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Quote from: PaulNewman on November 17, 2021, 01:27:53 PM

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Quote from: Centennial1 on November 15, 2021, 08:57:30 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 15, 2021, 05:06:57 PM
St. Olaf has a very cool hype video.

Very cool indeed. That coach hasn't even hit puberty by the looks of him. I keep an eye on the MIAC during the season, since that's where I played One Quarter Of A Million years ago. I watched St. Olaf play with discipline, creativity, poise--and had a couple of gnarly set piece plays to boot. When trying to evaluate where they stood on a national level, I didn't rate them like a Kenyon, Messiah, or Tufts, because teams can look very good against average opposition (to wit: MSU). I would love to have them prove me wrong, and see a Champion from the MIAC. You never know: this is football. Anything can happen.

Wall was a 3-time all american at OWU, winning national POTY in 2011, and a national championship in that same year.
He has another couple seasons in the national conversation and he's getting good D1 looks soon.

A little bit more on Travis Wall, from OWU website circa 2015, who was top asst for Martin at OWU before going to St Olaf...

Wall is a 2012 graduate of Ohio Wesleyan.  He was one of the most-decorated players in Battling Bishop history, earning first-team All-America honors after his junior (2010) and senior (2011) seasons.  In 2011, he was named NCAA Division III Player of the Year after leading the Bishops to the national championship.  He posted 19 goals and 15 assists that season, and his 53 points was the second-highest single-season point total in Ohio Wesleyan history.  Wall totaled 49 goals and 36 assists during his career, ranking fifth on both Ohio Wesleyan career lists, and his 134 total points also ranked fifth.

Wall is the brother of Tyler Wall '11 and Sarah Wall '05, each of whom were 3-time All-America selections in soccer at Ohio Wesleyan.

Who do you think holds bragging rights at thanksgiving dinner... the brother and sister with 3 all-american picks or Travis with his paltry two and a NPOY.

Travis edges Tyler since he had the higher honors.
But Sarah is top dog in that discussion.

Travis National POTY.  Natty championship.  4 conference champs and 2 conference tourneys.  3-time first team all-ncac. 
Tyler made two 3rd teams and a first team. 4-time first team NCAC and 2-time NCAC POTY.  Won three league titles, two tourney titles.
Sarah has two first team awards and a 2nd team.  Also has 3 first team academic all-american selections and was a 4-time NCAC 1st team and POTY.  To top it off, she also has an unblemished national championship.

Quote from: SlideTackle on November 17, 2021, 11:56:44 AM

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Quote from: PaulNewman on November 15, 2021, 11:39:28 AM
SlideTackle, I think saying NESCAC got no respect is a bit of distortion.  They did get 4, which is pretty good and about what they usually get.  Yes, they deserved five this year. And yes, they should have gotten one of the Centennial bids and Rochester should not have received a bid.

The geographic concentration of the NESCAC in a singular area doesn't help their case. 
The UAA is spread out and each of the teams could be theoretically be considered top team in their region and have the entire conference get in. 
And the Centennial teams have a lot more wiggle room geographically as well. 

And this has probably been discussed before, but why isn't Tufts in the UAA?  Their academic profile as a research university with endless graduate programs certainly matches the UAA teams more than the NESCAC.

Not sure what geographics has to do with this. If you put NESCAC teams that finished 5-10 this year in several other region I or even region II conferences they'd win far more games and likely finish in the top 2 in many if not all of those conferences.  Hamilton, who finished 10th in the NESCAC this year and is quite talented, beat Oneonta in October.  Oneonta gave Mid a good game but finishes the year having lost to 2 NESCSAC teams. I don't think Cortland will be very competitive against Amherst, but we shall see.

Don't recall all of this year's games, but I believe in UAA v. NESCAC this year NESCAC teams won their games and I don't believe gave up a goal.  The two I recall are Tufts 4-0 over Brandeis and Conn 3-0 over NYU.  Both those NESCAC teams lost to or tied NESCAC teams that didn't get bids to the tournament.  I guess every year is different, but the last tournament had 2 NESCACs in the national finals, they have been ranked in the top 10 most of the year and yet the committee gave only 4 slots to NESCAC and 5 to UAA. I wouldn't chalk that up to geographics.  Probavbly more a misjudgment of conference strength.

Geography has EVERYTHING to do with it.
There are a limited number of Pool C spots.  They can't all be teams from New England, where every NESCAC team is based. 

