Quote from: ncc_cardinal_fan on November 14, 2006, 02:31:11 AM

Quote from: FishHack76 on November 14, 2006, 02:03:01 AM
How hard is it to start up a rival website, especially if there is a dissatisfied contigent of people?
Yes, this is a great resource, but all I'm saying is don't abuse your base of readers and don't take them for granted. Nothing is ever permanent. Just because this is the No. 1 website right now doesn't mean it'll stay that way forever.

Hey FishHack once you get a site that you run, then you can talk some smack, until then you need to just take a chill pill. I didnt see you on ESPN the other day, but Pat was.

I along with all the other posters probably agree that Pat is fair and honest 100% of the time. Can that be the next poll question???

Man my Karma is getting up there!!!!

Quote from: FishHack76 on November 14, 2006, 02:03:01 AM
How hard is it to start up a rival website, especially if there is a dissatisfied contigent of people?
Yes, this is a great resource, but all I'm saying is don't abuse your base of readers and don't take them for granted. Nothing is ever permanent. Just because this is the No. 1 website right now doesn't mean it'll stay that way forever.

Hey FishHack once you get a site that you run, then you can talk some smack, until then you need to just take a chill pill. I didnt see you on ESPN the other day, but Pat was.

I along with all the other posters probably agree that Pat is fair and honest 100% of the time. Can that be the next poll question???

Quote from: Tailgater on November 11, 2006, 11:54:35 PM
I've read a lot of references to questionable calls by the officiating crew. This is a polite way for one to agree the officiating was bad particularly if you are an NCC backer. This crew was outright aweful! Forget about flagging Carthage for delay of game with 7 seconds on the play clock or marching off 10 yards on a defensive holding call (did the 5 yard  and automatic first down rule change?). Virtually every scoring drive NCC had was aided and/or prolonged in some way by a no call for blatant holding by a lineman tackling a defender right in front of the Referee (on multiple occasions) or interference calls which as earlier discribed were questionable. The late hit call late in the 4th quarter put on Kniss on the NCC sideline was a mystery from our side of the field. I'll get a better idea of legitamacy when I see some video from that field side angle. The penalty yardage resulted in a first down instead of a punt. Carthage trailed by only 3 at the time. The final scoring pass for NCC was an outstanding one hand catch by the NCC reciever (Studamen).... the other hand was still recoiling after pushing off the defender so it wasn't available to help secure the ball. I will stop here as it is aggravating to recall the numerous calls which didn't go my team's way. Bottom line... officiating good or bad is part of the game. You need to suck it up and deal with it. Carthage did all they could to overcome the officiating mistakes, but NCC outlasted them and thus was the victor.

wow, someone is mad about their team getting beat. Take a look at the total yards, buddy 374 NCC - Carthage 167. So, the refs gave the game away huh. Was it your mom that ran on the field after the game screaming about the refs? probably! Just another classless act by that lady from Carthage. And you thought that whole deal was bad by wheaton up at carthage. Geez!

Bottom Line...... NCC had terrible field position all first half. They were lucky to only be down 17-14 at half. Truthfully one tipped pass as an interception for a touchdown and a really bad try at a fake punt by the Cards which gave up the ball at the 15 were the blemishes that gave Carthage a good chance.

That being said, carthage did seem like they moved the ball but I guess it was because of the good field position. They only had 67 yards passing and 100 rushing. Great job by the defense even though the scoreboard didnt show that...

Lastly,  Congrats to Coach Thorne and the cardinal football team. Each player deserves credit for winning a share of the conference championship. It's been a long time but I believe the effort this team brings to the field is deserving of the conference trophy.

Congrats again NCC!!!!

Quote from: usee on October 28, 2006, 05:55:44 PM

Quote from: usee on October 28, 2006, 05:42:25 PM
ncc with 477 yds offense

augie w 122 all rushing ( w 2 ints)

ncc had possession for 36 min to 24 for augie

I would rather play augie 10x than have to face ncc again.

great job to the two voters who picked ncc by 21+!!

NCC showed today (to me) that they have really stepped up their program and are with the big dogs.

The only question left in my mind for their program is "can they win a big one on the road". they will have a chance in 2 weeks up in Kenosha as the AQ is likely on the line.

Wheaton is playing for a Pool C right now. They also have a huge game in kenosha to keep their chances alive before finishing with a home game against IWU.

If NCC and Wheaton win out I think we will have two very good representatives in the playoffs.

