Quote from: bigerneatsboogers on November 21, 2007, 10:37:04 AM
*program
* YOUR knee

"There are a lot of questions that can be asked but we will never know why for any of them. Just think if W&J converts that fake we are not sitting here talking bad about the program but saying how much guts Mike has for calling such a play. It's a double bladed sword that has its good and bad. If you make a call like that and it does not work than the coaches should be man enough to take any criticism that any parent, fan, Alumni, or friend has to say. W&J needs to learn from the mistakes and to the SR's you guys had one hell of a ride and good luck in your future."


Dirt did you read this quote at all. I enjoyed my times at W&J and would never change them for all the money in the world. Now as for the last call of the game I can honestly say that was a bad call. But I never said he was a terrible coach; just look what he did for us my senior year. We should have been out in the first round, but mike called a great game. You can never take away. I also said in my quote that if the play would have worked we all would have complimented his call. Now it did not work, so that is that. I also got a little more in the pot than just being an alumnus, I have a brother on the team whose season is over and his football career is over.

Now as for my knee, he did support me when I blew my knee out. What else was he suppose to do tell me not to rehab or come around the field? Yes he gave me chance to come back on for the playoffs, but then again I went threw his a lot of his test to earn my spot back. I respect Mike a lot if you are an everyday ready of this post pattern site then you would have seen that I always give Mike props for being a great coach. I worked for Mike and developed a friendship with him, but when I messed up he let me know. I am not going to get in the extent of his punishments or how he handled situations, but one instance that does stick out is when he told me off in front of all the parents in Emory and Henry for getting a penalty. I messed up took my punishment like a man and moved on and did not make the mistake again. I think that he should do the same thing from this experience. It did not work take the criticism and move on and learn.

As for you, e.c and scars baths when my knee was out of order that's what friends are for and I will never forget that. I also will never forget how Chef Scars made noodles that could have used David Hasslehoff to prevent them from drowning.LOL. Like I stated before I will never forget my experiance I had at W&J, but what are people suppose to do just let it go and say its okay it was a gamble that did not work? I do not think so, when you gamble like that you will get people like me that will always question that call.  So, you can stop protecting Mr. Sirianni he is a big boy and can deal with this little sarcasm. Next year when he goes 10-0 again, this will start to fade out of peoples minds

Quote from: Darkside90 on November 20, 2007, 07:13:47 PM

Quote from: Cleveland Cartel on November 18, 2007, 11:31:21 AM
BIGERN,


Your posts always make me crack up.  I'll help you out with some positive Karma.

CC,
That's really nice of you.  Maybe now he won't CRRRRYYYYY  so much!!!!!

Oh no!  If he reads this he'll start crying again, and all your charity would have been for nothing.

Sorry Dark go to your room, adults are talking now.

I have waited three days to post something on here. I wanted to wait until I had a clear mind, but there are a few points I would like to make known.

I watched the game and thought W&J was going to slip one by NCWC, W&J had the rock on the 3 yard line less than 4 minutes to go in the game. Mike lines up in his goaline package, in which I do not disagree in doing. But he runs a gadget play on third down to get minus three yards. He faked to the fullback and tossed it to the running back. The ball was on the 1 yard line. He did not hand the ball off once to the fullback in the game. There was no set up for this play. But MIKE decided to go into his bag of tricks and pull out fake dive toss. Why not pound the ball and put the game out of reach and milk more time off the clock or spread them out and go empty and run qb draw. Bobby has not really ran the ball all year it would have been something that could have caught the defense off guard. In the first overtime before the worst call in W&J history took place Matthews scored on a draw play from like the 6 yardline. Now after this the boys lined up and were ready to kick the extra point, so we all thought. Then he puts a perfect 10-0 season and all of the seniors last year of football on the line with a fake FG with the KICKER RUNNING THE BALL. If he would have remembered just ten minutes ago when W&J was on the 1 yard line that he tried a similar trick play with the fake dive toss to his explosive RB and it did not work. So what's to say that a KICKER could have done it better?  Now as I watched this game I started to feel like 2004 season with Bridgewater and us going into overtime and we could not stop their offense, but guess what when we finally did stop them it was for the win. I think Mike lost confidence in his boys and panicked. If he wanted to WIN THAT GAME and NOT RISK A BLOCK EXTRA POINT< THEN PUT YOUR OFFENSE ON THE FIELD. I am sure that your two future all-Americans on the offensive line BUCAR & HOUY, SR T-MAC, SR HOFF, BIG GAME SWALLOW, SR MATTHEWS, CHURCH, RAT, ESPE, and The REST OF THE OFFENSE would have loved to been out on the field with a chance to win the game.

