Rather than clutter up the USC rankings thread, which will become useful later in the year, I created a thread just for the preseason conference coaches polls
American Rivers Conference
https://duhawks.com/news/2023/8/16/mens-soccer-tops-2023-a-r-c-preseason-coaches-poll.aspx
2023 Men's Soccer A-R-C Preseason Coaches' Poll
Rank | School (1st Place Votes) | Points | 2022 Record (Overall, A-R-C)
1. Loras (5) | 59 | 10-6-2, 5-1-2 (Regular Season Conference Champions)
2. Luther (3) | 55 | 12-4-5, 4-0-4 (Tournament Champions)
3. Wartburg | 46 | 7-2-9, 3-0-5
T-4. Nebraska Wesleyan (1) | 40 | 7-8-3, 4-2-2
T-4. Simpson | 40 | 12-4-3, 4-1-3
6. Dubuque | 34 | 8-7-4, 3-2-3
7. Central | 25 | 3-11-2, 2-5-1
8. Coe | 16 | 2-14-1, 1-7
9. Buena Vista | 9 | 0-15-2, 0-8
CCIW
https://cciw.org/news/2023/8/16/coaches-vote-north-park-as-cciw-mens-soccer-frontrunner.aspx
2023 Preseason CCIW Men's Soccer Coaches' Poll
1. North Park (5) 61
2. North Central (4) 59
3. Wheaton 47
4. Carthage 43
5. Carroll 33
6. Elmhurst 30
7. Illinois Wesleyan 27
T8. Augustana 12
T8. Millikin 12
NCAC
https://northcoast.org/news/2023/8/10/general-kenyon-tops-ncac-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 NCAC Men's Soccer
Preseason Coaches' Poll
(first-place votes in parentheses , followed by total points)
1. Kenyon (6) 78
2. Ohio Wesleyan (3) 75
3. Denison 60
4. Wabash 53
5. DePauw 37
6. Wooster 35
7. Wittenberg 32
8. Oberlin 26
9. Hiram 9
HCAC
https://heartlandconf.org/news/2023/8/14/general.aspx (https://heartlandconf.org/news/2023/8/14/general.aspx)
2023 HCAC MEN'S SOCCER PRESEASON POLL
1. Rose-Hulman (7) 78
2. Hanover (2) 71
3. Transylvania (1) 70
t4. Anderson 50
t4. Manchester 50
6. Bluffton 42
7. Franklin 28
8. Defiance 23
9. Earlham 21
10. Mount St. Joseph 17
NJAC
https://njacsports.com/news/2023/8/22/montclair-state-tabbed-no-1-in-njac-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
1. Montclair State (7)
2. Rowan (3)
3. Rutgers-Newark
4. Rutgers-Camden (dark horse)
5. Kean
6. Stockton
7. Ramapo
8. TCNJ
9. NJCU
10. William Paterson
The ODAC preseason poll:
https://odaconline.com/news/2023/8/22/082423-msoc-preseasonspoll.aspx
Landmark
https://gowilkesu.com/news/2023/8/28/mens-soccer-wilkes-mens-soccer-voted-ninth-in-inaugural-landmark-preseason-poll.aspx
1. Catholic 81 (9)
2. Scranton 66 (1)
3. Elizabethtown 62
4. Lycoming 61
5. Drew 52
6. Goucher 36
7. Moravian 33
8. Juniata 24
9. Wilkes 22
10. Susquehanna 13
SCAC
https://scacsports.com/sports/msoc/2023-24/releases/PreseasonPoll
1. St. Thomas 79 (7)
2. Trinity 74 (2)
3. Colorado College 59
4. Southwestern 57
5. Texas Lutheran 45
6. Austin College 26
7. Schreiner 25
8. Centenary 21
9. Dallas 19
ASC
https://ascsports.org/news/2023/8/22/umhb-mens-soccer-picked-to-repeat-fiol-and-torrez-earn-preseason-honors.aspx
2023 ASC Preseason Men's Soccer Poll
Team (First Place Votes) Points 2022 Record (ASC)
1. Mary Hardin-Baylor (10) 152 13-3-2 (7-1-1)
2. Concordia Texas (4) 138 10-3-4 (6-0-3)
3. UT Dallas (1) 117 9-6-4 (4-3-2)
4. Hardin-Simmons (1) 115 6-8-4 (5-4)
