QuoteAfter knowing him and his family when they were in Brownwood, his father was a pastor at the church I attend,  I have no doubt he's a great man, a great coach, and someone who will keep a good reputation with the HPU women's basketball program.  

Guilty by association doesn't always apply.  I think a lot of us have worked for a boss that hasn't always done things the right way but that doesn't mean you've joined in with what they've done.  To imply that someone has done so without any facts could falsely damage someone's reputation.  


As far as questioning someone's integrity, get to know someone first before you make a decision, you might be surprised at what you find out about them.

I agree with you.  I don't think anybody should judge Prock or anyone else that got left in the wake of an idiot.  Sampson took his show to Indiana and look where that got him.  It is a shame that some people get away with anything one place and go somewhere else to end up doing the same thing.  Sad!!!

Hope everything works out for HPU, it has been a fun few years watching the matchups between us.

Let it go already!!!!

Man, when I saw that HPU beat us at our place I knew we were having trouble.  That is the first time they have beaten us at home since the mid 90's.  Hpu had a good run during the mid 90's.

What else can we do to salvage the season?

Quote from: mcmfan on March 09, 2007, 11:34:19 AM
HPU has been a mystery to me.  Two years ago, when they won the conference, they looked unbeatable (of course, that's because I watched them beat McM three times in the season).  They got to host Trinity in the playoffs and lost in the first round on their own court.  Last year they lost to both McM and HSU on their home court, then beat both of us in Abilene, then got knocked out of the tournament in the second round, got to the playoffs and got beaten by HSU.  I think some of that was because Molly Buker was injured, if I remember right.  To go all the way this year needs not only the big, fast players which the team has highlighted for the last few years, but some extra consistency which seems to have been lacking then.  HPU should win it all this weekend... but will they?

HPU had young players and a young coach.  Now they both are experienced.

Quote from: fanstand on March 09, 2007, 10:48:05 AM
McM93, you do realize I was speaking of the women? Duke was undefeated when they got beat the other night. Uconn and LSU are having pretty good years, (except for the coaching thing at LSU) A&M got beat last night. Just an observation

You are right I was thinking about the men.  I forgot Duke got beat, thought maybe they would go undefeated through the NCAA's.

Quote from: fanstand on March 07, 2007, 02:37:17 PM
I've been watching lots of tourney action on T.V. Uconn got beat, LSU got beat, Duke got beat. Remember where you came from and what got you there. Don't worry about where or what time, just be humble and thankful you are where you are, still playing. 

I know what you are trying to say, but the teams you listed are not having good seasons.  These teams are way down.  HPU is arguably one of the strongest teams the ASC has every put in the playoffs.  I think HPU should be thankful they are still playing, but they should not just settle for that.

Go Lady Jackets, we will be listening!!!!!!!

I think HPU was robbed of the chance for hosting, BUT if they can emerge from this weekend it will be a good tune up for the final four run.  If they played at home the entire playoffs, they may not have been ready for the change of atmosphere that the final four site would bring.

Like the old saying: "If you can't beat them, join them!" 

I went to the HPU-CHapman game and it was an unbelievable atmosphere.  That place was packed full.

HPU played better than I had seen them the previous times and I can guarantee Chapman didn't know what they were getting into.

Who ever comes to Brownwood, you better be ready because the fans, players and atmosphere will be ready for you.

Great win for HPU and the ASC!!!!!!!!!

All I know is the nation better know that the road to the final four has to go through Texas!!!!!

Read each others minds!!!!

Quote from: mcmfan on February 27, 2007, 04:23:37 PM

Quote from: umhbcrufan16 on February 27, 2007, 11:36:42 AM
But about the fouls Sunday--total fouls were 12 to 18--at least 2 if not 3 of MCM's were at the very end on purpose, so 12 to 15-16 is not much ESPECIALLY with the  style of play I mentioned before.

What you've said about the style of play makes sense, but where are you getting the foul figures?  I read 9 free throw attempts for McM and 32 for HPU from the stats page at http://www.hputx.edu/FileUploads/07ascg7.htm.   At the risk of showing my ignorance, for I'm not a hoops specialist, how are you coming up with 12 and 18 for the respective teams?

I think he was talking team fouls with 12 and 18.  The first numbers are free throw attempts.  The free throw attempts are lopsided but if watched HPU's style of play, they take to the hole and force the other teams to foul which is a part of winning basketball.  I just haven't seen us trying too many inside shots beside Richardson.

Quote from: Rob Don on February 27, 2007, 01:15:01 AM

Quote from: inthepaint on February 26, 2007, 06:32:00 PM
My HSU Cowgirls lost?     I was away on a fishing trip and missed the action.

Go McM and HPU!  Represent the ASC well.   

Seriously i'm worried about InthePaint... those are just very strange things for InthePaint to be saying... i think he needs help.  Everyone may not recognize it but i know that Ralph has to see the change.  i'm just really concerned.

"Paint, are you ok.  if you need to talk, i'm here for you!" 

ha ha   

hmmmm seriously though...dont think i didn't notice that you put McM before HPU!!!

sneaky!

Everybody is for McM AND HPU, don't mess it up by looking deeper than it really is.

All I know is, is that I enjoyed my experience in Brownwood (besides us losing).  It was a little crowded but what was at stake on the BASKETBALL FLOOR covered all that up.  I understand being comfortable, but the whole reason we were there is to watch what every one of these young ladies have worked so hard for: A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP!!!!!

I know we lost, but we are still in the "big dance" and have as good a shot at the title as anyone else.

Can't we all just get along?  It is playoff time and everything is in the past except for the biggest tournament of the year!!!!!!  Good luck HPU and McM, they WILL represent the ASC well!!!!!!!

Quote from: mcmfan on February 26, 2007, 11:09:13 AM
There were lots of empty seats in the top reaches of the stadium away from the court.  The controversy is over availability of seats close in, where fans can make themselves heard to support their team.  I was in the section right above the McM team, and even here there were HPU fans (and even some HSU ones).  There was one sign on the back stairway which no one was using that said "visitors' seating."  There could have been much better signage to mark off who gets to sit where, in the stands themselves rather than on a back staircase.  I think we at McM and, yes, even our arch rivals at HSU (!!) do a better job of reserving quality space for opponents than has been done at the Mausoleum.

I guess we need to just win the west and host the tournament then.  I am a McM fan and I do believe HPU did a great job of hosting.  HPU is just the better team this year.