Quote from: Adam Sayer on August 25, 2008, 08:08:26 PM
And has someone posted on MHB's conference website about Rashon Lewis's attitude problems?

Should anyone really go that far?

I mean, can't we assume that he will be the element of his own demise, without our input?  He's already there, so trying to 'warn' them is really pointless now.

Let him be, in my opinion.  Maybe they will shape him up, and if not, he will just ship out again, right?

Besides, we don't know exactly what kind of program MHB runs anyways, they might stick Rashon on the bottom of the depth chart and have him wearing the ball cap during games, making him practically harmless.

Well, a muffle would probably have to be added as well.

And a straight jacket.

Oh hell, just don't dress him if you're that worried about his behavior.

Long time no talking fellas, what's been going on?

Off-season pace of these forums looks like a drag, glad I didn't stick around too much.

Anyways, that's not the point.

I'm comming home to do some Observation and Participation practicum from April 25-May 8.  I wouldn't mind seeing some of your ugly faces again, PM me and I'll send you my cell.

Also, you will see me at my good friend Matt Maupin's funeral on the 27th, should be in Paul Brown Stadium as they are bringing his body in from Iraq.

Interesting, that should be the same day I swear into the National Guard.


Take care fellas, hope to see some of you soon.

All this talk about Pryor going to OSU, which obviously is huge...

But what about this kid from Texas named Sam McGuffie going to Michigan?  I heard a lot about him this last fall but haven't heard much since.  Anyone else heard of him?

From my experience about MUC, and only judging from my experience (the game tape studying, and the playoff game against MUC national champ team) I could come up with a few things.  First of all, they don't have D1 talent, with few acceptions.  Pierre Garcon is an extraordinary reciever, his speed is unrivaled in D3.  Other than him, the rest are just really solid players.  Could most or all of them play on a higher level?  Sure, but the same can be said for most of the best players of each team across all of D3.
I wouldn't say MUC's success is a direct result of the level of talent, but due more to the absolute philosophy of the program.  From the dedication and skill of the coaches, down to the dedication and skill of the players.  On film they were obviously talented, but their schemes were not too amazing and their plays not unbelievable.  Honestly, on film, MUC looked like a beatable team.
It was mentioned earlier that they make no mistakes, and I will attest to that.  They are extremely disciplined, and when mixed with the coaches and players' talents, obviously makes a winning program.  They simply seem to have the whole package, and that's why they win.  Having rediculous amounts of walk-on players helps raise the talent pool as well as increase the amount of dedication that players who start will need to maintain their position.  Player accountability is a must.  It's a program that works.
All of this comes down to the final point, that makes any football team better, is the degree of high expectations.  Players at MUC know what is expected of them, and so do coaches of themselves as well.  This takes the atmosphere of a program from "You should win," up to "You must win," and finally reaching the point of "You will win."  They don't need to leave campus to recruit in a program like that.  Winners gravitate there, and the program reciprocates itself.

Ok, so it sounds like I'm glorifying MUC, but the truth is they've won how many national titles in the past decade and a half?  My point exactly.  They've obviously done something right to get where they are and if I were a head coach in D3 I would look back to where it all started and try to model my program after that.

In the end, understand that MUC is still a beatable team.  You just have to have a respective degree of talent and determination, but most of all poise.  Hey, even Ohio State can lose to Illinois.......

QuoteMount Union Bracket
1. Mount Union (A)
2. Wabash (A)
3. Case Western Reserve (B)
4. Franklin (A)
5. Mt. St. Joseph (C)
6. North Central (A)
7. Capital (C)
8. Olivet (A)
Despite Wabash's loss, we kept them in the No. 2 slot, giving them the nod based on a significantly higher opponents' winning percentage. The traditional pairings get broken up here a little, as Mt. St. Joseph and Franklin wouldn't play again in the first round. Olivet travels to Mount Union, Capital to Wabash, North Central to Franklin and Mt. St. Joseph to Case.

According to D3football.com, MSJ doesn't have to travel to Wasbash.  Instead they get to face off against CWRU.  I would only hope that they are correct.  Franklin gets to host North Central at home where the bees sting opposing teams as they warm up.

