Remember Me? Haha.

Was at the game. As others stated much closer than the final score.

I mean this in no bad way because I'll be the first to say I did little to no scouting on CMS but...

It was a coaches duel. Tonight Chapman were the better coached squad.

Quote from: oldchap on November 21, 2009, 10:43:06 AM
Chapman takes down No. 14 Cal Lutheran in home-opener by a score of 80-74. Here is where you can get a summary of the game:

Chapman site:
http://www.chapmanathletics.com/sports/mbkb/2009-10/news/1120

CLU site:
http://www.clusports.com/mens_basketball/news/6006/

Chapman's crowd was brutal on Friday night. I was at the game. They were in Gregg Grimm's head. He was caught yelling back at the crowd 4 to 5 times. At the NCAA level you have to have the ability to mentally zone out the crowd, no matter how intimate the setting.

The stats may not show it, but he had some crucial mess ups.

As for my opinion on CU BBall. Don't worry I won't be making any posts on www.funkfootball.blogspot.com telling Coach Bokosky. He knows what he's doing.

Kyle Wood is real good too.

Stats can be deceiving... the results are in the scoreboard and the results.

Also, you talk about Chapman losing starters... did you bother to research how many graduated vs how many quit?

If a total of 5 starters quit, does that reflect Owens, the program, or the player? Usually it's all three. Obviously Owens' coaching had a lot to do with it though.

Once again, I'm not saying to fire him; sure he was a capable head coach; but different players respond to different coaching techniques. There's a very good chance that the demographic that makes up the Chapman football team doesn't respect Owens the way he was respected 15 years ago... note that was 15 years ago. Owens is 15 YEARS Older. Look at the trends in both College and Pro Football: the coaches are getting younger because the players can buy in easier. The coach can still relate.

You can use numbers and record to defends Owens; but as the article points out the team is winning games by small margins that shouldn't be won by small margins.

Before you guys slam the concept come check out the game this Saturday! In the very least it's worth it to check out Redlands who are a very good team. If you don't see Owens coaching a talented team under performing than I'll swallow my tongue. If you don't think that a roster of 8 qb's has to have someone better than the current starter, then I'll swallow my tongue. Rouch has worked his way up to #2 on the depth chart right now and he's getting more reps in practice everyday.

Finally, calling cheering for players to start "unclassy" is a joke. Welcome to the world of sporting events. Just because the Chapman Panthers aren't the Tennessee Volunteers doesn't mean their fans can't react as passionately. If anything, the Panther fans have the right to cheer more passionately given how invested they are in the program through their everyday life.

That's part of what makes D-3 great isn't it? At least it is to me.

And if other players parents are in the crowd; oh well. I didn't realize that I was supposed to treat a College Football Game like a frigging Broadway musical, but I guess that's why Chapman spent 30+ million on their new stadium; so I can sit silently and respect players mothers.

But please, really, come to the game Saturday. You'll see for yourself that this is a program that has done nothing to evolve. Owens was a winner in the mid 1990's.

As for the endowment mistake... I mistakenly looked up Pitzer College's endowment. I concede that you're correct.... Pomona has a very nice endowment. As does Occidental.

Quote from: Gray Fox on November 05, 2009, 06:54:28 PM
The Whittier "fans" were saying the same kinds of things about their coach until they had a solid win against Chapman.

I saw Chapman play against Oxy.  The QB looked like a SCIAC starter to me.

It's a different QB now.

Also, players on the team have confirmed that Rouch's "year off" to pursue academic endeavors in the reason that Coach Owens has refused to put him in. Those words have come out of Owens' mouth.

I guess it's a message he's trying to send to his team, and as the head coach he has every right to do such a thing. The question becomes is he cutting of his nose?

Quote from: OxyBob on November 05, 2009, 05:17:09 PM

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Quote from: FunkFootball on November 05, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
The school is bigger than the other SCIAC schools

This isn't high school....

From what Martin Scorsese, Jr. said about the incredible QB abilities of his pal, I figured that Rouch must have played some since he was at Chapman. I looked at the Chapman web site and checked the Panthers' statistics archives. 2007: No Rouch, 2008: No Rouch, 2009: No Rouch. I don't see any evidence that Rouch has been in a single game while he's been at Chapman.

Quote from: FunkFootball on November 05, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
The school is bigger than the other SCIAC schools and also has a bigger endowment.

Wrong. Pomona, Claremont and Oxy all have bigger endowments than Chapman, so stick it back in your pants.

OxyBob

Chapman's endowment is over 100 million bigger than Pomona's. So I guess I'll keep it out of my pants?

Also, Chapman recently built a 30 million dollar sports complex recently. Though it's not the most impressive in the conf. it still should warrant better than what it has produced.

Rouch didn't play from 06-08 because QB Eric Marty was actually a really good quarterback in that time span. The article mentions that; it also mentions the current state of the QB situation at Chapman. Compare Marty's numbers from last year to the numbers produced thus far; then note that all of the top receivers from last year are back this year.

The issue is obviously QB.

Finally, Bob Owens may have had success in the mid to late 1990's, but those were the mid to late 1990's. Notice that every other athletic program at Chapman has developed positively during the schools boom in attendance and financial growth this decade; besides football. Basketball, Lacrosse, and Baseball have all made significant improvement.

I'm not saying Owens is doing a bad job, I'm not saying he needs to get fired. I'm just saying they need to make a change at QB, and their current QB 2 needs to see playing time. He's been getting reps in practice, so it's not like this is some idiot frat guys trying to get their friend some playing time for fun. It's real Chapman fans trying to get the right QB in to win.

Let's try and keep it classy guys and not poke attacks at me for trying to share some relevant information about a team. If you don't believe there is real outcry for this position then come to the game this Saturday. I'll even personally greet you. You can see the awful QB play, and the "we want Rouch" chants for yourself.

Thanks guys.

Quote from: OxyBob on November 05, 2009, 03:41:34 PM

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Quote from: FunkFootball on November 05, 2009, 02:25:06 PM
#9 Redlands @ unranked Chapman this weekend. There's a pretty interesting article about the quarterback situation in the game. check it out.

The unintentional comedy is off the charts in this post. Enjoy the pasting this Saturday Chapman fans as the Redlands train is full-speed ahead.

Alex Rouch can be seen as the character "Heath" in this video, which was written and directed by the poster and blogger Jason Michael Brescia aka FunkFootball:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=52854780

Move over, Citizen Kane.

OxyBob

Yeah, the article is tongue and cheek, but Rouch is undeniably the Panthers most talented QB. Truth be told 95% of that article is more accurate that bias.

The Panthers are far from an elite program, but they do have talent. The school is bigger than the other SCIAC schools and also has a bigger endowment. Part of the reason why Chapman never wins is because of it's coach Bob Owens.

This past year many of the teams elite players quit, not to mention their QB issues have been awful.

Rouch should be starting. He's 6'3 with a big arm. The kid they have starting now is under 6 foot with an ok arm, poor vision, and an FB build.

http://funkfootball.blogspot.com/2009/11/ncaa-division-iii-highlight-future-is.html

#9 Redlands @ unranked Chapman this weekend. There's a pretty interesting article about the quarterback situation in the game. check it out.