Karin Harvey(Chairman) on Hoopsville talking about hosting in the tournament:
In a perfect world, it would be nice(affected by geography) to have 2 teams from each region hosting; there wasn't any mention of the best 16 teams hosting as has been mentioned somewhere previously on these chat boards.
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2020, 01:22:55 AM
Karin Harvey(Chairman) on Hoopsville talking about hosting in the tournament:
In a perfect world, it would be nice(affected by geography) to have 2 teams from each region hosting; there wasn't any mention of the best 16 teams hosting as has been mentioned somewhere previously on these chat boards.
The men's committee has vocalized that notion, but the women tend to stick to a regional alignment, where geography allows.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 28, 2020, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2020, 01:22:55 AM
Karin Harvey(Chairman) on Hoopsville talking about hosting in the tournament:
In a perfect world, it would be nice(affected by geography) to have 2 teams from each region hosting; there wasn't any mention of the best 16 teams hosting as has been mentioned somewhere previously on these chat boards.
The men's committee has vocalized that notion, but the women tend to stick to a regional alignment, where geography allows.
Yes ... let's not take one conversation in the men's side and bring it into the women's side. I am quite confident where I was talking about "top 16" it was on a men's chat.
The women have never been necessarily tenets of that thinking ... so I wouldn't bring it up in a women's conversation.
As we have discussed on the show numerous times, the men's and women's committees have their own ways of doing some things. They are not lock step with each other and when one does something different the other follows. Thus why the women don't have a home and away multiplier on their SOS, they also don't see the criteria in the same way (women tend to bring in the better WL% over a stronger SOS more times than not; men have sided with a stronger SOS, but that is starting to wane), and when it comes to bracketing they have different philosophies.
You will see me ask one or the other about different ideas the other group might have, but you won't ever see us combine the thinking.
Wasn't aware that there was a gender difference wrt hosting.
Quote from: ronk on February 28, 2020, 01:33:38 PM
Wasn't aware that there was a gender difference wrt hosting.
ronk - there is a women's national committee ... and a men's national committee ... they have their own philosophies when it comes to how they run their tournaments.
Pretty much the same in every sport in the NCAA except maybe M&W Soccer in DIII.
Many moons ago the women's committee built their bracket around by determining who the best 8 teams were and then trying to slot everyone else around them. There wasn't a geographic requirement to the selection (i.e. it wasn't the top team from each of the eight regions). The committee membership has totally changed since then and the bracketing philosophy has, too.
Part of the fun is seeing how the approach evolves as the membership changes. I personally like the approach above better than trying to find two hosts in every region, but to each their own.
Ronk agree one hundred percent.Maybe like Karen hinted get rid of those Sunday games so the committee doesn't rush thru the process that would give them that whole day Sunday because all games would be done by Saturday they do have all the Paper work in front of them.She said that they have the final regional rankings that Sunday so why would that be a problem having the top 16 teams.It is truly a shame when you have teams keep running into each other in the tournament like Cabrini,CNU,Tufts,Bowdoin etc playingbScranton almost every year I like when they rotated the regions every year like played rochester,Baldwin Wallace,Rowan,Cof NJ.Not surebit we have been stuck with Tufts the last 3 or 4 years(Scranton)
Quote from: Rofrog on February 28, 2020, 08:10:33 PM
Ronk agree one hundred percent.Maybe like Karen hinted get rid of those Sunday games so the committee doesn't rush thru the process that would give them that whole day Sunday because all games would be done by Saturday they do have all the Paper work in front of them.She said that they have the final regional rankings that Sunday so why would that be a problem having the top 16 teams.It is truly a shame when you have teams keep running into each other in the tournament like Cabrini,CNU,Tufts,Bowdoin etc playingbScranton almost every year I like when they rotated the regions every year like played rochester,Baldwin Wallace,Rowan,Cof NJ.Not surebit we have been stuck with Tufts the last 3 or 4 years(Scranton)
You are combining three very different things - maybe four - here as if they are all the same thing or the same topic.
Yes, Karin (and others) commented that Sunday conference tournaments games are problematic. More than anything,
when those games are played on Sundays. But she never said - and I have never had it said to me on or off the record - that the committee rushes through the work ... selections or bracketing. They absolutely don't. What those games on Sunday cause is a lack of being able to work knowing for sure something could change due to an outcome of a game still happening. They may have made a few decisions only to have all that work undone because of a surprise outcome.
The committee ends up working a LOT of hours on Sunday alone. There are some occasions I know they have worked until after midnight ET getting it all done.
Sure ... they could try and select a Top 16 if they want. But that again, has nothing to do with Sunday games or anything else. That comes down to a philosophy. The committee chooses not to select their Top 16 (based on the criteria, not polls and NOT who are the top two in ever region - not all regions are equal). That simply is their way of doing things. I believe they will have a host from each region at minimum ... they may have more, but there are a lot of things that will decide that other than just having the second ranked team in a region host.
And as for the "shame when you have teams keep running into each other in the tournament" ... that has nothing to do with Sunday games, how much time they spend on the selections and brackets, nor if they have a "top 16" if they want it. It has to do with geography. The men have the same problem.
But the women have a bigger thing at play than the men ... a lack of parity. The same programs are always in the upper one or two tiers in Division III women's basketball year in and year out. As a result, it is hard to find anything different when the same teams are always in the second weekend, for example. The same teams are always making the second weekend! The committee can't suddenly get Scranton to play George Fox in the opening weekend because they have a Top 16 ... but because geography and the budgetary limits of the bracket won't allow it.
Cabrini, CNU, Tufts, Bowdoin, etc. are teams that can get to Scranton (and vis versa). And rotating regions won't change this. That ONLY affects the final four. (Rotating regions also creates boring early games of only in-region games.) It would be nice if Scranton and Hope could play earlier than the final four for a change, but the two schools are 679 miles apart. Scranton and DePauw? 696 miles. You know who can get to Hope and DePauw without any travel limitations? Rochester. Thus why Rochester is likely to get bracketed with those Great Lakes teams and Scranton does not. (Though, interestingly Rochester hasn't played GL teams in their last three tournaments; they played Atlantic, Mid-Atlantic, Northeast, and East teams ... same as Scranton.)
Now Baldwin Wallace v Scranton would be a nice idea ... but we are talking about the second weekend more likely. No one would want to see that in the opening weekend as all of these programs we are talking about deserve to have that as a "down the road" game, not a first two rounds game.
And yes, Scranton has played Tufts three of the last four years ... that's because the programs have been good. Twice in the quarterfinals and once in the round prior. Again ... lack of parity and geography play a role.
There is only so much a committee can do. We do push and request more creativity when it applies ... but even we know there are limitations.
Guessing the 4 seeds will be Hope and Depauw on 1 side w Amherst in Depauw's bracket and Tufts and Bowdoin on the other side. Will Scranton meet Tufts for the 4th time in 5 years? Things could set up that way.
Each year like to propose a Scranton regional of teams with prospects from my AAU evaluation sessions; this year would like to include CNU(2), Ithaca(3), SUNY-Geneseo(2). Sectional weekend could choose among Amherst(4), Tufts(4), Bowdoin(2), Messiah(1), SUNY-New Paltz(1).
from projected bracket 1, who are the other 2 teams in Marymount pod?