Now for defense. I do not think that Klein has been able to stop a mobile QB Since I began playing and watching W&J FOOTBALL (2007 NCWC, 2007 BC, 2006 Thomas More, 2006 MHB, 2005 Bridgewater, 2005 Salisbury, 2004 MHB, 2004 Bridgewater. I am sure there are couple of more I am missing.  He barely blitz in the second half and had his boyz dropping real deep in zone coverage and left NCWC QB plenty of room to run. I may have seen Gitlitz blitz once in the second half. Was not the same Defense that played in the first half? W&J blitzed a lot more in the first half. Which cause some confusion for QB. He went to a PREVENT DEFENSE (which is a prevent you from winning defense).

Special teams, it's what I have been saying all year that his would ultimately end the season for the Presidents. Two blocked kicks, one kicked returned and another that almost went back for a return. 40 seconds left in the first half and we kick the ball off instead of a squib kick. They almost ran back the opening kickoff was anyone else concern that we did not want to give up a big return to end the half? I guess not. NCWC was not strong on snapping for their punts did W&J think once of blocking it?

There are a lot of questions that can be asked but we will never know why for any of them. Just think if W&J converts that fake we are not sitting here talking bad about the program but saying how much guts Mike has for calling such a play. It's a double bladed sword that has its good and bad. If you make a call like that and it does not work than the coaches should be man enough to take any criticism that any parent, fan, Alumni, or friend has to say. W&J needs to learn from the mistakes and to the SR's you guys had one hell of a ride and good luck in your future.

Why is it my Karma points keep going down this is BULL CRAP

Quote from: Bob.Gregg on November 16, 2007, 10:02:01 AM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on November 15, 2007, 05:38:24 PM
Here's an open reminder that a pick to disappoint doesn't mean a first-round loss. So when W&J wins this Saturday, I hope we don't hear from them in the newspaper that we picked them to lose, like we heard in 2004.

Um, Pat, one of your guys did (pick W&J to lose) considering Bridgewater and W&J played in the first round…



"Champion
Keith: Forced to choose, I like Bridgewater’s playoff experience and the fact that they were tested early in the season and perhaps worked out the kinks since then."

Nice job Bob, I like that you are on top of your game coming into the game Saturday. As for you Pat either way you look at it in 2004 we took the words as motivation. No thought we would have made it that far into the playoffs. NO ONE BUT US. We still had people doubting us against CNU, but once again we won. It's nothing personal we just like to prove people wrong, so once again W&J is not predicted to win the south we hope to prove people wrong once again. First thing first W&J has to take care of business this weekend and that's the bottom line. Pat we love your insight and most of the time your right on. All it is anyways is just predictions the boys have to go out there and DO WORK not the writers.

With that being said W&J will win a shoot out this weekend 110-97. This will look like an NBA score when it is all said and done. All joking aside W&J wins 35-24. The Presidents have to do to NCWC Qb what the wildcats did to Dixon last night, sad to say but if their qb is out or at least pressured a lot W&J can cause mistakes and win the football game. I look for BOBBY SWALLOW TO HAVE A GREAT GAME AND GET DARKSIDE TO START SELLING SWALLOWS GAMES TOWELLS ON THE INTERNET AFTER THIS WIN.


