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#1
Quote from: Marty Peretz on February 14, 2010, 04:38:42 PM
Just back from NYU and a great afternoon of D3 basketball. Today's atmosphere was excellent...if you were one of the literally hundreds of Wash.U fans. Bear friends, family, and LOTS of alumni turned Coles Gym into a legitimate home court advantage for WUSTL, a fact that really shouldn't be understated. Sundays on the road in the UAA are notoriously difficult to get up for if you're the visitor and the chants of "Wash.U home game" and other WU revelry gave the team at least a slight lift today.

As for the game itself...The final score was reasonably close (I believe 8 or 10 points) but after Wash.U's huge run to open the second half, you knew the game was never in doubt. NYU sucks the life out of each and every one of their offensive possessions, regularly taking 25 or 30 seconds off the shot clock and though that strategy keeps them from getting blown out, it also ensures that the chances of a comeback (at least against a team with a terrific transition offense like Wash.U) are highly unlikely. Wash.U. took NYU out of its slow-down offense for the first four of five minutes of the second half and after that, it was clear to anyone watching that the game's ultimate outcome was never really in doubt. In under three minutes, the Bears went on a 13-3 run and with 13 and change to go, Wash.U. led by a comfortable 15. In the first 10:30 of the second half, the Bears put up 30 points. AT hit four 3's in that stretch and the game was over.

DJ Glavin (spelling?) helped NYU in the second half, but Nesci seemed reluctant to push the tempo and almost more content with taking an 8 or 10 point loss than with taking the risk of getting into a run game and trying to make a dent in the lead. On some level, you can't blame him. Who wants to get into a run game against a team that loves nothing more than to push tempo and that has a pair of all Americans in its backcourt? On another level, though, you have to question the tactic. NYU NEEDED a win if it wanted to stay in the Pool C hunt and they have a steady point guard manning the ship. Why not at least try and cut the lead? I don't think anyone in that building really believed NYU had a chance even when they got the lead to 6 with seven plus minutes to play. The Violets continued to slow the tempo and scored nine points for the duration of the game. Nine. And it wasn't as if Wash.U.'s defense was legendarily exceptional. Certainly, the Bears got rebounds and made stops, but by and large, NYU's lack of scoring stemmed from a stagnant offense that would move the ball around and burn clock before attempting shots from 15 or 20 feet out. Just not sure what they were trying to do.

As for Wash.U.: always nice to get an 8 point win against a quality league opponent on the road on Sunday. The Bears played very well today and continue to play their best basketball at the most opportune of times. With AT back at MVP-type form, it's going to be very difficult for teams to defend Wash.U. come tournament time. You can try to zone them, but with AT stroking again, you'll get the same result as NYU did today. You can try to play man, but their offensive sets are so fluid after four years of running them with this core group of guys that it's very difficult to limit their offense. You can try, as Emory did, to run a triangle and 2 on AT and Wallis, but this may prove to be the least effective of all (as Emory found out). Sean and AT had their worst offensive performances of the season and yet Wash.U put together arguably its most dominating performance of the year.

I think people forget how effective a scorer Spencer Gay has become. When Emory triangle and 2'd the Bears, Gay went 7 for 8 and finished with 18 points. Today, he put up 16 on 7 of 9. A triangle and two opens up the passing lanes and enables him to get easy buckets. And lest we forget, the Bears' X factor: Cam Smith. People have overlooked him his whole career because he's always been a 3rd or even fourth offensive option. Triangle and 2 the Bears and Cam hits five 3's. This is a guy who can flat out score and has always produced when necessary, but simply hasn't really had to.

Looking forward to seeing how things shape up. The way to beat the Bears will be to  hope that their big guns are simply not hitting. A superior post player will also give the Wash.U bigs real trouble. The UAA is down this year, so Wash.U. has not had to deal with the issue of a dominant post man (save Hollins on Deis, who did give Wash.U trouble) and that is my primary concern come tournament time. Otherwise, I'm beginning to feel pretty confident, certainly much better than I was 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Wash U. definitely did have a home court advantage this afternoon--not only did the Bears fans come out in large numbers, but they were also loud.

