Quote from: bsc73 on December 04, 2017, 09:01:32 PM
Assumption OC, Paul McDonagle new coach at Endicott.

Makes a ton of sense. Coached TE's there after being let go at Fitchburg. Knows the league and the area pretty well. Did a hell of a job with Chesney (Old Salve Coach) at Assumption and put up a ton of points there the past 3 years. I watched the end of their quarterfinal game and they were a goal line stand away from being in the D2 semifinals. Really interested to see how he does there.

I would love nothing more to see than Husson pull this game out. I just have to agree with the others that Husson hasn't seen anything close to this caliber of team they are going to see Saturday. I think the John Smith kid is an absolute stud, and I'm going to watch at least a couple Husson drives just to see him play against elite competition, because as DLIP says, the kid doesn't quit and makes something out of nothing more often than not.

Quote from: Teamski on November 21, 2017, 04:12:29 PM

Quote from: fisheralum91 on November 21, 2017, 01:01:31 PM
Who says Wesley gets past Brockport?

Don't expect anyone here to say they won't.  It will be a tough game, but I will say that Wesley has better talent on board than Brockport.  As mentioned, if Wesley puts together a 4 quarter game that they are capable of, they win.  Period.

-Ski

I'll say it. I think Brockport wins. Haha.

Quote from: fulbakdad on November 18, 2017, 06:54:46 AM
Could Wells be returning?  If you follow the NESCAC board he was let go the other day.  Probably saw that recruiting in NESCAC very different than for Endicott,

Was he let go? I just checked their website and couldn't find anything. I know their was a post referencing why he hadn't been criticized more for his poor record but most posters seemed to think he needed and should get more time.

Quote from: fulbakdad on November 21, 2017, 05:53:59 AM
Come on Boxer...

Framingham lost to Plymouth.  If you had won, you would have been the team playing.  But you didn't.  So get your sights ready to come back next year.

I got the gist of the message, I don't quite get where "finally get your info right" is coming from. I was saying it was a shame Framingham lost because they would of been undefeated and gotten a favorable draw. As D3MAFan pointed out, an undefeated Framingham probably would of been ranked high enough to either play WNEC, Husson, or Springfield.

I guess MASACAlum didn't agree with that and said I need to get informed. As you might infer, I believe I'm informed and indeed correct in this situation. Hence why I responded "Don't quite get what you are saying here".

But thanks for pointing out the obvious for me.

and Mount Ida lost by 60 something to Wesley and Suny lost by 60 something to Alfred. Husson leaving just means this conference is inexplicably bad.

Quote from: MASCACAlum on November 19, 2017, 09:21:12 PM
Got to win to get in. Going to be a long couple months getting ready for next year. Finally you got to get your info right. Husson could of only got Springfield because of Springfield's ranking and husson location. Better luck next year for all teams.

Don't quite get what you are saying here.

No other way to describe that Plymouth St game than embarrassing. Its a shame Fram. lost to Plymouth with their back up QB because since he returned that offense was really starting to find its groove. An undefeated Framingham team probably draws Husson or Springfield, and a solid chance for a victory. Instead Plymouth gets monkey stomped, completely looking inept and hurting the league's reputation greatly. We go from Bridgewater almost beating the E8 champion in the playoffs last year to losing by 66 points the next year.

I'm definitely not saying West Conn or Framingham State are beating Brockport, because they are not, but they are probably giving them some sort of game that at least draws some respect.

I just don't see Plymouth being able to muster anything on offense to win this game. I think Plymouth has a damn good defense, that can definitely hold Brockport to 24 or under, especially with key Brockport players being out or beat up. I just don't see Plymouth getting to 10 points with that Brockport D line shutting down the run game and making them extremely one dimensional.

Quote from: Eagle322 on November 16, 2017, 09:18:17 AM
Ben Martin out of Union will definitely be in the mix for the HC job at Endicott. A former Trinity O-lineman (sound familiar Gulls fans?), he has been at Union for 2 years and preceded that with stints in the NFL and at Texas A&M. He is a North Shore guy to boot, so keep your eyes out for this guy taking the reigns for the Gulls next year.

I was going to throw out that name too! I think he will be the guy if he applies. Well respected around the area as well.

Decent matchup for Plymouth St. against Brockport. Have a better breakdown later this week. Plymouth should be well rested.

I think West Conn is going to win this one. This game means more for West Conn. then it does for Framingham, as a Win gives West Conn the auto-bid. Framingham's offense just stinks as of right now and the defense has been carrying the team. I think West Conn. is able to put up the points necessary to win this. I think the final is 29-17 West Conn.

Plymouth v Fitchburg is the other meaningful game and Plymouth should be able to run the ball on Fitch. and shut them down defensively, as they have everyone except West Conn, and get a W. Final 27-7 Plymouth.

A pretty blah slate of games this week, and really last week too. Bridgewater gave West Conn a good game and played well despite having some key injuries to deal with. I guess the big game of the week is West Conn and Fitchburg, but I think West Conn is the better team. Couple years ago I think West Conn needed overtime in a very similar situation to beat Fitchburg, so maybe there is some intrigue in that game. But, I think the most suspense right now is with Cortland, if they continue to win out, then Framingham will have a shot at an at large bid, and possibly another 2 bid MASAC playoff run. I know a lot of people will hate that, but its certainly a possibility.

