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Title: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Kuiper on September 09, 2025, 04:07:09 PM
Time to start the 2025 thread with the release of Poll #1 from the United Soccer Coaches. 

With NPI, this is basically just for fun and conversation, but it is fodder for social media and gives a sense of how the season is going for teams at a glance.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

National - Poll 1 - September 9, 2025
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    Denison University    6    4-0-0
2    Rowan University    RV    4-0-0
3    Emory University    NR    4-0-0
4    SUNY Cortland    RV    3-0-0
5    Williams College    10    1-0-1
6    Trinity University (Texas)    11    3-0-0
7    Augsburg University    NR    5-0-0
8    North Park University    NR    2-0-0
9    Middlebury College    3    1-0-1
10    Babson College    5    2-0-1
11    Dickinson College    8    2-0-2
12    Ohio Northern University    24    3-0-1
13    Southwestern University    NR    4-0-0
14    SUNY Oneonta    NR    3-0-1
15    Roanoke College    NR    3-0-0
16    Montclair State University    NR    3-0-1
17    Bowdoin College    NR    2-0-0
18    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    7    2-0-1
19    Catholic University    NR    3-0-0
20    Amherst College    1    1-0-1
21    Wheaton College (Mass.)    NR    2-0-1
22    St. Olaf College    RV    3-0-1
23    Illinois Institute of Technology    NR    3-0-0
24    University of Mary Washington    9    3-1-0
25    Trinity College    NR    1-0-1

Records shown are through games of September 7, 2025

Also receiving votes: Stockton University, Brandeis University, University of Mount Union, Plattsburgh State University, Gettysburg College, Gustavus Adolphus College, Case Western Reserve University, Colorado College, Hamilton College, Sewanee-University of the South, Tufts University, Johns Hopkins University
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: laker4141 on September 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on September 09, 2025, 04:07:09 PMTime to start the 2025 thread with the release of Poll #1 from the United Soccer Coaches. 

With NPI, this is basically just for fun and conversation, but it is fodder for social media and gives a sense of how the season is going for teams at a glance.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

National - Poll 1 - September 9, 2025
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    Denison University    6    4-0-0
2    Rowan University    RV    4-0-0
3    Emory University    NR    4-0-0
4    SUNY Cortland    RV    3-0-0
5    Williams College    10    1-0-1
6    Trinity University (Texas)    11    3-0-0
7    Augsburg University    NR    5-0-0
8    North Park University    NR    2-0-0
9    Middlebury College    3    1-0-1
10    Babson College    5    2-0-1
11    Dickinson College    8    2-0-2
12    Ohio Northern University    24    3-0-1
13    Southwestern University    NR    4-0-0
14    SUNY Oneonta    NR    3-0-1
15    Roanoke College    NR    3-0-0
16    Montclair State University    NR    3-0-1
17    Bowdoin College    NR    2-0-0
18    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    7    2-0-1
19    Catholic University    NR    3-0-0
20    Amherst College    1    1-0-1
21    Wheaton College (Mass.)    NR    2-0-1
22    St. Olaf College    RV    3-0-1
23    Illinois Institute of Technology    NR    3-0-0
24    University of Mary Washington    9    3-1-0
25    Trinity College    NR    1-0-1

Records shown are through games of September 7, 2025

Also receiving votes: Stockton University, Brandeis University, University of Mount Union, Plattsburgh State University, Gettysburg College, Gustavus Adolphus College, Case Western Reserve University, Colorado College, Hamilton College, Sewanee-University of the South, Tufts University, Johns Hopkins University


I know it is extremely early, but this poll is already showing the continued incompetence of United Soccer Coaches when it comes to rankings. The regional rankings are further proof. Something to monitor throughout the year, but as stated above, thank goodness for NPI!
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: SierraFD3soccer on September 10, 2025, 09:29:17 PM
Is that Trinity NESCAC? If so, when was the last time Trinity got ranked?
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Ejay on September 11, 2025, 07:20:14 AM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on September 10, 2025, 09:29:17 PMIs that Trinity NESCAC? If so, when was the last time Trinity got ranked?

