Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 26, 2026, 05:45:35 PMI'm assuming CNU was still a junior college when you were on the debate team...

So when are you asking CNU to add the Dance major? Us mouth-breathing, slack jawed rednecks need culture!

Nah ..not that old...so another incorrect assumption. I have had that discussion of adding a major, if it is deemed appropriate. And I have on my desk right now, at work, the paperwork to establish an endowed scholarship in my daughter's name for a dance minor. I just need to review it,  and my wife and I need to sign. We currently have an annual scholarship in her name, but it's time to endow.

Ha...and I always joke that I'm a redneck with a masters degree. So perhaps someday, I'll buy you a beer in a redneck bar. I'd feel right at home.

Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 24, 2026, 10:24:23 AM

Quote from: CNU85 on May 24, 2026, 10:09:07 AM

Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 22, 2026, 11:30:44 AMThanks for the anecdotes.  I'm glad there are performers and I'm glad there are teachers.  We'd be a much better place if more folks did what they loved for a living, but sadly lot of graduates come out of school wide eyed and bushy tailed and find out what they just paid to study is not the ROI they expected.  CNU85, I would have to imagine your daughter having an Econ background to fall back on is better than have a Dance degree to fall back on if circumstances changed. You may feel differently, but as a girl dad myself I would prefer my daughter have your daughter's path.

The "what about the teachers!" line is overplayed. We all know teachers are fundamental to society.  Did I say Teaching Licensure was a scam?  No.  My wife was one of those underpaid teachers and my brother is college professor.  Grade school kids can't do basic math and are accepted into colleges and high school teachers are assaulted in the classroom and most parents couldn't care less. I don't live in a bubble. But, for a board called "Future of Division III" is sure does seem like some of us here do.

Colleges used to teach people how to think.  Now it's what to think, with very rare exceptions.  I can love my alma mater and be thankful for my education yet still be critical.  (Isn't that the "how to think" role of my education?)

You guys can crap on me all you'd like, and if I plucked a nerve I hope your Memorial Day Weekend is not ruined.  The facts are the facts. Only 40% of degrees this year were earned by men and down 3% from last year (before you call me sexist, we men make up half the population and half of possible enrollees).  Keep telling yourselves everything is just fine as we have numerous colleges and universities shutting down over enrollment and finances with many more on accreditation probation due to those poor finances. Larger universities are going to gain more market share.

We live in 2026, not 1996.  "The times, they are a-changin'."  Get busy finding ways to adapt or get left behind.  Simple as that.

Nice pivot. Dance Theory is not a scam. That's what I was addressing. Show me facts that say it is a scam. You can't. Because the data doesn't exist. But a nice try in your pivot.

Pivot? Take your ball and go home. I have obviously hit a nerve and you are taking things too personal. Congrats to having a talented daughter. Maybe she should have gone to Juilliard.

https://www.kiplinger.com/personal-finance/careers/the-highest-paying-college-majors
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/24/best-and-worst-paying-college-majors-5-years-after-graduation.html?msockid=2f515e48a7a865cf190e4a40a6846447

HAHA....Nope, no nerve..you're not that important in my life.... I'm just pointing out that you said "Dance Theory is a scam". Perhaps better wording would have been, "I am intellectually incapable of understanding Dance Theory".

Quote from: y_jack_lok on May 22, 2026, 11:28:53 AM^^^ I wish I could point to that kind of success in my family. I can't just yet. But my son, who has a BA in Political Science, turned to writing about a decade ago and has just completed an MFA program in Creative Writing. Simultaneously he has a novel that was released on May 5th. It's not likely to be a best seller, but it could earn him royalties beyond the advance he was paid by his publisher. This has led to him being about to start a job ghostwriting a book for a computer science professor who spent over four years leading a federal government organization.

There are so many pathways in life.

Sounds like it's already happening! Where can I find his novel? PM if you want.

I'm writing a book....my first. And I'm struggling. I'll figure it out. I hope.

Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 22, 2026, 11:30:44 AMThanks for the anecdotes.  I'm glad there are performers and I'm glad there are teachers.  We'd be a much better place if more folks did what they loved for a living, but sadly lot of graduates come out of school wide eyed and bushy tailed and find out what they just paid to study is not the ROI they expected.  CNU85, I would have to imagine your daughter having an Econ background to fall back on is better than have a Dance degree to fall back on if circumstances changed. You may feel differently, but as a girl dad myself I would prefer my daughter have your daughter's path.

