The at-large bids will be determined by the NPI, which used in the other sports this year. Thanks to Bmo who found this link.
Quote from: Bmo on April 11, 2025, 02:20:33 PMLooks like we have the first look at NPI numbers.
https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/43934
LaVerne 2
Claremont 10
Trinity 22
I'm rooting for Claremont to break into the top 8 to see what chaos will ensue in the West Regionals with the protected seeds.
The discussion proceeded to identify the "best" teams from Pool A conferences that were beyond #64, trying to identify how low a Pool C could go and still earn a bid. Bmo posted this, assuming the highest team listed from a Pool A conference would get the bid.
Quote from: Bmo on April 12, 2025, 09:09:10 PMQuick math shows 12:
Alfred St. (67)
Neumann (85)
Carthage (72)
Lasell (98)
Manchester (83)
Westfield St. (89)
Grinnell (128)
Husson (165)
Aurora (129)
Puget Sound (94)
Farmingdale St. (127)
Bethany Lutheran (156)
Ron Boerger posted the link to the Pre-season Championship Manual.
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 12, 2025, 11:39:18 AMSelection critera are the 41 Pool A conference winners and 23 Pool C teams from those not in Pool A in order of NPI. Regional rankings are basically meaningless as it's straight numerical order that determines those 23. But ... the NCAA will still publish them with the first out April 22.
There will be sixteen four-team regionals beginning May 16. The sixteen winners will meet in eight two-team super regionals. The regionals and super regionals are double-elimination format. The D3CWS will be in Eastlake, Ohio, May 30-June 5. Lots of other detail in the prechampionship manual: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/baseball/d3/2024-25D3MBA_PreChampionshipManual.pdf
Only 22 Pool C ... there are, if I counted correctly, 8 Pool B teams and thus one Pool B before the Pool Cs: Baruch, CCNY, John Jay, Lehman, Salisbury, CNU, Mary Washington, Marantha Baptist (assuming these are still correct given the egregious errors in the ASC and SCAC conference memberships).
Quote from: Ron Boerger on April 12, 2025, 10:39:06 PMOnly 22 Pool C ... there are, if I counted correctly, 8 Pool B teams and thus one Pool B before the Pool Cs: Baruch, CCNY, John Jay, Lehman, Salisbury, CNU, Mary Washington, Marantha Baptist (assuming these are still correct given the egregious errors in the ASC and SCAC conference memberships).
Since Salisbury at #5 is a virtual lock to get a bid then their bid likely comes from Pool B.
From this, 64 bids minus 12 teams below #64 suggests that #52 in the NPI is the last team in this week.
At #52, Arcadia from the MAC Freedom appears to be that conference's Pool A bid.
So #51 is the threshold this week.
I know the handbook still talks about Pool B, but you'll see there is no number of bids for B or C. It's just 23 at-large teams.
Wow, thanks. Whoever is reponsible for publishing that handbook in its current condition needs to find a new job.
The NPI has been updated to reflect games through Sunday. (https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/43972)
1. Johns Hopkins (27-3) 64.465
2. UW-Whitewater (21-2) 64.255
3. Denison (21-5) 62.821
4. Salibury (25-5) 62.706
5. La Verne (23-5) 62.161
6. Endicott (21-3) 61.918
7. Lynchburg (27-5) 61.091
8. Kean (25-5) 60.962
9. CWRU (20-9) 60.554
10. UW-La Crosse (19-6) 60.396
I ran thru the NPI from 04/13. Here are the at-large. The cut-off on 04/13 is at #48 Mary Washington.
#49 is Rutgers-Camden.
#50 is B'water
1) Salisbury
2) UW-La Crosse
3) Rowan
4) Millsaps
4a) Claremont M-S (error caught on 04/21)
5) UW-Oshkosh
6) Chicago
7) Buena vista
8) Belhaven
9) Emory
10) Montclair St
11) Ramapo
12) Ohio Northern
13) Oswego
14) Gettysburg
15) Cal Lu
16) Rhodes
17) Concordia TX
18) Spaulding
19) TCNJ
20) Bethel
21) McMurry
22) Mary Washington
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23) Rutgers-Camden at #49
24) B'water at #50
The NPI has been updated through games of the 20th (https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/44156?utf8=%E2%9C%93&commit=Submit):
1. Johns Hopkins (32-3) 65.748
2. UW-Whitewater (25-2) 64.203
3. Denison (25-5) 62.739
4. Kean (30-5) 62.630
5. La Verne (26-5) 62.295
6. Endicott (25-3) 62.184
7. Lynchburg (31-5) 61.466
8. Salisbury (26-7) 61.317
9. UW-La Crosse (24-6) 60.611
10. Case Western (22-10-1) 60.160
I ran thru the NPI from 04/20. Here are the at-large bids. The cut-off on 04/13 was at #49overall Rutgers-Camden and
#50 overall was B'water. This week, the cut-off is Randy-Mac at overall #44. Cal Lu is overall #45.