5. Ozarks (1) 81 10-5-5 (3-3-3)
6. LeTourneau 72 7-7-6 (3-4-2)
7. East Texas Baptist 58 7-7-3 (2-5-2)
8. McMurry (1) 48 5-9-3 (3-5-1)
9. Howard Payne 31 6-7-4 (3-4-2)
$. Sul Ross State - 0-11-4 (0-7-2)
$ – Ineligible for ASC and NCAA Championships
OAC
https://pioneers.marietta.edu/news/2023/8/24/mens-soccer-picked-seventh-in-oac-preseason-poll.aspx
OAC Men's Soccer Preseason Coaches Poll:
1. John Carroll (6) — 77 points
2. Ohio Northern (4) — 75
3. Otterbein — 65
4. Wilmington — 51
5. Mount Union — 50
6. Capital — 47
7. Marietta — 31
8. Baldwin Wallace — 28
9. Muskingum — 17
10. Heidelberg — 9
GNAC
https://thegnac.com/sports/msoc/2023-24/releases/2023MSOCPreseasonPoll
2023 GNAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Johnson & Wales 205 (6 First Place Votes)
2. Saint Joseph's (Maine) 197 (3)
3. University of Saint Joseph (Conn.) 192 (4)
4. Norwich 180 (1)
5. Emmanuel 164
6. Albertus Magnus 149
7. New England College 115
8. Lasell 99
9. Dean 95
10. Regis 83
11. Colby-Sawyer 76
12. Rivier 75
13. Elms 60
14. Anna Maria 56
15. Mitchell 54
MIAA
https://www.miaa.org/sports/msoc/2023-24/releases/PreseasonPoll
Rank Team Points First-Place Votes
1. Calvin 7 points 7
2. Hope 13 points 1
3. Trine 19 points
4. Albion 28 points
5. Kalamazoo 29 points
6. Adrian 40 points
7. Olivet 42 points
8. Alma 46 points
SLIAC
https://spaldingathletics.com/news/2023/8/24/mens-soccer-mens-soccer-lands-fourth-in-sliac-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 SLIAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Greenville - 77 (5)
2. Webster - 74 (4)
3. Principia - 59
4. Fontbonne - 49
4. Spalding - 49
6. Lyon - 46 (1)
7. Eureka - 38
8. Westminster - 30
9. Blackburn - 16
10. MUW - 12
AMCC
https://www.amccsports.org/sports/msoc/2023-24/files/2023_MSO_Pre-Season_Poll.pdf
Pre-Season Ranking*
1. Penn State Behrend
2. Mount Aloysius
3. Pitt-Greensburg
4. Alfred State
5. Penn State Altoona
6. Hilbert
7. Pitt-Bradford
8. Carlow
9. La Roche
10. Wells
NAC
https://nacathletics.com/news/2023/8/29/mens-soccer-msoc-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 NAC EAST MEN'S SOCCER PRESEASON POLL
RANK TEAM POINTS (FIRST PLACE VOTES) 2022 OVERALL/CONF. RECORD
1. Husson 48 pts. (6) 15-4-2 / 8-0-1 NAC EAST
2. UMaine-Farmington 38 pts. 8-6-3 / 6-2-1 NAC EAST
3. Thomas 36 pts. (1) 6-7-5 / 4-2-3 NAC EAST
4. Maine Maritime 31 pts. 5-10-1 / 4-4-1 NAC EAST
5. UMaine-Presque Isle 18 pts. 3-10-2 / 3-6-0 NAC EAST
6. Lesley 15 pts. 0-14-0 / 0-6-0 NECC
7. VTSU Lyndon 10 pts. 2-12-1 / 1-8-0 NAC EAST
2023 NAC WEST MEN'S SOCCER PRESEASON POLL
POLL
RANK TEAM POINTS (FIRST PLACE VOTES) 2022 OVERALL/CONF. RECORD
1. SUNY Poly 42 pts. (5) 11-5-3 / 7-0-2 NAC WEST
2. SUNY Delhi 41 pts. (2) 10-7-2 / 4-3-2 NAC WEST
3. SUNY Canton 34 pts. 6-11-1 / 5-3-1 NAC WEST
T-4. Eastern Nazarene 27 pts. 7-7-5 / 5-0-1 NECC
T-4. SUNY Morrisville 27 pts. 7-9-0 / 3-5-0 United East
6. SUNY Cobleskill 13 pts. 2-15-2 / 2-7-0 NAC WEST
7. VTSU Johnson 11 pts. 4-10-2 / 2-7-1 NAC WEST
I am grateful that Kiup does all that work. Couldn't find CCC or NESCAC.
