Ithaca had only two losses when the tourney started (versus SLU's 6).  And oh yeah, they beat SLU in Canton.

Middlebury had only 3 losses and at one point railed off 17 straight.


What, exactly, do you want the guys who vote in the poll to do? 

What the hell is the matter with you guys?  I know most kids who attend St. Lawrence have a screwed up sense of entitlement anyway, but geez.


/joke

Congrats to the Tigers.  It's been quite a couple of weeks for them.  Most of the folks on the board had given them little chance of winning the tournament (reasonably, in my view) after the way they had played the last couple of weeks.  An impressive weekend.

Congrats to Coach McVean on win #400 at RIT, getting the Tigers to right the ship after a bad couple of weeks. 

Of course, if you believe UCGrad's completely unbiased play-by-play, the Tigers didn't even earn it  :-)

I really hope you guys get onto a fourth page of discussion of that technical.  That would truly be something.

Hey Bombers --

While I'd be fine with the award going to Burton (he certainly deserves it), I think it's a mistake to think his performance tonight was the nail in the coffin (unless you are asserting that Ithaca's clinching of the regular season championship is the deal sealer).

Carson and Burton have been equally impressive individually this year, I think it would be fruitless to argue for either through their statistical strengths.  Burton plays on a better team that eventually took control of the conference, and that's a good enough reason to give him the award. 

But by individual performance, they were equals.

Quote from: Bombers798891 on February 18, 2009, 04:49:22 PM
New regional rankings...fisher checks in at 5...replacing RIT

The regional rankings are determined a certain way and that's fine.  Obviously Fisher's inclusion is rather stunning.

In my opinion, Geneseo's surge is explained by them finally playing to their ability (as opposed to dominating a weakened SUNYAC).  They are dangerous, and will be definitely be in my fan Top 5.

Quote from: FisherDynasty on February 18, 2009, 10:34:02 AM
Are you still bitter that fisher handled rit the 2nd time around with freshmen and sophmores?

I considered using the "roll your eyes" emoticon here, but the googly eyes thing is sort of creepy so I'm staying away.

Anyway.  Look, Fisher was never one of the top 25 teams in the country.  I think we all understand how polls work and the reasons they ended up in this one, but that doesn't invalidate my point. 

Yes, I think they would get beat comfortably by Ithaca in the conference tournament at this point.  The Bombers are A LOT better than them and they'll be fired up to host the tournament.  And the Cardinals can't be full of confidence at this particular point, either.

Does the Chase count in H2H matchups?

Sadly* , no.

On Carson's game, holy freaking crap.  That is stunning.

To Fisher's collapse, well, when things were going well I said:

Take a deep breath, Fisher guys.  This is the same team that followed up a 36 point game against RIT with a 48 point win at Utica.

UR lost Chmielowiec in that game, and it's sort of a big deal when you consider he had scored 11 points in the 11 minutes he played (on top of UR leading when he got injured).

Be happy about the Chase win and where the young team is at, no doubt.  But hold off on the "Top 25" talk.

Fisher strung a few wins together, but they weren't ever really a Top 25 caliber team. 

Since Naz is involved, no one should count their chickens.  But even if the Cards sneak in it will only be to get pounded by the Bombers in the first game. 

*not really

Quote from: buck1053 on February 11, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Wouldn't it a more logical conclusion to say that Fisher's win shows how bad the E8 is this year?

buck, I thought you were doing real well right up to this sentence.

Bombers, I think, gives a pretty fair assessment of RIT.  Their young players are a nice surprise and the team can certainly beat anyone in the region, but 11-0 in conference was probably a bit overperforming.

To try and use last night's game as an explanation for an entire season doesn't work no matter who or what you're talking about.

Take a shot with "that gym has been a house of horrors for the Tigers over the years" and you'd be getting somewhere. 

Quote from: Ethelred the Unready on February 11, 2009, 11:10:48 AM

I watched Chicago a couple of weeks ago and thought they were the most dangerous 1-15 team I had seen.  Since then they have played much better.   As I watched them I tried to compare them to local teams I have seen.  Other than Ithaca, I don't think many teams in this region would compete with Chicago.  When they're shooting well, as against Brandeis when they went 17-26 from behind the arc, they are tough.  And they are getting their confidence back.  Not saying they are a great team.  Just dangerous.

I know they played UR tough, but this is still a 4-16 team.  Their only road win is at NYU.  They started the season off terribly, losing to some very good but also some pretty bad teams. 

And since someone mentioned that two of NYU's four straight losses are to WashU, it's only fair to point out the other two are Chicago.  NYU really doesn't belong in the poll anymore, even if you argue their record would be better playing in one of the East Region leagues.

Quote from: with age came? on February 11, 2009, 03:01:02 AM
Of course probably every team from Hamilton down to all the also rans might be 2-7 in that league too!!  And 2 of the last four losses are to Wash U which probably would put a loss on every team in our poll (and in my opinion that includes Ithaca too). Please don't smite me oh lord!!!!

Don't worry, no smiting.  But you know who their other 2 losses in this stretch are to?  Chicago.  They are 4-16.   

Quote from: Michigan452 on February 10, 2009, 05:54:05 PM
I would love to see what their 10 coaches do then. 

I will never get tired of jokes about Fisher's ridiculous bench. 

Dear people who are putting NYU in the poll --

Are you paying attention?  They have lost four straight games.  They are 2-7 in their league.

Quote from: Bombers798891 on February 07, 2009, 12:24:55 AM

Quote from: magicman on February 07, 2009, 12:03:16 AM
RIT pounds visiting SUNY Cobleskill 80-52. Tigers up 26-24 with 7:39 left in the 1st half, proceed to go on a 26-2 run to double up Cobleskill 52-26 at the break. Carson leads the way with 19 pts and 13 boards. 

Carson and Burton show no signs of slowing down. February 22 will decide this once and for all

Indeed.  These races (League MVP and conference championship) have been a fantastic surprise and a lot of fun (from my perspective, of course). 

Even if the Tigers drop one (and it would truly be incredible if they get to 15-0), that Feb 22nd game will decide home court for the league tourney.

RIT/Stevens sounds like an exciting game.  Trailing the entire second half, Stevens has a chance to tie shooting free throws with 1 second left, but can't make them both.  FROMAFAR, did you make it to the game?