Sorry about that.
As you've probably seen, it was Montclair versus Ohio Northern.
VERY surprised that George Fox flying to DC to play in first round. is this new trend?
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 03:05:48 PM
VERY surprised that George Fox flying to DC to play in first round. is this new trend?
They sent all three west coast teams cross-country. No idea why, normally there would be a west coast pod and one team would be flown out there.
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
Agreed. I'm not sure if Wheaton can take down Whitman. But I'm looking forward to playing a team we likely haven't played in a while or maybe not ever.
I think the bracket is really good.
I am very surprised 24-3 Ben U with the weak SOS getting in over Augsburg, Ohio Northern. But then they do take 19-7 LaCrosse obviously compelled by the strong SOS? That might bear some discussion and Q/A with whoever the committee guest is tonight?
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
so lack of West coast teams in 64 selection created the possibility of flying airplane matchup. but flying across 3 time zones is hard on body rhythm for any athlete and expensive flight.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
so lack of West coast teams in 64 selection created the possibility of flying airplane matchup. but flying across 3 time zones is hard on body rhythm for any athlete and expensive flight.
But if you look at the 3 flights, they can fly into major airport hubs. Keeps the cost down.
Except the Middle Atlantic 3 teams are from Middle Atlantic Scranton,Widener,CNU,Endicott the only team not in the MA!smh
Quote from: CNU85 on March 02, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
so lack of West coast teams in 64 selection created the possibility of flying airplane matchup. but flying across 3 time zones is hard on body rhythm for any athlete and expensive flight.
But if you look at the 3 flights, they can fly into major airport hubs. Keeps the cost down.
What is the major airport hub for Wartburg? Asking for a friend.
Is it listed anywhere what each teams record is against other teams in the tournament?
That isn't something that people generally compile, and with 43 automatic bids, I'd guess that stat isn't very meaningful.
Quote from: Baldini on March 02, 2020, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 02, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
so lack of West coast teams in 64 selection created the possibility of flying airplane matchup. but flying across 3 time zones is hard on body rhythm for any athlete and expensive flight.
But if you look at the 3 flights, they can fly into major airport hubs. Keeps the cost down.
What is the major airport hub for Wartburg? Asking for a friend.
Cedar Rapids is about hour and a half away. Des Moines a little farther.
When will game times be listed. Men's were put out quite quickly.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 11:14:24 PM
When will game times be listed. Men's were put out quite quickly.
Trinity (TX) posted theirs (Friday 5pm CT AC-UMHB, 7:30pm TU-UTD, winners Saturday 7:00pm). Maybe check with your regional host's web site, I would imagine others have done the same even if the NCAA hasn't updated the official bracket yet.
Regional rankings are out; they have a line under which it states no at-large teams were selected; however, in the MA Gettysburg was selected.
Would like opinions, was it Gettysburg over Augsburg for final selection? Since Gettysburg was below regional rankings line
Quote from: Baldini on March 02, 2020, 07:35:56 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 02, 2020, 04:18:17 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 04:12:55 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 02, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
They would've needed two flights for a West coast pod (Redlands can't drive there) but, yeah, that's the usual set up. They did a nice job separating conference foes and getting West Coast teams back East for fun match ups.
so lack of West coast teams in 64 selection created the possibility of flying airplane matchup. but flying across 3 time zones is hard on body rhythm for any athlete and expensive flight.
But if you look at the 3 flights, they can fly into major airport hubs. Keeps the cost down.
What is the major airport hub for Wartburg? Asking for a friend.
oops. Missed that one. But in order to help out your friend I did some research. This place even has a courtesy car and a public telephone..
https://swieteraircraft.com/ (https://swieteraircraft.com/)
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 02, 2020, 11:58:59 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 02, 2020, 11:14:24 PM
When will game times be listed. Men's were put out quite quickly.
Trinity (TX) posted theirs (Friday 5pm CT AC-UMHB, 7:30pm TU-UTD, winners Saturday 7:00pm). Maybe check with your regional host's web site, I would imagine others have done the same even if the NCAA hasn't updated the official bracket yet.
The men's committee is always on top of game times. The women's tournament is a little more laissez-faire in such regards. I checked every team website last night before bed for updates and we had fewer than half of the games set.
Scranton just posted 5pm and 7pm Friday
Awesome, thanks for the info!
Does NCAA give any guidance to schools hosting events about cancellations due to COVID-19? With many industry conferences getting canceled, only a matter of time Universities will have to consider postponing sporting events.
Not yet -- only yesterday did the NCAA announce its COVID-19 task force.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 04, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
Does NCAA give any guidance to schools hosting events about cancellations due to COVID-19? With many industry conferences getting canceled, only a matter of time Universities will have to consider postponing sporting events.
More likely that they'd play with no fans? Not unprecedented....
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 04, 2020, 07:59:24 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 04, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
Does NCAA give any guidance to schools hosting events about cancellations due to COVID-19? With many industry conferences getting canceled, only a matter of time Universities will have to consider postponing sporting events.
More likely that they'd play with no fans? Not unprecedented....
is this a rumor or actually something NCAA is thinking about doing for March Madness? would airlines allow JUST players to travel to game where there would be no fans?
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 04, 2020, 09:27:44 PM
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 04, 2020, 07:59:24 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 04, 2020, 01:23:02 PM
Does NCAA give any guidance to schools hosting events about cancellations due to COVID-19? With many industry conferences getting canceled, only a matter of time Universities will have to consider postponing sporting events.
More likely that they'd play with no fans? Not unprecedented....
is this a rumor or actually something NCAA is thinking about doing for March Madness? would airlines allow JUST players to travel to game where there would be no fans?
I think the fact other countries have been putting on sporting events with no fans make it something to consider.
Creative camera work makes these early round games seem like the buildings have a lot of fans when in reality they tend to be rather sparse anyway.
Gordon Mann's women's tourney preview is up: https://d3hoops.com/playoffs/women/2020/tournament-preview
Thank you, Gordon!
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Will NCAA give Amherst host if they close gym to fans?
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 07, 2020, 04:44:38 PM
Will NCAA give Amherst host if they close gym to fans?
I have no idea if they will take this into account, but I do hope they consider it.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 07, 2020, 04:46:05 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 07, 2020, 04:44:38 PM
Will NCAA give Amherst host if they close gym to fans?
I have no idea if they will take this into account, but I do hope they consider it.
I too hope NCAA considers takes this into account bot also
why a potential host might close a gym.
So...by my count there's 6 flights needed for next weekend which seems like an awfully high number. 3 out of 4 teams will have to fly to the host in the bottom left, and George Fox, MHB and Newport will all have to fly to Amherst (though if George Fox is staying east they'll probably just bus up to Amherst, but does that count towards the bean counters??)
Also, what are the odds the NESCAC hosts 3 of the 4 pods next weekend?? Tufts in the upper left is a given, and Amherst in the upper right is almost a given. I have a feeling the only reason Oglethorpe didn't host this past weekend was because Randolph-Macon checked in at over 500 miles while R-M clocked in at just under 500 to Transy, so if I had to guess Ogle gets the hosting edge over Bowdoin for that part of the bracket. Hope is easily hosting the bottom right.
