a time, i.e., when I was in college, a Kings-Scranton game would have been a top 10 rivalry game. In the 70 years since it started, there's been 128 games, even though for 35 of those years they weren't in the same conference and 4 years(2008-11) of not playing because of bad feelings about Scranton leaving the MAC-Freedom for the new Landmark. Scranton played at the CYC(capacity-4000) and it was filled for the Kings' game. This is ~ 25% more than the combined enrollment then for the 2 schools. We did have significant student support for this game from our sister colleges(Misericordia & Marywood), which were all-women at the time.
When Scranton opened the Long Center(capacity-2800) in 1969, hundreds(including 50 Scranton riot police) were turned away at the door for lack of room. In addition, Kings had a student tradition that some of them(~ 30) would walk from Kings to the game(18 miles), a daunting task in the middle of a northeast PA winter. A huge celebration would break out when they would stagger into the gym some time during the frosh game.
Alas, intersession and student obsession ::) with academics along with playing the game in the fall semester time period have considerably lessened the rivalry aspect the last 10 years. It's been a fond memory.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
Recommendations for other peoples' bucket lists based on things I've already done:
A Friday night Wash U at NYU game. This has to wait for their new gym, now, but at the Coles Center this was definitely destination basketball. The Sunday UAA games don't have the same atmosphere as the Friday night ones.
A Saturday WIAC game at UW-Stevens Point. Great crowds, good noise, pick a competitive game.
I've seen a bunch of other great things but they have fallen by the wayside as rivalries have gotten non-competitive.
... and based on things I want to do:
A Pomona-Pitzer-Claremont-Mudd-Scripps game. Not sure with the new arena situation where this is better to see now, so we'll see.
A Whitman-Whitworth game. Nuff said.
The American Southwest Conference tournament and the ODAC tournament. Love these four-games-on-Thursday setups.
I agree. It would be cool to set up camp for 4 days and just watch basketball. Reminds me when I was a kid and Point was in the NAIA tourneys and we'd go down to KC.
Off the top of my head I was trying to figure out how many gyms I've seen a game at, I'm at about 25. I don't think that's too bad since I don't have the advantage of ever being a player/coach/staff member.
I've got 27 gyms(8 as a player), 2 Final 4s(Albright-'76, Virginia Wesleyan-2005), 12 NCAA tourney sites, 3(Williams, Bowdoin, Washington College) more from the outside while passing thru on summer vacation and 2 more for a dance(Misericordia, Marywood) when they were all-women colleges.
I've got 22 D3 gyms in five states, three Final Fours (Rock Island in '80, Grand Rapids in '85 and '87), and more D3 tourney games than I can remember.
I've also been in three gyms (Concordia WI, Olivet, and Anderson) where I didn't see a game, because I was on campus to do PBP for a football game.
I have been to 27 total d3 gyms! In addition to that I have been to the Salem civic center for a final four weekend and also watched a d3 game at US Bank Stadium (where the MN vikings play). Not a bad resume for now. Kind of a shame/embarrassing I haven't seen a Bethany Lutheran or any Iowa school gyms and just two WI school gyms. Add in a 2017 first weekend pod at UWRF and a 2018 first weekend pod at SJU!
PLAYED IN... 19 total
11 MIAC gyms
UW-Superior
NWU
Crown
UM-Morris
North Central
St. Scholastica
Northwestern
Roanoke
Salem Civic Center*
WATCHED A GAME IN (and not play in)... 3 total
UW-RF
St. Kates (Women only)
Springfield
US Bank Stadium*
Salem Civic Center*
JUST TOURED.... 5 total
Colorado College
Tufts
Pacific Lutheran
Puget Sound
Emerson (doors locked, only peered through window)
* do not count as D3 gyms
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
Recommendations for other peoples' bucket lists based on things I've already done:
A Friday night Wash U at NYU game. This has to wait for their new gym, now, but at the Coles Center this was definitely destination basketball. The Sunday UAA games don't have the same atmosphere as the Friday night ones.
A Saturday WIAC game at UW-Stevens Point. Great crowds, good noise, pick a competitive game.
I've seen a bunch of other great things but they have fallen by the wayside as rivalries have gotten non-competitive.
... and based on things I want to do:
A Pomona-Pitzer-Claremont-Mudd-Scripps game. Not sure with the new arena situation where this is better to see now, so we'll see.
A Whitman-Whitworth game. Nuff said.
The American Southwest Conference tournament and the ODAC tournament. Love these four-games-on-Thursday setups.
All great things, Pat. Personally, I have fallen in love with WashU the past couple years so I would love to see a Maroons-Bears or Eagles-Bears game at the Field House for a UAA matchup.
Agree with the large full conference tournament of the ODAC and ASC with games at a neutral site. Personally would love to see the 11 team MIAC transition to that eventually, but not ever expecting it.