Ok, now this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Ron Boerger on September 11, 2025, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on September 10, 2025, 09:29:17 PMIs that Trinity NESCAC? If so, when was the last time Trinity got ranked?

Trinity College (CT) is NESCAC.  Trinity University (TX) is SAA.

With Tuesday's 2-0 win over USJ, Trinity (CT) has already won as many matches as all of last season.
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Kuiper on September 11, 2025, 10:18:43 AM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 11, 2025, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on September 10, 2025, 09:29:17 PMIs that Trinity NESCAC? If so, when was the last time Trinity got ranked?

Trinity College (CT) is NESCAC.  Trinity University (TX) is SAA.

With Tuesday's 2-0 win over USJ, Trinity (CT) has already won as many matches as all of last season.

Total East Coast bias here!  If they were going to honor a loveable loser for winning an early season game or two, Caltech is 3-1 and Pomona-Pitzer is 4-0!  (Seriously, though, if it wasn't just a few coaches picking the wrong "Trinity" by mistake, this may have been one of those deals where coaches saw Trinity's win over University of St. Joseph's (CT), recalled that USJ won a lot of games last season and lost in the 1st round of the NCAA tournament to Wesleyan 2-0, and decided Trinity must have turned the corner without realizing that USJ lost to Wheaton (MA) 9-1 in its previous game).
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Hopkins92 on September 11, 2025, 01:12:48 PM
IF so, another reason the coaches polling in most sports is pretty flawed. It's not like they would've had a ton of results to pore over to dig that fact up. 9-1 kind of jumps off the page, right?
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: SierraFD3soccer on September 11, 2025, 02:33:53 PM
Quote from: Ron Boerger on September 11, 2025, 10:07:12 AM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on September 10, 2025, 09:29:17 PMIs that Trinity NESCAC? If so, when was the last time Trinity got ranked?

Trinity College (CT) is NESCAC.  Trinity University (TX) is SAA.

With Tuesday's 2-0 win over USJ, Trinity (CT) has already won as many matches as all of last season.

Obviously, Trinity (CT) Bantams are going all the way!!!
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: SKUD on September 11, 2025, 04:59:11 PM
And The TX Trinity will keep the bus warm for halftime!
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2025, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: laker4141 on September 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on September 09, 2025, 04:07:09 PMTime to start the 2025 thread with the release of Poll #1 from the United Soccer Coaches. 

With NPI, this is basically just for fun and conversation, but it is fodder for social media and gives a sense of how the season is going for teams at a glance.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

National - Poll 1 - September 9, 2025
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    Denison University    6    4-0-0
2    Rowan University    RV    4-0-0
3    Emory University    NR    4-0-0
4    SUNY Cortland    RV    3-0-0
5    Williams College    10    1-0-1
6    Trinity University (Texas)    11    3-0-0
7    Augsburg University    NR    5-0-0
8    North Park University    NR    2-0-0
9    Middlebury College    3    1-0-1
10    Babson College    5    2-0-1
11    Dickinson College    8    2-0-2
12    Ohio Northern University    24    3-0-1
13    Southwestern University    NR    4-0-0
14    SUNY Oneonta    NR    3-0-1
15    Roanoke College    NR    3-0-0
16    Montclair State University    NR    3-0-1
17    Bowdoin College    NR    2-0-0
18    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    7    2-0-1
19    Catholic University    NR    3-0-0
20    Amherst College    1    1-0-1
21    Wheaton College (Mass.)    NR    2-0-1
22    St. Olaf College    RV    3-0-1
23    Illinois Institute of Technology    NR    3-0-0
24    University of Mary Washington    9    3-1-0
25    Trinity College    NR    1-0-1

Records shown are through games of September 7, 2025

Also receiving votes: Stockton University, Brandeis University, University of Mount Union, Plattsburgh State University, Gettysburg College, Gustavus Adolphus College, Case Western Reserve University, Colorado College, Hamilton College, Sewanee-University of the South, Tufts University, Johns Hopkins University


I know it is extremely early, but this poll is already showing the continued incompetence of United Soccer Coaches when it comes to rankings. The regional rankings are further proof. Something to monitor throughout the year, but as stated above, thank goodness for NPI!


