With the regular season breathing down our necks and a lot of teams holding scrimmages and such this weekend, I was wondering if anyone got a chance to take an early look at any MIAC teams this weekend? I know St. Thomas scrimmaged Martin Luther and some cyber sleuthing told me that Hamline had a so-so outing against a Northwestern team that quite frankly shouldn't stand a chance against legitimate MIAC competition. What about the other schools? Any  optimism around the MIAC or is every team in the league just handing the title to Ray Grant Jr. this season?

Quote from: Northern WinterHawk on June 11, 2010, 12:00:14 AM

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Quote from: Northern WinterHawk on June 09, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
Nebraska Headed to the Big 10... Awesome!!!

The Big Red and the caruso led purple barneys, long live the Big Ten.

My God, you Johnnie People Suck... Bunch'a  Panty Waist Losers that conveniently drop off the DIII boards when a little Tommie Talk brings Reality & Honest Talk to the Table's. Can't wait to kick U're Putrid Johnnie Tail this fall.

You're not only a laughing stock in all of Football general but more interestingly on the DIII Boards. I Can't tell you how many Fans from DI to DIII have given me the "thumbs up" on exposing You Johnnie Puke's as imposters on these DIII Boards...

God Life Is Good in Tommie-ville!!!




NWH

Northern WinterHawk, stop please. Thanks.   

Quote from: Redtooth on June 08, 2010, 05:24:28 PM

-as important as the new facilities are to recruiting, financial aid philosophy and policy plays an even bigger determinate factor in where kids end up going to school.  When the comprehensive cost of little Tommie's college education is offset by an aid award that is significantly higher at one school over all the others, little Tommie's ego is stroked and he ends up at that school. 

Oddly enough transfers get next to nothing in aid if we're refering specifically to the guy from Cretin. But otherwise UST does try and offer a helpful amount of financial aid to MOST of it's student body. Just because you only read about athletes getting them in the SPORTS SECTION doesn't mean other students don't get the same treatment if not better. Why should a school apologize for wanting to bring students in? Again, that doesn't make much sense. And it's been noted that SJU gives "leadership scholarships" or something of that sort to a lot of their athletes so you may need to re-evaluate your stance on the whole ordeal.

As far as Faunch's point about scenery and what not, if you could see through your Cardinal colored glasses for a second it wouldn't be too hard to see that most players are going to care more about facilities that make them better and that  look good/are more fun than Pine trees. Pine trees dude? Really? Wow. Yeah SJU trumps everyone in attendance so that's a plus, but if all a person cares about is how many people are in the stands watching them what happens at an away game when a school's fan base isn't a as strong as yours? The guy just quits playing or sits out that game? Doubt it. At the DIII level people play for the love of the game. It's a bonus to have a ton of adoring fans but at this level, the groupie factor is probably minimal at best for most players.

And if you think think making a recruit feel welcome is kissing ass, I'd love for you to take a glimpse of what goes on at the DI level...your head would explode.

Final point congratulations at beating St. Thomas...you know for a team that no one seems to think very highly of...ya'll sure do love to bring up how much you've beat that terrible, terrible down in St. Paul. Weird.

QuoteJohnnies really need to start smooching the asses of some these kids a bit.  I guess it's just how kids are these days...they want to be needed , pampered and wanted.  I also am pretty sure that young Harry has never been to a game at Collegeville.  I guess if a kid wants to play all of his meaningful years of football in the same location that's his choice.  Again I have no idea why a kid would want to play 4 years at a half empty O'Shaughnessy Stadium when he could be in the Natural Bowl.

Sooooo  what you're implying that there's something wrong with him for wanting to go to a place where he feels he can go and feel comfortable, have a good time, maybe play a little bit right away? That makes no sense, who in the recruiting process goes to a place they don't feel welcome? Secondly, like it's already been pointed out, St. Thomas is getting brand new facilities you don't think that's not a draw? He should want to play in the "Natural bowl" where people get pissed  because they're putting up lights instead of enjoying a tricked out locker room and athletic facility that probably rivals the gophers.  Dumbest thing I've heard in awhile, thanks for playing though.

And as for all the other haters around here, here's some more news verifying how badly the Tommies suck and how their recruits are no good...

http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/Preseason-Award.html **

http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/Recruit_6-5.html

**Now, I have no faith in the two magazines that gave the pre-season all-american awards because of how ignorant they were when ranking our beloved MIAC squads but for the sake of this particular rant, I'm using the link.

