Thanks RB...post on Whittier

Notice the list of players, just one O-linemen, and 5 Qb's. Coach White can be the greatest coach but no big boys, no run game...they will struggle. The best running team will win the SCIAC again. I wonder if coach White is going to do a Mike Maynard and convert the QB's to other positions, since most QB's today are great athletes. UR has a former QB that will be a really good safety this season. I expect good things from him.

Good luck coach White.

That Guy

I think these camps still are a source of income, not like a D3 coach are not starving. Plus its really good exposure for UR with So Cal kids. Amazing how much it has grown.

I think the new OC will help UR, I think you will see a deeper play calling list and game plans should improve.
All that said it comes down to Jimmy's and Joe's, and not trying to be a downer, but the O linemen issue will always an issue in the SCIAC...best O line wins league...

I have heard the same, if APU wanted in the SCIAC...they need to play football. I can't verify if true.
Obviously admin's commitment is key for any school, but APU has some real potential given its size, enrollment criteria, location, and facilities/programs.

Glad the league will be back to 8 teams, help keep travel cost down overall.

Many AP former athletes at APU are not happy about this hire. There were past APU alums that are coaching that got passed up. APU has a history of producing coaches. Its crazy to me, I had a conversation with the APU president 11 years ago and they were contemplating going D1, hence the Felix Center etc.

Hazzben, they should have hired someone that knows So Cal, that is where over 50% of his players will come from and recruiting Oregon, Washington and Arizona kids are ones mainly looking to get out to the weather, aka UR's move. I am not saying the guy can't coach, but it may take a year or two more to get where he wants to be. Lastly when you crap on Alum's and the core, you run the risk of financial support...hence UR, ask Jeff Martinez.

Good Man, always liked coach Owens. Sad to see him leave, given the timing (right after spring ball and recruiting) I hope his health is well.

Spring Ball in D3 is boring, I did hear you can wear shoulder pads and helmets for spring ball, I don't know the  restrictions, but if JC football in CA can wear full pads in spring, D3 should push for it just from a perception to recruits.

https://goodyearwranglers.com/junior-college-path

Just found this team interesting, when Arizona decided to eliminate JC football, this private team was formed.
The came to the southland and played JV games against UR and LV (got boat raced by both) A few UR kids from the JV game got more varsity reps due to their performance. I wish the SCIAC had a true JV league.

Its spring ball for UR, I think D3 should have the option to go full pads, sure limit hitting, hours etc if you want but hitting trash cans is stupid. Let each league vote on it, players would get so much more out of it. It would only help D3 ball, shorten it to 5 days in shorts and 10 days in pads...Basketball, baseball, etc can do what they want to do but FB is limited.  Imagine if water polo could not go in the water in their off season. I need some DEI football too. 

UR, fund raising....If UR Football wants to really get back on track raising money from FB Alumni they need to rectify many issues. Jeff Martinez was not the guy to do it. I do not know who is it but... from Maynard to the direction of the school is heading is on the table (needs from the old head alumni. The school leadership is affecting fund raising. The best term I can use (sorry Pat) ...too liberal,...Of course as we are witnessing in society today, the last thing they will do is admit they are wrong or change their approach. See CA deficit ...City of LA 1b deficit, SF and Oakland too.

I guess Whittier figured out with declining enrollment, they could add another 100 males pretty easily.

JC stadiums in CA are very expensive to rent out, I know some cost 10k a game, by the time you pay the rental fees and for staff and security....many of the public HS avoid playing high attendance games at JCs now.

I hope you all are correct Citrus College is a nice venue, but ...its the SCIAC

APU

1) Going to make recruiting for LV, Whit, UR and CU more competitive ...UR has done well up and down the 10 and 210 fwy.
2) I wonder if APU will play FB on campus or at Citrus College? On campus facility needs to modifications since it was solely used for track with a discus platform in the east end zone and other mods needed
3) Felix Center, holds 4500 for BB, what a waste now that they are not going D1.
4) 10 teams in other sports really helps keep travel cost down for the minor sports too...Baseball wont have to leave and go out of town, given how many snow bird teams want to play in So Cal. One could have 20+ homes games if desired.

I have known AP coaches over the years, back in the early 2000's there was a ton of talk of taking all athletics to D1 and FB playing 1-AA, Pioneer league with others in the West Coast Conf, hence why their other facilities have greater capacity than SCIAC schools. How times have changed, I am guessing funding is an issue at most private schools. Would be nice to have even numbers in the league. 

Thank you TuftSit......take care

TuffSit,

Thanks for your take...

What was said during the game to generate that reaction from the U of R players ?

Nice post

Long time Redlands fan...

1) The school will address the players behavior (AD Jeff Martinez wont stand for it) , I do not condone it but no died so quit being a "B" about it ..take the L, maybe work on press break over complaining
2) The SCIAC does not allow any taunting of players, the SCIAC is very strict about fan issues. So I am sure what the UR players heard was at a level they are not used too. Your school has a bad rep btw, players were warned. So much for that issue.
3) A 5:15 gave the students a long time to warm up for the game, I am sure they were not angels. I doubt the UR players had time to start taunting them, when they are down most of the game. So take some responsibility. 
4) Quit whining about the Refs, they called a game that favored Tuft (which I like how they let it go I hate ticky tack calls) ...a lot of contact on your posts and over the back that are fouls in the SCIAC, I wish all games were called like this one. I did not see any players whine..UR was in better shape and out played/hustle Tuft, UR athletes were superior, UR finally hit some shots and took the win after traveling 2500 miles to your place.