Amherst barred fans because of COVID-19 precautions. Highly doubt by next Friday administration would change barring fans again this friday. George Fox flew back to OR.
Selecting host that NCAA knows will very likely bar fans that weekend is not good PR.
This is going to far with this covid-19 let the fans decide if they want to attend not the Colleges.I understand this is big hype.They never closed when the flu or any other disease came out just relax and let the people decide instead of getting your name in the news !!!
Quote from: Rofrog on March 08, 2020, 12:35:59 AM
This is going to far with this covid-19 let the fans decide if they want to attend not the Colleges.I understand this is big hype.They never closed when the flu or any other disease came out just relax and let the people decide instead of getting your name in the news !!!
Some college do close down for really bad flu viruses. We had a three day sick break when I was in school.
Did it stop the virus???
MBB announced hosts and times quickly even with significant changes. NCAA using entire clock to announce WBB times and hosts.
they should have put William's in with Hope maybe Nescac would have had Four host sites!!!
So...just my 2 cents here:
I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...
....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators. These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games. You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox). It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line. If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution. I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section. These kids deserve better! Very bad decision by the NCAA!
Well said!!!
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators? I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online. Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in". what you do not have any fans in area? why?
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators? I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online. Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in". what you do not have any fans in area? why?
We announced it fairly promptly on the front page of D3hoops.com.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators? I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online. Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in". what you do not have any fans in area? why?
A lot more support for the CNU men's team then, I guess.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2020, 05:08:01 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 08, 2020, 05:01:06 PM
anyone know WHEN Amherst College will make decision about spectators? I am sure no fans from the other 3 teams will book plane tickets to Bradley International just so they MAY get into gym but most likely watch online. Amherst should just wait again until 90 minutes before tip-off and then decide, "fans can come in". what you do not have any fans in area? why?
We announced it fairly promptly on the front page of D3hoops.com.
I saw it right after I typed that. great perspective from Hoopsville about other 3 teams taking stance against Amherst hosting. gutsy of UMHB coach with that quote but true statement. I hope NCAA executives make right decision to move host site.
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Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:
I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...
....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators. These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games. You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox). It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line. If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution. I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section. These kids deserve better! Very bad decision by the NCAA!
Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon. CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:
I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...
....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators. These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games. You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox). It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line. If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution. I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section. These kids deserve better! Very bad decision by the NCAA!
Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon. CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.
They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:
I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...
....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators. These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games. You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox). It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line. If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution. I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section. These kids deserve better! Very bad decision by the NCAA!
Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon. CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.
They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.
Seems like they decided yesterday. Unless you are saying they are rethinking...which I doubt.
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 09, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 09, 2020, 08:56:15 AM
Quote from: 7express on March 08, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
So...just my 2 cents here:
I'll give Amherst the benefit of the doubt for the first round games not having spectators because that case/decision came out the day before, so teams were already at Amherst/on the way there, too big of a hassle to move it to a different site that would allow spectators, just like Hopkins on the men side...
....However I have a BIG problem with them getting to host again and still not allow spectators. These are sweet 16 and elite 8 games. You have a team coming to Amherst that's traveling about 1,500 miles (Mary Hardin Baylor), and another that's traveling about 2,500 miles (George Fox). It's unfair for those 2 teams to play in front of an empty gym with so much on the line. If the NCAA has these restrictions on D3 instituations whether it be the 500 mile rule or the same school can't host both men's and women's games in the same around then they should have a rule in place where if they know beforehand a school won't allow spectators then they should be disqualified as a host institution. I mean no disrespect to Amherst who deserve to host, but I'm sorry if Tufts get shafted and has to play round 1 on the road due to the Jumbos men hosting, if the Texas teams, and usually the west coast teams share a pod due to the 500 mile rule than Mary Hardin Baylor or Christopher Newport should be hosting that section. These kids deserve better! Very bad decision by the NCAA!
Agreed! And since the CNU men are hosting their game this weekend, then the game should be in Texas or Oregon. CNU could easily handle the women's games but let's spread the fun. This would have been a perfect time to reward a Texas or West Coast team for all the post season scheduling dues they pay.
They have to decide today, though, to get all the flights done.
Seems like they decided yesterday. Unless you are saying they are rethinking...which I doubt.
As we reported on Hoopsville (I thought you listened to the show!), there are meetings taking place today (Monday) to discuss this situation.
There are likely several options on the table:
- keep it at Amherst as it is
- keep Amherst as the host, but move it to a facility off-campus so fans can attend (even another institution nearby)
- move the games to another one of the hosts
--- CNU an option, but likely would mean moving the games to Saturday/Sunday because of the men's schedule (would also have to be a one-time, emergency allowance out of the "no double-hosting at one school" rule)
--- Move it to either UMHB or George Fox
I am told the meetings with at least some individuals involved was moved from this morning to this afternoon. That meeting has not taken place as of yet. I know other meetings (conference calls) had been going on this morning, but I am not aware of what decisions or conversations specifically took place.
I actually had to miss the Hoopsville. Had to be a good host at home. Out of town guests. I hope you don't hate me! ;D ;D
The best option is obviously CNU! ;D
I'm willing to bet it doesn't happen at CNU. ;)
It likely won't...wouldn't be surprised if they just change the venue to somewhere near Amherst.
Dave says the NCAA did exactly what you would expect them to do, hold it at Amherst despite nobody being able to attend. https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1237119052553818122
Yep that's the word I got. That's just plain ridiculous.
I will put this tinfoil fitted cap on backwards and further suggest that Amherst quietly threatened to embarrass the NCAA and sow chaos by not sending the team at all if they were not selected to host.
This decision once again proves that just when you think an ounce of common sense has made it's way to NCAA leadership, nonsense like this happens.
Having these kids held hostage by an internal decision by Amherst is just plain wrong.
Amherst has every right to do what they think is right for their school & their students.
However, once that decision impacts 3 other schools from across the country, then all bets should be off the table for hosting rights & the games should be moved.
Have family & friends that have followed you all year fly across the country to sit in a hotel room 10 miles from the games & watch on a computer.
How freakin fan friendly can you get?
I wonder if UConn will close the doors tonight?
Quote from: saratoga on March 09, 2020, 06:53:48 PM
This decision once again proves that just when you think an ounce of common sense has made it's way to NCAA leadership, nonsense like this happens.
Having these kids held hostage by an internal decision by Amherst is just plain wrong.
Amherst has every right to do what they think is right for their school & their students.
However, once that decision impacts 3 other schools from across the country, then all bets should be off the table for hosting rights & the games should be moved.
Have family & friends that have followed you all year fly across the country to sit in a hotel room 10 miles from the games & watch on a computer.
How freakin fan friendly can you get?
I wonder if UConn will close the doors tonight?
100% agree with you. I would like to understand the "why" of the NCAA keeping Amherst as the host.
you know NCAA will NOT bar fans to D1 Men's March Madness games. money means everything to top brass in making decisions. with all that is invested with TV rights, venues, etc. no way the "worst case scenario" as NCAA top medical officer says will EVER occur
I'm really astounded by this decision and the inflexibility. To me it is indefensible that Amherst and AD Don Faulstick did not withdraw their request to host this weekend knowing their no spectator policy. In fact I find it hard to believe that they still wish to host at all? It seems totally out of bounds for the NCAA to allow them to do so.