The "what about the teachers!" line is overplayed. We all know teachers are fundamental to society.  Did I say Teaching Licensure was a scam?  No.  My wife was one of those underpaid teachers and my brother is college professor.  Grade school kids can't do basic math and are accepted into colleges and high school teachers are assaulted in the classroom and most parents couldn't care less. I don't live in a bubble. But, for a board called "Future of Division III" is sure does seem like some of us here do.

Colleges used to teach people how to think.  Now it's what to think, with very rare exceptions.  I can love my alma mater and be thankful for my education yet still be critical.  (Isn't that the "how to think" role of my education?)

You guys can crap on me all you'd like, and if I plucked a nerve I hope your Memorial Day Weekend is not ruined.  The facts are the facts. Only 40% of degrees this year were earned by men and down 3% from last year (before you call me sexist, we men make up half the population and half of possible enrollees).  Keep telling yourselves everything is just fine as we have numerous colleges and universities shutting down over enrollment and finances with many more on accreditation probation due to those poor finances. Larger universities are going to gain more market share.

We live in 2026, not 1996.  "The times, they are a-changin'."  Get busy finding ways to adapt or get left behind.  Simple as that.

Nice pivot. Dance Theory is not a scam. That's what I was addressing. Show me facts that say it is a scam. You can't. Because the data doesn't exist. But a nice try in your pivot.

Quote from: y_jack_lok on May 22, 2026, 10:07:06 AM

Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 21, 2026, 09:48:52 PM

Quote from: scottiedoug on May 20, 2026, 04:03:40 PMThe elimination of sociology as a major puts BW right in line with DeSantis' campaign to eliminate fields in Florida where students might learn how social forces work. And who needs to know how capitalism works?  I am glad I am not trying to run a college these days!

I'm glad we agree that Econ is a better subject to study rather than (...get ready to clutch your pearls...) Gender Studies or Dance Theory.  Those majors are major scams that do nothing but degrade the educational standards and puts people in debt while wasting four years.  If I'm running a college these days, I'm adding courses geared toward real life application in fields where people are making money.  Risk Management and Insurance, Project Management, Logistics and Supply Chain, Banking and Private Equity.  All of these can be added to curriculum and not diminish an institution's liberal arts philosophy.  Plus, more parents would be willing to spend the money to send Junior off the college if he's getting a useful education.  And, yes. I am calling out male enrollment.  5% drop (over 1 million) in enrollment since 2011.  There are two issues we can all can clearly see.  Declining birth rate and declining male enrollment.  Good luck.

See bolded sentence above. OMG. If I had a dollar for every time I've heard a statement like that. There are countless ways that people make a living in the world that aren't considered "fields where people are making money". Where would we be without our grossly underpaid public school teachers, to name just one profession?

Exactly . While I'm on a roll, my son-in-law. He is a performer. Played the role of Jerry Lee Lewis on a Eurpoean tour of Million Dollar Quartet. Played the West End of London (think Broadway) Has a finance degree from an AACSB accredited university in Australia. Has created/produced entire shows for Holland America. Does a ton of other things....and along the way he took classes at Berklee related to music production and other scam course offerings.

Quote from: MCScots2013 on May 21, 2026, 09:48:52 PM

Quote from: scottiedoug on May 20, 2026, 04:03:40 PMThe elimination of sociology as a major puts BW right in line with DeSantis' campaign to eliminate fields in Florida where students might learn how social forces work. And who needs to know how capitalism works?  I am glad I am not trying to run a college these days!

I'm glad we agree that Econ is a better subject to study rather than (...get ready to clutch your pearls...) Gender Studies or Dance Theory.  Those majors are major scams that do nothing but degrade the educational standards and puts people in debt while wasting four years.  If I'm running a college these days, I'm adding courses geared toward real life application in fields where people are making money.  Risk Management and Insurance, Project Management, Logistics and Supply Chain, Banking and Private Equity.  All of these can be added to curriculum and not diminish an institution's liberal arts philosophy.  Plus, more parents would be willing to spend the money to send Junior off the college if he's getting a useful education.  And, yes. I am calling out male enrollment.  5% drop (over 1 million) in enrollment since 2011.  There are two issues we can all can clearly see.  Declining birth rate and declining male enrollment.  Good luck.