Wes lets get it done and act college on Saturday

Well well the playoffs are finally here, but will it be here for long is the question. (dark i do not have time to play little games with you anymore because we are talking playoffs, something you know nothing about). I am excited for the game this weekend. Wes bring some brew son because i am starting to tailgate about 930. I will have three other peeps with me also will have some corn hole action to help pass some time. Now back to the game, Mike Sirianni is a game day guru when it comes to the playoffs. I am sure he is taking a dump and thinking of what plays he can run. I remember Mike saying to our team all you got to do is win four games in the playoffs and i will win the last one, but i will give mike credit he did more than help us win one playoff game but two. My guess is Mike is going to have to the same exact thing here with this years team. With the defense struggling i look for Mike to hold the Ball, change the speeds of his offense. I look for one series for them to go no huddle all the way down the field then maybe the next huddle after every play. Mike is pretty good at clock management. If and when he gets a lead look for the boys on Offense to hold the ball and play keep away from the Talented QB at N.C.

Now for the defense, i hope Klien can get his boys in position to play with the speed of N.C. The Presidents play a pretty gap sound defense, but if one person does not get to their gap responsibility then it could be a lot of turning around and chasing the speedy offense of N.C. I hope the black hole defense can turn into a bend don't break kind of defense this weekend. The defense will go as far as the three Captains on D will take them. Ryan Mullen, Todd Keenan, and Jeff Ernst. The Seniors got to realize that this could be the last time they ever strap on the pads again and better play like it or they will all be home for Thanksgiving, (i love you Jeff but i rather have turkey in Wash Pa).

Now the special teams this week will be the biggest decider for the game. I have scene every team just about break one against us this year. I think its time for the Boom squad to start living up to their name. With the 54 man roster there will be a lot of starters that will have to be on these teams. I look for a large improvement on kickoff and kickoff return. Because all i get flash backs of is the MHB game in 2004 when they blocked and ran back punts, Bridgewater that year also had a kick off return to the house. I would love to see a blocked punt and a big turnover on kickoff. CHUCK JUST KICK THE BALL OUT OF THE ENDZONE.

Dirty dog text me your number my phone broke and i do not have your number in it.

I think their will be a lot of players making big things happening this weekend. Gitlitz will have 15 tackles one sack and one interception. I also look for the d-line to contain the Vick like qb and shock the playoff scene with a total of 4.5 sacks for the game.

Quote from: EC Warrior on November 08, 2007, 01:04:20 PM
I heard Darkside and Bigern's relationship is on the rocks as well.  I hope those two can work it out, for the kids sake.

Yeah as for darkside and I we are officially over. He does not interest me anymore. When I talk to him all he talks about is the past and that's not me. I like a person who can talk about the present and future. I do not like a person who brags about one highlight in his life. I think he is opening a new post pattern site where all they talk about on there is highlights from there one year of glory and all high school stats. I encourage everyone to check it out. Darkside is also coming out with a movie this fall called Miracle on the field, a spin off of miracle on Ice. Its a action packed film with necessary roughness twist (all the loses he suffered in college). The film also has glimpses of the original movie when Thiel gets there first PAC championship the announcer screams "Do you believe in miracles" So i think that will be out just in time for Christmas.  Its a good chance for Darkside to capture the moment for a lifetime in case the post pattern site does not workout.

Saint it was nice to see you last week. I wish those flash light cops would have let us drink a little bit more in the parking lot. No worries though i will be making up for that this weekend when I finally get back to Cameron Field. Did you get your car fixed?

I will be back later with some predictions. Does anyone think that there is still any chance for Waynesburg to get in the playoffs? How did they lose last week?

Also what do people think about W&J hosting a couple of playoff games if they win Saturday? Would anyone attend on here?

Well its time to get this weeks predictions in.

