im an LL guy, so im not that familiar with the sunyac, but how do they only get one bid? did brockport struggle in non-conference play?

can someone please explain to me how vassar is not hosting a game in the ECAC tourney? ok, you definently cant put them in front of brockport (how did they not make the tournament, by the way?), and 2, 3, and 4 dont even matter that much as they can only host one game since there are only seven teams this year, and the one seed will automatically host the final four, but this team doesnt deserve a home game? they went 18-7, finished tied for second in the LL, and they are the defending ECAC champs. st john fisher was tied for third in the E8, and had a 16-11 record. i may be wrong here, but i was under the impression that ecac seedings were solely based on record.

i dunno. im just getting the feeling that vassar got shafted here.

I'm pretty sure that you can watch it on the STL website.

Quote from: XVII on February 25, 2008, 08:17:16 PM
Simmons is playing next year, because he didn't play as a freshman and is attending RPI in 2008/2009.  Can anyone say back to back POYs?

First team: Grazioli, Simmons, Avitabile, Sharlow, and Wood

If simmons is POY he isnt on the first team, aka there are six first teamers i believe. regardless, i think brazell needs to be on that list. he is the best off guard in the conference. avitabile had a tough year with injuries, so although he is prob the best player in the conference, i doubt he gets the award (although tk missed a bunch of time last year and won it) because he didnt have the best year.

agreed. the guy from clarkson should get COY.

the danish guy on the team sat out against vassar on tuesday night, and i know he joined the team half way thru the season. thats a good question because that would be a big difference in hamilton and stl end up tied.

whats the word on pickering? is he still hurt?

as a vassar guy, I say you still have to give it to avitabile, although since he has been battling injuries and sickness all season he hasnt put up the best numbers. but vc is def havin the best year of the three teams, and he is their best player so..... it will be close, they all can ball.

isnt ricky ro the guy from blue chips that wasnt penny or shaq?

and avitabile wasnt sick, he got his legs taken out by simmons going for a rebound and landed on his back hitting his head on the floor pretty hard. he has had multiple concussions during his career, and it looks like he may have gotten another one. after he hit, he left the gym and didnt return.

the tie breaker after head to head is record against the other teams that made the tourney. so stl has already all but clinched home court because even if vassar wins out and stl loses out, they will have split their season series. both teams split with hamilton, but stl swept clarkson and hobart, and (assuming vassar wins out and rpi does not win the fourth seed) vassar split with hobart and clarkson. so if rpi can somehow get the fourth seed and vassar wins out, then they will host because they swept rpi and stl will have split.

nice win for vassar tonight against rpi. rpi jumped out to a big early lead 28-15 but vc pressed them and went on a 24-7 run and ended up 1 at the half, then used a 12-0 run at the start of the second. rpi cut it to 3 with about 40 seconds left, but never got closer. the most impressive part of the win is that they did it with avitabile out for the last 30 minutes and kyle magnus, their starting center, in foul trouble the whole game. vc has a bunch of tough athletic wings that can pressure the heck out of you.

another great game for matt nunn and joe davis. and it is too bad sam simmons doesnt have more around him - i really like his game. he has an array of moves down low, he is tough on the boards, and he is strong as an ox.

great for vassar to get out of this weekend 2-0. two starters were out for both games with ankle injuries, and avitabile (as well as coach dutton) were dealing with the flu. as olballcoach said, coming out weekend for jon swartz - if they can get consistent play out of him down the stretch like he played this weekend it would be a huge boost. also great to see joe davis and dan forcella get on track, two other key role players. halfway thru league play, its starting to look like the four playoff teams will be clarkson, stl, hamilton, and vassar.  with the parody within those four teams, winning the reg season and hosting the LL tourney will be huge.

vassar escaped a disastrous loss to union, thanks is large part to tough d down the stretch, forcing steals and getting easy buckets. brewers are in a bit of a funk right now, and pretty beatup right now (even coach dutton has the flu). but like i said before, a win is a win, and good teams win the ones they are supposed even when they dont play well.

wish i could have seen the hamilton stl game. any posters there last night?

and congrats to grazioli and the 1000, as well as an early congrats to brazell from vassar (two points away).

another thing - vassar barely bears hartwick tonight 58-55 after being down big in the first half. avitabile had 4pts and 3rebs, but brazell played well (18 and 6) and butterworth knocked down four threes and hopefully is getting back on track.

not sure what to make of this, anyone know how good hartwick is this year? i know that theyve been better the last few years. regardless, good teams win when theyre supposed too even when they have an off game.......

noone said it was a cake walk. anyone that played for a team in the LL or whatever league RIT is in is obviously a pretty good basketball player, especially if they started, made all-league, etc. jud winton averaged somethin like 14 or 15 a game for his career at vassar, and even tho he played most of his career when vc was irrelevant in the league, putting up those numbers means he could play.

do you know the circumstances of murphy's tryouts abroad? was he trying out for a higher league team? also, ABA isnt a stretch for people at this level. dana martin from skidmore played for the vermont team for a while, and he might still be there.