UMHB, George Fox, and CNU fans and parents deserve an explanation on why the venue couldn't be switched.
Great point...on behalf of all the other teams that would love to host, Amherst should have done the classy thing & pulled the request given their circumstances.
As only they could...the NCAA has turned what should be a truly exciting experience for all these kids into nothing more than a scrimmage with consequences.
Unbelievable!
https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1237129438304915458/photo/1
Unacceptable . . .
great point on AD withdrawing hosting request (do this request after each weekend?). the narrative, Amherst could care less about visiting teams parents at all BUT likes big edge of having home court. need to make sure to gain edge to get to final 4 but screw the other teams. if this was about player safety, they would request COVID-19 testing of all participants before this weekend.
This will be remembered by other conferences for awhile. The other coaches even outside the 3 visiting teams have taken note of the unfairness.
If they're this concerned, though, what's the best way to protect their team? At home; empty gym.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2020, 11:05:38 AM
If they're this concerned, though, what's the best way to protect their team? At home; empty gym.
The best way to protect their team, if they are that concerned, is to send them home like they are all their other students. https://whdh.com/news/amherst-college-cancels-class-for-remainder-of-semester-amid-coronavirus-outbreak/
As an Amherst fan and supporter I'm totally embarrassed for the school and their team. NCAA should change immediately the location. Lots of gyms in Boston and Hartford area that could host.
From the NCAA WBB Manual:
Section 2•4 Site Selection
The championships committee has prioritized the following site-selection criteria for all championships:
1. Complete bid;
2. Quality and availability of the facility and other necessary accommodations;
3. Geographical location (which may include such factors as rotation of sites, weather, accessibility and transportation costs);
4. Seeding; and
5. Attendance history and revenue potential, which shall be considered necessary to assure fiscal responsibility.
So all that totally went out the window . . .
Quote from: GoPerry on March 10, 2020, 12:22:09 PM
https://twitter.com/d3hoopsville/status/1237411778541367297
Tufts now . . . is this a NESCAC thing?
Bowdoin not far behind?
Other schools have also done it, including DePauw.
https://twitter.com/DePauwAthletics/status/1237194739427966977?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
West Nile
Swine Flu
Ebola
SARS
E Coli
COVID-19
and somehow we figure it out.
We're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Amherst got the ball rolling, many others at all levels are following. Ivy League tournaments are canceled and all Ivy League spring football practices are as well. Harvard, Princeton, and Ohio State are going to online classes, and buzz is that Syracuse is about to do the same. The dominoes are falling.
Interesting approach by RPI. Suspended in person classes and events except there is a specific carve out to continue NCAA events:
"Effective immediately, and until further notice, we are suspending all university-sponsored events, including events sponsored by student organizations. At this time, NCAA competitions will be allowed according to previously promulgated guidance."
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 01:24:41 PM
We're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. Amherst got the ball rolling, many others at all levels are following. Ivy League tournaments are canceled and all Ivy League spring football practices are as well. Harvard, Princeton, and Ohio State are going to online classes, and buzz is that Syracuse is about to do the same. The dominoes are falling.
Meanwhile, Big Ten and ACC tournaments etc get under way and then March Madness. I don't think they will announce no spectators for these events but . . .
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Their statement said a visitor on campus has since tested positive, but they have been assured the individual was not a threat to spread the virus at the time. A lot of this seems pre-emptive.
I do find it interesting that the schools with the largest endowments seem to be quickest to pull the trigger on these things. Not that it means anything, just an observation. Even Berea has joined in, which is one of the rare southern schools at the top of the endowment list.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2020, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Their statement said a visitor on campus has since tested positive, but they have been assured the individual was not a threat to spread the virus at the time. A lot of this seems pre-emptive.
I do find it interesting that the schools with the largest endowments seem to be quickest to pull the trigger on these things. Not that it means anything, just an observation. Even Berea has joined in, which is one of the rare southern schools at the top of the endowment list.
. . . Possibly because their endowments are worth about 15% less than 2 weeks ago?
Quote from: GoPerry on March 10, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2020, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Their statement said a visitor on campus has since tested positive, but they have been assured the individual was not a threat to spread the virus at the time. A lot of this seems pre-emptive.
I do find it interesting that the schools with the largest endowments seem to be quickest to pull the trigger on these things. Not that it means anything, just an observation. Even Berea has joined in, which is one of the rare southern schools at the top of the endowment list.
. . . Possibly because their endowments are worth about 15% less than 2 weeks ago?
:D
Quote from: GoPerry on March 10, 2020, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 10, 2020, 02:45:12 PM
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Their statement said a visitor on campus has since tested positive, but they have been assured the individual was not a threat to spread the virus at the time. A lot of this seems pre-emptive.
I do find it interesting that the schools with the largest endowments seem to be quickest to pull the trigger on these things. Not that it means anything, just an observation. Even Berea has joined in, which is one of the rare southern schools at the top of the endowment list.
. . . Possibly because their endowments are worth about 15% less than 2 weeks ago?
I was thinking the opposite. Their significant wherewithal gives them the freedom to make a long-term decision (whether it's the right or wrong one, I assume they are taking a significant short and medium term hit from this?), whereas less financial stable schools could already be on the edge of shutting down, that they wouldn't even consider drastic action at this time.
Brunswick, Maine Sectional to be held without fans at Bowdoin.
https://athletics.bowdoin.edu/general/2019-20/releases/20200310n2unu0
Still nothing official from Tufts.
Tufts made their announcement earlier today.
https://www.d3hoops.com/notables/2020/03/tufts-joins-amherst-in-closing-doors
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on March 10, 2020, 04:43:29 PM
Brunswick, Maine Sectional to be held without fans at Bowdoin.
https://athletics.bowdoin.edu/general/2019-20/releases/20200310n2unu0
Still nothing official from Tufts.
I'm pretty sure we've been informed Tufts is also going sans spectators. I believe that word came in before Bowdoin. Maybe it hasn't been announced publicly yet?
Right. My mistake. Sorry.
I do trust you all and Dave's reporting that fans will not be allowed. Just interesting that they haven't made a formal, public announcement yet.
Quote from: jekelish on March 10, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Middlebury canceling their spring sports surprises me, as I don't recall reading about any reported cases in Vermont. Crazy.
Maybe not yet.
QuoteThe first patient is an employee at Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center, the hospital has announced. It is not aware of any patients being exposed in clinical areas and has identified any staff who might have been exposed.
State health officials said that the first coronavirus patient "attended an invitation-only private event on Friday" despite being told to stay isolated. That person has now been ordered to remain isolated and all others who came into "close contact" with them at the event were asked to stay isolated for 14 days.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/2nd-presumed-case-coronavirus-new-hampshire/2085211/
Messiah does confirm no fans at Tufts in a release earlier tonight.
https://gomessiah.com/news/2020/3/10/tufts-bans-all-fans-from-this-weekends-womens-basketball-games.aspx
I think it is very odd that there is no public statement from the NCAA on these decisions. They have obviously stepped back and let the schools make the decisions (and shoulder the blame).
