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#1
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 24, 2019, 07:32:07 PM
Quote from: Teddy_Ballgame on January 24, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
Do you really think Pomona will need to win the tournament to get a bid? With only one loss overall, and a win over Whitman, I think they're set up well. They have 7 conference games left, and they won't have to play CMS again. Of course, they still have Redlands and Oxy on the road. But even if they drop those they realistically could enter the tournament at around 22-3. There weren't very many four loss teams left at home last year (from what I can tell), but then again I have very little perspective on how the SCIAC is viewed nationally in hoops. Have we had 2 bids since Oxy and Pomona my freshman year (2008)?

Edit: Looks like Chapman got in in 2010 as a 2-loss team and 2011 as a 3-loss team despite losing in the conference tournament both years.

The best place to track the potential for Pomona-Pitzer (or anybody else) to get into the tourney without winning the league's automatic bid is the Pool C board under the Multi-Regional Topics header. The resident numbers-crunchers on this site do a good job of tracking the possibilities. One of them is a math prof at the College of Wooster. He published a hypothetical ranking for each region nine days ago, and he had Pomona-Pitzer eighth in the West Region, largely because the Sagehens had a poor strength of schedule. Since P-P's SOS has improved since then with the wins over Oxy and CMS, the Sagehens might move up in his next hypothetical ranking.

Anyway, if you're really interested in seeing how P-P measures up to everybody else in terms of the selection criteria, that's the board to read.

Probably not — oxy has a notoriously terrible sos because they play non counters in non-conference.

For the record, I am not the Wooster math major.
#2
Quote from: OxyBob on November 13, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: Gosox on November 13, 2018, 11:29:34 AM
Well done...that is a good win!

Anytime a SCIAC team beats a GSAC team it's a good win. Oxy played great. 4 players in double figures. Though it was an exhibition game, Westmont HC John Moore did not look happy.

After two exhibition wins, Oxy opens its regular season at Caltech this Friday at 7:00 p.m. CIT lost an exhibition game to NAIA Vanguard 74-68 and beat progressive insane asylum Oberlin 70-68.

OxyBob

Definitely a good win for Oxy...Oberlin was a solid beat for Caltech -- Oberlin might not be the most talented team, but they are rugged and blue collar...usually good for a couple wins in a stacked NCAC -- lots of shot making on display by the beavers, defense was solid, offense a work in progress.  Maybe not Oberlin's A-game since they played La Verne the night before....Oxy will likely be more telling about how Caltech will stack up against the SCIAC this year.  One thing for sure: any injuries will be extra problematic this year for the Beavers as they only have 9 on the roster.

GoSox, what's happening with La Verne?  Couple BAD beats it looks like??
#3
Quote from: OxyBob on November 07, 2018, 01:43:26 PM
...Bethesda University, which is housed in a 2-story office building in Anaheim.

Any word on the square footage??
#4
Looks like d1 has-beens will get a shot at reliving their glory years by smashing d3 players in TBT this year.
#5
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on March 07, 2018, 01:30:49 PM
Quote from: OxyBob on March 07, 2018, 01:17:22 PM
Quote from: Gosox on March 05, 2018, 10:02:29 PM
So I indicated they'd lose in rounds 1 or 2

Let's assume you knew Whitman and Whitworth were the No. 1 and No. 2 ranked teams in D-III. You predicted Claremont would go on the road and lose to one of them. Wow, that's sure going out on a limb!

Please help me with my March Madness Final Four picks. Oh, I should pick all four No. 1 regional seeds? Great, thanks!

OxyBob

Ryan Scott actually did predict it. On Hoopsville. Said it on the Bracket Monday show that he had completed his initial tournament preview and felt CMS could get past both Whits this year.

Interesting question is if they had played neutral courts, not back to back who wins?  I think CMS gets them both.  If they play back to back on Claremont's court, I think CMS gets both.  Even on the road, not back-to-back I think CMS gets both.

Only one of those options will ever happen in the tournament -- playing at Claremont, back-to-back -- which should incentivize Claremont to lead the charge on some better scheduling in the SCIAC.
#6
Great game....agreed it is hard to win up there...maybe its worth contemplating why games are never played down here....answer is bad scheduling.

CMS (aside from being injured and losing early in the season) did themselves no favors by scheduling non counting games.  More to that point: Oxy and Chapman need to play real schedules so that the SCIAC's SOS doesn't suffer as a whole.

Granted the SCIAC fared horribly against the NWC this year so no amount of scheduling would have helped THIS YEAR, but to play games in the state of California the SCIAC has to have a favorable record against and better SOS than the NWC. 

For the sake of example: playing both Cal Miramar and West Coast Baptist 2 times is really a detriment to the SCIAC.  When you schedule that way only 5 schools in the Western Region end up with a worse SOS than your team....but hey, if you're going to out in the first round every year who cares :)

CMS SOS: .491
Whitworth SOS: .537
Whitman SOS: .525

http://web1.ncaa.org/champsel_new/exec/pdf/staticpdfrank

#7
Congrats to CMS on a big win in the North West.

Now comes the problem of back-to-back games...

CMS played 3 starters 38+ minutes.

The minutes played for the top 3 Whitman starters -- 27, 26 and 24.

Whitman went 10 deep and (if you take out the guys who played 2 minutes or less) CMS goes 7 deep.

I would expect given the high pace that Whitman likes to play with and that they have managed that pace through back-to-backs all season (SCIAC doesn't play back-to-backs) that they have a leg up tonight.

But this is why we play the games!
#8
CMS goes down to Santa Cruz -- of course, the story has to be that CMS not only didn't start any of their normal starters (Lynds, President, Ely, Scarlett, Morris) -- they didn't play them at all......and they didn't play them at all after a night where they won a game with pretty good looking stats. 

Claremont's story has to be the surprise of the season so far: after starting the year ranked #15, with an injured all-american who came back and then got benched??, and are now 2-6 overall.

One other SCIAC thought -- I don't understand the conference schedule -- some teams have played 2 conference games already, but Caltech has played zero?....how did that happen?

#9
The glaring stat for me for Wooster to start the season: 

3 pt%: 30.2%

In their two losses: 16% and 16.7% respectively.
#11
And the SCIAC finally gets a couple non-conference NCAA wins.........against a school that up until last year was an all women's college.

.........buckle up -- this could be a long season...
#12
Also -- Michael Scarlett is on the roster, was a pre-season all American (3rd team), but didnt play in Wisconsin -- is he hurt or something?
#13
Not a good first week for SCIAC basketball

CMS dropped two in Wisconsin to White Water and Platteville
Whitworth beat La Verne
Linfield dropped Whittier and Pomona Pitzer w/ upcoming games against La Verne and Caltech
Pacific and Puget Sound dropped Redlands

.....the SCIAC has yet to win a non-conference NCAA game outside of UC Santa Cruz...here's hoping week 2 goes better.
#14
Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 16, 2017, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: WoostAr on February 16, 2017, 01:04:46 PM
3 regionally ranked SCIAC teams for the first time in....ever???....

Perhaps a shot at more than one SCIAC team in the national tourney!

Sadly, no. There is a very, very, very outside chance CMS could get an at-large bid meaning a second team... however, with their SOS currently below .500 the chances are pretty darn slim. I think the bubble line in the West Region is between 3rd and 4th right now leaving the SCIAC as a win-or-go-home league. Sure, it could happen, but I think the chances are so small it isn't worth hoping for it.

Annnnd CMS promptly loses to top it all off.
#15
3 regionally ranked SCIAC teams for the first time in....ever???....

Perhaps a shot at more than one SCIAC team in the national tourney!