I've seen games on 21 campuses in eight states (some arenas have been replaced since the 1970s):
9 CCIW gyms
Albright College
Calvin
Hope
Albion
Olivet
Alma
Coe
UW-Platteville
UW-Eau Claire
Louisiana College
Otterbein
Rhodes
Eight additional gyms (no game) include Knox, Monmouth, MacMurray, Cornell, Washington U, Bluffton, Northwestern, St. Marys of Indiana (women)
I mentioned this to Dave over the weekend. Wittenberg/Wooster is a good one to see, I enjoyed being a neutral there. Honestly though I think if you pick the two best teams in just about any conference and go watch them play you'll get a great atmosphere.
Good tip, best time for an "outsider" to see a Hope/Calvin game is in the MIAA Tournament. It hasn't sold out in awhile.
I've been in 14 gyms in the MIAA alone. That's not bad for an 8 team conference. ;) :D
25 overall I think, 27 if we're counting women's games as well (BW, IWU). But multiple trips to places like Witt, Augustana, Wheaton, Carthage, UWSP.
I think a qualifier has to be that you watch a men's basketball game, considering this is a men's basketball board. I would accept a non-D3 basketball game, like a lot of WIAC teams have played Viterbo in the past and the MIAA teams seem to play a handful of non-D3 teams. Simply "touring a facility" shouldn't count, not that we are actually keeping count.
Good to know sac. I think we all just assumed Hope v Calvin was always sold out!
I have been to 25 d3 gyms, all from playing at Augie.
Played in a total of 21 gyms
8 CCIW gyms (not including Carroll)
Simpson
MacMurray
UW-Oshkosh
Wash U
Knox
St. Norberts
U of Chicago
UW - Stevens Point
UW - Platteville
Loras
UW - Whitewater
Mount St. Joseph
Thomas More
Watched a game from the bench in 4 total gyms
Monmouth
Aurora
Central
Salem Civic Center
Quote from: Augie15 on February 05, 2019, 11:34:57 AM
I have been to 25 d3 gyms, all from playing at Augie.
Played in a total of 21 gyms
8 CCIW gyms (not including Carroll)
Simpson
MacMurray
UW-Oshkosh
Wash U
Knox
St. Norberts
U of Chicago
UW - Stevens Point
UW - Platteville
Loras
UW - Whitewater
Mount St. Joseph
Thomas More
Watched a game from the bench in 4 total gyms
Monmouth
Aurora
Central
Salem Civic Center
Some of the games played in on second glance seem to be JV games that I sat on the bench to watch actual game afterward. Same amount of gyms, just a different allocation.
This gyms thing is reminding me I have to update my ongoing DIII list of gyms, fields, stadiums, sports, and schools ...
8 WIAC schools - never made it to Superior
Wisconsin Lutheran
MSOE
Marian
Lakeland
Concordia WI
Edgewood
Aurora
Lawrence
St. Norbert
Ripon
Carroll
Carthage
U of Chicago
Kemper Arena (NAIA tournament)
Northern Michigan
Salem (4 Final Fours)
UW-Sheboygan count?
Heading to Fort Wayne IN for this year's Final Four
I've been at Hope games at all of these locations (more than 1 gym for several MIAA schools)
29 D3 schools + 8 NAIA + 1 D2 + 2 D1 + Salem = 41
9 MIAA schools (8 team league, but we had Defiance for a while)
CCIW
Augustana
Carthage
Elmhurst
North Central
North Park
Wheaton
WIAC
UW La Crosse
UW Platteville
UW Stevens Point
UW Stout
UW Whitewater
Other D3
Aurora
Chicago
John Carroll
Manchester
Marietta
St. Norbert
Thomas More
Wittenberg
Wooster
NAIA
Aquinas
Cornerstone
Davenport
Edward Waters
Northwestern (IA)
Spring Arbor
Trinity Christian
Warner Southern
D2
Grand Valley
D1
Indiana
Western Michigan
If we don't count D3 women's games, then I'm down to 18 from 27.
played frosh game(8)
Scranton
Kings
Wilkes
Lycoming
Upsala
Muhlenberg
Moravian
Susquehanna
watched (10)
Elizabethtown
Catholic
Goucher
Stevenson
DeSales(ceiling banner has father of 2 Scranton players on all-time scoring list)
York
Gettysburg * NCAA tourney Pat Coleman working with his daughter
F&M *
William Paterson *
Albright * '76 Final 4
3 Scranton games in University Division gyms(before D1/D3 divisions)
Penn Palestra (against Temple; played frosh game)
Lafayette (played frosh game)
Villanova
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 05, 2019, 11:57:43 AM
This gyms thing is reminding me I have to update my ongoing DIII list of gyms, fields, stadiums, sports, and schools ...
I personally think that each teams landing page on d3hoops.com should have a pic of their gym like the d3football landing pages have pics of the field/stadiums! I know it is may be a lot of "unnecessary" work so I would volunteer on collecting images/contacting schools or whatever may need to be done.
I like gyms with history, so I might suggest the gym at Westminster (MO) for a bucket list gym. The gym, of course, was where Winston Churchill gave the Iron Curtain speech.