First off the game of the week the yellow jackets get this honor two weeks in a row because if they lose this weekend to Geneva they are done. The glass slipper will break and the Cinderella story will end tragically. But Waynesburg fans I do think that they will hold off a bigger team in Geneva and win this game by a TD
WC 24 GC 17

Next game will be the Bethany and the Carnegie Mellon, now with the momentum on the side of Bethany I think the Passing game will keep them in the game and have a build up story going into next weeks game against the Presidents which the Presidents have shut out three straight years, but back to the game the Bison's roll and rack up almost 450 yards of offense.
BC 31 CMC 21

We are now heading to the furthest game that the PAC has to travel; it's the W&J Thomas More game. The boys in red and black are going to sharpen their wits and put the ROCK smack down on the Saints. I look for Gitlitz to keep his streak domination going as he will have 17 tackles and an interception which he will not return for a touchdown but will set one up for the Offense. I look for the D-line to get after the young QB and hear the names of Jeff Ernst and Jake bloomhuff throughout the day. They will combine for 3.5 sacks and 4 TFL's. I look for N Schafe to keep the pep band going and bottles popping after the presidents win and secure their playoff birth.
W&J 52 TMC 7

Now for my upset of the week. I look for the mighty mighty Titans to take advantage of a banged up Thiel Tomcats team and win a very close game.
The final score will be decided on turnovers and Westminster will have the least of the two teams.
TC 13 WMC 14

For the final game of the week the Wolverines and Bearcats. I love the way the Bearcats play, they play to the whistle and do not ever give up. But they are going to finish the first year winless in the PAC and the Wolverines will be doing the wolverine dance as they will try to run the score up but the Bearcats will not let that happen.
GCC 24 SVC 14

I am really loving the buzz that's going on. The game last Saturday was pretty good. The boyz in red and black held off a work horse in Heller to win the game. I am just worried about the presidents in the next two weeks, if and when they hold off the upset hopefuls in Thomas More and Bethany they will host every game until the travel to Alliance OH. But lets not get two far ahead, i still think that they need to finish up the season strong and correct anything that's been labeled a weakness for the presidents. Because as we know the teams down south in Texas have a pretty good track record against the Presidents. The running backs are faster and the linemen are larger. With saying that the game this weekend needs to be a Patriots type of victory. I need a score of 54-7. I do not think Coach Sirianni will do this because he is a classy coach, but in the same breath i think it needs to be done to keep momentum in the Presidents favor. 
Does Bethany's passing game represents a problem for the presidents next week?

Dirty what's up brother? Its about time you get your but on here. When are you going to West Lib again. Tell Pud i am smack him in the face with a carton of Parliaments and roll him down the hill behind the gym.

Wes, you making the trip down to the big game this weekend?

How many of you really thought that Waynesburg would be undefeated? Lastly what are some of the bigger games this weekend?


P.S. Pick it up ding

Saint, you are a funny dude. You coming next week or what. I know you are unbeaten against us, but i would love to have a brewski with ya.

Hey Wes i think the quad city DJ's said it best "come on and ride it, the choo choo train.......Make way the train is coming threw" By the way it was always funny as hell seeing chicken after a low kick into the back of your heads and asses. Those were the days, but lets not talk about  them because you know who will start bringing up all of the cool stuff him and his boys did that one season.  

I hope the boys come out this weekend gunz a blazing, they will need a big stop on special teams and a quick three and out to spring them a head this weekend. This will be the first game i ever miss in my brothers career at W&J. I hope he can keep the yellow jackets at bay and put a big goose egg up. Look for my predictions on Friday. I got some that may shock even the W&J fans

Quote from: EC Warrior on October 24, 2007, 09:33:30 AM
So wait a minute, does all this fighting mean I don't have a fanclub?