As for NYU's offensive strategy, that issue comes up a lot with this team. It can be frustrating to watch the Violets burn clock when they're behind, but I still think it's an exaggeration to say that everyone in the gym knew they didn't have a chance. They were a stop and a score away from making it a one-possession game with about seven minutes left, and they weren't able to get it done. For much of the season their incredibly slow offense has been effective enough to get wins. I think what was worse about their offense today than its pace was the fact that it didn't result in good shots.

Wash U. was by far the best team I've seen visit NYU this season. Anytime NYU threatened to make a run, the Bears answered. Their offense was crisp, and even if their defense wasn't perfect, I certainly thought they did a great job making sure that NYU didn't have any easy shots.
#2
It was nice to see NYU escape with the win on Friday night. Another UAA question, though--is there anyone who has seen Emory play week in and week out? How have they managed such a turnaround this season, and did anyone see it coming?
#3
Quote from: WUH on January 24, 2010, 03:01:35 PM
It looks like Emory knocked off No. 15 Brandeis 77-64 and New York University beat Rochester 78-75.  Anyone care to comment?

NYU hit threes when they had to, passed well (they racked up plenty of assists), and got the ball inside frequently. They've won most games this season when they've managed to do that, and this was no exception. Keith Jensen sat out the first half because of his technical foul in Friday's loss to Emory.
#4
Quote from: bobcat10 on January 23, 2010, 03:20:58 PM
Here are my two cents:

Wash is simply not as good as they have been in the past. Wallis will still do what he does but as long as AT struggles to hit three after three, Wash will be exposed this year.

Brandeis is going to be up and down all year but they have the talent to be a good team.

Chicago can play and will be similar to the same team as last year.

Emory is still Emory. Not as talented or gifted but they will beat you if youre team isn't upto the challenge (ala NYU last night).

Havent seen CWRU, Rochester or CMU yet.

As to my Violets, all I can say is that last night's game was terrible. Basic basketball fundementals were simply ignored. If your starting backcourt is 6 Foot 5 in., 6 foot 7 in., and 6 foot 9 in. with Richie Polan coming off the bench at 6 foot 7 in. you do not lose to Anthony Fernandez at 6 foot 3 in. and a Freshman who would be the 13th man on your team. Also if your opponent is a shooting team and all they have shown all game is deep range, you do not go into a 2-3 zone. And when you're in a man to man defense you do not have your junior captain who's coming off an ankle injury guard the best shooter on the other team. Why? Because after 3 passes and 3 screens he's going to eventually struggle keeping up which may or may not lead 2 consecutive 3's and a dramatic shift in the lead. Another thing I didn't understand was why the second most active defender on NYU, Lawrence Borsi, was not played more yesterday. It is evident that when/if the team plays defense, the team wins. So when Borsi who usually struggles to stay on the court due to fouls, is playing great defense, is not in foul trouble AND has 10 points at halftime, you probably should ride the hot hand.

@Gratuitous Violets you said that the team is not executing Coach Nesci's gameplan correctly and that's why they are losing... If you have EVER played basketball, coached basketball, are relatively familiar with how the game is played you would see that this problem is way bigger than the team not executing the Princeton Offense. Something is going on with that team, two players went after the refs leading to a technical foul during garbage time last night. That's something that doesn't happen unless 'street' teams are playing. Last time I checked the UAA had ZERO street teams in the league and we aren't watching Ron Artest play out there. Something is not right and it's a damn shame.

On a lighter and happier note, the NYU women's team surprisingly got a Win on Friday night. Hopefully the NYU men can pull it together and we can get a sweep on Sunday.

It's no big deal, but for the record my exact quote was: "I don't know enough to say whether that's an issue of coaching or execution." I wouldn't pretend to know what the issue is in the games where the team looks sloppy, as I have never coached or played organized basketball. I just enjoy watching!
#5
I will agree with you, WUH. NYU has looked great in some games this year, including against Brandeis and Wash U., and in those games they've moved the ball very well. I've also seen games where that hasn't been the case, though--in the losses to Chicago and Mount St. Vincent, it seemed to me that they could have done a lot more to get the ball inside. That said, I don't know enough to say whether that's an issue of coaching or execution. All in all, I think the team looks well-coached this season, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them sweep the next home stand. But while I could do without the negativity towards coach Nesci, it's nice to see another enthusiastic NYU fan!