formerd3db,
Come to think of it, yeah I have been pretty low key over the Holidays.But Ihave been watching and listening to everything that's been posted lately. Speaking of Adrians "old" Maple Stadium can you give me a little history about it. Doesn't Adrian High School play there too? Back to the question posted a few weeks ago... I don't know if "K" College will affected by recruitment in that area because of the new tuition policy in that area of the state. You know it's good to see how well the MIAA tradition keeps going year after year. There was a magazine that was given to me during the football season... it was really cool because it had the history of the MIAA and greatest games ever played. I'll have to dig it for you guys and post some of the stories in it. Later. Take care. Thanks for your thoughts. Rookie.
PS Who is DAWG? A coach for Adrian??

To:formerd3db, bulldogalum, wlcalum,
Gentlemen. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! It's been a good learning experience for me the last month. Let's keep this board going.
You guys are first class. Thanks. The Rookie.

bulldogalum,
Good stuff. I saw Adrian play two years ago. Mike looked big, fast, and strong. Congratulations to your alma mater. thanks.

Pat,
Questions for you... Is there an outside chance of any MIAA players making second or third team All-American even if he wasn't recognized on A.) All League or B.) an All Region team? I don't know what the protocal is. Also, do you think a coach could purposely leave out a well deserved All region player just to get him on the All-American team? If it does work out that way, then it's good strategy and "politics" on his part. Thanks.

bulldogalum,
Please help me out here... I was looking at the All-Region team today and saw D. J. Howard on the third team. His stats for a fresman is not very impressive. Granted he had a good year this year as a Sophmore-but All-Region? There are many, many Seniors that had decent careers for four yearsand good accumulative statistics. It appears like the votes are for one year only, and not accumulative. So what happens next year. Could he be picked as a Preseason All-American punt returner? There a lot players that start off on special teams as freshman and sophmores (they end up blocking punts, being leading tacklers, key fumble recoveries, interceptions ect.) Then as Juniors and Seniors move on to be captians of their team and lead them in several team categories. Shouldn't these be the ones that are nominated and selected? I'm just saying that one good year shouldn't make it All-Region. Thanks.

Wlcalum,
I know exactly what your talking about. Sometimes it takes a while to build a successful football program because of the turnover in coaching and small college academic/athletic politics. Coming from a very small Catholic school south of Detroit, we were a powerhouse with only 30 players. I wish you luck with gaining the advantage and recognition in the MIAA. One day those teams with like for example "K" college will turn it around. Like the old saying goes, "you can only put 11 players on the field at a time." I'm for the underdog. Also, I know of a few players that didn't go to the MIAA first place teams basically because they wanted to play more for a college that needs players. Interesting. Thanks.

bulldogalum,
My apologies for the shoutng... thanks for the tip. What position does your brother play for Albion. Can you tell me if Albion has a JV team and how many players they carry? Will he start next year? How does he like coach Rundell? Just curious. He must have gotten his Championship ring too...
I saw the last play of the Akron game.. what a finish!!!

BULLDOGALUM,
HEY, LET'S PUT THIS SUBJECT TO REST FOR ME AND THE REST OF THE "UNSUNG HEROES" ESPECIALLY THOSE FOOTBALL PLAYERS THAT GAVE IT THEIR BEST. WELL SAID, AND PROBABLY WELL THOUGHT OUT BULLDOGALUM. HAVE YOU SEEN A LOT OF ADRIAN GAMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? HOW ABOUT YOU FORMERD3DB? HAVE YOU SEEN HOPE PLAY THIS YEAR? I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED... THERE WAS A RUMOR GOING AROUND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE JUST OK... WITH A LOT OF YOUNG PLAYERS ON THE TEAM. A LOT OF SURPRISES THIS YEAR... I'LL BE WAITING FOR THE ALL-AMERICAN TEAM TO COME OUT SOON. ANY COMMENTS ON ANY NOMINATED PLAYERS? THANKS FOR LISTENING.

FORMERD3DB
I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON WHAT YOU SAID A LIITLE WHILE AGO ON MAKING ALL-CONFERENCE (ALL-MIAA) YES, IT'S TRUE THAT IF A FOOTBALL PLAYER HAS THE STATS AND GETS OVERLOOKED BY OTHER COACHES HE SHOULD KNOW DEEP IN HIS HEART THAT HE IS TRULY DESERVING OF BEING ONE OF THE BEST AT HIS POSITION. FOR EXAMPLE, WHILE FINISHING MY HIGH SCHOOL CAREER I DID NOT HAVE THE STATS AS A BLOCKING  FULLBACK... BUT AS LINEBACKER LED OUR TEAM IN TACKLES (125) THEREFORE, I MISSED OUT ON THE SO CALLED ALL AREA TEAM AND WATCHED DEJECTEDLY AS A SOPHMORE FROM OUR TEAM WALKED AWAY WITH THE HONORS. OUR COACH RESPONDED BY GIVING ME THE MVP HONORS. NO IT'S NOT THE END OF LIFE, BUT IT STICKS WITH YOU FOR A LONG TIME. HOW ABOUT  A NORTH BOWL ALL STAR GAME IN MICHIGAN? I THINK IT'S LONG OVERDUE... AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT WAY OF RECOGNIZING GREAT ATHLETES IN OUR AREA. OH, BY THE WAY... MY COACH OF THE YEAR GOES TO TERRANCE BROOKS UP DOWN AT "K" COLLEGE. WHY? BECAUSE LIKE USUAL THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS AGAIN... AND IT LOOKED LIKE HE GOT THE BEST OUT OF JUST THREE OR FOUR STARTING SENIORS ON THE TEAM. SECOND CHOICE WOULD BE KREPPS FOR ALMOST SURPRISING EVERONE!

WLCALUM,
HEY THANKS. WELL SPOKEN. ACTUALLY I THOUGHT THE SAME THING. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT I THINK THAT MOST OF THE SELECTIONS (FOR THE ALL-MIAA FIRST AND SECOND TEAMS) WERE ALREADY MADE BY SOME COACHES FOR THE FOUR TOP TEAMS BEFORE THE LAST REGULAR SEASON GAME. DO YOU KNOW IF THEY PICKED A "COACH OF THE YEAR "FOR THE MIAA CONFERENCE? IF SO, GENTLEMEN... WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHO IT SHOULD BE? THANKS FOR LISTENING.

FORMER 3DB,
I WAS LOOKING BACK AT THE 2004 ALL-AMERICAN PICKS AND I CAME ACROSS AT LEAST TWO FROM ADRIAN... GRANTED THESE ARE EXTREMELY QUALTIY FOOTBALL PLAYERS BUT WITH ADRIAN COMING IN BEHIND ALBION FOR THE LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP HOW DID THEY GET SO MANY 1ST TEAM ALL MIAA PLAYERS? ALSO, THERE IS GOT BE A THIRD TEAM MIAA BECAUSE THE QB FROM HOPE DID NOT CERTAINLY DESERVE JUST AN HONORABLE MENTION. HE'S A FINE QB. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Gentlemen, I'm the rookie here, and so far I've read some interesting comments, and I highly respect everyones opinions so here goes.... In relation to the last couple of thoughts on the All MIAA sellections I agree that a lot of players that weren't on the first and second teams should have been. And it's to bad that teams like Wisconsin Lutheran and Tri State deserved to get a few more players recognized especially the Seniors that played for four years. Your comments were right on. It boils down to not only Coaching experience but how good the Coach prepares himself and does his homework before the All- Conference selections. Thanks for listening.