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Quote from: faunch on January 24, 2026, 10:40:19 AMWould you rather be a beast on playoff level D3 team or an ok running back on a below average D1 team?

Football-wise, playoff team. Pocketbook-wise - free schooling all the way - below average team. Chances(albeit slim) to make the NFL - below average team (when was the last D3 draftee?).  Academics-wise, it depends what you like, but I'll give Albany and Susquehanna a draw, even if that's probably not true in actuality, with Albany being the better ranked and generally regarded of the two institutions (not that rankings are everything).

The equation has more than one variable, otherwise, who would ever go anywhere other than the bluest of blue blood division 1 programs; totally for free and make some of that sweet NIL and revenue sharing money?

With that said, U Albany wasn't good last year, but as recently as 2023 they went to the FCS semi-finals, so it's not as if there isn't some recent success.

I believe Quinn Meinerz (3rd round in 2021) was the last player drafted from a D3 school.  He's now a 2-time first-team all-pro.  Bartch was drafted the year before (https://www.d3football.com/interactive/faq/general#11).

With the transfer portal I'm not sure we'll see this happen as often as we used to, I'm guessing the guys that show the potential will move up for a year or two before they are draft eligible.

Quote from: DuffMan on November 05, 2025, 10:50:24 PMWatching what SJU did to the Hot Carls, I would be very surprised (pleasantly) if Bethel's MOV is < 30.

Hope you're off by at least 101 points

I wasn't sure what the MIAC tiebreakers were in the unlikely event that Carleton beats Bethel and we end up in a 3-way tie:

• Head to Head winner among tied teams
• Results against teams not tied in descending order
• Point differential between tied teams
• Team not in the NCAA Playoffs most recently
• NPI Ranking [as listed one hour before NCAA AQ deadline]
• Coin flip.

Given the results so far and assuming no upsets other than this game the rest of the year, Carleton needs to beat Bethel by 71 or more this weekend to win the MIAC.

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on October 27, 2025, 06:29:55 PM

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Quote from: hazzben on October 27, 2025, 01:18:27 PM... if JHU, Carnegie Mellon, Wash U, et al can put very competitive teams on the field at both the conference and national level, there's no reason Carleton can't get there.

All three of those schools are much, much larger than Carleton. The NESCAC schools are probably a better comparison -- we just don't have the picture on how they stack up nationally as of right now.

It's funny, I literally deleted a comment about NESCAC comparison. Totally agree we can't tell how they compare. But to push back, "size of school" is something we say all the time doesn't matter for the WIAC. I suppose if you're academically "elite" you can lower your dial a bit more if you have a larger student body, compared to an enrollment of 2k. But then you'd have to prove to me JHU and Wash U are really lowering the bar, as opposed to just being better at marketing themselves to good HS talent that meets the standard.

This is an important point. Even when I was in high school many, many years ago I had heard of Washington University (Johns Hopkins was only five miles away, so obviously ...) but I had never heard of Carleton until I joined these boards. It really helps to be a national brand.

There's a big difference between the large research universities that are D3 (MIT, Johns Hopkins, Wash U, Carnegie Mellon, U Chicago, etc.) and the liberal arts colleges (Carleton, NESCAC, Pomona, Grinnell, etc.) in terms of brand recognition. Carleton should be able to use academics as a recruiting advantage, but I'm not sure the ceiling is as high as what Johns Hopkins has shown.

Quote from: Bofadeeznuts on October 10, 2025, 02:21:16 PMThe kids of the past in D3 would be making 6 figures today?!? Good lord.

There is a D3 kid starting for the Badgers right now that is making 6 figures.

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Quote from: sjujohnnie on October 07, 2025, 11:06:10 AMListening to the ATN podcast, I found it interesting that a condition Macalester had when rejoining the MIAC was that they would not regularly face St John's in football. I looked at the series history and the two teams last played on October 2001 back when I was still in college. Macalaster's last win in the series came in 1968. Does St John's shutout Macalester for their fourth shutout of the season? Looking at stats for all levels of college football, St John's is leading all levels in scoring defense despite the points Bethel scored in Saturday's loss.

