mind you all, if you're assuming MU/Ithaca will be a good game...

granted, it was week one, however, Lycoming lost to Ithaca 17-16 ... AT Ithaca. Just throwing that out there...

 

Can someone inform me of the criteria involved in selecting the MAC All-Conference teams?

How did Joe Brennan not make first team with 44 catches for 813 yrds. and 9 TD's?

What about Shellenberger for at least second team? 618 yrds. and 5 TD's, and drawing double teams each week.

Appreciate the directions link....looking forward to a good game in New York. Weather should be nice and cozy I assume!

What are the Hobart injuries as of late heading into the playoffs??

Sounds good KingSting. Thanks for the response!

Hello All,
New member here, as I've been ridiculed previously this week on the MAC board for my limited posting until now, I apologize, I just recently started reading the boards.

I enjoy the debates and conversation, what catches my eye on this board is the overall agreement that a line of 17.5 set for Hobart and Lycoming is a bit of a stretch. I am a firm believer that statistics can only do so much, and the game must be played to see who the victor will be. Paper is pointless to an extent. However, on common ground, Hobart and Lycoming both played Susquehanna this year. The statistics from that game are pretty dead middle between the teams in their victories over SU. Although the statistics are very very close as to how each team played...Lycoming rushed for slightly more (221 vs. 236), passed for slightly more (149 vs. 196) and out-gained in total yardage (370 vs. 432). Lycoming did throw 3 int's to Hobart's 1. Hobart had 11 penalties for 81 yrds. and Lycoming had 9 for 100 yrds. These stats are, once again, only stats....but I consider it fair to say that Lycoming and Hobart will be a much closer game than 17.5.

As for the home field advantage for Hobart that should be somewhat of an advantage, Lycoming is struggling to play well on same day trips. However, their only over-night away loss came to the Bombers in week 1 by the special teams let down of a blocked extra point (17-16 Ithaca, #12 in D3 football)....As for the possibility of a hostile crowd in Geneva.... Hobart's avg. attendance is only a mere 724 fans per game....on the road Lycoming has played in front of on average 2,102 fans a Saturday on the road.

Special Teams will be a big factor in this weekend's game at Boswell Field.

Good Luck Lyco.

Mr. Thompson,
I apologize, maybe my claim that DVC has been a perennial powerhouse in the MAC stretches what you believe defines "powerhouse". I was basing my statement on the fact that in three seasons (2003-2005) DVC was 26-2 in MAC games, also from 2003-present they have racked up a conference record of 44-8. So in my theory, they have been a perennial powerhouse in the MAC of recent simply because their conference record for five years has been tremendous making them a powerhouse in the MAC, year in and year out...MUC surely is a powerhouse, but honestly who is not aware of that?

KingSting,
I know players that were at DVC and helped turn that program around, and I've often offered congratulations to them about where they've helped get their program. With that, I understand your proud of your son, and I would be too. That has nothing to do w/ any of my posts...I'd like to keep it to the facts. (Not trying to make any of this personal) Congratulations to your son and the Aggies as well as the rest of the MAC for an awesome year of football.

Thanks,
Thee Apprentice

Hey KingSting,

Re: "front-runner"
Front runner? Just because you've been a front-runner since we'll say 2003 (if you've even been one for that long?) I really don't think it has been that hard to back DelVal, considering they've been outstanding in the past 5 seasons. I really don't find it neccesary to call me one, simply because I haven't been posting on d3football.com message boards. This really doesn't show who is a "true fan" ..... I stated facts and opinion...which I am allowed to do on here. I have been a Lycoming football fan ever since being introduced to it in 2000. I am not a "front-runner" although your weak assessments do not phase me, I am interested in putting your shallow comment to rest. Have you always been proud of your Aggies (which maybe you have been) or just since maybe around 2003? I agree however, you are entitled 100% to your opinion...but with all due respect to you KingSting, your "humble opinion" of DVC would win 7 out of 10 games against Lyco....is totally irrelevant in what matters....and what matters is the MAC automatic birth to the NCAA D-III Playoffs goes to......Lycoming College.

Delaware Valley Football
1999 (2-8, 2-7 MAC)
2000 (3-7, 3-6 MAC)
2001 (3-7, 2-7 MAC)
2002 (2-8, 1-8 MAC

To real DVC fans, I appreciate your teams success against Albright, and I do agree that DelVal has come to be a perenial powerhouse in the MAC and my hat is off to the program and  how far they have come. Once again, my earlier comments to PBR were simply a stand for Lycoming and what they've overcome in their rise back to the top of the MAC.

PBR,
Chillllllllllllllllll don't get so upset....I understand that your beef is not with Lycoming as my beef is not with you. I simply stated the facts....and your right, after ALL this is a board where things are debated. I never put a personal attack on you...I stated the facts along w/ my reasonable opinion. As for my one post a year....I'm a new member and a person who would like to truly congratulate the Lycoming football team, Coach Clark and staff without an excuse for another team as why they're not in!  

As for "thick skin"....I'll refrain from personal comments. The Apprentice appreciates your concern.

"just obrservations...when a team beats who dvc did this year and has to play under those conditions it allows 1 to question how good a team is, especially when they stumbled to the finish line. somehow pbr doesnt see lyco beating wesley, salisbury, albright this year. but now you have a chance to prove everyone wrong and play hobart and then muc. if your as good as you claim lyco to be then we shall should see a very close game against muc?"

"just observations"...but I'm pretty sure Lycoming beat Albright with a pretty convincing performance, the score makes the game closer than it really was....and lost to #12 Ithaca (who is a 2 seed in the playoffs) via a blocked extra point. As for the pitty party for the conditions of the game at Lycoming v.s. DVC...I'm quick to "observe" DVC's 7 fumbles losing 2 v.s. Lycoming's 4 fumbles losng zero. I'm also quick to "observe" they both played at Person field at the same time, under the same conditions, on the same field....so while you offer congratulatory remarks, i'm not so sure you should offer them after trying to excuse your teams "unfair conditions". As for the playoffs, Lycoming is very capable of beating Hobart...and they will matchup against MU just as fairly as any deserving team who gets that opportunity. To think DVC would be any more favored against MU is an extreme overstatement and statistically false in the case between Lycoming or DVC, so I would ask you be slightly more reasonable in your "observations" and realize one thing, Lycoming is in, in 2008. They beat DVC and they beat Albright...can't say much more. Finally, what "claim" do you speak of?? I can only claim Lycoming is better than DVC this year. Thanks.

Bman,
       Lycoming didn't do that web sight, John Green did. John is not affiliated with Lycoming College.