This is no lie...I'm not making this up at all. My daughter graduated from CNU with an Econ degree, Magna Cum Laude minoring in dance. She danced at Busch Gardens Williamsburg while in college and had lead roles in Christmas ballet shows and others. Just before graduation, she started traveling to auditions. She went to NYC and auditioned for one of two spots at a renowned Jazz company in Chicago. They auditioned hundreds in NYC, Boston Chicago and LA for 2 female spots and I believe one male spot. She was selected, signed a contract and moved to the North Side....Roscoe Village and danced with Giordano Dance Chicago. That lead to a career in dancing literally on every continent except Antarctica. She now has a family but is still teaching competitive dance teams, choreographs competion teams around the country and adjudicates competitions across the nation. She has won numerous regional and national awards for her choreography. So, no, I dont think Dance Theory waters down anything at all. Just because you don't understand something, don't mock it as a scam!

Interesting informtion. I hope BW successfuly comes through this. Also intersting that Economics was eliminated. Hopefully they still offer some courses. I believe it is important for every student to at least be introduced to it. So does ACTA when they evaluate institutions. I know at CNU, every student has to take at least one Econ class, it might be 2.

Quote from: HoopsDad34 on May 12, 2026, 01:30:21 PMWho do you see as #1?

Well if Kahn is hired at CNU, then CNU!!!

          

When good players graduate, that impacts preseason polls. It will be interesting to see what happens to CNU. A lot will depend on who steps in at the helm.

I would think this is a double edged sword for someone.

1.  Here is a team that arguably can be considered a top 2-5 team
2. Don't screw it up.

Quote from: WUPHF on April 29, 2026, 10:51:44 AM

Quote from: CNU85 on April 29, 2026, 10:08:13 AMI found a way to see the rosters. 18 on the mens team and 13 on womens team. That's just not enough to be competitive. Player safety would be my first concern.

I do not know anything about lacrosse, but that makes more sense.

My first reaction was of surprise that a school would cut a program with 18 players.

I am far less surprised by Lakeland cutting tennis with significantly fewer tuition-paying players.

As a comparison, CNU has 60 on the men's roster. The women list 31.

Quote from: MRMIKESMITH on April 28, 2026, 11:22:08 AMSalisbury schedule is finally complete with times and places. Non-Con remains the same, not sure this prepares us for a surging Rowan program that appears to be getting better and better. We finish the season against our new Route 13 Rival in CNU. The time of the CNU game is TBA, could be de facto championship game. This year is somewhat an unknown, but as always Salisbury will compete, but will we have the changing playmakers that allows us to get to the Elite 8, only time will tell. Salisbury typically does better when they are somewhat of a dark horse. As I mentioned, I think CNU and Rowan are my preseason favorites. Although Salisbury may have the better QB returning, I think CNU and Salisbury may have to replace some key positions due to graduation and transfer portal.

That's probably a good preseason summary. Even with recruiting and players tranfering in, how do we really know how they fit in and add value? Freshmen may take years. For me, CNU has some key questions to answer. Losing an All-american QB to Penn State was absolutely unexpected. So, we need an answer at that position. Losing a WR like Hart also raises the question of who will step up. It's kinda fun to watch and see what the coaches do and to watch other players step up. It's only April and I'm ready for the season to start!

Quote from: WUPHF on April 28, 2026, 06:42:45 PMMarian (WI) is cutting lacrosse. Interesting...

https://sabreathletics.com/news/2026/4/28/general-marian-university-announces-strategic-realignment-of-athletic-programs-to-strengthen-student-athlete-success.aspx

Wow...I went to their athletic website to see the rosters to determine how many players this impacted and they no longer have the links listed under "Sports". They've already removed the pages. That seems a bit harsh. Just my opinion.

I found a way to see the rosters. 18 on the mens team and 13 on womens team. That's just not enough to be competitive. Player safety would be my first concern.

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on April 25, 2026, 10:41:01 AM

Quote from: CNU85 on April 24, 2026, 03:55:20 PMThis is what is currently happening at Regent. Under construction.

Tonight, they are having a huge fundraiser featuring former MLB player and 4x World Series Champion, Darryl Strawberry. $125/plate

Regent Facilities

I just learned that Regent doesn't do meal plans.  There's a restaurant style place you can buy meals ala carte, but all the dorms have full kitchens and most students cook for themselves.  That's pretty interesting.

That is interesting. Especially for underclassmen. And no meal plans at all.  I believe all CNU upperclassmen dorms have full kitchens. I know my daughter lived on campus until her senior year. She had a full kitchen as a sophomore and junior. She still had a meal plan.

This is what is currently happening at Regent. Under construction.

Tonight, they are having a huge fundraiser featuring former MLB player and 4x World Series Champion, Darryl Strawberry. $125/plate

Regent Facilities

oh well. Rules is da rules. it'll be ok.