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#1
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on Yesterday at 02:02:53 PMPoint v UMHB
Bethany Lutheran at Gustavus Adolphus

At the site of one of the greatest games of all time in Stevens Point Basketball History!

https://athletics.uwsp.edu/sports/mens-basketball/stats/2003-04/gustavus-adolphus-college/boxscore/7203
#2
Tournament Schedule
Tuesday, February 24
First Round
UW-Whitewater (#1) - Bye
UW-Stevens Point (#2) - Bye
UW-Stout (#6) at UW-La Crosse (#3) - 7:00 PM
UW-Oshkosh (#5) at UW-Platteville (#4) - 7:00 PM

Thursday, February 26
Semifinals
Lowest Remaining Seed at UW-Whitewater - 7:00 PM
Highest Remaining Seed at UW-Stevens Point - 7:00 PM

Saturday, February 28
Championship (winner receives automatic NCAA bid)
Semifinal Winners, TBA
#3
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 19, 2026, 04:59:10 AM
Quote from: John Gleich on February 18, 2026, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 18, 2026, 09:52:24 PMPoint forgets there's 2 halves in a game and forgets to show up the last 15 minutes of the game. Another egg laid. No conference championship for the Pointers again. Tough finish at Oshkosh this weekend. I wonder what Point team will show up this weekend.

Whitewater won the game, far more than Point losing it.

Whitewater totally outplayed Point in the 2nd half, but there were so many lazy turnovers that were completely unnecessary by Point.

Whitewater made 7/11 3's in the second half, and they weren't wide open (not by a long shot). Speaking of long shots... several of those were DEEP 3's.

Look, I wanted Point to hoist a banner after this season as much as anybody. Getting conference title #30 matters, especially because it's been more than 10 seasons since we've had one to hang on the wall.

But it matters, too, because of what it means about where the program has gotten to again. The Radio guys mentioned it last night again (and they've talked about it plenty this season) - losing Cal Krohn is a difficult mid-season loss. Perhaps the toughest player loss they could have had, maybe with the exception of Josiah Butler.

Other teams have overcome adversity as well. But I think Whitewater played exceptionally last night, especially in the second half.

If they play like that, they're going to be a tough out in the NCAA tournament.

I think I wrote Whitewater off because of the start of the WIAC season. They started 0-2. But they've gone 9-2 since - the best in any 11-game stretch by anyone in the WIAC, and that's why they're sitting in the #1 spot with 1 game to play.
#4
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 18, 2026, 09:52:24 PMPoint forgets there's 2 halves in a game and forgets to show up the last 15 minutes of the game. Another egg laid. No conference championship for the Pointers again. Tough finish at Oshkosh this weekend. I wonder what Point team will show up this weekend.

Whitewater won the game, far more than Point losing it.
#5
Quote from: ChickenHoops on February 14, 2026, 04:44:22 PMDespite all your ire, I will continue to ask why Uttech is not still at Point.  He is almost singlehandedly carrying the Blue Devils in the early game vs. Oshkosh. I continue to see him as someone who could have been a real help for the Pointers. 

Thought maybe one of you insiders would know how Point let him get away.

Although Uttech did miss a dunk late in the first half along with his 15 points.

He isn't at Point because he elected to transfer. Let it go.

He's gotten more PT at Stout than he would have at Stevens Point. Point has had a core group of players that are now Juniors... and he was behind that core group on the depth chart. That could well be a reason why.

But he's a college kid. His decisions are his own. Let's let him live with those decisions and move forward with the guys putting in the work for Coach Dernbach.

By the way, Point beat La Crosse 97-75. LaX fought hard, but pretty dominant for much of the night by Point.
#6
I wonder if/when we'll see some separation...

QuoteWednesday games
SP 7-3 at RF 2-8
ST 4-6 at LX 6-4
EC 3-7 at Osh 6-4
PL 6-4 at WW 6+4

Loser of PL/WW will drop back

Standings right now:
1. SP 7-3
2T. LaX 6-4
2T. Osh 6-4
2T. PL 6-4
2T. WW 6-4
6. ST 4-6
7. EC 3-7
8. RF 2-8

Last time these teams played:
SP 86 - RF 68
LaX 72 - ST 50
OSH 79 - EC 73
PL 70 - WW 60
#7
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on February 04, 2026, 10:26:43 PMMadness in Platteville. PL up 76-75. Metcalf-Grassman turns it over with 25 seconds left. Then Bristol Lewis turns it over with 18 seconds left. LaChapell misses a 3, gets his own rebound and misses a bunny for the lead. Fuhremann is fouled but misses the FT. Metcalf-Grassman gets the rebound, misses the contested layup with 4 seconds left, but in the scrum for the rebound, Jonah Rindleisch gets fouled with less than a second left. All of this and still down 76-75, Oshkosh a chance to tie or win it at the line but Rindfleisch misses both FTs and Platteville escapes.