On the other hand, how can they sanction what's going on at the D3 level and still allow DI March Madness to proceed with games open to the public? It's putting them in a very odd predicament of conflicting narratives - safety vs $$$.
Last, closing games to the public has only happened with A. NESCAC hosts in the northeast and B. only the women's side. Not a peep or inkling (yet) from any of the men hosts about closing to public on Fri/Sat. True, it's only one game but the supposed risk is there nonetheless . . .
The State of Ohio made a series of virus related decisions today affecting their States colleges and universities and included limiting attendance to their OHSAA basketball playoffs. I am guessing the women's final four next weekend at Capital could also see similar restrictions.
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
Quote from: saratoga on March 10, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
As I have learned in the last week or so, when it comes to school hosting situations the NCAA defers to decisions made by the institutions for the safety, well being, and such on their own campuses. The NCAA doesn't force schools to do anything against that and thus isn't going to say anything.
Quote from: saratoga on March 10, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
Unfortunately, the NCAA does not consider the fans to be one of their constituencies at the Division III level and decisions are rarely made with the fans in mind.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 10, 2020, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: saratoga on March 10, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
As I have learned in the last week or so, when it comes to school hosting situations the NCAA defers to decisions made by the institutions for the safety, well being, and such on their own campuses. The NCAA doesn't force schools to do anything against that and thus isn't going to say anything.
Ok Dave. But this is way different than whether to have an ambulance on standby or cordoning off areas of the bleachers for certain school fans. For them to award hosting sites and then wash their hands of any further decision making is ludicrous at best and cowardly at worst in the present circumstances.
I think they are reluctant to say anything because supporting the action of Amherst, Tufts and Bowdoin begs the next question which is: Well NCAA, if you think this was a good idea for the few hundred people in Amherst, MA, then it's obviously an even better idea to prohibit 20,000 from attending the East regional at MSG or the West Regional at Staples Center or the FF in Atlanta?
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 10, 2020, 11:05:55 PM
Quote from: saratoga on March 10, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
Unfortunately, the NCAA does not consider the fans to be one of their constituencies at the Division III level and decisions are rarely made with the fans in mind.
Yes, this is plainly obvious. But isn't this where the national committee could be helpful? Or does the NCAA no longer take Karin Harvey's calls once they've chosen the site on Sunday? I know this is all new territory but c'mon.
Quote from: GoPerry on March 10, 2020, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 10, 2020, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: saratoga on March 10, 2020, 09:42:04 PM
The NCAA owes many people, especially the kids playing, an explanation as to how they could even award these next games to Amherst after the stunt they pulled by closing the doors to family, friends & the general public less than an hour before the first game was scheduled to tipoff on Friday.
That move alone should have had them out of any consideration for hosting this week.
Instead.....crickets.
As I have learned in the last week or so, when it comes to school hosting situations the NCAA defers to decisions made by the institutions for the safety, well being, and such on their own campuses. The NCAA doesn't force schools to do anything against that and thus isn't going to say anything.
Ok Dave. But this is way different than whether to have an ambulance on standby or cordoning off areas of the bleachers for certain school fans. For them to award hosting sites and then wash their hands of any further decision making is ludicrous at best and cowardly at worst in the present circumstances.
I think they are reluctant to say anything because supporting the action of Amherst, Tufts and Bowdoin begs the next question which is: Well NCAA, if you think this was a good idea for the few hundred people in Amherst, MA, then it's obviously an even better idea to prohibit 20,000 from attending the East regional at MSG or the West Regional at Staples Center or the FF in Atlanta?
Confusing two different beasts: Division III tournament that in the grand scheme of things doesn't bring in any money; DI tournament that is responsible for 80-90% of the entire NCAA budget.
I spent a lot of time in the last 24 hours (or more) trying to understand things better. We may not like it, but it is what we have.
I do think the NCAA will have a statement (at least I was under the impression there may be one coming), but I also know that the last 24 hours - several days - have been a whirlwind for everyone.
Quote from: GoPerry on March 10, 2020, 11:22:19 PM
Yes, this is plainly obvious. But isn't this where the national committee could be helpful? Or does the NCAA no longer take Karin Harvey's calls once they've chosen the site on Sunday? I know this is all new territory but c'mon.
From what I have put together ... this has gotten far more complicated. There are a LOT of different elements and people involved in this.
At first I thought Dave said there were a lot of different elephants involved ... and I was nodding my head.
With many universities sending students home for online classes, NCAA should consider canceling D3 tournament play. Student/players are concerned about traveling to a more infectious area to play games when their peers are going home soon. Couple this with many of the same universities canceling rest of spring sports, they all are questioning why they are being sent to MA to play. This sends very conflicting message that sports trumps their safety. It is unfair to expect an 18 or 19 year old to say no to her coach in playing sweet 16 due to safety concerns that may be founded or not.
FYI. Many of them are slated to fly out today.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
With many universities sending students home for online classes, NCAA should consider canceling D3 tournament play. Student/players are concerned about traveling to a more infectious area to play games when their peers are going home soon. Couple this with many of the same universities canceling rest of spring sports, they all are questioning why they are being sent to MA to play. This sends very conflicting message that sports trumps their safety. It is unfair to expect an 18 or 19 year old to say no to her coach in playing sweet 16 due to safety concerns that may be founded or not.
FYI. Many of them are slated to fly out today.
I don't believe any of the host campuses have reported infections. They're all preemptively closing down.
I strongly resist this line of thinking. This would further promote misinformation and panic. The facts are that very few other than elderly and infirm have suffered serious health consequences. I don't like the idea of fan-less competitions, but in that case the athletes competing represent about the most bulletproof population and their safety is not really an issue.
If safety is an issue, wouldn't that also be a concern for the D1 tournament? Probably a rhetorical question since we all know the D1 tournament money probably trumps other considerations.
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 11, 2020, 09:34:33 AM
I strongly resist this line of thinking. This would further promote misinformation and panic. The facts are that very few other than elderly and infirm have suffered serious health consequences. I don't like the idea of fan-less competitions, but in that case the athletes competing represent about the most bulletproof population and their safety is not really an issue.
If safety is an issue, wouldn't that also be a concern for the D1 tournament? Probably a rhetorical question since we all know the D1 tournament money probably trumps other considerations.
The television revenue trumps ticket sales. Obviously they don't want empty arenas, but it's not out of the question, especially if the NBA goes that route. As long as the games are on TV, the NCAA won't care too much.
I tend to be on the side of "its an overreaction," however, I do think the reality that young people can by asymptomatic carriers is worth considering. People without symptoms are much more likely to unknowingly spread the virus - and college students are prime candidates for that.
My main caution on the other side is that if (and it is very much an if) this is an overreaction, it's likely to lead to an under-reaction next time. The public response tends to swing on a pendulum. We want to take appropriate action, but not more - an abundance of caution can sometimes lead to an absence of it in the future.
Schools should do what they think is best. It does seems most institutions are taking the reality of the virus seriously without overreacting. We may see limited crowds going forward and online courses without closing campuses. Limited gathering size, etc. We'll have to roll with whatever comes.