Quote from: OleHog74 on November 08, 2009, 11:30:55 AM
Willy-

No one this season has been able to rush much against the Oles-- although the SJU fullback did pretty well I think.

Um...Really no one?

Because I think St. Thomas' running back had over 150 ( actually 176 on 24 carries) against them...Seems to me  that St. Thomas held their own against the Oles.

QuoteThat being said, my point was that UST has a good O-Line.

Maybe this is a better indication?

http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/TeamWeek_9-22.html

Also UST ranks 16th in rushing offense (257.6); seventh in scoring (44.0 ppg); 19th in total offense (465.2 ypg) two or less sacks allowed.

Wartman is 11th in rushing (132.0 ypg), first in scoring (18.6 ppg) and 26th in all-purpose yards (158.6 ypg).

To me stats like this show that the line has definately been doing some heavy lifting this season.

 

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If those pictures are not representative, then show us the better one.  I suspect if there was a better one, then you would have already linked to it rather than appeal to Concordia players to save the argument for you.  If you haven't looked yet then I'm surprised.  After all, it's not like you just creaked into here to say something two weeks before the Johnnie game, unlike to those fair-weather basketball fans, eh?

You're right I looked and couldn't find one, but lack of evidence doesn't mean there is isn't any evidence. And it's actually less than one week before the TOMMIE game, and if you actually did any sort of research you'd see I've actually posted before. Just hard for you to notice between all your bad jokes and Johnnie teat suckling.

QuoteAnd you must have a really loose definition of 'nice chunk of the student body' when the undergrad enrollment is over 5,500 and you haven't even come close to filling up a 5,000 seat stadium.  Also, keep in mind that what you see in these sad pictures of the 1/2 filled stadium constitutes both teams fans (granted the Cobbers have to travel a long way).

And you should probably keep in mind that those pictures were taken before kick off and at kick off...It's not  hard to see that. Again UST fans are notoriously late/ and no there aren't as many as SJU...I get that. They come late, cheer loud...get to cold and leave. Great fans, no. But I think if you ask players from Concordia, they'd probably say there was a sizable crowd.

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And I have to say, after looking at the D3fb picks from the game, it was pretty pathetic.  The largest school in the MIAC, sitting undefeated and ranked, playing its homecoming game, and the stands weren't even close to full.  That is really sad! 

Then again, I think you Johnnie fans have a bit of a skewed perspective.  The benefit of having been good to great for arguably the last 50 years means your fans haven't exactly had to endure a whole lot of adversity. 

The Tommies seem to have some really 'fair weather fans,' but then again, SJU could also have fair weather fans.  We just don't know, given that the weather has been 'fair' for half a century.  But, I guess you can't fault SJU or its fans for the fact they've been good for so long.  Just makes me wonder, what would crowds at Collegeville look like if they had a string of losing seasons.  My guess is, they'd still be better than what we see at UST, but it would be interesting to see. 

Huh? I was at the game and the stands were pretty crowded until late in the 4th when the game was already decided. The seminarians were in in full force and along with a nice chunk of the student body kept the noise coming the whole game. I'd agree we have some pretty fair weather fans here (especially during hoops season) BUT I don't think the crowd on Saturday was as bad as you're trying to make it out to be. Also I know some people who used to play for SJU and they would regularly complain about the fact that though the crowds were big noise was lacking. It's D3 football...it you want 110,000 people go watch a Michigan or Ohio State.

Quote from: OleHog74 on September 19, 2009, 12:16:33 PM
Time for the Oles to step up and show how overrated the Tommies really are.

After talking with some players and coaches this week I can say that Olaf is quietly confident. They have a solid game plan and practiced well this week.  Prediction:  St. Olaf 27  St. Thomas 14

....Whoops....

Found this on the Times website...

MIAC revises policy on honoring redshirts
Posted 9/17/2009 10:05 PM CDT on sctimes.com
The presidents of the MIAC schools have voted to revise the conference's policy on honoring redshirts athletes received at Division I and II schools before transferring into the conference. Those redshirts will now be honored, meaning athletes affected will have an extra year of eligibility in the conference.
MIAC executive director Dan McKane confirmed Thursday night that the presidents voted to approve the change this week. The change will take effect immediately, meaning those athletes already at MIAC schools who redshirted at their prior schools previously now have an extra year of eligibility should they choose to use it.
"It will be honored even if they've already transferred," McKane said. "So that means even if someone has been at a school like St. John's for a couple of years, but they redshirted as a freshman at another school, they now have an extra year if they want to use it."
Conceivably, McKane said, the change would also allow a student who had used up their eligibility under the old rules to return immediately and re-join a team in the conference if they had redshirted at a previous school and now have a fifth year available to them.
St. John's athletic director Tom Stock said the policy change is a good one for the conference.
"This is a good move for us as a league," Stock said. "I think it will help attract transfers to the conference and it will level the playing field when it comes to the playoffs with leagues like the (Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference) and the (Iowa Intercollegiate Athletic Conference)."