2023 NEWMAC Men's Soccer Preseason Coaches Poll
Babson (7)
Wheaton (1)
MIT
WPI
Emerson (1)
Coast Guard
Salve
Springfield
Clark
Little East
https://littleeast.com/news/2023/8/25/umass-boston-edges-westconn-for-top-spot-in-2023-lec-mens-soccer-preseason-coaches-poll.aspx
2023 Men's Soccer Preseason Coaches' Poll
Institution - Points (FPV)
1. UMass Boston - 60 (4)
2. Western Connecticut - 59 (5)
3. Eastern Connecticut - 52
4. Rhode Island College - 40
5. Keene State - 32
6. VTSU Castleton - 30
7. Plymouth State - 20
8. Southern Maine - 20
9. UMass Dartmouth - 11
[First poll I have seen where the team with the most points did not also have the most first place votes - Looks like Western Connecticut and rankings/polls don't get along!]
Collegiate Conference of the South
https://collegiateconferenceofthesouth.com/news/2023/8/27/covenant-selected-2023-preseason-ccs-mens-soccer-favorite.aspx
2023 CCS MEN'S SOCCER PRESEASON COACHES POLL
Covenant
27 points
LaGrange
26 points
Maryville
23 points
Belhaven
19 points
Piedmont
16 points
Berea
8 points
Huntingdon
7 points
SCIAC:
2023 SCIAC Football Preseason Poll
1. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 34 points (4 first-place votes)
2. Chapman, 26 pts (1)
3. Pomona-Pitzer, 24 pts (1)
4. Redlands, 24 pts
5. California Lutheran, 11 pts
6. La Verne, 7 pts
PAC
https://pacathletics.org/news/2023/8/21/grove-city-voted-first-in-pac-mens-soccer-preseason-coaches-poll.aspx
2023 PAC Men's Soccer Preseason Coaches' Poll (Predicted order of finish)
School (first-place votes) Points 2022 record (conference)
1. Grove City College (9) 99 12-5-1 (10-0 PAC)
2. Franciscan University (2) 85 13-4-4 (7-2-1 PAC)
3. Geneva College 75 10-4-7 (6-1-3 PAC)
4. Bethany College 72 9-7-5 (4-3-3 PAC)
5. Allegheny College 62 5-8-4 (4-2-4 PAC)
6. Westminster College 55 9-6-3 (4-3-3 PAC)
7. Washington & Jefferson College 54 6-8-2 (3-5-2 PAC)
8. Chatham University 42 3-10-3 (2-6-2 PAC)
9. Saint Vincent College 27 5-9-4 (1-6-3 PAC)
10. Waynesburg University 22 3-9-5 (1-6-3 PAC)
11. Thiel College 11 1-15-2 (1-9 PAC)
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 29, 2023, 06:25:50 PM
SCIAC:
2023 SCIAC Football Preseason Poll
1. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 34 points (4 first-place votes)
2. Chapman, 26 pts (1)
3. Pomona-Pitzer, 24 pts (1)
4. Redlands, 24 pts
5. California Lutheran, 11 pts
6. La Verne, 7 pts
Ironically, that might not be that far off for the SCIAC Men's Soccer coaches poll this year too (which wasn't out yet last I checked). I suspect Cal Tech and Whittier will slot in around La Verne, but Redlands might gripe about being that low, as would Cal Lutheran. Oxy would too, but we could chalk it up to the curse of Jack Kemp for dropping football. ;)
MAC Commonwealth
https://gomacsports.com/news/2023/8/18/messiah-earns-top-pick-in-mac-commonwealth-mens-soccer-coaches-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 MAC Commonwealth Men's Soccer Coaches' Preseason Poll
Rank Team Points (1st Place Votes)
1. Messiah 49 (7)
T2. Widener 39
T2. Alvernia 39
4. York (Pa.) 30
5. Stevenson 28
6. Eastern 19
T7. Albright 10
T7. Hood 10
SAA