For those who think this is all an overreaction, I encourage you to read this article (or a similar article in an outlet of your choice):
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation
I was in the "Calm down, you're overreacting crowd" for the reasons mentioned below. This article gave me a new perspective.
It's not just about whether the athletes are healthy or even whether the disease is more lethal than the flu. There are overall resource limitations on the medical system as a whole and the speed with which the virus inundates the system matters.
It is not the Amherst campus that players are fearful of. It is being in an airplane (lesser degree in airport) with recirculating air for hours in a crowded tin can with 100 other people. Especially in flight back home from MA/CT where passengers would be from Boston area where COVID-19 has more cases each day. This is why Universities are sending students home because dorm life tends to breed viruses.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 11:28:33 AM
It is not the Amherst campus that players are fearful of. It is being in an airplane (lesser degree in airport) with recirculating air for hours in a crowded tin can with 100 other people. Especially in flight back home from MA/CT where passengers would be from Boston area where COVID-19 has more cases each day. This is why Universities are sending students home because dorm life tends to breed viruses.
The CDC has specifically said recirculated air on planes is unlikely to spread disease. Now, being sneezed on by an infected fellow passenger certainly would. No player should be forced to travel or play if they won't want to do so.
I also think a lot of campuses are taking this action because of spring break. So many students coming back from so many places creates way more variables. I suspect if this were happening after a break, they'd likely do things differently.
QuoteThis is why Universities are sending students home because dorm life tends to breed viruses.
Yeesh. That's definitely the truth.
I agree with not forcing a player to fly to play a sweet 16 game. but external social pressure once you get there is GREAT for any 18-20 year old to say "no thanks". and it does not help their fears when their peers on campus are going home soon. players on the teams are talking about this especially when they see a D1 conference tournament get cancelled outright.
COVID-19 has been found to be MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS then seasonal flu. so close proximately in an airplane is not ideal especially when the area you are flying back from (MA) has more COVID-19 cases than their state of origin.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
I agree with not forcing a player to fly to play a sweet 16 game. but external social pressure once you get there is GREAT for any 18-20 year old to say "no thanks". and it does not help their fears when their peers on campus are going home soon. players on the teams are talking about this especially when they see a D1 conference tournament get cancelled outright.
COVID-19 has been found to be MUCH MORE CONTAGIOUS then seasonal flu. so close proximately in an airplane is not ideal especially when the area you are flying back from (MA) has more COVID-19 cases than their state of origin.
According to the CDC, COVID19 and the flu are in the same category of contagion - both are transmittable through cough and sneeze from within 6 feet. COVID19 has a higher level of asymptomatic persons, so it's less noticeable. That seems to be the major problem for containment and treatment right now.
Again, I don't think any of these campuses has reported any positive tests. The campuses themselves are not dangerous; the issue many schools have is that spring break is this week and they don't want students who've traveled to so many different places coming back together to potentially infect each other.
There's no danger in teams traveling to Amherst; Amherst wants to keep it that way, so they're telling people to go home and stay there.
I think Berea is the only d3 school, so far, that's closed with positive tests on campus.
WHO reported that COVID-19 can be spread faster due to higher incubation period and longer serial interval. I do not know if this means higher contagion or not. but faster is not good.
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2 (https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2)
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
WHO reported that COVID-19 can be spread faster due to higher incubation period and longer serial interval. I do not know if this means higher contagion or not. but faster is not good.
https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2 (https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_2)
I believe that's collective speed. It will get from one place to another more quickly because of the incubation period and lack of symptoms for many carriers, but it's not easier for an individual to catch. That's the distinction. It's a more difficult collective disease to montior, but it's not more contagious than flu for individuals.
Dave's point about inundating the system all at once may be the most valid reason for these actions. Most experts have already concluded that there is no stopping or containing this, it's just a matter of how long it takes for the population to be infected and begin the recovery process. For example Germany today announced they expect 60%-70% of their population to be infected so the goal is simply to win time so as to not overwhelm the system all at once. Same expectation is true here in the US; 50% + expected to be infected but most will never know it and will never be diagnosed. One epidemiologist acquaintance privately joked about just getting infected to get it over with and move on with life.
wonder if "rioting" at Dayton due to closing school helps or not whether Capital Univ closes doors to fans for final 4?
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 12:53:33 PM
wonder if "rioting" at Dayton due to closing school helps or not whether Capital Univ closes doors to fans for final 4?
They'll probably follow public guidelines. I wouldn't count on anyone but family being able to attend, although things might look better in a week (I like to be optimistic when I can).
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 12:53:33 PM
wonder if "rioting" at Dayton due to closing school helps or not whether Capital Univ closes doors to fans for final 4?
They'll probably follow public guidelines. I wouldn't count on anyone but family being able to attend, although things might look better in a week (I like to be optimistic when I can).
Capital Univ has already closed classes til end of March. so good bet no fans or few fans allowed.
https://twitter.com/Capital_U?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://twitter.com/Capital_U?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 12:53:33 PM
wonder if "rioting" at Dayton due to closing school helps or not whether Capital Univ closes doors to fans for final 4?
They'll probably follow public guidelines. I wouldn't count on anyone but family being able to attend, although things might look better in a week (I like to be optimistic when I can).
Capital Univ has already closed classes til end of March. so good bet no fans or few fans allowed.
https://twitter.com/Capital_U?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://twitter.com/Capital_U?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
They are keeping the campus open, though, so there's still a chance.
ever the optimist
Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
For those who think this is all an overreaction, I encourage you to read this article (or a similar article in an outlet of your choice):
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation
I was in the "Calm down, you're overreacting crowd" for the reasons mentioned below. This article gave me a new perspective.
It's not just about whether the athletes are healthy or even whether the disease is more lethal than the flu. There are overall resource limitations on the medical system as a whole and the speed with which the virus inundates the system matters.
Exactly. I'm not worried about catching the virus for my personal health. I worry if I catch it and bring it home to my in-laws in their 80's with major health issues and live with us. Contemplating cancelling my UK trip in May.
Quote from: CNU85 on March 11, 2020, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: gordonmann on March 11, 2020, 10:26:02 AM
For those who think this is all an overreaction, I encourage you to read this article (or a similar article in an outlet of your choice):
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/10/21171481/coronavirus-us-cases-quarantine-cancellation
I was in the "Calm down, you're overreacting crowd" for the reasons mentioned below. This article gave me a new perspective.
It's not just about whether the athletes are healthy or even whether the disease is more lethal than the flu. There are overall resource limitations on the medical system as a whole and the speed with which the virus inundates the system matters.
Exactly. I'm not worried about catching the virus for my personal health. I worry if I catch it and bring it home to my in-laws in their 80's with major health issues and live with us. Contemplating cancelling my UK trip in May.
At the rate things are going you may not have a choice. The administration is talking about travel restrictions to all of Europe now. https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/articles/2020-03-11/exclusive-white-house-to-discuss-new-travel-restrictions-on-europe-sources
Just to interject some data, research just published in the journal Science shows that travel restrictions have only modest effect in delaying (a few days to a couple of weeks) not reducing the eventual spread of COVID-19. Transmission-reduction actions (hand washing, social distancing and such) have a bigger impact.
D1 NCAA has just said only limited family members will be able attend March Madness.
