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Title: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: ronk on February 26, 2024, 04:32:21 PM
    NYU, DeSales, and Catholic are given poor hosting choices: NYU goes to a 1-seed(DeSales) instead of a 4/3/2 seed. Chair Dannelly said if I'm a 1-seed, I don't want to play at a 2-seed host; it's even worst than that being at a 1-seed.
    DeSales, being a 1-seed, shouldn't have another 1-seed(NYU) in its pod.
    Catholic, also a 1-seed, similarly, shouldn't have to play at another 1-seed(W&L).
    There must have been a complete lack of 4/3/2-seed schools putting in to host to justify these choices.
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2024, 04:44:19 PM

I talked to someone at DeSales.  They're stoked about this.  They expected they'd have to play at NYU in the second weekend, so, if they have to eventually play anyway, getting them at home is their best chance to win.

I suspect the committee decided to give hosting to the two teams who'd earned it, but lost the right due to geography.  They both seem to have been rewarded with weaker first round opponents to make up for second round challenges.

If you're a 1 seed, you expect to eventually play everyone anyway.  Is losing in the third round worse than losing in the second if you're good enough to be in the final four?

I'm sure the committee chair will be asked about it tonight on hoopsville.
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: ronk on February 26, 2024, 05:07:50 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on February 26, 2024, 04:44:19 PMI talked to someone at DeSales.  They're stoked about this.  They expected they'd have to play at NYU in the second weekend, so, if they have to eventually play anyway, getting them at home is their best chance to win.

I suspect the committee decided to give hosting to the two teams who'd earned it, but lost the right due to geography.  They both seem to have been rewarded with weaker first round opponents to make up for second round challenges.

If you're a 1 seed, you expect to eventually play everyone anyway. Is losing in the third round worse than losing in the second if you're good enough to be in the final four?

I'm sure the committee chair will be asked about it tonight on hoopsville.

 You've earned the right to give someone else the chance to beat a higher seed in the 2nd round so you don't have to play them in the 3rd round. That's why there is seeding in the tourney.
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: ppn512 on February 26, 2024, 07:03:15 PM
Desales is one of the top 16 teams? i don't think they are a 1 "seed" but i could be wrong. also have to remember we dont know every one who put in to host either in the w&l situation
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: FCGrizzliesGrad on March 05, 2024, 05:06:31 AM
There are 14 schools that made both Men and Women tournaments

Catholic:                        M: 2nd round;    W: 2nd round
Chris Newport:            M: 3rd round;  W: 2nd round
DeSales:                          M: 1st round;    W: 2nd round
Hope:                                M: 2nd round;  W: 3rd round
Marymount:                    M: 1st round;    W: 1st round
NYU:                                  M: 2nd round    W: 3rd round
Penn St-Harrisburg:    M: 2nd round    W: 1st round
SUNY New Paltz:        M: 1st round      W: 2nd round
Trine:                                    M: 3rd round    W: 2nd round
Trinity (CT):                      M: 3rd round    W: 1st round
Trinity (TX):                      M: 1st round    W: 2nd round
WashU:                              M: 3rd round    W: 1st round
Widener:                            M: 2nd round    W: 2nd round
Wisconsin Lutheran:    M: 1st round    W: 1st round

Men lasted longer for 5 schools (Chris Newport, PSU-Harrisburg, Trine, Trinity (CT), WashU)
Women for 5 schools (DeSales, Hope, NYU, New Paltz, Trinity (TX)),
Same round for 4 schools (Catholic, Marymount, Widener, Wisconsin Lutheran)

Six schools had both win at least one game (Catholic, Chris Newport, Hope, NYU, Trine, Widener)
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: RogK on March 16, 2024, 08:23:41 PM
Incidentally, as we watch the D3 WBB championship game, I'll note that it is in Bexley Ohio, not Columbus.
Near Columbus.
Title: Re: 2024 NCAA Tourney
Post by: RogK on March 16, 2024, 09:15:30 PM
Congrats to NYU, new national champs!
Congrats also to Smith College for an outstanding season. There are about 400 other D3 WBB teams who wished they had reached the title game.
I saw NYU in person once this season, at U of Chicago, and was impressed by their superb passing, plus their talent and agility among all sizes of players.