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#1
wow congrats to Coach Conway and his son TD.  1st NPU QB to be named ALL CCIW since Shelby Wood in 2008.

When was the last time no Wheaton skill players made 1st or 2nd team All CCIW.  Maybe 12-15 years!
#2
Quote from: newcardfan on December 18, 2012, 09:43:47 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 18, 2012, 09:27:40 PM
Leave it be, Ghost. She deleted the post, as is her right.

I think it's a wise policy to treat a post that's deleted within a few hours of being posted as though it was never sent. Almost everybody who has spent a lot of time on the boards has had occasions in which they've had second thoughts about what they've posted, especially if it was a controversial post or had a harsh tone. We should extend each other the grace to let such a post go if it's retracted, since we may be in that person's shoes somewhere down the road.
Thanks, I just came on here to say the same thing, however you said it much better than I ever could. My apologies to all.

Meador Opoy in'11 and dod not recieve AA
#3
Interested to hear NCC posters thoughts on the comparisons between Linfield's Mickey Inns and Wheaton's Jordan Roberts. Roberts clearly had AA numbers in '12....
#4
General football / Re: Pool C -- 2012
November 19, 2012, 08:28:03 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on November 14, 2012, 08:39:18 PM
Quote from: hazzben on November 14, 2012, 11:17:39 AM
Quote from: K-Mack on November 13, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
That said, I'd be all for adding D3football.com TO THE COMMITTEE. :D

Why not?

For me, the wisdom of having Pat & Keith involved is that you would have an exceptional balance of the forest and the trees. No one knows the entire D3 map as well as them. I respect the difficult job the guys on the national committee have, and they are on that committee because they are good at what they do. But I don't know that any of them see the big picture clearly. This is where having d3football involved would make sense. Even if it was just in an advisory roll. A couple of expert, unbiased voices in the room who can answer questions and fill in gaps in the criteria. Even giving the committee members a sense of how things have gone well and poorly in the selections historically, since this committee isn't self-perpetuating. Maybe they don't have a vote, but they are their as a resource.

And you've still got regional rankings and committee members who have a strong sense of how things stack up within their own regions and conferences. As well as the criteria itself.

Seems like a nice balance. I don't know how serious you were Keith, but I wouldn't see a problem with it. Neither of you have ever struck me as the Kirk Herbstreit type, where you'd stump for the good 'ol boys.

I'd be flattered.
I'd do it.
I've never been invited, of course.
And I probably would have lobbied hard for Concordia-Moorhead. Would have liked to see UW-P too but not sure how they could have been wedged in.

Or arguably the best team in the CCIW and one of the hottest teams in the nation over the last month of the regular season in Wheaton.  I know KM chose them in his first pool C mock.  Would have been fun to watch them make a run.
#6
General football / Re: Pool C -- 2012
November 10, 2012, 11:54:11 PM
Wheaton has never lost a first round playoff game in 8 appearances... that will come into play
#7
General football / Re: Pool C -- 2012
November 07, 2012, 04:14:15 PM
wow Wheaton really got nailed in the regional rankings...what gives?  I sense the committee is not done with these yet and once Wheaton's resume is compared with that of OWU and Witt more thoroughly we could very well see the jump Usee is talking about. 
#8
Quote from: Mugsy on November 03, 2012, 10:12:15 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 03, 2012, 09:52:22 PM
Guys, some assistance requested.

I vote in the North Region Fan Poll.  How the he!! am I gonna sort out the NCC/Wheaton/Elmhurst triangle?  NCC was dominating everyone after their opening loss, demolished Elmhurst, but was dominated by Wheaton.  Wheaton barely lost to Elmhurst, barely beat IWU (back when they were good ;)), lost to Albion (barely), but dominated NCC (which no conference team had done in years).  Elmhurst has probably been the least impressive, but is the only one with one loss.

I have no clue in what order to place them. :-\  (With Wabash losing at home to Oberlin (Oberlin! :o), the trio will probably be 3, 4, and 5; I'd vote them all #4, but not sure my ballot would be accepted!)

I'm sure this will be a topic of considerable conversation for the next 10-14 days.  I have my thoughts based on "if they played 10 times, who would win the most...", but that is somewhat irrelevant.