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1237840436112183297/photo/1
Quote from: Ron Boerger on March 11, 2020, 04:42:17 PM
D1 NCAA has just said only limited family members will be able attend March Madness.
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1237840436112183297/photo/1
It actually states "upcoming championship events, including the D1 men's and women's basketball tournaments". I would interpret that to include all D2 and D3 tournament games as well.
Could be. Could also be reference to D-I wrestling and D-I ice hockey.
what I understand is CDC hopes to slow down spread of COVID-19 so that severe cases can be "addressed adequately" by US healthcare system (e.g. hospitals). I think they have given up that it will spread to most states.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
what I understand is CDC hopes to slow down spread of COVID-19 so that severe cases can be "addressed adequately" by US healthcare system (e.g. hospitals). I think they have given up that it will spread to most states.
Yeah, most estimates I've seen is that they expect 60-70% of the adult population infected. They're just trying to keep all those people from getting it at the same time.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
what I understand is CDC hopes to slow down spread of COVID-19 so that severe cases can be "addressed adequately" by US healthcare system (e.g. hospitals). I think they have given up that it will spread to most states.
Yeah, most estimates I've seen is that they expect 60-70% of the adult population infected. They're just trying to keep all those people from getting it at the same time.
more like hoping the spread to most risky population (65+, comorbid) is slow enough to be handled by Healthcare system. Majority of infected will be asymptomatic and that's a big problem if they are the ones wanted to go see grandma in nursing home.
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 11, 2020, 05:19:09 PM
Quote from: VT-Alum-NOVA on March 11, 2020, 05:17:29 PM
what I understand is CDC hopes to slow down spread of COVID-19 so that severe cases can be "addressed adequately" by US healthcare system (e.g. hospitals). I think they have given up that it will spread to most states.
Yeah, most estimates I've seen is that they expect 60-70% of the adult population infected. They're just trying to keep all those people from getting it at the same time.
more like hoping the spread to most risky population (65+, comorbid) is slow enough to be handled by Healthcare system. Majority of infected will be asymptomatic and that's a big problem if they are the ones wanted to go see grandma in nursing home.
I'm guessing most nursing homes are on serious lockdown about now.
Well, Hope finally succumbed - sort of.
"Only the following attendees will be allowed access to the games: credentialed team members, and essential personnel. A limited number of tickets will be made available for student-athlete family members.
Friday's games will be held in a split session. Spectators will be required to clear the fieldhouse between games. At 4:30 p.m., Loras College (Iowa) will play the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. At 7:30 p.m., Hope College will play Baldwin Wallace University (Ohio). "
This seems a good compromise. Prevents large gathering but also allows family to see their student athletes. In Hope's case, one of the reasons they lead attendance year after year is they've built a large local fan base from the the local retirement communities, a higher risk population.
CNU MBB only allowing limited family
Quote from: saratoga on March 09, 2020, 06:53:48 PM
This decision once again proves that just when you think an ounce of common sense has made it's way to NCAA leadership, nonsense like this happens.
Having these kids held hostage by an internal decision by Amherst is just plain wrong.
Amherst has every right to do what they think is right for their school & their students.
However, once that decision impacts 3 other schools from across the country, then all bets should be off the table for hosting rights & the games should be moved.
Have family & friends that have followed you all year fly across the country to sit in a hotel room 10 miles from the games & watch on a computer.
How freakin fan friendly can you get?
I wonder if UConn will close the doors tonight?
I've definitely wavered on the "no fans in attendance" policy I stood by on Sunday. After hearing the CIAC over in Connecticut decided to cancel the rest of the winter sports season instead of holding the rest of the tournament in an empty gym and seeing high school seniors ending their careers having the rug pulled out from under them; playing in an empty arena than not having to play at all. I just wish the CIAC would reverse their decision and let those players finish their career.
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 11, 2020, 06:51:57 PM
Well, Hope finally succumbed - sort of.
"Only the following attendees will be allowed access to the games: credentialed team members, and essential personnel. A limited number of tickets will be made available for student-athlete family members.
Friday's games will be held in a split session. Spectators will be required to clear the fieldhouse between games. At 4:30 p.m., Loras College (Iowa) will play the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. At 7:30 p.m., Hope College will play Baldwin Wallace University (Ohio). "
Hope had a governor and local health officials (who they have been following for advice on this) indicate they needed to do this ... there is also a student on campus that has been tested for COVID-19 (though, test results are not back last I heard).
It's a bold move by the NCAA and I commend them for taking the difficult action.
Whether this is an over-reaction or not is almost immaterial. If the public needs to see and feel the severity of the problem, this is a big step towards that.
Quote from: GoPerry on March 11, 2020, 09:15:36 PM
It's a bold move by the NCAA and I commend them for taking the difficult action.
Whether this is an over-reaction or not is almost immaterial. If the public needs to see and feel the severity of the problem, this is a big step towards that.
Won't disagree for the most part ... but sometimes these decisions also cause more panic in the public. It is a slippery slope. I think a lot of this was caused by some places (leave that open to interruption) panicking or overreacting ... and now everyone is doing it causing possibly more panic.
Imo, I do not see D3 WBB going forward with final 4 next weekend at this point. Makes me wonder about this weekend and how current news will affect psychologically the players? if NBA has suspended play and NCAA D1 doing tournaments sans fans .... and NHL with MLB mulling suspending season as well ...
With the NESCAC and other schools shutting campuses down to students and going to "remote instruction" for the remainder of the school year it may rapidly become a moot point. Emory did this yesterday (though there has been no mention as of yet regarding athletics), Trinity (TX) announced they're shutting down all athletics and campus activities for the semester March 23, etc...
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 11, 2020, 09:06:12 PM
Quote from: Roundball999 on March 11, 2020, 06:51:57 PM
Well, Hope finally succumbed - sort of.
"Only the following attendees will be allowed access to the games: credentialed team members, and essential personnel. A limited number of tickets will be made available for student-athlete family members.
Friday's games will be held in a split session. Spectators will be required to clear the fieldhouse between games. At 4:30 p.m., Loras College (Iowa) will play the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. At 7:30 p.m., Hope College will play Baldwin Wallace University (Ohio). "
Hope had a governor and local health officials (who they have been following for advice on this) indicate they needed to do this ... there is also a student on campus that has been tested for COVID-19 (though, test results are not back last I heard).
Results came back negative. Not that it dramatically changes the narrative.
Hope has also made all classes ONLINE until April 12th.
Just heard ACC tournament (and all 5 Power Conferences now) have ended their tournaments. Flroida State and Clemson were in pregame warmups when the decision came down.
I'm willing to bet NCAA terminates D3 tournament today
Quote from: CNU85 on March 12, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
I'm willing to bet NCAA terminates D3 tournament today
Maybe. I think it's more likely they do it after this weekend. D3 basketball and hockey teams playing this weekend have already traveled and are on site. Without fans there's not really an increased risk of playing those games. Anything is possible, though - I'm sitting here waiting for the announcements even as I say "maybe not."
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2020, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 12, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
I'm willing to bet NCAA terminates D3 tournament today
Maybe. I think it's more likely they do it after this weekend. D3 basketball and hockey teams playing this weekend have already traveled and are on site. Without fans there's not really an increased risk of playing those games. Anything is possible, though - I'm sitting here waiting for the announcements even as I say "maybe not."