I firmly believe this is about to change the face of the MIAC and make it a lot more competitive over the comming years.

Quote from: tmerton on August 07, 2009, 10:50:57 AM

John was on fire at the luncheon yesterday - a video of his remarks can still be seen if you go to the story on the Daily Planet website.  I wonder if his reference to STU "still" giving athletic scholarships will hit any nerves down at the end of Summit Avenue, but it certainly is interesting how they managed to give that fantastically talented quarterback a full ride.  Even better was when he explained that he tells the team that when they are playing STU all they have to do is keep it close and the Tommies will find a way to screw it up at the end.  Last year, he said, was just a classic example of this.  "Most of them are Irish," he said, "they just get excited."

   Honestly I think that's a joke. Yes the kid got a scholarship, but obviously it's not athletic, you think UST (Not STU) would let him talk about a completely illegal scholarship to a reporter? Really? St. Thomas for years has been trying "diversify" it's campus and they actually have a scholarship geared towards minority students that pays for tuition and room & board. I think if you took a look at past award winners, you'd see that only a small percentage of them are athletes. Also if you want to point fingers...how many kids at SJU pay the full $34,000 or whatever it is to go to school there? I'd have to imagine that there are a good amount of athletes there who can't afford that and do what they can to get the price knocked down.
    I think it's kind of ignorant to say that the kid doesn't deserve the scholarship he got because he's an athlete. Something tells me if you look at Morse's grades, it's not like he's a dumb athlete stealing a spot from someone who deserves it more, it's more like he's a good kid who gets a chance to go to a good school.
   Finally, I can't even believe John would say the stuff he's saying about UST in front of a room full of people, even the oldest coaches understand that it's better to be coy, then to give a team bulletin board material...kind of shocked he took the Lane Kiffin route.

**Side note: I love Lane Kiffin, so I guess I'm not really mad, just more surprised about Gagliardi's comments than anything.**

I figured since the only thing you see on ESPN now is talk about training camp and QB controversies...it might be time for a little football talk? (Don't judge me.)

I just came across these articles on the St. thomas website:

http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/Ostrue_July28.html

http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/news/Poll_Aug4.html

Anyone believe the Tommies will actually match up to the hype? It's kind of strange to say that considering there's never really been hype about the program this early for the last 20 years....

Any thoughts on the rest of the teams from the MIAC? Predictions? Anything...I need my MIAC football fix.

(And here come the insults....)

Nice few wins down the stretch for the Tommies. Their success this year is really putting the school and the MIAC in the spotlight which is good to see.

Please tell me someone else saw Crowder from GAC give the Tommie students the ol' one figured salute on saturday, not once but TWICE. I'm sure he's a good kid and plays hard, but I was a little surprised no one called him out on his actions on saturday. I love to see a guy play into the crowd, but that sort of thing makes everyone on his team look bad and to be honest there wasn't really anything to warrant it. I know the Tommie fans usually get blasted for being not being good enough fans but I've been impressed with a small contingent of diehard students who have made an effort to make the game just a bit more annoying for the opposing team.

Someone mentioned the play of Brady Ervin and I can't help but add on to that. Word around campus is that his teammates love the guy and that he can legitimately play (He's not just a football player playin hoops, he plays football AND can hoop...there's a difference). He's known for his beastly D but I was a little surprised about how aggressively he plays on the offensive end. I'm guessing Coach Fritz got in his ear a bit gave him a little confidence against bethel. I realize he only had six points but it seems like the potential is there to get a solid 8-10 from him in the future.

It'll be interesting to see if any of the other footballers see any tick this year...or stick around in the future...Who's been the last "big name" athlete to play both football and basketball in the MIAC? Does anyone know?

As for Archer I no one really knew what the deal was with him. The most information that I've heard is that he isn't sick and is still in school...Hope he gets through whatever it is that's going on.