Let's look at this year.
Wesleyan is 5th in the NESCAC and 5th in the regional rankings. 
Entering them in the tournament would give four of the 21 pool C bids to one region - which isn't unheard of, but it doesn't seem to be an annual occurrence. 

The four UAA teams receiving pool C bids all were top 2 in their regions, pretty much guaranteeing (based on historical norms) those teams spots in the tournament. 

Now imagine that all the UAA teams are in one region this year.  Rochester would likely be rated 5th best in that 'region' after finishing .500 in the conference, good for 6th place.  Do they get into the tournament?  Unlikely. 

But, in real life, the committee will be thinking, "do we pick the #5 team in this region in order to keep out one of these four teams ranked #2 in their region?" That #5 NESCAC team would have to be demonstrably better, ie beaten one of the UAA teams head-to-head, in order to take that pool c slot.  Because the UAA is spread out geographically, when they have teams sitting at the top of their region (as was the case this year), they are going to get more bids than a geographically concentrated conference.

Quote from: College Soccer Observer on November 17, 2021, 11:27:03 AM
Just wanted to point out from an NCAA rules perspective that it was not necessary for Conn to sub in the pk specialist goalie before OT expired.  That would be the case under FIFA rules, but NCAA rules allow any non-ejected player to participate.  As far as the idea of getting him in the game to avoid putting him in cold for pks, I get it, but the substitution itself was not required by the rules.  Another quirk in NCAA pk rules.  FIFA has all 11 players participating, or else a reduction by the team with 11 if one team is playing with 10.  NCAA rules ask a team to designate 10 kickers, one of whom may be the goalkeeper.  In the Tufts-Stevens shootout, teams only went 10 deep instead of 11 before allowing repeat kickers.

They also designated a backup goalkeeper to take a kick.
It's ridiculous that anybody can participate like that.

Quote from: Centennial1 on November 15, 2021, 08:57:30 PM

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 15, 2021, 05:06:57 PM
St. Olaf has a very cool hype video.

Very cool indeed. That coach hasn't even hit puberty by the looks of him. I keep an eye on the MIAC during the season, since that's where I played One Quarter Of A Million years ago. I watched St. Olaf play with discipline, creativity, poise--and had a couple of gnarly set piece plays to boot. When trying to evaluate where they stood on a national level, I didn't rate them like a Kenyon, Messiah, or Tufts, because teams can look very good against average opposition (to wit: MSU). I would love to have them prove me wrong, and see a Champion from the MIAC. You never know: this is football. Anything can happen.

Wall was a 3-time all american at OWU, winning national POTY in 2011, and a national championship in that same year.
He has another couple seasons in the national conversation and he's getting good D1 looks soon.

Quote from: PaulNewman on November 15, 2021, 11:39:28 AM
SlideTackle, I think saying NESCAC got no respect is a bit of distortion.  They did get 4, which is pretty good and about what they usually get.  Yes, they deserved five this year. And yes, they should have gotten one of the Centennial bids and Rochester should not have received a bid.

The geographic concentration of the NESCAC in a singular area doesn't help their case. 
The UAA is spread out and each of the teams could be theoretically be considered top team in their region and have the entire conference get in. 
And the Centennial teams have a lot more wiggle room geographically as well. 

And this has probably been discussed before, but why isn't Tufts in the UAA?  Their academic profile as a research university with endless graduate programs certainly matches the UAA teams more than the NESCAC.

Quote from: blooter442 on November 14, 2021, 12:45:25 PM
Amherst goes 1-0 up in the 2nd minute. Giammattei takes a shot from the top of the 18, the 'keeper dove to save, but the rebound sat right up for Derby who made no mistake. I guess if we're being super critical we could say that the 'keeper didn't get the ball far enough out of danger, but tough to tell and the shot had some decent velocity on it so I'll give the benefit of the doubt.

One thing that has not changed over the years with the Mammoths is that they'll come out in the first 10 minutes really hard to try to get a goal. When it works and they get the jump, their high press — plus the fact that the opponent then has to come out — means that they can make it very lopsided very quickly if they get an advantage. Will be curious to see how the Beavers respond.

Was at the game - I can confirm what hasn't changed over the years is that Amherst has the most annoying bench and biggest bunch of whinging players on the field in all of college soccer.

Loving seeing the NJAC shut out of the Sweet 16.
Also loved seeing the three 'other' NESCAC schools get bounced early - just wish the other two could have joined them.