Plymouth definitely deserved to win this game and it was an awesome game to watch. The Plymouth announcers were pretty good IMO, which is bonus when compared to most MASAC games.  Plymouth wasn't the most talented team, but they were without a doubt the more mentally tough and disciplined team. I said Plymouth would have to win the special teams battle to win and they certainly did with 3 blocked FG's and a huge return to set up their second TD of the day. Plymouth got a huge push up the middle consistently on every FG attempt, Even on the second extra point for Framingham, they motioned the wing to the right side, I'm guessing to help with an  extra edge rusher from Plymouth and the edge rusher on the left side, with no one else even next to him inside almost blocked the extra point because no on from Fram. touched him!  They also went down and tackled on Kick Off forcing Framingham to drive the field, for the most part which they did.

Framingham committed some really bad penalties as well, I think they must of had 3 dead ball personal fouls, one that kept Plymouth's second TD drive of the day alive. They committed one on a careless cheap shot crack block after the whistle on a huge screen play of 20 something yards on offense They had a huge fumble which deep in their territory to lead to Plymouth's first TD and another in the red zone. You can't beat good teams with stupid penalties and turnovers like that.

Fulbakdad brought up Plymouth being able to run the ball in the second half, but in all honesty, Plymouth couldn't run the ball at all most of the game. I think they averaged or were at 2 yards a carry for the game. They hit a HUGE screen on 4th and 1 in which the QB did just wing it out there as he got crushed and the Framingham linebacker looked to misplay what could of been an easy pick, that led to a huge TD to answer a Framingham TD in the second half. Again that was set up because of dead ball personal foul on Framingham on 2nd or 3rd and long.

DMA3Fan brought up the penalties against Framingham and I'm guessing he was upset about the holding call on third and long and the PI on 3rd and long, both on passes that were just thrown up there for grabs and quite frankly, might not even have been catchable. Both calls I would agree were a little ticky tack, especially in the situation, but they didn't lead to Plymouth scores. In fact, on replay both were the correct calls. #9 definitely grabbed jersey and he most certainly didn't have to. #37 definitely wrapped his arm up around the WR early and REALLY DIDN'T have to. If he kept his feet and undercut the pass its probably a PICK 6. Again, I thought those were undisciplined penalties, both well short of the sticks on third down, that didn't need to be committed.

In terms of the playcalling mentioned, I thought Framingham called the correct plays. Plymouth was in a 42 front playing off Cover 1, so Framingham attacked underneath and made Plymouth tackle them, which Plymouth most certainly did. Plymouth wanted to make Framingham drive down the field and do it through quick throws and that's what exactly happened. Wright had 3 carries for -3 yards in the first half, which makes me think Framingham didn't think they could pound it inside anyways and the quick screen and pass game was the option all along. Wright did have I believe 6 carries for 48 yards or something in the second half, and was really bouncing the ball on his inside runs late in the game for some good success. I'm surprised Fram. did try to challenge Plymouth outside more in the run game, especially when Wright had some success bouncing some. The only playcall that was puzzling was the reverse, but they ended up convereting a 3-21 after that debacle anyways so it didn't matter.

Plymouth legit runs lead iso and inside zone over and over again. I saw it in the Bridgewater game, but it just seemed much more prevalent in this game since Plymouth was struggling to run the ball unlike v. Bridgewater.  I was waiting for Plymouth did hit them with a playaction on first down almost the entire game, and they did once which led to their first TD. But man O man, Plymouth just loves to run lead power, zone, iso over and over again. I had more of an issue with their playcalls because they were having a tough time moving the ball and didn't really change it up, at all. Regardless, the screen call was clutch, and finally outside the box, as well as the roll out pass for their second TD. I was surprised with the success of those plays, we didn't see more of them or different variations of those calls.

Sorry for the long post, but it was a great game and we finally have some talk going on this board about specific games.

Plymouth needs a big week of out of their tailback Banuskavich to win this game and I just don't see that happening. Framingham's  run defense has been fantastic all year, probably IMO the best one in New England. Plymouth has been having trouble running the ball consistently outside of Banusakvich's big game last week vs. Bridgewater. Plymouth has one weapon in Scluzich who they like to get the ball too, but do not have too much outside of him as big play options. Kelly has matched his catch totals, but isn't nearly as explosive as a downfield threat. I just don't see Plymouth having enough offense to win this game.

Dating back the past two years, Plymouth has only lost 5 games, all of them have been by once score or less except to.... you guessed it Framingham, who blasted them 41-7.
The year before, and a much worst Plymouth team, similar story with Framingham winning 34-3. Plymouth scored on a punt return last week, and I think are going to need some big special teams plays to gain an advantage on Framingham in this game.

Plymouth States defense has been tremendous this year, only allowing 10 points a game and holding teams to 79 rushing yards a game. Their giving up around 220 a game in the pass, but West Conn bloated that number when Fleeting put up 440 yards on them. Plymouth needs to hold Framingham State to under 21 points to win this game, and they have the statistics to prove they might be able to do it, but the eye test says they've played some really subpar offenses this year. The only plus offense they have faced is West Conn who hung 37 on them and threw up 550 yards of total offense.

I think this is going to be a really slow, prodding affair, where the defenses win the majority of the afternoon. I think Framingham is going to wear Plymouth down eventually. Framingham is tops in the league holding onto the ball for an average of 34 minutes a game and they lead the league with a 51% clip on third down conversions. I think this will take its toll on Plymouth as the game wears on because they have struggled in conference play at converting on third down at only 36%, and Framingham defense is going to be the best they have seen.

Plymouth IMO, has to think outside the box here, and do some things that haven't shown up on tape to gain some sort of traction on offense. Trick plays are one thing, but maybe using Edwards in the run game to gain an extra blocker up front, or some man beaters/pick plays to open up some more room underneath for the receivers. Plymouth has been very good at home, has been getting good crowds, so they need to take advantage of that buy making some noise offensively.

Final Score

Framingham 31
Plymouth 14