(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/150224-churchill-iron-curtain-speech-02.jpg?quality=85&w=564)
Everything in the gym is from a different era, include the NCAA and SLIAC banners.
If the history of the gym matters, this gym is a must...
Go when they play Greenville then? ??? ::)
According to Google Maps, Fulton is only about 90 minutes further than Greenville, though I have a better idea:
Greenville at Webster, potentially with everything on the line, next morning Brandeis at Washington University, home for dinner.
Quote from: WUPHF on February 05, 2019, 03:24:09 PM
I like gyms with history, so I might suggest the gym at Westminster (MO) for a bucket list gym. The gym, of course, was where Winston Churchill gave the Iron Curtain speech.
(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/150224-churchill-iron-curtain-speech-02.jpg?quality=85&w=564)
Everything in the gym is from a different era, include the NCAA and SLIAC banners.
If the history of the gym matters, this gym is a must...
Well that's a must see.
Although I've never been inside, I'd nominate the other palestra - the U of Rochester's home court - for uniqueness; from videostreams, it looks like playing in a swimming pool with the close high walls and elevated seating.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 04, 2019, 12:38:01 PM
A Pomona-Pitzer-Claremont-Mudd-Scripps game. Not sure with the new arena situation where this is better to see now, so we'll see.
Yeah, I'm afraid neither of the current facilities come close to the intensity of Ducey Gym.
UWSP x2 (Quandt + 1 Men's game at the Berg)
UWW
UWO
UWPlatte
UWStout
UWEC
UWLaX
UWRF (old gym)
UWSuperior
Wheaton (Centennial Gym and King Arena... Same gym, different configuration)
Elmhurst
North Central
IWU
Benedictine
Carthage (does a scrimmage count?)
Beloit (scrimmage)
St. Norbert (scrimmage)
Coe
Marian
Edgewood
Carroll
Carnegie Mellon
La Roche
Gustavus Adolphus
Puget Sound
Lawrence
Finlandia University
So that's 24, without the scrimmages or additional gyms. And ending in a big FU.
(though, honestly, FU was before most of the others... And FU is pretty little).
Plus Salem (2 trips, 4 games). And two games at the McDermott Center in Las Vegas.
Also been inside and played basketball (though not for a true game) at Lake Forest and Augustana.
Non-DIII
Michigan Tech
Viterbo
St. Francis (IL)
Trinity International
Marquette (exhibition)
UW Parkside (scrimmage)
I have never been to Finlandia. I find it hard to imagine how I might get up there although I have seen FU play elsewhere.
I have imagined a trip to all of the gyms at the periphery of D3.
I know across the South, west to east, it would be Sul Ross State, Schreiner, Trinity TX, Texas Lutheran, Louisiana College, Belhaven, Huntingdon, LaGrange for the men, Wesleyan in Macon GA for the women...
You would draw a straight line from one school to the next. Millsaps appears to be just north of the line between Louisiana College and the next D3 school, Belhaven.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
I have never been to Finlandia. I find it hard to imagine how I might get up there although I have seen FU play elsewhere.
Oh, c'mon, Pat. Being in the Twin Cities(?), you're closer to Finlandia than 95+% of D3 posters! And (lacking a handy map) isn't Finlandia 'over there' (essentially straight east) rather than 'up there'? ;D
(OK. Just checked Bing Maps - Houghton IS about a 45 degree NE from Minneapolis. ;) I thought they were essentially the same latitude.)
If anyone wants to check off one of the big rivalries, come to Wooster's Timken Gym in Saturday night for the Wittenberg game!
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 07, 2019, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
I have never been to Finlandia. I find it hard to imagine how I might get up there although I have seen FU play elsewhere.
Oh, c'mon, Pat. Being in the Twin Cities(?), you're closer to Finlandia than 95+% of D3 posters! And (lacking a handy map) isn't Finlandia 'over there' (essentially straight east) rather than 'up there'? ;D
(OK. Just checked Bing Maps - Houghton IS about a 45 degree NE from Minneapolis. ;) I thought they were essentially the same latitude.)
Agreed. Closer than most, but the weather makes it a really tough sell. I went to their first-ever football game because it was Labor Day and the weather would be "nice" but even that was a long trip.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
I have never been to Finlandia. I find it hard to imagine how I might get up there although I have seen FU play elsewhere.
What cracks me up is that John is a Wheaton native .. but because his visiting D3 gyms was based upon his career as a player for UWSP, he's been to the gym in Finlandia, on the Keweenau Peninsula of the U.P. (which sticks out into Lake Superior; i.e., it's ridiculously far north), yet he's been to fewer than half of the D3 gyms in Chicagoland. Just one of those quirky things, I guess.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 07, 2019, 07:56:13 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 07, 2019, 06:39:17 PM
I have never been to Finlandia. I find it hard to imagine how I might get up there although I have seen FU play elsewhere.