Predictions for the weekend:
Calvin over Chicago
MHB over Emory
Calvin over MHB

W&L over NP
Otterbein over StT
Otterbein over W&L

JHU over Tufts
Drew over Brandeis
JHU over Drew

Messiah over Stevens
Rochester over Amherst
Messiah over Rochester

Stay warm this weekend!

Quote from: oldknight on December 03, 2016, 03:49:59 PM
Tough loss for the Knights but a well executed corner by Tufts makes the Jumbos National Champs once again. Either team was a deserving champion. Kudos to Dave McHugh and Jeff Burns for providing an exceptionally well done broadcast. An easy to listen to pair of announcers who know the sport and were a pleasure to listen to.

Know the sport? Dude called a goal kick a "six kick"

Quote from: letsGOswans! on December 03, 2016, 03:11:45 PM
Boy does this kid Isky Van Doorne have an engine.

I would definitely pick him out as the AA in the calvin midfield, not Hooper.

Quote from: PaulNewman on December 02, 2016, 04:04:36 PM

Quote from: NEsoccerfan on December 02, 2016, 03:02:03 PM
Colorado College with 4 All Americans? Interesting.

And Trinity also with 4.  Also interesting.  8 from those two in same conference.

They were able to get the SID's from their conference to vote apparently.
Some odd selections all over the board.

Quote from: firstplaceloser on November 23, 2016, 09:03:11 PM
The Tommies will play Friday Dec. 2 in Salem, Va., in the national semifinals against unranked Tufts (Mass.) (13-5-2). Unranked Brandeis (13-5-4) and No. 16-ranked Calvin (22-2) play that day in the other semifinal.

this sentence right here is astonishing in a good way. 2 unranked teams,a #8, and #16 ranking. when was the last time this has happened ? it's amazing that teams like this battle through and survive and advance. no one in their right mind would've picked any of these teams besides Tufts given their past tournament results

Calvin is a surprise? 3 final four appearances in the previous 7 seasons and it is a surprise to see them here?
They come from a weak conference and have an under-represented fan base on here so i understand how it surprising to a lot of people with the inclination to look past flyover country.

Quote from: 1970s NESCAC Player on November 22, 2016, 04:08:30 PM

Quote from: 2xfaux on November 22, 2016, 02:40:08 PM
While things are a bit calm for the next week or so, I have a "soccer speak" question that I am sure you folks can answer.  It is an "is" and "are" question.  I know that the Jumbos "are" on a roll.  Does that also mean Tufts "are" on a roll?  I know that in the World Cup Germany "are" a good side and the U.S. "are" not so much.  Barcelona is a wonderful city and Barcelona are a good side.  Tufts "is" a great university and the Tuft's University Men's Soccer Team "is" or "are" headed back to the final four??   

Tufts "are" headed back to the Final 4.  It appears to be an English thing to refer to a team in the plural.  Perhaps, even though a team is a singular unit, the reference comes from the fact that the team consists of 11 players.

Tufts is not plural....it is singular - it is one university, not several.
"Tufts University is headed." Same thing as "Tufts is headed."

Quote from: NEsoccerfan on November 20, 2016, 07:19:31 PM

Quote from: 4samuy on November 20, 2016, 04:43:20 PM
I know this may not be the forum for this, but congrats to the Chicago women for advancing to the final four along with fellow UAA sides Brandeis and WashU.

Impressive, and I wonder when the last time a conference had 3 members advance to the final 4 (Men's or Women's). Also, does Brandeis making the final 4 buy the oft criticized UAA a few months of reprieve? 

Hard for any conference other than the UAA to do that due to the (mostly) regional scheduling.

Quote from: Jump4Joy on November 20, 2016, 02:59:35 PM
Agree that Tufts looked better second half. Better than they did first half and better than Kenyon.
Kenyon did not take advantage of the wind and played with no urgency whatsoever.
Also, it's official: turf sucks.

It's a shame, too, as Tufts has a nice grass field just up the road going to waste.
Didn't the NCAA once upon a time give hosting preference to teams with grass?

Quote from: Mr.Right on November 20, 2016, 02:31:30 PM
Tufts playing better 2nd Half but Tufts LB McMillian is such a disaster back there...No skill, whakcs everything and gets beat 1v1..not sure what Shapiro sees in him but he could well cost Tufts the game...

I was standing near a group of the Tufts players during the K/T match yesterday, and the way he was running his mouth you'd think he's been a 3-time 1st team AA....