EC, you do have a fan club and Dark is the president. He will be in Pittsburgh holding a fan club meeting with his I never beat W&J sweat shirt on. See dark you said it right when you said I was on a team that accomplished great things and no one can take that away from me. I did start in all three PLAYOFF games and did play against you when we racked up over 200 yards of rushing. You were there, so you remember that.  I also may have been an average player on a team of superstars and All-Americans, but would have stand out on any other team. It's tough being a big fish in a lake of greatness. Now as for you I use to have respect for you, but then you opened your mouth. So I can see how un-classy you are and still bitter about you never beating us, it's okay. I may have been recognized in the PAC, since I was injured for all of the PAC games but yours and Westminster. I do not look in the past to make myself feel better.  I know what I have done and what I am doing. I am happy with that. From the sounds of that you cannot say the same.

REMEMBER ONE THING JEALOUSY IS A DISEASE AND I AM SORRY THAT YOU CAUGHT THE BUG DARKSIDE. NOW CAN WE PLEASE GET BACK ON TO THE GAMES ON HAND FOR THE WEEK. IF NOT I WILL CALL BOB JAZWINSKI UP AND HAVE HIM CUT BLOCK YOU.

Quote from: Darkside90 on October 23, 2007, 07:02:50 PM
smallerner,
ARE U CRYING AGAIN.  I was messing with ya boy "fast willy" didn't u see the smilly face.  I thought it was cool for a little friendly trash talking.  As for my Brandon Chambers comment, I was refering to the receiver Dback matchup GENIUS.  As for your comment about him, that was totally uncalled for.  I'm not sure what B. Chambers is doing with himself, but someone with a football career as insignificant as yours isn't even allowed to make reference to someone who had a career like his.  I see why the former W&J players I talked to said your not even respected among them. 

Its funny how you say none of my former teammates respect me, one was voted captain, two still keep in touch with mostly all of them and three you need to stop swinging off of the Power teet at W&J. Now as for Matthews Wes he is in and ready to rock. These means more headaches for the waynesbug defense.

Now Darkside you need to stop being a baby and quit living in the past. We would like to keep talking about this season, but you keep bring up glory days. I can say i came back to play in the PLAYOFFS FOR THREE GAMES (wouldn't be nice to say that you played in three playoff games, but you cannot) after blowing my knee out, but i do not expect to get a pat on my back for doing that. You would have been out for a whole year. Whats next you going to start talking about high school football stats. How great so and so was. Just stop it and start talking about his year. Now as for Thiel this year, they are having a bad year, but i am sure they will not fold and next year they will be a force in the PAC.

I think if W&J can make Waynesburg throw they can have a major victory on their hands. The yellowjackets do not have the WR's like in years past.
OLINE you should get more Yellowjackets on here it would be nice to have a person from each school cheering their team on in this chat room.

P.S. Willy remember when the recruits that would meet you?

Darkside,
why is it every time someone says something you got to run your mouth about arrogance. I think you should control yourself on making dumb comments. As a president i think when you start talking garbage you do not realize what you are saying, so i will let you feel like your comments are of some importance. Now as for Fast Willy he played a different positions then your boy chambers, How is he doing i heard that the crack business is booming. Isn't he in jail. But that is not a shot at all Tomcats so please do not get offended.

Now i think Bobby Swallow is a great QB he could be however replaced more so then Keller. Swallow is surrounded by talented players so Matthews, Jones and T-MAC could lift the burden off of the back up QB. Now as i say that i do not want Bobby out of the game. But as for the Jackets of Yellow i think if Keller is out Shep is on the sidelines fighting with another parent because he will not know how to deal with the pressure letting a RB dictate the game. For instance i do not see the yellow jackets compromising the run game with a legit passing game. Now this could be said for the Presidents.

Presidents
Athletics
Conference

remember the name and remember the greatness.

P.S. Darkside you started it. That's how us Arrogant boys do it, you mess with one you mess with us all.