By this logic, how do all of the major D1 conferences make the justification to cancel the tournaments while teams are warming up?
I know it's different sets of decision makers and a prudential decision, but I don't see how this doesn't end up filtering down to D3 by the time we get to tomorrow's games.
And the NBA situation with Gobert and now Mitchell might be an outlier, but it's the kind of risk that weighs in folks minds when making these decisions.
Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2020, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 12, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
I'm willing to bet NCAA terminates D3 tournament today
Maybe. I think it's more likely they do it after this weekend. D3 basketball and hockey teams playing this weekend have already traveled and are on site. Without fans there's not really an increased risk of playing those games. Anything is possible, though - I'm sitting here waiting for the announcements even as I say "maybe not."
By this logic, how do all of the major D1 conferences make the justification to cancel the tournaments while teams are warming up?
I know it's different sets of decision makers and a prudential decision, but I don't see how this doesn't end up filtering down to D3 by the time we get to tomorrow's games.
And the NBA situation with Gobert and now Mitchell might be an outlier, but it's the kind of risk that weighs in folks minds when making these decisions.
Those tournaments don't mean anything for the national title. We all know D1 conference tourneys are cash grabs. It's not like someone will win the ACC tournament who wouldn't get in anyway. Maybe they'll cancel the D1 tourney or postpone it until May or whatever, but the outcome of these games makes no difference either way.
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2020, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: jamtod on March 12, 2020, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 12, 2020, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: CNU85 on March 12, 2020, 01:20:36 PM
I'm willing to bet NCAA terminates D3 tournament today
Maybe. I think it's more likely they do it after this weekend. D3 basketball and hockey teams playing this weekend have already traveled and are on site. Without fans there's not really an increased risk of playing those games. Anything is possible, though - I'm sitting here waiting for the announcements even as I say "maybe not."
By this logic, how do all of the major D1 conferences make the justification to cancel the tournaments while teams are warming up?
I know it's different sets of decision makers and a prudential decision, but I don't see how this doesn't end up filtering down to D3 by the time we get to tomorrow's games.
And the NBA situation with Gobert and now Mitchell might be an outlier, but it's the kind of risk that weighs in folks minds when making these decisions.
Those tournaments don't mean anything for the national title. We all know D1 conference tourneys are cash grabs. It's not like someone will win the ACC tournament who wouldn't get in anyway. Maybe they'll cancel the D1 tourney or postpone it until May or whatever, but the outcome of these games makes no difference either way.
Meanwhile, I'm watching the Players Championship on TV . . . thousands of people in the galleries and not exactly practicing the 6 ft social distancing guideline. Perhaps the risk of transmission is less outdoors but Idk.
But now I see they'll not allow fans starting tomorrow.
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 11, 2020, 09:20:20 PM
Quote from: GoPerry on March 11, 2020, 09:15:36 PM
It's a bold move by the NCAA and I commend them for taking the difficult action.
Whether this is an over-reaction or not is almost immaterial. If the public needs to see and feel the severity of the problem, this is a big step towards that.
Won't disagree for the most part ... but sometimes these decisions also cause more panic in the public. It is a slippery slope. I think a lot of this was caused by some places (leave that open to interruption) panicking or overreacting ... and now everyone is doing it causing possibly more panic.
Another perspective from an infectious disease specialist: https://talbotspy.org/letter-from-toronto-an-infectious-diseases-specialist-reflects-on-corvid-19/?fbclid=IwAR1KJt0QaVh4q5yUUcn6W0gIYUHFmef6exKCGUju8574PfuFZGu3wSDK_Lw
OAC just folded up shop for *all* athletic activities for the remainder of the spring season. Schools with teams/individuals still participating/qualified for winter championships have the option to continue there.
https://www.oac.org/MISC/COVID-19_2020/COVID-19.pdf
"The Conference will appeal to the NCAA to re-gain a season of eligibility and an extra semester to participate for all spring student-athletes who have participated thus far at OAC member institutions. "
so this weekend may be last d3 basketball games played for 19-20 season. for WBB, even if OH opened doors for game to be played sans fans, I do not see it happened at all. with all of this swirling around, some players are having hard time focusing on prep for this weekend's games.
The NCAA just released a statement. All remaining winter and spring championships are canceled.
https://twitter.com/NCAA/status/1238197201928667136?s=20
Quote from: jekelish on March 12, 2020, 04:19:36 PM
The NCAA just released a statement. All remaining winter and spring championships are canceled.
https://twitter.com/NCAA/status/1238197201928667136?s=20
This includes D3. Done. See y'all on the 2021 NCAA Tournament Boards next year
d3 players fly home tomorrow
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Congrats to CNU 2020 NCAA Men's and Women's National Co-Champions!!!! ;D
(Stole it from Coach K and Dave on Hoopsville).
Dave -- I was almost there! Haha. After class I ran into some athletic department folks heading home and they told me where the team was eating. I almost headed there but decided they just needed to be to themselves! Nice show, by the way. A difficult one for sure. You managed it with great empathy and understanding. Nicely done!
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While the season came to an abrupt end, there are still student-athletes, coaches, and programs to recognize for what they accomplished this season.
On a special edition of Hoopsville, we not only look at the final Top 25 polls of the season, but we also take a look at the All-Region awards.
Plus, the NABC All Star Rosters are announced, exclusively, here tonight. We then will talk to long time NABC Board of Directors member Pat Cunningham about the team and the announcement he is retiring as Trinity (Texas) men's basketball coach.
And we have a round-table discussion of all things Division III basketball. Pat Coleman, Gordon Mann, Ryan Scott, and Bob Quillman saddle up to their computers and join us for a spirited chat and maybe even answer your questions.
Guests Schedule (order subject to change):
- Pat Cunningham, NABC Board of Directors & Trinity (Texas) men's coach
- Pat Coleman, D3hoops.com Editor-in-Chief
- Gordon Mann, D3hoops.com Senior Editor
- Ryan Scott, D3hoops.com National Columnist
- Bob Quillman, IWUHoops.com
Hoopsville (http://www.d3hoopsville.com) is presented by D3hoops.com and airs from the WBCA/NABC Studio. You can watch
Tuesday night's show LIVE starting at 7:00 p.m. ET in the following ways:
- Main page: www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville
- Show page: http://bit.ly/2TYTxJ63 (or www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2019-20/mar17)
- Facebook Live Simulcast: www.facebook.com/Hoopsville
- YouTube Simulcast: www.youtube.com/d3hoopsville
- Team1 Sports: www.team1sports.com/Hoopsville/
- Team1 Sports app (https://team1sports.com/) (Android TV, Amazon Fire, Apple TV, Roku) - you will either find it under the "live" section or search for the Hoopsville channel
All men's coaches appear in the NABC Coach's Corner. And all guests are featured on the BlueFrame Technology Hoopsville Hotline.
If you have questions about Division III basketball, feel free to send them and we will answer them on a the show. Email them to hoopsville@d3sports.com or use any of the social media options to the right.
Please also consider helping us out. We are accepting donations to the show - which many of you have asked about. The goal is to raise $7,500. We are approximately at $5,200 at the time of this posting.
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