1) Salisbury -- was bid #1
2) UW La Crosse -- was bid #2
3) Rowan -- was bid #3
4) Claremont MS - was #5
5) Millsaps -- was #4
6) Belhaven -- was #9
7) Coe -- was Pool A; jumped by Buena Vista
8) Chicago -- was #7
9) UW Oshkosh -- was #6
10) Emory -- was #10
11) Cortland -- jumped by Brockport
12) Ramapo -- was #12
13) Bethel -- was #21
14) Concordia Texas -- was #18
15) Montclair State -- was #11
16) Babson -- was #58 overall and jumped a bunch of teams
17) Rhodes -- was #17
18) Wash U St L -- was #53 overall and jumped a bunch of teams
19) Ohio Northern -- was #13
20) Mary Washington -- was #23
21) McMurry -- was bid #22
22) Spalding -- was bid #19
23) Randy Mac -- was #59 overall and jumped a bunch of teams
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24) Cal Lu -- was bid #16
25) Gettysburg -- was bid #15
26) Shenandoah -- was #61 overall
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Corrections are always appreciated
Quote from: Ralph Turner on April 21, 2025, 08:15:24 PMHere are the at-large bids listed by ranking in the NPI
8) Salisbury
9) UW La Crosse
12) Rowan
16) Claremont MS
19) Millsaps
21) Belhaven
24) Coe
26) Chicago
27) UW Oshkosh
28) Emory
29) Cortland
30) Ramapo
31) Bethel
32) Concordia Texas
35) Montclair State
37) Babson
38) Rhodes
39) Wash U St L
40) Ohio Northern
41) Mary Washington
42) McMurry
43) Spalding
44) Randy Mac
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... and just look at these bubble-busters who are not dark horses in their conference tourneys
45) Cal Lu
47) Gettysburg
48) Shenandoah
49) Piedmont
50) Pomona-Pitzer
51) Rutgers-Camden
52) Wittenberg
53) Oswego State
54) Keystone
56) Redlands
Tip of the hat to D3Follower...
I am away from my database so I am not sure if I failed to detect an error in my working draft.
Brockport is E8.
Cortland is SUNYAC.
That may give us one more Pool C bid.
After a marathon game that lasted 4 hours and 12 minutes today, CWRU has clinched the 2025 UAA Baseball title and the first-ever UAA Baseball AQ to the NCAA DIII Baseball Tournament with a 25-18 win over Brandeis today. Game started at 12:30 PM ET and just ended at approx 4:42 PM ET. No rain delays, although the game was played off campus at Yetten Field at Waltham High School due to rain earlier today and rain in the forecast. The first 2 games of the Brandeis/CWRU series were played yesterday due to forecasted weather conditions.
That win, combined with losses by Chicago today and Emory yesterday, guarantees that CWRU will finish UAA play with the best win/loss percentage in UAA play (Minimum 15 UAA games played).
CWRU is now 13-5-1 in the UAA with 1 game left to play.
Emory is now 11-7 in the UAA with 2 games left to play.
UChicago is now 10-7 in the UAA with 3 games left to play.
Emory, UChicago, and WashU out of the UAA vying for 3 of the 23 at-large bids.
NPI updated thru 4/27 (https://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/44396?utf8=%E2%9C%93&commit=Submit):
6. La Verne (was 5)
12. Trinity (15)
21. CMS (16)
25. Concordia (32)
33. McMurry (42)
38. P-P (50)
50. CLU (45)
51. ETBU (34)
57. Redlands (56)
78. UMHB (113)
91. UPS (88)
[edit: oops, I meant to post this in the West Region thread, fairly obviously. Sorry!]
Pool C's thru the 04/27 NPI run
7) Salisbury
9) Rowan
10) UW-Lacrosse
17) Millsaps
21) CMS
22) Maryville
24) Emory
25) Concordia Texas
26) UW Oshkosh
28) Chicago
29) Randy Mac
30) Wash U St L
31) Ramapo
33) McMurry
35) Ohio Northern
36) Oswego
38) Pomona-Pitzer
39) Babson
40) Gettysburg
41) Piedmont
42) Montclair State
43) Keystone
44) Bethel MN
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45) Shenandoah
47) Wittenburg
48) Buena Vista
50) Cal Lu
52) Rutgers Camden
53) TCNJ
55) Spalding
Look at that; thru #44, there were 21 Pool A bids and 23 Pool C bids, with 20 Pool A bids to be awarded.
With Post-season conference tourneys, I have no idea how high up the bubble extends. Going 2-and-BBQ in a post-season tourney may destroy your NPI.
Dick, please elaborate. Also please consider the Receiving Votes teams in your comments.
Thx.
Quote from: Ralph Turner on Yesterday at 04:28:07 PMDick, please elaborate. Also please consider the Receiving Votes teams in your comments.
Thx.
I deleted my post. After looking through some previous "votes", I'm not positive the source providing the information are part of any official poll.
Thanks Dick.
I appreciate your re-assessment. With 23 at large bids, we are so deep into the pack, that the bubble teams can run the numbers on that game that they should not have lost and moan all off-season or for seniors, the rest of their lives. It was less objective in the Regional Rankings days, and the experts at D3baseball.com would have real disagreements with the final 2-3 selections at large. (They were understandable objections, but nevertheless the committee ruled.)