I think we need to look at the NCAA regional rankings.  It is highly unlikely that Wheaton would go from not even in the ranking to ranked higher than Elmhurst.  NCC will likely drop below Elmhurst.

Personally I believe Wheaton is a better team than Elmhurst, but Elmhurst won the game this year and that is what counts at this point.

If I were to guess, the NCAA regional rankings will have these three as Elmhurst, NCC and then Wheaton.

No question Wheaton and NCC are the two best teams in the CCIW with EC a distant 3rd.  Wheaton did yesterday what no team in the last 5-6 years has done to the NCC defense.  If EC beats IWU they will block Wheaton from getting to the pool C table.  Happened last year to WC as they were clearly a better team than IWU at the end of the season but IWU kept winning ugly and got the pool C.

What is interesting is that Wheaton has the much higher SOS of the 3 right now...
#9
Quote from: thunder38 on October 21, 2012, 09:00:46 PM


Quick question for the Thunder fans or anybody else who wants to chime in....during the broadcast the commentary in a couple of places mentioned the offense being out of sync (there was one instance of a weird looking attempt at a screen play) and that it has been that way most of the season.  How much of that do you think is because Wheaton is playing two quarterbacks?  I know both players are very good...basically equally good.  Do you think it hinders the offense to be switching back and forth constantly?


Wheaton is #1 in the CCIW in total offense, scoring offense, passing offense, pass efficiency, first downs, 3rd down conversions and for the 2nd year in a row will probably produce the conference's top QB.  In addition, the Wheaties just torched what was the nation's #10 defense for almost 500 yards and 38 points.  Most teams (including mine) would kill to be able to find things to complain about with those numbers.
#10
In last weekend's biggest upset, it seems as if Albion took advantage of a unique injury situation to Wheaton.  Per the Thunder roster and game stats...they were missing 4 All CCIW offensive players for that game, 3 of which were 1st team honorees.  That is a pretty big gap to fill for any team on any level.

QB Meador - 2011 1st Team
WR Hiben - 2011 1st Team
OL Randall - 2011 2nd Team
RB Velling - 2009 1st Team
#13
as usual some coaching shake up at NP as OC Winter leaves for HS job in GA.

Just found out from our friends at church that 2009 1st team All CCIW RB Charlie Velling is back in the Wheaton football program.  If you include both returning QB's and Velling that means Wheaton potentially has 10 starters back on offense including three 1st team all league players and all 5 starting OL from an 8-2 squad in '11.  Wow it could be a special year for the Thunder if they can can replace some guys on D and kicker.
#14
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 18, 2011, 05:15:41 PM
Quote from: lakeshore on December 17, 2011, 05:00:46 PM
every time I think d3.com gets it right they make questionable moves with All America picks...
The Cortland QB as an HM All America over Meador?  He wasn't even the POY in region (McSweeney) and didn't have the numbers Meador had...especially against the CCIW...they missed that one bad. 

Then they pick a Benedictine DL over Jenkins, Garza, Hates, East or Ramsay?  uninformed

McSweeny wasn't in the same region as Cortland.

The Benedictine DL has CCIW roots. He's capable against high-caliber competition.

It was a really tight call on that last QB spot. Pitcher was sacked least often and threw the fewest interceptions (one per 71 attempts as opposed to one in 50) and had similar yards per attempt. The NJAC is a quality defensive conference, so those are legitimate numbers.

Yeah Meador threw for more yards and had a higher completion percentage plus more "big" games.  Plus the ultimate honor for an All America resume in that he was player of the year in a region where many of the previous players of year were NFL hopefuls.....I'm not sure any of the CCIW Dlineman would have gotten chewed up against NPU, Kzoo and Wisc. Lutheran.  Pat doesn't like to admit when he's wrong.
#15
every time I think d3.com gets it right they make questionable moves with All America picks...
The Cortland QB as an HM All America over Meador?  He wasn't even the POY in region (McSweeney) and didn't have the numbers Meador had...especially against the CCIW...they missed that one bad. 

Then they pick a Benedictine DL over Jenkins, Garza, Hates, East or Ramsay?  uninformed