Yeah its funny now that the game is over there were 3 more people that picked NCC by 21+ to make the total five. I had no doubts and had to go with NCC by 21+ who came up big. Great game by NCC today on all cylinders. They played a great football game on both sides of the ball. Kniss- outstanding, Sulo- great and a big hats off to Weinke who had the defense geared up for Augie. Also, Wes Kostellic, linebacker, 1 rushing touchdown, 1 catch for 53 yards and 6 tackles with a pass deflection. Pretty good game for a linebacker, possibly POW on defense

Quote from: vikes35 on October 28, 2006, 06:24:14 PM
I agree that the passing was pathetic in that game, but the plays calls also had no creativity in the run game as well. They for some reason seem to run less counters and less outside runs this year than I have seen in the time I have followed the team. If Augie has to pass to win games they are in trouble, but the fact that they have done less and less to try to deceive the defense this year is even more distrubing.  I guess from the fan standpoint the last few seasons I had a very hard time following the ball (Roe and others had tremendous fakes), whereas this year even in the stands I have a better idea of where the ball is actually at. I agree with Augie6 about the Augie on the helmet, this game showed that the Vikings need to once again earn that right.

The play calls are also tough when you only have 10 plays to run in the first half. One of the best defensive performances I have seen in a long time by NCC.

Quote from: robertgoulet on October 17, 2006, 12:14:36 AM
making my return to the board............



Chicago frickin Bears. Un. Be. Lievable.

6 turnovers
down 20 in the 2nd half
3 total pts from the offense


Still get the W. I am......wow.

Side Note:

Probably the most unbelievable NFL game I have ever seen especially on monday night. To come back from 20-0 and not have your offense score a point is just ridiculous. Thanks God we pulled that one off.

Superbowl BABY!!!
Go Bears

Quote from: Red on October 15, 2006, 11:43:22 PM
trueaugiealum-
Who do you think should start at left tackle instead of the freshman?

probably himself!!!!

Quote from: TrueAugieAlum on October 15, 2006, 08:52:05 AM

QuoteI thought Augie's defense played very well and the offense wasn't spectacular but did everything they needed to

Not sure you saw the same game as me!  My take on the game is that Wheaton would have handily won if they had any recievers out on the field.  The touchdowns by Augie weren't of their making, but a breakdown on Wheaton defense.

Oh, looks like at least one of the coachs follows my postings!  Did you see that they substituted the OL for an ENTIRE series - and almost SCORED!

I will repeat my mantra:
If the offensive coaches could recognize talent on the team Augustana would be 6-0 today!!
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHY THE COACHES THINK THE FRESHMAN 79 DESERVES TO EVEN BE ON THE FIELD?!?!  It cannot be because the field needed fertilizer - it is artifical turf!!
Did his family give money to the school or are his parents old alum?  That is the only reason I see he would be starting!! 

I happen to follow Augies JV games, and I want to strangle JohnsEn and Brewer.  There are some BIG, and I mean BIG OL players who are as good or BETTER and should be starting on Sat, rather than what these two morons are using as their STARTERS.  If these BIG guys were on the field every Sat for Augie the team would be invinsible.  Instead, we get treated each Sat with wins that rely on either the defense or lack of disipline by the opposition.

Somebody's kid is not playing.... OUCH!!!!

First of all,

Congrats to the Cardinals puuling out a big win and also to Augustana upsetting #10 ranked Wheaton, not anymore. Big day for the cards!!!!

To Mugsy and all other Studebaker lovers:

You were saying this guy was supposed to be the DPOY for the conference and goes against Augie and has one measly tackle. Just like I said at the beginning of the week. Studebaker cannot play against running teams which was entirely proven by the statistics.

So, once again, congrats to Augie for knocking out the Thunder and to NC on a good win against the bluejays.

Looks like it will be an interesting matchup Augie  vs. NCC after they have to face millikin in decatur.

Quote from: Mugsy on October 13, 2006, 09:53:50 AM

Quote from: ncc_cardinal_fan on October 13, 2006, 02:26:25 AM
I could understand not having high tackle counts but only have 4.5 total tackles including 2 assists in that 4.5 total tackles is not very impressive against the run. So, in 5 games that he has played he has a WHOPPING 2.5 total solo tackles. Not very impressive to me mugsy. If my math is right that is .5 tackles per game excluding the 11.5 sacks, which is impressive against passing teams.

And yes, You were the only one talking him up until everyone joined the bandwagon because of his sacks. Bottom line .5 tackles a game or 16 tackles total in 5 games, not that impressive against the run.

ncc_cardinal_fan,

I believe you have made a mistake and confused Dan Studebaker's stats with Andy Studebaker's.