That was the longest last minute!
#8
Quote from: PauldingLightUP on January 24, 2026, 09:58:55 PMWIAC eating itself alive today this year. Not good.

Fixed it for you
#9
Point 3-1
Osh 3-1
Platte 3-1
UWW 2-2
UWS 2-2
LaX 1-3
EC 1-3
RF 1-3
#10
All of the underdogs won tonight.

Stout 83 Point 67
RF 69 EC 47
Osh 86 Platte 76
UWW 63 LaX 60
#11
It was really a game of two contrasting halves. Half 1 was Oshkosh's style/page, Half 2 was Point's.

SP tried to run with Oshkosh in the first, and found themselves down 24-12. They managed to outscored the Titans 28-20 the rest of the half, but couldn't seem to stop Oshkosh, who were shooting blistering percentages from the field.

Good players will make shots.... but you defend to disrupt their rhythm, focus, and form. Point did a pretty poor job handling ball screens by the Titans, they weren't keeping drivers in front, and their help was late, which allowed the three-point shooters to hit in rhythm on the draw and kick.

The second half was a different story. It was played at Point's pace and this started with the Pointer defense. They did a MUCH better job keeping drivers in front, which led to less help required and allowed the off-ball defenders to disrupt... and Oshkosh hit only 1 three, compared to 7 in the first half.

Point also handled the press better in the second half. It wasn't perfect... but when they did beat it, the Pointers got layups (or dunks, like Isaiah Moore's).

This team seems different. They seems special. I'm not sure their ceiling, because of their struggles shooting from 3... but they have yet to play their best to this point, and if they get hot... Watch out!
#12
Quote from: WIACer on January 04, 2026, 02:11:44 PM
Quote from: John Gleich on January 04, 2026, 12:59:03 AMThe end of the EC/SP game was mishandled by the officials.

If you watch the video, the play with Bulter happens at 1:41 left in the game.

As they had all game, they "let them play" on Point's offensive end. Butler scored and EC came down and ran offense... and ultimately took a 3, which missed.

Once Point got the rebound (1:21), they went back and looked at the video and determined that there was an offensive foul on Butler in the previous possession. But... the basket stuck.

EC got two FTs (made 1/2)... and then got the ball back again, and hit a 3.

Because EC was granted 2 FTs, I have to believe that they determined the offensive foul to.be a flagrant (the Box Score doesn't say, and the SP radio guys weren't told).

Where I think this was mishandled - the referees STOPPED THE GAME after the EC possession. If anything, they should have waited until the next stoppage of play. That then took an offensive possession away from SP after getting a stop.

And for everyone saying SP.almost choked.... a reminder, Eau Claire hadn't lost a game since Feb 26th of last year. That SP was able to grow an 11 point lead with 2:20 to go was great, and you'd love to see them close games out better, for sure. But Eau Claire was going to fight, and fight they did.

And at the end, SP did enough to seal their 11th victory.
Very good description. The flagrant foul was consistent with what they allowed. And for point it was advantageous for the game. Don't really care who win but thought this could be the game of the week. Since Osh/ww went down. I was always in belief that a o player need to make a move around and player. They both have right to their location. When you go through a player no move is made. You have a couple options. Hold your ground or give ground. Giving ground ends in easy shots. Which is what happened to EV. But difficult if def believe they are hand tied by a foul. Ec lost because of ft.s and point in paint. uWSP won because they were better. Pretty simple. Playoff type atmosphere: I learned both teams are solid.

Agreed - EC showed how dangerous they can be, especially from deep, and Point showed how unstoppable they can be inside.

Truth be told, as much as I didn't like EC getting another possession after missing their shot before the stoppage and flagrant call....  EC lost 20 seconds off the clock from that possession, because they missed.

With that additional time, it might have made a difference in the final outcome.
#13
The end of the EC/SP game was mishandled by the officials.

If you watch the video, the play with Bulter happens at 1:41 left in the game.

