I am excited to see what St. Francis looks like as a D3 school.  You would assume the first year or two, they are strong and are amongst the top 3/4 teams. The question is how do they look year 3 and beyond. 

When are they eligible for D3 playoffs? 

The PAC needs them to be a tough team competing for the conference title, this conference cannot take another bottom dweller.

Quote from: WashJeff68 on December 07, 2025, 07:52:38 AMW&J loses a lot from this year's team,  but they don't normally need to rebuild, just re load. We will see. Clearly QB and wide receivers are ones who will be missed.

I know one of the freshman QBs played at my old high school so I saw him a few times. Either he is W&Js starter and he is really good, or someone was good enough to beat him out.  Your QB situation should be fine as long as they stay healthy.

Who do we expect to be the teams in the PAC next year? 

GCC losing some high end talent do to graduation.   I can see them taking a step back.

I also see Westminster raising the bar.

2 games against the HCAC this week. 

What do we know about Hanover and Mount St Joseph?

W&J certainly has a tough one this week with Susquehanna.

2 teams are in the playoffs.  Hopefully they both can win a few games.

Good luck GCC and W&J

Quote from: ADL70 on August 28, 2025, 06:07:44 PMWhat are CWRU and Westminster doing that you like, Mikefln?

BTW there's only one "n" in Sewanee  and these are boards not boreds

Thanks four the garmaikal n speling irror chack! 

Quote from: ADL70 on August 25, 2025, 09:59:55 PM0-0 this week the d3 season starts Sept 4-6

Quote from: wally_wabash on August 26, 2025, 05:46:01 PMFalse starts are common at this time of the season! That'll get cleaned up. 

It happens. Just trying to get some conversations going here.  This board needs to liven up.  The season is around the corner and GCC is playing about as epic of an OCC as one can get. 

W&J will be pushing GCC hard for the top spot.  I like what Case and Westminster are doing and wouldn't be surprised if either ended up on top.   

I can't wait to see who from the others start to separate themselves from the rest to be a mid pack team. 

The PAC is looking strong this year, but the discussion on this bored is the pits.

This weeks Predictions:(HOME team in caps)

WESTMINSTER over Marietta
HEIDELBERG over Hiram
Concordia over THEIL
W&J over Utica
BETHANY over Sewannee
WIDENER over Geneva
Case Western over ROWAN
John Carroll over WAYNESBURG
ST VINCENT over Hilbert
Denison over ALLEGHENY

Game of the Week:
CORTLAND over Grove City in a close one.  If GCC was home, I would of gave the nod.


So I see the PAC going 5-6 this week. 

Didn't see anyone talk about the YouTube account called Division 1 Rejects.  I think he played D3 in Michigan (I could be wrong), but his content is 100% D2, D3, and NAIA. I found him roughly a month ago,  I do not know when he started the channel or what his content is like during the season. 

It is nice to see another outlet that discuss D3 ball, even if it's not exclusively D3. I follow D2 PSAC also so I only skip over NAIA content.

He has showed the PAC some love in the past.  Here he is showing love to the GCC defense.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T5KW-shGApI

Quote from: ADL70 on July 22, 2025, 10:12:50 AMHas Geneva been held back by continuing to run the triple-option? I recall a time when most of the WPIAL ran that offense. That no longer seems to be the case. Of course nationally, Springfield and Salisbury have still been quite successful with that offense.

The bottom of the PAC moves up one spot with the addition of Hiram, lowest NPI in D3. Will St Francis successfully transition to D3 and fill the void at the top left by CMU's departure?

I don't think the offense has held them back.  Look at D1, Army dominates similarly talented teams as them.  They put up good fight against superior talented teams, even in defeat.  I think Geneva issue is of their own doing, and I hope to leave it at that.

Quote from: HCAlum86 on August 13, 2025, 10:06:11 AM

Quote from: mikefln on August 10, 2025, 02:43:28 PMHow I see it going into the season.

Heading into the season this is how I see it.

Top of the class:
Grove City
W&J

Contender:
Case Western
Westminster

Dark Horses:
Geneva- can they send Demarco off on a high note.

Pretender:
Waynesburg

Hoping to see important:

Allegheny
Bethany
Hiram
St. Vincent
Theil

Hiram returns a LOT of its production from last season. However, given that production was typically low - I'm not sure yet if that's a good or bad thing.

Thanks for the input.  Don't take my take personally.   I don't know much about Hiram other than their record from last season.  Plus im just a dude on the internet, I have no connections or inside info.

How I see it going into the season.

Heading into the season this is how I see it.

Top of the class:
Grove City
W&J

Contender:
Case Western
Westminster

Dark Horses:
Geneva- can they send Demarco off on a high note.

Pretender:
Waynesburg

Hoping to see important:

Allegheny
Bethany
Hiram
St. Vincent
Theil

Just noticed that Demarco is retiring from Geneva after the season.  Good for him and the school.   He deserved to go out on his own terms, and that program is in desperate need of new blood.

That program is one of the most supported D3 programs around, and they have done nothing but struggled.   There is no reason why they shouldn't be competing for the conference championship  on a regular basis.

The PAC needs someone to step up and be competitive to fill in for CMUs departure.   Plus the bottom of the conference needs to step up to at least get respectable.

So what do we expect from St Francis?  Are thinking they are dropping down to compete for championships or just dropping down to save cost and whatever happens,  happens?

Well, it didn't go how I'd liked it to have gone, but the PAC has nothing to be ashamed of. 

CMU- Handled business with a win.  Good luck to them the rest of the way.  I'll be rooting for you eventhough you'll be leaving the PAC

GCC- Had too slow of a start.   Can't win against good teams, especially away, when you surrender the 1st half.  They still had their chance, and was a missed FG away from taking the game into OT. 

W&J- I tried to watch it, but that was a horrible video production, so I didn't watch this one.  Judging by the score box, they started strong, faded away, then tried to make a late rally but ran out of time. 

Looking to next year, it sucks to loose a great team like CMU and it is worse that they are being replaced by a winless team.  That leaves 2 top dogs in GCC and W&J, 2 teams trying to reach top tier in CWRU and Westminster. 

Then there is the albatross of the PAC, which is the bottom group.  I will say there are 2 groups in the bottom group.  Programs with a pulse, and teams without a pulse.  I guess it's nice every team got a win this year, but these teams need to step up their game.  To make it worse, the PAC is bringing a winless team into the fold.  I know there is more to conference affiliation than just football, but damn does this hurt.  How does the NCAC get John Carroll and we get Hiram?