I dont know that Mount should move up.  You cant fault Kehres for being in a great situation and taking advantage of it. 

If they are too successful, maybe the NCAA should ask Southern Cal to tone it down as well???  Or maybe Grand Valley should move to 1AA??? 

As Bobby Bowden told Lou Holtz..."It's not my job to coach your team.  If you dont like it, coach better, recruit better, or change the schedule."

I am waiting for Florida and California to figure out how to play d3 football.  That would be intersting...

I dont think that the climate is the same for Lyco any more.  The things that Coach G was able to do to build his program 30 years ago, will not work anymore.

Other teams in the conference have made as big or bigger commitment to their facilities.

Other teams in the conference have made as big or bigger commitment to the recruiting.

Other teams in the conference have made as big or bigger commitment to their coaches salaries.

Other teams in the conference are closer to the talent pool of the Philly area.

Coach G is a product of timing, not coaching talent.  He got into the game when it was ripe for the picking, so he gets credit for that.  But for him to rebuild Lycoming into a national power again?  I just dont see it happening with so many other teams stepping up.  The recruits will be spread a little thinner.  The location of the school will be a bigger factor.  The facilities Lycoming has arent as shiny and new as they once were.

The Jones' have caught up to Lyco.  It is just not the same place that it once was, except for the arrogance from its fans, coaches, and players.

Quote from: HouseCalls on November 14, 2005, 09:28:12 PM
Patron2 to say Lyco is done come on, every dynasty falls but eventually they will rebuild again.  Lycoming College Football really put MAC football on the map in the late 80s and the 90s. Hell coach G has more wins by himself than a lot of other programs do in the MAC.  Lyco represented the MAC twice in the Stagg Bowl and a lot of playoff appearances. So the great one ,Girardi, will have his program back.  A person with his experience, you never count him and his team out. 

Congrats to Wilkes on getting a bid.  I hope they do well so no more MAC teams ranked in the nation, but second in the conference ever have to sit at home again.

Here's to Wilkes, but here's to Widener, Lycoming, etc who had great teams but were overlooked.

Lyco is done tho...

Dont worry bro, the fork will be stuck even further.  I love how you crow about a 6-4 season.  Must be tough to swallow after so many years of winning a lot of games.

The fork in Lyco will be dug even further next year and the year after.  If you think kids from the Philly area are driving by DVC, Widener, and the sparkling new facilities at Albright to play in Williamsport, you have another thing coming.  Good luck spreading the Scranton talent pool with Wilkes and Kings.

Lycomings slide has begun.

It would take more then milk cartons.. Search and rescue dogs, the national guard, etc..

Quote from: Lyco80 on November 06, 2005, 07:18:37 PM
It is good to know that you are not lost since I was about to initiate a milk carton campaign in hopes of locating you, Patron 2.

Concur with Mojo in regards to MAC parity.  The pending desertion of Susquehanna, Juniata and Moravian will alter things.  How much so is a matter of speculation.  However, the remaining teams will continue to hold Fall weekly slugfests that will sometimes depend upon turnovers, penalties and field conditions for the winners and losers.

Not sure what your hostility to Lycoming is but that a demon you will have to exorcise yourself - sorry but I cannot help you with it myself.

Winning seasons, MAC championships, NCAA appearances, twice in the Stagg bowl in the 1990s, all point to a tradition of excellence and success.  I remain quite bullish on Lycoming's stock and am sorry you think I am pounding my chest when I am merely trying to call attention to facts - not feelings.

Regardless, I am delighted you are a poster and am glad to see you took the bait and responded.  Witty repartee is most welcome.

Go Warriors !

All the best.

Dont worry man... Here I am!!!

Put a fork in Lyco!!

I am sure you are so thrilled to post about winning the last four straight when Lyco has such a great tradition..  It must tickle you to death to pound your chest that Lyco has had such a great season.

Dont worry man, soon enough Lyco will be completely finished... The power will shift to DVC, Albright, and Widener has always had a pretty good team...

Lycoming's slide isnt over.  They will lose more games next year too.

I think G is an average coach at best, but has done a great job with superior talent.  Now that his talent is gone, looks like you find out exactly how average he is..

If you want to see good coaching, go to schools that are building tradition, and winning games without everything that G has had at Lycoming... DVC, Albright, Moravian, etc.

Lycoming is done.  Put a fork in 'em.

Other then losing one helluva football coach, what has happened at PLU to get them to 1-4?

My mother begged me to go and play for Frosty... I should have listened.

MOJO,

How bout the coaches at LVC just get after the smart kids and let the dumb ones go somewhere else?? Odds are, if they are that dumb, they wont make it long at the school anyways... Trust me, you wont win many games playing freshmen and sophomores every year.

I would tell you to check out the gpas of the kids committed to Charlie Weis and Notre Dame, but I think you would just come back with more blabble and whining about academic standards.

It is, what it is.  As soon as LVC starts putting effort into the things they do have, instead of worrying about what they dont - maybe they will get some better kids and win some more games.

There is no other sport that has such an uneven playing field as D3 football.  Academic standards, financial aid, etc... There is no even playing field.  Get over it.  It isnt going to change.  It is, what it is.

I have zero doubt that if some coaching staffs put the same effort into recruiting that they put into whining about their situation, they would be more competive.

What position will the bulletin board play for Lyco?  Or maybe the bulletin board could coach???

Lyco is done.  Those kids are gonna pack it in just like they did last year.

Quote from: Dynasty07 on October 07, 2005, 10:48:24 AM
mud bowls this weekend, reminiscent of last year... the beauty

Not unless you are playing on the beautiful new surface at Shirk Stadium...

If money, location, and facilities are not the reason for Lycoming's demise... Could it be that the coaching staff there cant coach their way out of a paper bag?

Shoot, if Lyco is so talented because they were in the playoffs a couple years ago, surely the roster is loaded... Must be the coaches..

There are too many factors going against Lyco now.. It just isnt the same as 10 yrs ago...

The Philly suburbs have the cash to pay for a private university education.. Lyco is 3+ hours from there..

Albright & Del Val have both stepped up the wins... Keeping more local kids home..

Widener has always been Widener (usually have a good team), so now even more Philly kids are staying home..

Now Lyco has 2nd rate facilities in the conference.  They are now the school trying to "keep up with the Jones'..."

I keep reading all these posts about money and financial aid, etc.  Scranton and Williamsport arent exactly the most affluent areas in PA.  D3 football is a rich kid or a poor kid with grades game.

If I were Girardi, I would start beating up Pittsburgh to pull kids away from W&J.

Nice ride for Lyco, it's over.

Lycoming is done.  Great ride, its over.

The MAC title will go thru DVC, Widener, and Albright.  Mark my words.