Sayer, although I agree with you about CWRU, wouldn't putting them as a 2 seed be like pairing an unbeaten Boise State team against a Big 12 powerhouse Oklahoma team in a BCS bowl?...........
Just trying to make ya think.

Great job MSJ and FC!  FC has the firepower to make something special of this post season.  I'm praying for MSJ to make it in - it would only make sense with Wheaton losing.

Big congrats to the HCAC for getting a potential two teams into the playoffs.  MSJ has a solid team and if they can pull an upset wouldn't we all LOVE an HCAC rematch in the second round.  I could only dream of such an awesome occurance.

Either way, good job again to the Grizzlies and Lions.

Oh, and way to bring the Bridge Bowl back as well.

The Bridgebowl meant more than just another game when we knew we didn't have playoffs to look forward too..

Funny because the only two Bridgebowls I won were when we knew we had another week of football to follow.  The first two years we tried to define our 'mediocre' seasons by taking the Bridge Bowl back, only to get trounced once and then lose via missed tackle by a freshman after a blocked punt in "the shootout at Mariemont."

That's why my Junior year -  the Bridgebowl really meant something.  Not just winning a rivalry game, but so many bigger things.  It mean redemption for the last two losses, it meant recruiting tools in the area, it meant bragging rights, it meant taking that ugly ass ceramic pos back home for the first time ever in the rivalry series.

But most of all, it meant completing a perfect 10-0 season with an away win against our rival school - something so few will ever get a chance to do ever, if even all in one single game.

The Lions pounced the Saints on the muddiest field in Kentucky that day and it was glorious.  Probably the one game I'll remember the most of, honestly.


My senior year, due to high expectations, we kinda overlooked the Bridge Bowl game, looking deeper into the playoff picture than just one week.  We kept the Bowl in place but our playoff dream was definately not to be...

To the seniors of both MSJ and TMC, I say this: The Bridge Bowl has more history than any of you or us were ever a part of, so respect it and go out there and support your school by getting after it - no matter what your season was like.  The Bridge Bowl is in a way, as Sayer says, just another game, but being the last game of the season makes it more special than just a rival game - it may not define you but it will put a nice stamp on a college football career that you'll remember, if you care.  It will mean something other than just some ugly ceramic over-sized Bowl.  At least that's the way I see it.

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 09, 2007, 08:19:25 AMONLY would an ex Mount St Joe player become a cheerleader.  Says something about whats going on up there in Delhi.  My God...

Nothing a partial scholarship and chance to toss around a bunch of hot chicks wouldn't do to convince anyone else to do the same.  Other than the weightloss, it speaks more to the type of athlete MSJ can make you, if you even knew how hard it is to do a back tuck or hold someone above you with one arm.  8)
But like Hubie used to say, "we're not all about that highschool 'RA RA' bull****."

Back to the game, MSJ will beat Frankling in the second half pending a lack of mistakes and turnovers.  From the poise I witnessed up at AU, the Lions offense has their **** together and its more than likely the Hubie will have them ready and serious.  Pete Carrol can assure us that in this game, on all levels, anything can happen.  Go Lions.

Speaking of being in shape, you should see me in my new team uniform Sayer and Teepee.  Never thought I would have a calling in Competitive Cheerleading, but God works in mysterious ways.

What's with Luke Dillon's huge numbers?  Good for him and all, but can we get some love in the stat column for Mike Jones? (Who?)

Hey guys, been a while but I still stop in to read.  Been up here at Indiana Wesleyan University finishing up my school.  I start student teaching this spring so it won't be long until I join the ranks of some Cincy-area high school  .  It's a little late (a week late to be exact) but I went to the Anderson - MSJ game last weekend since Anderson is just down the road from here in Marion, In.  I must say I'm pretty impressed with this years Mount team.  It's not the usual "cataclysmic destruction" defense that I'm used to seeing, but they got the job done.  The offense is what really got me excited, although it was a bit nestaulgic watching the Soriano-style offense (being lead by an Anderson High QB no doubt).  Playing against them in high school was rough enough so I can almost sympathize for MSJ's opponents' defenses.  That man can coordinate an offense, and he has the Lions geared in the right direction.  They really seemed poised and confident.  56 points against Hanover, I believe that's a Mount record, beating my freshman year mark of 51 over Hiram.  Go Lions go.
I'm debating on making an appearance at the Franklin game.  I may be in town but not sure yet, plus I want to see some of y'alls ugly mugs anyways.  Being up here in Indiana has me missing the Cincy-love from back home.  I won't talk about the Bengals though, it's just too hard right now.  I'll just stay focused on the Bucks and my MSJ Lions, who, as Sayer so adequetly put it, will inevitably 4-peat.  Get those rings fellas, one game at time!