Kiss the RINGS

Well Dark it was not so much the tongue lashing from you two, because i can handle some tongue lashing. It was that my karma points were going down. i am not a fan of being in the negative. So i lightened up so my points can go up. I know we talked a lot of trash on the field when we played, whether it was me talking after a score or high low with one of my tackles, it was all fun. Now that i am in the real world i do not get a chance to display my verbal assault on anybody. It would be kind of difficult to keep a job if you came into the office after a sale and started jaw jacking your fellow co-workers. Or if i called done of my competitors up and started on them (i think that's called harassment). That's why posting on here is so much fun.

I would like to comment on my predictions from last week. One i am pretty good at calling out the victories just like in my glory days such as calling the Bethany win and passing bonanza, J/K, but i really thought that Thiel would beat Waynesburg. I bet the reason why Thiel did not win is because Shep decided not to start a fight with Thiel College like they did the year before, when Shep lead the boys over to Thiel as they were coming on the field. I am very hopeful that the yellow jackets try that mess when they play the boys in RED & BLACK come down there this weekend.  That's another thing I forgot to bring up about Shep last week is that last year he tried to bully teams by having his boys start a fight with the other team before the game started. He did it at Thiel last year and at W&J, but I think he got away from that since both teams did not back down from his approach.  Now don't get me wrong i think that it is awesome that two teams in the PAC are doing well, but i wish it was any other team than Waynesburg. I am not a fan of the school at all; i am not a fan of the head coach. The only person i know and care for is Scotty V. To be honest with you i rather the presidents be winless then to have WC undefeated.
I am going to stop now before i get to crazy with my comments.

Saint I am coming down next week what's your status on coming to the game. Tennessee is out of contention and Notre Dame has no chance. Come to the stadium and share a drink.

Now to things that matter the predictions.

First off the game of the week Thiel verses the Waynesburg college. I think that this will be the quickest game in PAC history with a combine 400 yards of rushing from both teams. The only problem is that the rushing yards will come mostly on the Thiel Side as Minton and company will rush for 280 yards of offense. As for the freshmen Sensation from WC he will get a little taste of a stingy defense. He will only have 68 yards on 22 carries. He will now know what it feels like to be a college rival game. The tomcats do not care for the yellow jackets and its the same on the other side. Final score will come as Minton breaks another long run of 50 yards to put the game away.
TC 28 WC 10

SV is starting to gain some confidence but it will not be enough to edge the boys of Case Western the Bearcats will have one special teams TD and a Defensive TD.
SV 17 CW 35


Now we going back to a PAC battle as the Bison hope to get back on track with a victory over the battered Titans. I think this will be a rebound game for the Bison's and they will roll on to a stunning victory as the passing game will take off. The bison's will have 322 yards of passing with 3 TDs and 1 interception, but it will be a first half ending interception.
BC 24 WEST 17

Thomas More will hope to get back on track, but it will be the wrong track since they are playing Geneva. Thomas More will be getting more and more experience as the young team will battle but in the end lose by only 1 TD
TMC 14 GENEVA 21

Now to my favorite game of the week the Presidents of W&J at Grove City College. The presidents have had some problems playing the Wolverines at the field. In the last two meetings at GCC the presidents has let Grove City break one school record. 4 Years ago it was the longest kickoff return for a TD and two years ago it was the longest Interception return. I look for this to be a first half blow out to a certain extent, but look for the Wolverines to start the Wolverine Shuffle in the second half to make it a good game. The Wolverines will use long counts and misdirection to throw off the young defense of the presidents. I think that is will only work for about two plays then the boys in the red and black will be doing the Crank that dance and supermaning in the endzone. In this prediction i will give two scores a first half score and a second half score. the special team will finally make a stand on kickoff since they will be doing a lot of it and i am sure that coach Goff pink slip a lot of kids after two weeks a failure. I look for a force fumble on kickoff and Blocked Punt.
W&J 31 GCC 7 W&J 38 GCC 21