Oh, c'mon, Pat. Being in the Twin Cities(?), you're closer to Finlandia than 95+% of D3 posters! And (lacking a handy map) isn't Finlandia 'over there' (essentially straight east) rather than 'up there'? ;D
(OK. Just checked Bing Maps - Houghton IS about a 45 degree NE from Minneapolis. ;) I thought they were essentially the same latitude.)
I'd be more surprised if there were D3 gyms in the Twin Cities that Pat hasn't visited.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 07, 2019, 07:27:05 PM
I have imagined a trip to all of the gyms at the periphery of D3.
I know across the South, west to east, it would be Sul Ross State, Schreiner, Trinity TX, Texas Lutheran, Louisiana College, Belhaven, Huntingdon, LaGrange for the men, Wesleyan in Macon GA for the women...
Have you seen the scores of Wesleyan (GA)'s games this year, Ralph? You'd need to be a little bit of a masochist to make a special trip to see a game there, unless you were related to one of the players. ;)
So as far as posters go, I guess I can present a pretty diverse list of D3 gyms that I've seen games or played or coached in..
I was connected to RPI from 1967-71 and again 73-77... then Hope 77-87... then Wash U and SLIAC from then on
From RPI days playing and coaching
RPI (both the old '87 Gym and the Troy RPI Armory)
Union
St. Lawrence
Clarkson
RIT
Rochester
Alfred
Hobart
Albany State Then D3
Siena Then College Division
Williams
North Adams St (now Mass Coll LA)
Brandeis
MIT
Stevens
Brooklyn Poly
Upsala (gone)
Brockport
Oneonta
Plattsburgh
New Paltz
Ithaca
Hartwick
SUNY-Delhi (just several years ago)
Hamilton
Middlebury
Johns Hopkins
Drexel Tech (then College Division)
Marist (then College Division)
Also played or coached at D1 schools Cornell, Colgate, Vermont, Columbia and West Point and YES THE GEORGETOWN
CCNY
Rhode Island College
Western New England
How about Canadian Schools too..
Ottawa
Carleton
Loyola Montreal
Mount Allison
Now then... from Hope/Wash U/SLIAC days
Hope
Calvin
Albion
Alma
Olivet
Kalamazoo
Adrian (nope, Trine and Defiance were after I was in Michigan)
DePauw
Wittenberg
Wheaton
Allegheny
Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Central (Iowa)
University of Indiana
David Lipscomb then NAIA
Grand Valley State
Aquinas
Nazareth (NAIA Kalamazoo, MI college, not current NY college)
Northwestern (NAIA-Iowa)
Salem Va D3 Final Four
Augustana
Centre
Missouri Baptist
McKendree
Missouri Rolla
Missouri-St Louis
Maryville (Mo.)
Iowa Wesleyan
Eureka
Blackburn
MacMurray
Westminster (Mo.)
Greenville
Principia
Webster
Fontbonne
Wash U
Spalding
Denison
Wabash
Millikin
Illinois Wesleyan
Grinnell
Illinois College
Southern Illinois Edwardsville
Western Illinois
Monmouth
Rhodes
Sewanee (stopped in to see the school on way to Florida)
Emory (Son's recruiting trip)
and with 50 years and a lot of games to account for, I may be missing a couple
Winner winner chicken dinner.
hopefan,
An impressive list; do we have to eliminate any that u were ejected from for overzealous behavior? ;)
That's impressive, Hopefan! I bet Toad could give you a run for your money, he's been to a ton.
I've only been to Williams, Amherst, Trinity, Randolph-Macon, Dickinson, UChicago, Hamline, Springfield, UMass-Boston, Washington & Lee, Tufts, Rowan, Mary Washington, Marymount, and of course Salem.
If you are looking at a New England D3 bucket list, the must-sees include Bates (which I've never been to but even on video, it's awesome), Tufts (gorgeous place to watch a game), Springfield (mostly because it's the birthplace of basketball, but also a really quirky gym), and a Williams-Amherst game (and if you go at Williams, check out Lasell, which is a great historic gym).
Mary Washington is easily the most impressive newer facility I've seen.
Quote from: nescac1 on February 08, 2019, 09:34:44 AM
Tufts (gorgeous place to watch a game), Springfield (mostly because it's the birthplace of basketball, but also a really quirky gym),
Tufts is definitely on my list.
From the pictures and video, that gym is truly one of a kind.
Quote from: nescac1 on February 08, 2019, 09:34:44 AM
I've only been to Williams, Amherst, Trinity, Randolph-Macon, Dickinson, UChicago, Hamline, Springfield, UMass-Boston, Washington & Lee, Tufts, Rowan, Mary Washington, Marymount, and of course Salem.
If you are looking at a New England D3 bucket list, the must-sees include Bates (which I've never been to but even on video, it's awesome), Tufts (gorgeous place to watch a game), Springfield (mostly because it's the birthplace of basketball, but also a really quirky gym), and a Williams-Amherst game (and if you go at Williams, check out Lasell, which is a great historic gym).
Nescac, did you like the Hamline gym? It is my favorite MIAC gym. A lot of character and history. Plus it is always incredibly warm, which was always very nice as a player.