Schools like Mac need to decide if their going to actually support a football program. My bet is they drop the program within 5 years.

I could see them leaving the MIAC all together - didn't their football team actually have decent success in their other conference?

They made the playoffs in 2014 when they were in the MWC, despite losing to Hamline that year

All I know is what I've been seeing reported through the media, but this is one of the most impressive things I've seen on the football field.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/news/jack-curtis-carleton-college-quarterback-cancer/

Quote from: DuffMan on September 08, 2025, 09:19:01 AMCarelton got MonkeyStomped, but honestly, it was better than I expected.

I was able to attend the game and it was better than I expected as well.  Carleton defense made the Warhawks work for it in the first half (scoring drives of 10 plays, 14 plays and 15 plays), but just got worn down in the second half.  UWW didn't put much effort into the passing game and were clearly the better team, but Carleton played hard and had some flashes.  Announced attendance was 11,610 and Perkins stadium was really nice, I'm hoping the game next year is back there again rather than a home and home.

I'm expecting Carleton will be able to play with everyone in the MIAC that isn't Bethel or SJU after this game.

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Quote from: hazzben on May 14, 2025, 02:37:01 PMSounds like the MIAC Championship game might still be on the chopping block. Mtgs ongoing but a lot of coaches want to get rid of the rematch games and just play a real round robin.

As in - it might be cut this year still?

So all 9 MIAC teams would be scrambling to find a 10th game? That sounds very MIAC-like.

They wouldn't need to find a game, they'd all play each other.  SJU would play St. Olaf week 11, since those two aren't currently scheduled to play.  Carleton would play Concordia, etc.

I'm interested to see if APU can keep their track talent, they have the opportunity to be an absolute D3 powerhouse there.  Their school records would be top-3 D3 marks all-time in most events and they would've had the leading marks nationally in at least 4 events last year.

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Quote from: Johnnie on December 04, 2024, 02:14:33 PMSpeaking of Susquehanna, is there any discussion about this being is the first time a famous Amos Alonso Stagg team is playing against the famous John Gagliardi team? Two of the most famous football coaches in the history of football and finally their teams are meeting up?

Not the first meeting if you look at all the teams they coached.  Carroll University has played the University of Chicago in basketball.

I don't see any record of University of Chicago playing Carroll (Mont.).

Bah, mixing up my Carroll's

Quote from: Johnnie on December 04, 2024, 02:14:33 PMSpeaking of Susquehanna, is there any discussion about this being is the first time a famous Amos Alonso Stagg team is playing against the famous John Gagliardi team? Two of the most famous football coaches in the history of football and finally their teams are meeting up?

Not the first meeting if you look at all the teams they coached.  Carroll University has played the University of Chicago in basketball.

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on September 18, 2024, 03:21:24 PM

Quote from: DuffMan on September 18, 2024, 02:32:01 PMThere's a good article on SJU's Will Blakey (or Blakely, if you prefer  ) on the front page, for those of you that don't frequent it.

The old man in the backfield

That is a cool article.  Has to be a pretty big asset to have a guy with that maturity and service background, on the roster.  There can't be all that many D3 players with a wife and child watching them on the sideline! 

Outside of Arden Hills

Quote from: BiggieSmalls on August 08, 2024, 05:07:15 PMD3Football.com 2024 Preseason All American List is out

https://www.d3football.com/awards/all-americans/2024-preseason

Bethel with 1st team safety and 2nd team CB
Gustavus with 2nd team WR and 3rd team LB
Carleton with 1st team TE

Concordia-Moorhead with a 3rd team DT

Quote from: carletonknights on July 31, 2024, 08:38:50 PMI think after the fall Carleton was projected to bring back 21/22 starters - or was that the stat last year?

Either way, that's no longer the case as their All-American Obono entered the transfer portal. Not sure where he ended up.

He's still listed on the roster and the football Twitter feed posted something about his internship ~10 days ago.  I think he might have not found what he was looking for at the D1 level.