I must say that as an MSJ alum who played against Wheaton in the playoffs a few years back, I was both excited and a little nervous to hear of them picking up a CCIW team in place of Kalamazoo (who broke contract and canceled).  It was nice not just to play a caliber team from up north but also a team that showed poise even when struggling against an overpowering defense.  IWU, like I said, had big guys and some talented offensive players, the QB looked like he had a nice arm.  There were a good number of "doh" penalties by the IWU offense like false starts that gave them a lot of long 3rd downs, that if not occuring I'd bet the game would have been closer.

Overall, I'm very pleased that MSJ is raising the quality of teams in their non-conference schedule (being that the OAC team we play isn't really "OAC" caliber) and I hope this turns out to be a very productive relationship for both teams.  Goodluck to IWU in the rest of the season.

Quote from: devildog29 on September 16, 2006, 05:56:53 PM
TitanBacker, from what I listened to the game it was one of those "the score didn't reflect the game" type of games.  I'm not saying IWU should have won, their offense didn't do much at all.  Only one of MSJ's td's, however, came off a sustained drive, which was the opening drive of the 2nd half.  Their 1st td came at the end of the first half off a halfback pass that put them inside the 5 then they scored.  The 3rd td was an INT return for a TD and the 4th was a special teams TD.  I think we fumbled a snap and they recovered and scored.  I might be wrong on that last TD as I wasn't listening very closely, but I do remember it was on special teams.  According to how the announcers described since I wasn't at the game, sounded like the D showed up decently well, but the O didn't do anything. 

I was at the game.  The entire first half seemed pretty balanced.  Niether team could really throw the ball well, and MSJ's running game showed a little spark but not enough to put a full drive together.  MSJ reciever dropped a would-be 70-yard TD pass on the first play of the game, hit his hands and he was about 4 steps behind the defender.  IWU's defense was big and tough, and MSJ's defense straight dominated (as usual - check previous games).  Your assessment of the first TD before the end of the half is correct - halfback pass to Haggard and he was double covered, three guys jumped for the ball and he came down with it.  Then Lovell rushed in from like 5 yards out.

Second half was a new story.  MSJ's offense was hitting short passes and the running game was going for 5 yards at a time.  Lovell scored again at the end of that drive.  Then MSJ's defense and special teams took over with the interception returned and the blocked punt returned for touchdowns.  The fourth quarter featured IWU trying to put drives together only to be stifled by MSJ's D, and MSJ simply running the ball to get the game over with.

IWU's lone score happened when they handed the ball off to some big runningback, he was almost down after about a 5 yard run when somehow he slipped the linebackers tackle, our safety missed, and he ran for a long TD.  Other than that, IWU's offense really didn't seem to stand much of a chance.

We take a lot of pride in our defense at MSJ, but I will say that IWU's O was big, physical, and had what I thought was a talented QB.

Overall, a good game, and a great win for MSJ.

Rusty Midlam didn't get the vote for the Aztec bowl?  That suprises me.

Anyways, where can I find the list of Aztec Bowl nominees?

In the HCAC, I'd say the toughest place to play would be at Franklin or Anderson, very big intimidating home side and there's always a good loyal turnout, especially at Franklin.

Slowly, MSJ will become the hardest place to play in, but with the new complex only 2 years old, it hasn't matured yet.

oldmantoo, thanks for the comments about those unruly fans behind the MSJ bench, I posted my thoughts on them in the HCAC thread.  Other than them, all the other MUC fans seemed very hospitible (sp?)

And about holding calls, well the holding on MUC's part being called was unexpected as well, being that HCAC refs don't call holding.

No really, they don't call it.

The refs at the game were NCAC refs and they seemed like they had never refereed a game together before, very unorganized, but the game wasn't close enough to make them a factor anyways, so it doesn't matter.