I went to Massachusetts recently and I was able to watch a couple games at Springfield. The outside of the gym looks like a mini NBA arena.
(https://www.d3boards.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vatihbqYj2Q%2FUIfaL73PFWI%2FAAAAAAAABSY%2FYNez95wdyH8%2Fs1600%2Fblake_arena01.jpg&hash=07d70744ec530cd24646694abd3e0d92ea99697d)
The gym itself was quirky, but a fun place to take in a game. The Hall of Fame was definitely worth it as well.
I walked around Tufts campus but my was not able to watch a game at their gym, although I did walk in and take a look. Awesome gym, so unique and the new court finish looks very nice. Definitely want to go back and watch a game there.
Here's a bucket list challenge:
While seeing EVERY D3 gym is seemingly unrealistic (but we can dream, can't we)... how about seeing a D3 gym in every state?
Now then, some states would be eliminated because there are no D3 schools in them..
Florida
Montana
Nevada
Utah
Arizona
New Mexico
South Dakota
North Dakota
Wyoming
Hawaii
Alaska
Kansas
Oklahoma
South Carolina
ok... if my list is correct (please correct me if I've got a wrong state listed or if I missed a state), that's 36 states with D3 schools in them..
Ryan Scott, you are our travel expert... this is a trip I'd love to take!!!!!
I don't believe there are any D3 schools in Idaho.
I knew I would miss one!! Thanks Augie.
So that makes 35 states to see a D3 school in!!!
Quote from: ronk on February 08, 2019, 08:45:17 AM
hopefan,
An impressive list; do we have to eliminate any that u were ejected from for overzealous behavior? ;)
😂😂😂
While certainly having been a bit overzealous as a Player and Coach, I calmed down as a fan and spend my energy rooting for a team as compared to yelling at referees. I was never forced to take the walk of shame to the locker room, I did get T'd up several times.. always for sarcasm ( my wife could have called that one) rather than obscenity. 😇
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 11:36:10 AM
I knew I would miss one!! Thanks Augie.
So that makes 35 states to see a D3 school in!!!
Map guys, how long would this take???? Lots of miles and few schools/states out west, but you might be able to knock off 3 per day out east.
Fun project this off season to come up with an itinerary.
I have not seen Division III home games played in these states: Washington, Oregon, California, Louisiana, Nebraska, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina, Vermont, Rhode Island.
I have seen teams from all of these states play elsewhere, except I have never seen a Louisiana D-III team, a West Virginia D-III team or a Rhode Island D-III team play in any state.
(I saw Catholic play at Davidson, so I have at least seen a D-III team play in North Carolina.)
Quote from: Pat Coleman on February 08, 2019, 12:10:06 PM
I have not seen Division III home games played in these states: Washington, Oregon, California, Louisiana, Nebraska, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, North Carolina, Vermont, Rhode Island.
I have seen teams from all of these states play elsewhere, except I have never seen a Louisiana D-III team, a West Virginia D-III team or a Rhode Island D-III team play in any state.
(I saw Catholic play at Davidson, so I have at least seen a D-III team play in North Carolina.)
The fact that I saw a Rhode Island team was a bit of a fluke... We had made the tourney in one of my coaching years, and a potential opponent was Rhode Island College... the Head Coach relaxes at home, the assistant drives everywhere (this was back in the day before videos/internet etc).. so I drove to Providence to see Rhode Island College play...nope, we didn't play them in the tourney...
Oh shoot -- I forgot about Roger Williams. We had them at the D3hoops.com Classic in D.C. in December 2000. Rhode Island box checked.
OH MY GOSH... I realize I forgot on my list... the biggest of the big time that I played against while playing at RPI... yes , my senior year... we opened up at.... GEORGETOWN... no, you witty readers, not Georgetown Kentucky, the Georgetown in the heart of DC .. and amazingly we competed, losing if memory serves me right by 14... we had the guy that I still feel was the best player RPI ever had, Randy Brown, and another 6'7" player Tom Neufer who could play, so we matched size wise pretty well... unfortunately, Randy was in love, transferred after 3 games that season to be at BU with his sweetheart, and our year became buried in mediocrity... but I'll never forget that trip, so big time for us, as it was arranged by alumni... we FLEW, and after the game, we were treated to a light reception, then a tour of the monuments etc at night in automobiles, hosted by an alum... I will update my list!!!
I should add, this was in the days before Patrick Ewing and Coach Thompson... the gym was a relatively small gym, assuming right on campus....
Three distinctive gyms we played in at RPI...
surprisingly... Cornell... back in the 70's the locker room was in a building across the street from the basketball court... you dressed in the locker room, went UNDER the street through a long tunnel which eventually emerged on the court in the other building...
Rochester... the locker room was directly above one end of the court... so the visitors would come out of the locker room directly on to a lengthy staircase that fed you right on to the court...