For what it's worth, we're not taking the #8 too seriously at North Park. Sure, it's popped up in NPU press releases, but that's just PR in order to garner interest and draw viewers to our Viking Sports Network livestreams. And, yes, the Vikings are good this season, but everyone's well aware that a jump from no preseason votes at all to #8 only two games in is pretty ridiculous.

It really just makes me miss the D3soccer.com guys and their poll all the more.
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: SimpleCoach on September 11, 2025, 06:53:23 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on September 11, 2025, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: laker4141 on September 10, 2025, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on September 09, 2025, 04:07:09 PMTime to start the 2025 thread with the release of Poll #1 from the United Soccer Coaches. 

With NPI, this is basically just for fun and conversation, but it is fodder for social media and gives a sense of how the season is going for teams at a glance.

https://unitedsoccercoaches.org/rankings/college-rankings/ncaa-diii-men/

National - Poll 1 - September 9, 2025
Rank    School    Prev    W-L-T
1    Denison University    6    4-0-0
2    Rowan University    RV    4-0-0
3    Emory University    NR    4-0-0
4    SUNY Cortland    RV    3-0-0
5    Williams College    10    1-0-1
6    Trinity University (Texas)    11    3-0-0
7    Augsburg University    NR    5-0-0
8    North Park University    NR    2-0-0
9    Middlebury College    3    1-0-1
10    Babson College    5    2-0-1
11    Dickinson College    8    2-0-2
12    Ohio Northern University    24    3-0-1
13    Southwestern University    NR    4-0-0
14    SUNY Oneonta    NR    3-0-1
15    Roanoke College    NR    3-0-0
16    Montclair State University    NR    3-0-1
17    Bowdoin College    NR    2-0-0
18    University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire    7    2-0-1
19    Catholic University    NR    3-0-0
20    Amherst College    1    1-0-1
21    Wheaton College (Mass.)    NR    2-0-1
22    St. Olaf College    RV    3-0-1
23    Illinois Institute of Technology    NR    3-0-0
24    University of Mary Washington    9    3-1-0
25    Trinity College    NR    1-0-1

Records shown are through games of September 7, 2025

Also receiving votes: Stockton University, Brandeis University, University of Mount Union, Plattsburgh State University, Gettysburg College, Gustavus Adolphus College, Case Western Reserve University, Colorado College, Hamilton College, Sewanee-University of the South, Tufts University, Johns Hopkins University

It really just makes me miss the D3soccer.com guys and their poll all the more.

Soon.... soon....

SC.
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Hopkins92 on September 11, 2025, 09:46:25 PM
I should expand on my comment upthread. Coaches polls are dumb.

(tempted to leave it at that)

These guys are busy. It's not their job to find the 9-1 loss on a team that is secondarily removed from what appears to be a "good result."

But, as Mr. Sager implies, we get what we get and we don't get upset.

Simple Coach has his biases (which I often share) but you know he's going to look at the entire picture, because... He has devoted the time to do so.

I know I'm stating the obvious to many, but I sort of feel like this board needs more real talk.
Title: Re: USC Rankings 2025
Post by: Freddyfud on September 11, 2025, 11:55:16 PM
I look forward to the SC poll for the reasoning, which the other polls lack.  Probably even more so this year because run away teams are still not clear to me at least. 

It was around this point a year ago a loaded MWU squad was #1. Who are this year's MWU and why?