https://saa-sports.com/news/2023/8/21/rhodes-leads-close-vote-on-top-of-saa-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 SAA Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Rhodes - 39 pts (3)
2. Berry - 38 pts (1)
T3. Oglethorpe - 37 pts (3)
T3. Sewanee - 37 pts
5. Birmingham-Southern (1) - 25 pts
6. Hendrix - 21 pts
7. Centre - 20 pts
8. Millsaps - 7 pts
MASCAC
https://www.bsubears.com/sports/msoc/2023-24/releases/MASCAC_Preseason_Poll
2023 MASCAC Men's Soccer
Preseason Coaches Poll
(1st Place Votes in Parentheses)
Rank School Points
1. Worcester State 44 points (3)
2. Salem State 42 points (2)
3. Framingham State 40 points (1)
4. Bridgewater State 33 points (1)
5. Westfield State 25 points
T-6. Fitchburg State 16 points
T-6. MCLA 16 points
8. Mass. Maritime 8 points
MAC Freedom
https://gomacsports.com/news/2023/8/18/stevens-earns-top-pick-in-mac-freedom-mens-soccer-coaches-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 MAC Freedom Men's Soccer Coaches' Preseason Poll
Rank Team Points (1st Place Votes)
1. Stevens 49 (7)
2. Misericordia 43
3. Lebanon Valley 34
4. Arcadia 30
5. FDU-Florham 25
6. DeSales 22
7. King's 12
8. Delaware Valley 9
NACC
https://naccsports.org/news/2023/8/21/msoe-edges-aurora-for-top-spot-in-nacc-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
2023 NACC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
Institution Points
MSOE (12) 316
Aurora (8) 305
Dominican (5) 282
Concordia Wisconsin (1) 242
Benedictine 242
St. Norbert 216
Marian 195
Wisconsin Lutheran 165
Illinois Tech 136
Rockford 89
Concordia Chicago 68
Lakeland 62
Edgewood 48
C2C
https://www.cnusports.com/news/2023/8/22/christopher-newport-mens-soccer-picked-second-in-coast-to-coast-athletic-conference-preseason-coaches-poll.aspx
2023 C2C Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
Rank Institution Points (1st)
1. Mary Washington 47 (5)
2. Christopher Newport 45 (3)
3. Wisconsin-Whitewater 34
4. Salisbury 28
T5. Wisconsin-Platteville 25
T5. UC Santa Cruz 25
7. Warren Wilson 11
8. Pratt 9
USA South Athletic
https://www.ncwcsports.com/sports/msoc/2023-24/releases/20230827kdfyek
2023 USA South Coaches Preseason Men's Soccer Poll
Rank Institution (1st Place Votes) Points
1. Brevard^ (4) 44
2. William Peace (2) 43
3. N.C. Wesleyan* (2) 42
4. Methodist 31
5. Greensboro 20
6. Pfeiffer 19
7. Southern Virginia 17
8. Mary Baldwin 8
*Defending Regular Season Champion
^Defending Tournament Champion
No polls for NESCAC, UAA, Centennial, SCIAC, and Northwest. I probably missed a few others or they aren't out either. Some conferences may hold these until the last minute as part of a publicity blitz in advance of the first game on Friday or their coaches hold their votes as long as possible before submitting them.
What's interesting is that the coaches polls reveal the conferences where the coaches believe that one team is clearly dominant (e.g., MAC Commonwealth and MAC Freedom where Messiah and Stevens got all the first place votes, respectively) and where the coaches consider the league completely wide open (e.g., the SAA with half the teams receiving first place votes and only two points separate the top four spots)
What's the back-testing like on these polls?
Quote from: EnmoreCat on August 29, 2023, 07:33:28 PM
What's the back-testing like on these polls?