Brooklyn Poly... an old old building.. you dressed somewhere deep down in the building, wound your way upstairs to the court, which was on top of the building with lots of glass or plastic so that it was bright/glarey on a Saturday afternoon... also, NO stands.. team benches on one side, a couple of benches on the other for spectators... I remember because we always laughed about it... there were 3 spectators at our game...
The most distinctive gym that I played in and the mecca of college basketball - the U of Penn Palestra as part of a tripleheader. After a pregame meal in the Penn athletic dining facility, the Scranton frosh played the Temple frosh in the opener(this Temple team would play in the NIT when they were seniors), Scranton vs Temple in the 2nd game(62-71), and a big 5 clash in the nightcap, St. Joseph(with Jimmy Lynam(future NBA coach)) vs Penn(with John Wideman(future Pulitzer Prize(literature) winner)).
It was the top thrill of my 1-year collegiate career, seeing how the other half of college basketball lived.
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 12:51:52 PM
OH MY GOSH... I realize I forgot on my list... the biggest of the big time that I played against while playing at RPI... yes , my senior year... we opened up at.... GEORGETOWN... no, you witty readers, not Georgetown Kentucky, the Georgetown in the heart of DC .. and amazingly we competed, losing if memory serves me right by 14... we had the guy that I still feel was the best player RPI ever had, Randy Brown, and another 6'7" player Tom Neufer who could play, so we matched size wise pretty well... unfortunately, Randy was in love, transferred after 3 games that season to be at BU with his sweetheart, and our year became buried in mediocrity... but I'll never forget that trip, so big time for us, as it was arranged by alumni... we FLEW, and after the game, we were treated to a light reception, then a tour of the monuments etc at night in automobiles, hosted by an alum... I will update my list!!!
I should add, this was in the days before Patrick Ewing and Coach Thompson... the gym was a relatively small gym, assuming right on campus....
hopefan,
The score was 62-52 Georgetown, in on campus McDonough Gym. This was the 1st game of the season; the last game of the previous season for Georgetown was against LSU and Pete Maravich in the NIT. So, they went from defending Pete to defending you. Probably used the same game plan. ::)
Quote from: ronk on February 08, 2019, 02:13:10 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 12:51:52 PM
OH MY GOSH... I realize I forgot on my list... the biggest of the big time that I played against while playing at RPI... yes , my senior year... we opened up at.... GEORGETOWN... no, you witty readers, not Georgetown Kentucky, the Georgetown in the heart of DC .. and amazingly we competed, losing if memory serves me right by 14... we had the guy that I still feel was the best player RPI ever had, Randy Brown, and another 6'7" player Tom Neufer who could play, so we matched size wise pretty well... unfortunately, Randy was in love, transferred after 3 games that season to be at BU with his sweetheart, and our year became buried in mediocrity... but I'll never forget that trip, so big time for us, as it was arranged by alumni... we FLEW, and after the game, we were treated to a light reception, then a tour of the monuments etc at night in automobiles, hosted by an alum... I will update my list!!!
I should add, this was in the days before Patrick Ewing and Coach Thompson... the gym was a relatively small gym, assuming right on campus....
hopefan,
The score was 62-52 Georgetown, in on campus McDonough Gym. This was the 1st game of the season; the last game of the previous season for Georgetown was against LSU and Pete Maravich in the NIT. So, they went from defending Pete to defending you. Probably used the same game plan. ::)
Ronk almost single digits!!!! hopefan was held to 4 that night, on a couple of pretty nifty drives to the hoop... unfortunately, I can also remember a little guard driving by me numerous times and dishing to the big men, or hitting a jump shot... Well, at least my hair flopped around like Pistols back in those days...
That's the first reference to Pistol Pete Maravich I've ever seen that contained the word "flop" that didn't make reference to his trademark floppy socks.
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 01:04:25 PMBrooklyn Poly... an old old building.. you dressed somewhere deep down in the building, wound your way upstairs to the court, which was on top of the building with lots of glass or plastic so that it was bright/glarey on a Saturday afternoon... also, NO stands.. team benches on one side, a couple of benches on the other for spectators... I remember because we always laughed about it... there were 3 spectators at our game...
The smallest and quirkiest college "gym" at which I've seen a game was at Northeastern Illinois University, back before the school built a legit gym and went first D2 and then D1 in the early '90s. (It then abruptly eliminated sports altogether while the 1996-97 school year was still in session.) Back in the early part of the 1987-88 season, when NEIU was an NAIA program, I walked the six blocks from my apartment to NEIU to see the Golden Eagles host Augustana. It was the first (and last) time I had ever seen a game there, and I had to ask a janitor where the gym was located.
As it turned out, it really wasn't a gym. It was more like a wide spot in a hallway. In fact, it barely qualified as a court, as I'm pretty sure that it had the same shortened dimensions as the Holland Civic Center. It was sunk into the floor on one side of the hallway, and you simply walked down three steps from the hallway onto the floor. Those three steps, which ran the length of the court and had no railing separating them from the hallway, doubled as the stands. The walls on the other three sides barely had enough room between them and the court for wall mats to cushion the frequent collisions when players ran, slid, or fell into the walls. I think that the two teams used classrooms that had locks on the doors as locker rooms. And the capper was that the entire facility -- hallway, steps, and court -- consisted of white linoleum.
