I think the conf. tournament gives greater props.... at least in the LMC. Who cares about who wins the league...They dont even make it to the post season!

WLC is well coached... i think.  They all play hard and they are all very aggressive on the court. I don't think their gaurds are that good. I like their big guy who can step out and shoot. If he goes off against Hope, WLC could have a small chance.

They hack, bite, scratch, hold.... and usually get called for loads of fouls. Its what works for them so i guess why not. If metzger suits up, i still think they would lose by 12.

I think that WLC has a decent shot to take out edgewood as they have home court and seem to be on a roll.  WLC and Edgewood finished the year hot... opposed to lakeland and msoe who sucked it up when it mattered.  I am going with edgewood by 7 just because i know WLC would get destroyed in the first round if they happened to pull out the W.

Man what is wrong with people these days.  Peetes didnt even need a beer dumped on him like Ron Ron did.

Let me guess. The fan doesnt want money and will drop all charges if he gets a public apology and a donation in his name to the battered woman and childrens fund.

Not suprised by any of the teams that advanced this weekend - WLC, Lakeland, Edgewood, Marian.  I didn't attend the Marian/MSOE game, but again, i am not suprised about the loss for MSOE.  I was looking at the boxscore and trying to figure out what the hell happened..... Should there be any finger pointing? players/coaches? I mean this team was 16-5. Finishing the year losing 4 of 5.  I will pick WLC over Marian and Lakeland over Edgewood.

I was thinking of going to watch the carrol vs. lu game this week. I am picking carrol in an upset.  You are right -- even if carrol wins LU will have a good shot at a bye (i would think).  

Downtown-- You dont think i realize that marian beat MSOE. I know they havent been to hot, but i think they will make it to the championship game with out to many problems.

If lakeland/msoe whoever win the tournament. I think there is a good chance they will play lawrence. Even though MSOE tanked early this year to LU, the game wasnt as bad as the score showed and i think either team would have a decent shot at an upset.

I dont think WLC has much of a chance to make it to the final -- Just my opinion.

I was not at the Lakeland/MSOE game but it sounded like it was a good game. MSOE had the lead late in the 2nd half and couldnt seal the deal.  I am not sure what miller has up his sweater vest, but it better be something good if he wants to beat Lakeland....and for that matter Marian.  For the 1st round my picks are:

LC over MBBC
MSOE over Marian
Concordia over WLC
Edgewood over dominican

How can anyone pick LC over MBBC as the blowout special?  I wouldnt be suprised if Maranatha didnt even show up... thanks Guru!

The coaches vote a number system and rank people like 1-6 (something like that). The person who averages the highest gets POY(I am not sure if coaches can vote for their own player, or if they have to show the other coaches their picks....i was told they do have to show).

Thinking about who the coaches would vote for and leave off based on spite..... I dont think bayhia will get the votes from the coaches. I dont think cooper, averkamp, or peets will get the votes either. I dont think WLC, Marian, Maranatha, and Dominican have a possible POY. I think that narrows it down to Saberlich, James, Mikos, and possibly bayiha. I know people think Lakeland is a great team and it kinda shadows the stars or whatever. I think that will have the same problem with bayiha and mikos.

I think its to soon to tell who will jump ahead because those 4 are pretty close with the most important games left to come.

Feb. 9 Concordia (Ill.) @ Dominican --- Dominican by 12
Feb. 9 Maranatha @ Concordia (Wis.)* ---Concordia by 21
Feb. 11 Maranatha @ Marian* ---Marian by 18
Feb. 11 MSOE @ Lakeland* ----
Feb. 11 Wis. Lutheran @ Edgewood* ---- Edgewood by 14

Fishguy:
Im pretty sure he reads this forum.  I asked a couple people if they have any isos besides their offense. The response was that there are a few set plays that are pretty good, only there is always somebody who doesnt know the play and f's it up. Im not gonna hate on miller(anymore), but i think we can all agree its partly the coaches responsibility to make sure people know the plays.

Also, even though im not sure if they can win the tournament, they have a chance. I would say they are still going to be in the championship @ lakeland.

bust-yall - gordon bombay  -- whatever your name is... are you one of the "6th man" in the Xtra small tee shirts?

I still think MSOE is a contender in the conf. tournament. I think coach miller blew their chance at a title with some questionable moves. I hope the guy knows what he is doing because he is losing bayiha and mikos after this year.

Coach miller im sure you read this. Shorten your F'in bench to 8 maybe 9 F'in people please.  Run some pick n roles for mikos and bayiha and let them play to their strenghs instead of running your bootleg offense that only appears to be good at running out the shotclock.