Dan Studebaker:  2 solo tackles, 3 assists, 0 sacks
Andy Studebaker: 14 solo tackles, 2 assists, 11.5 sacks

Almost everyone is aware that Andy Studebaker is #2 in the nation in Sacks with 11.5 for -99 yards.  Many do not realize he is #6 in the nation in "Tackles For Loss" with 12.5 for -103 yards. 

um, no mugsy if you will learn how to read, beacuse I know that can be hard sometimes for you. i said that he has 11.5 sacks with only 16 total tackles, leaving him with a whopping 4.5 tackles total in 5 games, not very impressive. I did not confuse the two studemugsy brothers, sorry!!!

A sack counts as a tackle if you were unaware of that!!!

Quote from: Mugsy on October 13, 2006, 12:01:26 AM

Quote from: ncc_cardinal_fan on October 12, 2006, 10:35:01 PM
I can almost guarantee that "studemugsy" aka studebaker, because mugsy and studebaker are now a duo will have no affect if augie runs the ball, which they always do. I don't believe that "Studemugsy" will have any affect unless Augie decides to pass the ball then he might pick up a sack possibly. Thats only if his "boy toy" mugsy is at the game to give him a hug after he gets that sack on the sidelines.

Don't underestimate Andy Studebaker's ability to stop the run.  He has shown himself to be very disciplined at doing his job.  He isn't just a pass rushing freak who neglects run responsibilities.  Coach Peltz, Coach Sandberg and Coach Swider wouldn't put up with that and yes... you'd only see him in on "passing downs" if that were the case.

I wouldn't expect to see high tackle counts for defensive linemen, particularly defensive ends.  You should see high sacks and more importantly high tackles for loss (which Studebacker has).

"studemugsy"?  I'm not the only one talking him up and I no longer need too.  I could list off at least 10 people who have  posted how impressed they were with his ability.  His performance speaks for itself.  After 5 weeks, I no longer need to tell everyone about his ability.  There are 5 teams that know all about it.

I could understand not having high tackle counts but only have 4.5 total tackles including 2 assists in that 4.5 total tackles is not very impressive against the run. So, in 5 games that he has played he has a WHOPPING 2.5 total solo tackles. Not very impressive to me mugsy. If my math is right that is .5 tackles per game excluding the 11.5 sacks, which is impressive against passing teams.

And yes, You were the only one talking him up until everyone joined the bandwagon because of his sacks. Bottom line .5 tackles a game or 16 tackles total in 5 games, not that impressive against the run.

Proof is in the Pudding:

                                      GP   solo   ass.   tot    sacks
*90 Studebaker, An.        5     14      2       16  11.5-99

16 total tackles 11.5 sacks, what the heck? Do they take him out on running plays


*from wheatons web-site

Good luck against a running team "Studemugsy"

I can almost guarantee that "studemugsy" aka studebaker, because mugsy and studebaker are now a duo will have no affect if augie runs the ball, which they always do. I don't believe that "Studemugsy" will have any affect unless Augie decides to pass the ball then he might pick up a sack possibly. Thats only if his "boy toy" mugsy is at the game to give him a hug after he gets that sack on the sidelines.

Quote from: Mugsy on October 10, 2006, 06:42:26 PM

Quote from: Mugsy on October 02, 2006, 12:34:07 PM
To this point Wheaton has been very successful at stuffing the run.  If Wheaton is able to continue this trend and reduce NCC's offense to one dimension (ie. the pass), then Wheaton can unleash their very strong, quick defensive line to pressure Kniss.  If Studebaker & Co. are in Kniss' face all day, the bell returns to Wheaton.

If Wheaton is able to rush for 130-150+ yards against NCC, they will continue their balanced offensive attack.

It was mentioned earlier, but in my book the key match up is NCC O-Line vs. Wheaton D-Line. 

Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 02, 2006, 09:54:50 AM
I really feel that the game is going to come down to the NCC O-Line being able to handle what seems to be a very dominant Wheaton D-Line.

jaybird,
These are a few of the quotes from last week regarding the keys to the NCC game -  very similar to yours.  Turns out the NCC o-line did very well, with exception to Studebaker whom no one has stopped yet this year.

Mugsy, once again all over his best friend studebaker!!!

Quote from: Comet 14 on October 06, 2006, 02:25:07 PM
I think that if Elmhurst wins Sat. ( and I think they will ) they will recieve some top 25 votes. Anyone else feel the same?

No, they will not recieve any votes. They are not good enough

Big Congrats goes out to Dan Taylor (washdupcard) on passing his BAR EXAM. Also, looking forward heading over to wheaton to quiet down the thunder this saturday and keeping the bell where its supposed to be at. Naperville, BABY!!!!!

The cards also need to come out more focused than they have all year. Every game so far they have came out flat and if they do it against wheaton we might be in for some fireworks flying high in wheaton.