Augustana beat NEIU that afternoon, 108-81, and the attendance was listed at 25 people. Whoever did the head count was clearly including coaches, players, refs, and table, because the only three people who should've counted in the attendance figure were myself and the two parents of an Augustana reserve who were sitting on those linoleum steps.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 01:04:25 PMBrooklyn Poly... an old old building.. you dressed somewhere deep down in the building, wound your way upstairs to the court, which was on top of the building with lots of glass or plastic so that it was bright/glarey on a Saturday afternoon... also, NO stands.. team benches on one side, a couple of benches on the other for spectators... I remember because we always laughed about it... there were 3 spectators at our game...
The smallest and quirkiest college "gym" at which I've seen a game was at Northeastern Illinois University, back before the school built a legit gym and went first D2 and then D1 in the early '90s. (It then abruptly eliminated sports altogether while the 1996-97 school year was still in session.) Back in the early part of the 1987-88 season, when NEIU was an NAIA program, I walked the six blocks from my apartment to NEIU to see the Golden Eagles host Augustana. It was the first (and last) time I had ever seen a game there, and I had to ask a janitor where the gym was located.
As it turned out, it really wasn't a gym. It was more like a wide spot in a hallway. In fact, it barely qualified as a court, as I'm pretty sure that it had the same shortened dimensions as the Holland Civic Center. It was sunk into the floor on one side of the hallway, and you simply walked down three steps from the hallway onto the floor. Those three steps, which ran the length of the court and had no railing separating them from the hallway, doubled as the stands. The walls on the other three sides barely had enough room between them and the court for wall mats to cushion the frequent collisions when players ran, slid, or fell into the walls. I think that the two teams used classrooms that had locks on the doors as locker rooms. And the capper was that the entire facility -- hallway, steps, and court -- consisted of white linoleum.
Augustana beat NEIU that afternoon, 108-81, and the attendance was listed at 25 people. Whoever did the head count was clearly including coaches, players, refs, and table, because the only three people who should've counted in the attendance figure were myself and the two parents of an Augustana reserve who were sitting on those linoleum steps.
Beautiful.. wish we had a picture...
I know many of us have played in high school gyms that were incredibly quirky... I can tell some stories about some that I've played in, or seen games in, but we'll wait for the off season....one in particular is so unreal, I'd love to have someone from that era verify it for me to make sure I'm not remembering a dream...
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 08, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Quote from: hopefan on February 08, 2019, 01:04:25 PMBrooklyn Poly... an old old building.. you dressed somewhere deep down in the building, wound your way upstairs to the court, which was on top of the building with lots of glass or plastic so that it was bright/glarey on a Saturday afternoon... also, NO stands.. team benches on one side, a couple of benches on the other for spectators... I remember because we always laughed about it... there were 3 spectators at our game...
The smallest and quirkiest college "gym" at which I've seen a game was at Northeastern Illinois University, back before the school built a legit gym and went first D2 and then D1 in the early '90s. (It then abruptly eliminated sports altogether while the 1996-97 school year was still in session.) Back in the early part of the 1987-88 season, when NEIU was an NAIA program, I walked the six blocks from my apartment to NEIU to see the Golden Eagles host Augustana. It was the first (and last) time I had ever seen a game there, and I had to ask a janitor where the gym was located.
As it turned out, it really wasn't a gym. It was more like a wide spot in a hallway. In fact, it barely qualified as a court, as I'm pretty sure that it had the same shortened dimensions as the Holland Civic Center. It was sunk into the floor on one side of the hallway, and you simply walked down three steps from the hallway onto the floor. Those three steps, which ran the length of the court and had no railing separating them from the hallway, doubled as the stands. The walls on the other three sides barely had enough room between them and the court for wall mats to cushion the frequent collisions when players ran, slid, or fell into the walls. I think that the two teams used classrooms that had locks on the doors as locker rooms. And the capper was that the entire facility -- hallway, steps, and court -- consisted of white linoleum.
Augustana beat NEIU that afternoon, 108-81, and the attendance was listed at 25 people. Whoever did the head count was clearly including coaches, players, refs, and table, because the only three people who should've counted in the attendance figure were myself and the two parents of an Augustana reserve who were sitting on those linoleum steps.
Beautiful.. wish we had a picture...
I know many of us have played in high school gyms that were incredibly quirky... I can tell some stories about some that I've played in, or seen games in, but we'll wait for the off season....one in particular is so unreal, I'd love to have someone from that era verify it for me to make sure I'm not remembering a dream...
Just two Augustana fans at a game in Chicago?? Those were lean times for Augie, but I'd expect more parents, at the very least. I'm not challenging your credibility. Just wondering if there were other extenuating circumstances. I've never seen Augustana play a game in Illinois with less than a couple dozen fans, be they parents, girlfriends, or other close friends. Without checking the 1987-88 roster I'm fairly certain most of the players would have hailed from within an our of NEIU.