Ok thats enough hating from me!

Since i have only seen Lakeland one time, i may not be correct in assuming this, but i will anyways. I noticed that when Lakeland whooped MSOE, they were packing it in the paint when Mikos and Floyd had the ball... forcing them to shoot outside which of course both of them would rather slash and dish.  That kid from Benedictine was hitting everything and it looks like Lakeland couldnt hit anything.  MSOE beat both of those teams easy so i dont know what to think either.  Its a game of matchups and Lakeland matchs up good with MSOE since they are deep and MSOE's lack of shooting(and all around offense) and defense from 1-5.

When lakeland plays MSOE next week, i would do the same thing and take away the dribble pen. and make em shoot... cause MSOE doesnt have anyone who is going to go 8-12 from 3point range and im sure saiberlich will not disappear.

Yeah MSOE lost to Lakeland. Granted they led for all but 2 or 3 minutes in the first half. They did have the lead down to 4 or 5 with 8 minutes left and it killed them that floyd and mikos were in fould trouble for most of the game.  One of mikos'chargers was a charge, the other fouls were mostly question marks in my mind considering how physical lakeland plays.  Lakeland is as solid as advertised right down to keeping their emotions in control -- cant say that about MSOE and their coach. Maybe if he spent more time coaching instead of complaining, the game would have been closer.  I have to question several of his substitutions and i can only hope he is trying to build a team that can make a run in the tournament.  I have to question why MSOE didnt have any set plays for their stars down the stretch.  I also question why MIkos is passing the ball instead of taking it to the rack like a POY would do.  Very disappointing.  They also at times couldnt get a rebound to save their life.... or gaurd lakelands big guys outside.  At least MSOE swept WLC....

And to clarify -- Floyd got t'd up vs WLC not miller and Benedctine is not a good test... they arent to good this year.

"I just hope James and Saiberlich don't read this and post it in the lockeroom for the rest of the gyus to see."

They could make wallpaper out of it and thats not going to change a thing.  More power to em if they do beat em. I think you will be suprised. If marquette can beat Uconn anything can happen.

Thats a little out of context. I was trying to say they can stop them this year and know how to(playing defense blah blah). Not that they have owned them in the past. But i do remember a loss you didnt mention and i think they beat them in the conference tournament the year before that also.

03/01/03     ~ at Lakeland College    W    91-87

"Lakeland has the best team though." -- Thats why they play the games.  Lakeland couldnt beat WLC at home and MSOE did.

"Are you kidding me?  A goldfish would still figure out a way to get out of it's bowl if Floyd was in charge of guarding it!  lol.  Lakeland looks real good and should win by 9 or more. "  -- What are you talking about? He is a really good defender and im not even a sleepy floyd fan!


 

First off, I was at the WLC vs. MSOE game this weekend and this WLC team is a disgrace to their years past teams.  They are all poor sports down to their "6th man" and head coach.  I think Noon and his team didn't have the talent so he told them to start throwing elbows and bltch to the refs.  MSOE didn't have as many fouls because they didn't foul as much. The refs could have easily added more fouls either way. MSOE kept their cool even though the ball and calls were not always going their way. I don't know how many times I saw MSOE players driving and getting hammered with out a call.  I talked with several WLC fans after the game and they couldn't believe how the warriors were acting on the court. 

Old school: Not sure how bad the edgewood players were, but WLC got 3 techs I think and MSOE got 1 which was in my mind, a make up tech.  So I am going to say that WLC took whining to a pro bowl level and edgewood is just being edgwood.

My tuff love session...
I think coach miller isn't using his talent the way he should. Granted he did get 40 out of floyd, he wont score 40 against Lakeland. Mikos could have easily went off against WLC but there was never a lane for him to drive in(spacing by MSOE was horrible and there is always a post player camping on the block).  Mikos is best driving and coach miller didn't even open it up for him.  Also, Props to Hagel on a big game and some nice shooting, but why in the hell did msoe always leave him? Its not like he was JJ reddick coming off triple screens fading off the dribble.  They also need to get better rebounding all around offensive and defensive... that just isn't gonna get it done in big games.

Now, on to the Lakeland game.  I will be in attendance and am going to pick MSOE in single digits.  They know how to stop Lakeland and I think you are going to see MSOEs guards shutdown the 3point shooting and force Lakeland to go inside. Lakeland probably has depth on MSOE, but MSOE has the best point and shooting guards in the conference.  MIkos and floyd can d it up and they are not going to lose at home.