As they had all game, they "let them play" on Point's offensive end. Butler scored and EC came down and ran offense... and ultimately took a 3, which missed.

Once Point got the rebound (1:21), they went back and looked at the video and determined that there was an offensive foul on Butler in the previous possession. But... the basket stuck.

EC got two FTs (made 1/2)... and then got the ball back again, and hit a 3.

Because EC was granted 2 FTs, I have to believe that they determined the offensive foul to.be a flagrant (the Box Score doesn't say, and the SP radio guys weren't told).

Where I think this was mishandled - the referees STOPPED THE GAME after the EC possession. If anything, they should have waited until the next stoppage of play. That then took an offensive possession away from SP after getting a stop.

And for everyone saying SP.almost choked.... a reminder, Eau Claire hadn't lost a game since Feb 26th of last year. That SP was able to grow an 11 point lead with 2:20 to go was great, and you'd love to see them close games out better, for sure. But Eau Claire was going to fight, and fight they did.

And at the end, SP did enough to seal their 11th victory.
#14
Quote from: Greek Tragedy on December 29, 2025, 04:27:13 PMPoint started out hot, 22-5. Now it's 30-29. Yikes.

45-39 at the half.

SP won pretty confortably 87-70.
#15
Quote from: Gregory Sager on December 21, 2025, 09:56:04 AMYou're mischaracterizing the UWSP @ NPU game. The Pointers did not have four opportunities to ice the game against North Park, at least not four realistic ones. Meanwhile, North Park could've won the game in regulation. Kolden Vanlandingham was at the line in the double bonus with eight seconds left in regulation and the Vikings down by one, and he missed the first free throw. Yes, UWSP still had the last shot, which Josiah Butler missed, but the Vikings also ganked the opportunity to win it in regulation, settling for the tie because KV missed one of his two free throws.

At the end of the first overtime the game was tied at 91-91 after Butler had tied it up for UWSP with 28.2 seconds to go. The Vikings thus had the ball with the shot clock turned off -- and with it the opportunity to not only win the game but to do so after having run down the game clock. Jalen Houston attempted a wide-open trey from the left corner, but missed it with six seconds left. After a rebound scramble, Logan Baumgartner of UWSP got the ball while facing the west basket with a second left, spun around, and attempted a 65-foot off-balance two-handed heave with 0.2 seconds left that nicked the top of the shot clock above the east basket (i.e., five feet too high and off to the left of his target) and fell to the floor. Baumgartner could spend an entire day trying to make a 180-degree-turnaround two-handed heave from 65 feet away over and over without ever making it once. Houston? He's a 35% shooter from three-point range, and a lot of his attempts have come from the corner. In other words, he's a good bet for NPU to win the game with that shot at 00:06 of the first overtime.

In other words, North Park was just as capable of winning that game before the end of the third overtime as UWSP was, if not more.

Greg, what are free throws if not an opportunity to ice the game?

UWSP was up 7 with 3:12 to go in regulation.
Up 6 with 2:09, up 4 with 1:59, up 6 with 1:11
After letting up a 3 and turning it over, still up 1 with 0:54 left. down to :31.7, UWSP was on the line with two free throws. And Miron missed BOTH (from the description... the vid was showing the wrong side of the court). And with it tied with 11 seconds left, SP STILL had an opportunity to score to win. Again, the video wasn't showing the UWSP end of the court, so I don't know what happened down on that end. So, that's at least two opportunities by UWSP at the end of regulation (FT's, to go up 3, and the ball with the score tied).

First OT
UWSP missed 5/6 FTs in the first OT. Point rebounded the second miss and still scored, but getting FT's is one way to ice the game.  Plus a half-court heave. Realistic or not, it was a chance.

Second OT
1/2 FT's for the 2nd OT. up 1 with :28 left in the 2nd OT.

Third OT
2/4 FT's in the final :18 of 3rd OT.

So let's count JUST the missed FT's.
2 in Regulation (0/2)
5 in OT #1 (3/8)
1 in OT #2 (1/2)
2 in OT #3 (8/10)

12/22 from the line. 10 missed FT's in the final two minutes of regulation and three 5-minute OT periods. I'd say those were opportunities to ice the game that were missed.


I don't want to take anything away from North Park in that game. They made the plays to win. But, they were given opportunity after opportunity by things within UWSP's control, on TOP of having some chances while the clock was running.