Quote from: augie77 on February 08, 2019, 04:32:17 PMJust two Augustana fans at a game in Chicago?? Those were lean times for Augie, but I'd expect more parents, at the very least. I'm not challenging your credibility. Just wondering if there were other extenuating circumstances.
They probably didn't bump into the janitor who knew where the "gym" was located. ;)
So my mostly updated list includes having seen in person (minimum a half) 176 MBB and 111 WBB teams and been in 45 gyms for a game - though, I am still finding ones I forgot about and need to add, that continues to grow.
I've seen games in (12) states: Maryland, Virginia, Washington (DC), Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Georgia (Final Four), Ohio, Michigan, Illinois (nearly Iowa LOL), Texas, and Las Vegas (ha!).
I have seen teams from (32) states: Maryland (all teams), Virginia, Washington (DC), Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Delaware, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, Minnesota, Alabama, Iowa, Wisconsin, Vermont, North Carolina, Washington, Oregon, California, Nebraska, Mississippi, Kentucky, Indiana, New Hampshire, Arkansas, Missouri, Rhode Island.
Sheesh ... maybe I need to find a new hobby.
Hope to grow that "seen games IN" category a bit more in the next year or two.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 08, 2019, 05:46:39 PM
So my mostly updated list includes having seen in person (minimum a half) 176 MBB and 111 WBB teams and been in 45 gyms for a game - though, I am still finding ones I forgot about and need to add, that continues to grow.
I've seen games in (12) states: Maryland, Virginia, Washington (DC), Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Georgia (Final Four), Ohio, Michigan, Illinois (nearly Iowa LOL), Texas, and Las Vegas (ha!).
I have seen teams from (32) states: Maryland (all teams), Virginia, Washington (DC), Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Georgia, Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Delaware, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, Minnesota, Alabama, Iowa, Wisconsin, Vermont, North Carolina, Washington, Oregon, California, Nebraska, Mississippi, Kentucky, Indiana, New Hampshire, Arkansas, Missouri, Rhode Island.
Sheesh ... maybe I need to find a new hobby.
Hope to grow that "seen games IN" category a bit more in the next year or two.
Las Vegas isn't a state. LOL ??? ::) :P ;D :D
This is true ... I am clearly very tired and my sleep deprived brain is not working.
SMH
Hate to revive and old thread but it is actually the best place to put out the message I wanted to send. The-person-known-on-these-boards as KnightSlappy and I launched a D3 basketball youtube show last month (link in the sig) and one of the topics we discussed for this time leading up to the new season is a D3 basketball bucket list. We have been trying to solicit feedback for that via the YT channel and twitter but wanted to put out the call here as well as we know not everyone is connected on those platforms.
We got started with a few items of our own and some feedback from others already but are looking for as much input to consider as possible. If you have a game, venue, event, etc. you think is essential bucket list material for any D3 basketball fan please send me a private message this week and we will be sure to add it to the list. Thanks!
Quote from: ziggy on September 26, 2022, 02:27:59 PM
Hate to revive and old thread but it is actually the best place to put out the message I wanted to send. The-person-known-on-these-boards as KnightSlappy and I launched a D3 basketball youtube show last month (link in the sig) and one of the topics we discussed for this time leading up to the new season is a D3 basketball bucket list. We have been trying to solicit feedback for that via the YT channel and twitter but wanted to put out the call here as well as we know not everyone is connected on those platforms.
We got started with a few items of our own and some feedback from others already but are looking for as much input to consider as possible. If you have a game, venue, event, etc. you think is essential bucket list material for any D3 basketball fan please send me a private message this week and we will be sure to add it to the list. Thanks!
Good stuff. Try to promote this on other boards too!
I definitely think a game at Westminster College (MO) should be on the bucket list. The gym was built in 1929 and from the looks of it, has yet to be updated. Obviously, the site of the Winston Churchill "Iron Curtain" speech.
Quote from: WUPHF on September 26, 2022, 04:59:50 PM
I definitely think a game at Westminster College (MO) should be on the bucket list. The gym was built in 1929 and from the looks of it, has yet to be updated. Obviously, the site of the Winston Churchill "Iron Curtain" speech.
I agree. Given the character of that gym, I think it should be left alone, other than maybe some fresh paint and occasional floor refinishing.
I was at an afternoon game there years ago and I got to wondering how the amount of natural light coming in through the large windows affects the players, especially the visiting players who don't experience that very often.
Not many Division III gyms on the National Register of Historic Places, but the Westminster gym can make that claim.
A quick Google and Wikipedia search reveals that there are a few others including Maryville College, Ohio Wesleyan, Smith, Stevens Institute of Technology.
Thanks to everyone who helped out with ideas for the bucket list. The episode was released this morning: https://youtu.be/RDx-bUyKChE (https://youtu.be/RDx-bUyKChE)
https://landmarkconference.org/news/2022/9/27/09282022-lc-bball-palestra.aspx
This seems like a big deal.