I've never seen anyone run that down on a large scale and it obviously differs from conference to conference, but it tends to be generally accurate at the top and bottom (+ or - a few spots), but not so much in the middle, which is often a crapshoot anyway. What differentiates it from the Massey preseason rankings is that coaches in the conference are actually making a judgment about this season based on who they know is returning and who is coming in, as well as taking into account coaching changes etc.
As an example, here is the ODAC 2022 preseason poll compared to how they finished the regular season
ODAC Men's Soccer Preseason Coaches Poll How they Actually Finished in Regular Season 2022
August 26, 2022
1 Washington and Lee University (11) 143 pts 2
2 University of Lynchburg (2) 133 pts 1
3 Roanoke College 120 pts 4
4 Randolph-Macon College 110 pts 6
5 Virginia Wesleyan University 89 pts 3
6 Hampden-Sydney College 88 pts 8
7 Randolph College 86 pts 9
8 Averett University 62 pts 10
9 Bridgewater College 55 pts 5
10 Shenandoah University 53 pts 12
11 Guilford College 32 pts 7
12 Ferrum College 26 pts 11
13 Eastern Mennonite University 17 pts 13
Quote from: Kuiper on August 29, 2023, 05:27:43 PM
Landmark
https://gowilkesu.com/news/2023/8/28/mens-soccer-wilkes-mens-soccer-voted-ninth-in-inaugural-landmark-preseason-poll.aspx
1. Catholic 81 (9)
2. Scranton 66 (1)
3. Elizabethtown 62
4. Lycoming 61
5. Drew 52
6. Goucher 36
7. Moravian 33
8. Juniata 24
9. Wilkes 22
10. Susquehanna 13
This one is interesting to me as Lycoming and Wilkes are in their first year of the Landmark. Lycoming was 10-4-7 last year and lost in the conference final to Stevens on PKs. They graduated only 3 seniors and are returning 33/35 of their goals. They may be better than 4th. Drew was 12-2-4 last year and are returning almost their entire offense including three all-conference and two all-region players. Frankly I'm surprised they're 5th, but I guess that's why you play the games.
Quote from: Kuiper on August 29, 2023, 06:34:12 PM
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 29, 2023, 06:25:50 PM
SCIAC:
2023 SCIAC Football Preseason Poll
1. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 34 points (4 first-place votes)
2. Chapman, 26 pts (1)
3. Pomona-Pitzer, 24 pts (1)
4. Redlands, 24 pts
5. California Lutheran, 11 pts
6. La Verne, 7 pts
Ironically, that might not be that far off for the SCIAC Men's Soccer coaches poll this year too (which wasn't out yet last I checked). I suspect Cal Tech and Whittier will slot in around La Verne, but Redlands might gripe about being that low, as would Cal Lutheran. Oxy would too, but we could chalk it up to the curse of Jack Kemp for dropping football. ;)
Sorry. I was about to delete my post but at least it was worth something.
Quote from: Kuiper on August 29, 2023, 07:07:23 PM
No polls for NESCAC, UAA, Centennial, SCIAC, and Northwest. I probably missed a few others or they aren't out either. Some conferences may hold these until the last minute as part of a publicity blitz in advance of the first game on Friday or their coaches hold their votes as long as possible before submitting them.
What's interesting is that the coaches polls reveal the conferences where the coaches believe that one team is clearly dominant (e.g., MAC Commonwealth and MAC Freedom where Messiah and Stevens got all the first place votes, respectively) and where the coaches consider the league completely wide open (e.g., the SAA with half the teams receiving first place votes and only two points separate the top four spots)
I do not ever remember seeing a NESCAC preseason poll. I do not think they do them.
Quote from: College Soccer Observer on August 29, 2023, 11:43:19 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on August 29, 2023, 07:07:23 PM
No polls for NESCAC, UAA, Centennial, SCIAC, and Northwest. I probably missed a few others or they aren't out either. Some conferences may hold these until the last minute as part of a publicity blitz in advance of the first game on Friday or their coaches hold their votes as long as possible before submitting them.
What's interesting is that the coaches polls reveal the conferences where the coaches believe that one team is clearly dominant (e.g., MAC Commonwealth and MAC Freedom where Messiah and Stevens got all the first place votes, respectively) and where the coaches consider the league completely wide open (e.g., the SAA with half the teams receiving first place votes and only two points separate the top four spots)
I do not ever remember seeing a NESCAC preseason poll. I do not think they do them.
I don't think the UAA does either. The Centennial, SCIAC and Northwest Conferences have in the past. I was just identifying conferences that weren't mentioned in the thread so people wouldn't think I had forgotten they existed or forgotten to look them up.
CC has the women's preseason poll out today, so the men's should be up soon.
https://centennial.org/sports/msoc
1. Johns Hopkins (8) 79
2. Franklin & Marshall (1) 72
3. Muhlenberg (1) 58
4. Gettysburg 57
5. Washington College 56
6. Dickinson 40
7. Swarthmore 33
8T. Haverford 21
8T. McDaniel 21
10. Ursinus 13
The real SCIAC poll.
2023 SCIAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Occidental, 65 points (3 first-place votes)
2. Redlands, 63 pts (1)
3. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 62 pts (1)
4. California Lutheran, 56 pts (1)
5. Chapman, 55 pts (2)
6. Pomona-Pitzer, 44 pts (1)
7. La Verne, 27 pts
8. Caltech, 17 pts
9. Whittier, 16 pts
https://thesciac.org/news/2023/8/23/tigers-picked-to-win-first-title-in-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
Quote from: Gray Fox on August 30, 2023, 02:25:46 PM
The real SCIAC poll.
2023 SCIAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Occidental, 65 points (3 first-place votes)
2. Redlands, 63 pts (1)
3. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 62 pts (1)
4. California Lutheran, 56 pts (1)
5. Chapman, 55 pts (2)
6. Pomona-Pitzer, 44 pts (1)
7. La Verne, 27 pts
8. Caltech, 17 pts
9. Whittier, 16 pts
https://thesciac.org/news/2023/8/23/tigers-picked-to-win-first-title-in-mens-soccer-preseason-poll.aspx
Enjoyed seeing how the voting played out. Looks like a lot of coaches voted for themselves to win league. Love that attitude.
Northwest Conference coaches poll is out
https://nwcsports.com/news/2023/8/30/lutes-tabbed-as-favorites-for-2023-mens-soccer-season.aspx
(Points awarded on an 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 basis. Coaches could not vote for their own teams; numbers in parentheses indicate first place votes)
Team. Pts. 2022 NWC Finish
Pacific Lutheran (5). 61 2nd
Willamette (4). 60. 1st
Whitman. 43. 3rd
Whitworth. 40. 5th
Linfield 33. 6th
Puget Sound. 33. 4th
Pacific. 25. 8th
George Fox. 21. 7th
Lewis & Clark. 8
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Cross-posting this from the Go WEST thread:
I thought it would be interesting to compare preseason polls with season-ending standings (pre-conference tournament ) to see how closely the Region X coaches pegged it for the three leagues that have concluded their regular seasons
Conclusion - you should pay attention to these preseason polls because the coaches were uncannily accurate for the most part!
SCIAC:
The coaches predicted it almost exactly, with only Cal Tech and La Verne flipping spots:
Preseason Poll
2023 SCIAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Occidental, 65 points (3 first-place votes)
2. Redlands, 63 pts (1)
3. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, 62 pts (1)
4. California Lutheran, 56 pts (1)
5. Chapman, 55 pts (2)
6. Pomona-Pitzer, 44 pts (1)
7. La Verne, 27 pts
8. Caltech, 17 pts
9. Whittier, 16 pts
Actual Finish
1. Occidental
2. Redlands
3. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps
4. Cal Lutheran
5. Chapman
6. Pomona-Pitzer
7. Cal Tech
8. La Verne
9. Whittier
SCAC:
Not quite as accurate as in the SCIAC, but they got the tournament teams right (albeit out of order) and the non-tournament teams exactly right.
Preseason Poll
1. University of St. Thomas (7) 79
2. Trinity University (2) 74
3. Colorado College 59
4. Southwestern University 57
5. Texas Lutheran University 45
6. Austin College 26
7. Schreiner University 25
8. Centenary College 21
9. University of Dallas 19
Actual Finish
1. Colorado College
2. Trinity
3. Southwestern
4. St. Thomas
5. Texas Lutheran
6. Austin
7. Schreiner
8. Centenary
9. Dallas
ASC:
They got the tournament teams right (albeit flipping UTD and Hardin-Simmons) and got the rest right except for Howard Payne, which over-performed.
2023 ASC Preseason Men's Soccer Poll
Team (First Place Votes) Points 2022 Record (ASC)
1. Mary Hardin-Baylor (10) 152 13-3-2 (7-1-1)
2. Concordia Texas (4) 138 10-3-4 (6-0-3)
3. UT Dallas (1) 117 9-6-4 (4-3-2)
4. Hardin-Simmons (1) 115 6-8-4 (5-4)
5. Ozarks (1) 81 10-5-5 (3-3-3)
6. LeTourneau 72 7-7-6 (3-4-2)
7. East Texas Baptist 58 7-7-3 (2-5-2)
8. McMurry (1) 48 5-9-3 (3-5-1)
9. Howard Payne 31 6-7-4 (3-4-2)
$ - Sul Ross State - 0-11-4 (0-7-2)
Actual Finish
1. Mary Hardin-Baylor
2. Concordia
3. Hardin-Simons
4. UT Dallas
5. Ozarks
6. Howard Payne
7. LeTourneau
8. McMurry
9. East Texas Baptist
10. Sul Ross State
Good judges! Thanks Kuiper
2023 Preseason CCIW Men's Soccer Coaches' Poll
1. North Park (5) 61
2. North Central (4) 59
3. Wheaton 47
4. Carthage 43
5. Carroll 33
6. Elmhurst 30
7. Illinois Wesleyan 27
T8. Augustana 12
T8. Millikin 12
2023 ACTUAL
1. North Central
2. Wheaton
3. North Park
4. Carthage
5. Elmhurst
6. Illinois Wesleyan
7. Carroll
8. Millikan
9. Augustana
Not sure the ODAC coaches did real well with this. Some big misses, but it's 13 teams and I think this gets a lot harder as the number of teams goes up. First two are right, but I suspect those were the easy ones. Roanoke was off by a couple. A slow non-conf start, the big win against W&L, but that was really it. Feel like this team underperformed, especially watching them play at W&L.
Big miss on Shenandoah, who is still alive in the Tournament. Not too hard to believe as a miss. The Hornets were awful last year and this is the first time they've won more than 3 conference games since joining the ODAC. Huge miss on EMU. Predicted to finish last, finished 5th. A solid miss on Guilford. This was a team expected to trend up and it didn't happen. Just a terrible season.
First round of the ODAC tournament all the chalk won by multiple goals and by shutout. So Shenandoah takes Roanoke's predicted place in the semis, but otherwise the coaches did get 3 of the final 4.
ODAC Preseason:
1) W&L
2) Lynchburg
3) Roanoke
4) Va Wesleyan
5) H-SC
6) R-MC
7) Bridgewater
8) Averett
9) Guilford
10) Shenandoah
11) Randolph
12) Ferrum
13) EMU
ODAC Actual:
1) W&L 8-1-1
2) Lynchburg 10-2-1
3) Va Wes 6-2-2
4) Shenandoah 5-2-3
5) EMU 4-3-3
6) Roanoke 5-5
7) HSC 3-3-4
8) Averett 3-3-4
9) RMC 3-4-3
10) Bridgewater 3-4-3
11) Randolph 2-3-5
12) Ferrum 1-9
13) Guilford 0-9-1
Things didn't go great in the HCAC. The eventual champ was picked tied for 4th. Half the teams were multiple spots different while just 3 teams were correctly placed.
2023 HCAC MEN'S SOCCER PRESEASON POLL
1. Rose-Hulman (7) 78
2. Hanover (2) 71
3. Transylvania (1) 70
t4. Anderson 50
t4. Manchester 50
6. Bluffton 42
7. Franklin 28
8. Defiance 23
9. Earlham 21
10. Mount St. Joseph 17
Actual
1) Manchester 6-0-3
2) Hanover 6-2-1
3) Rose-Hulman 6-2-1
4) Transylvania 4-3-2
5) Defiance 3-2-4
6) Bluffton 3-2-4
7) Anderson 3-5-1
8) Earlham 2-5-2
9) Franklin :( 2-5-2
10) Mount St Joseph 1-8-0