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What do you think of MC's new conference affiliation?

W&J alumn who lives 1 block from Maryville College

W&J just announced that they will be building a new 200 capacity dorm to open in Fall 2017 to accommodate increasing enrollment from Washington County due to a new scholarship program funded by a bequest, and the new joint BSN program with Washington Hospital which is part of the UPMC. Great news given the overall pain many small independent colleges are facing. There was actually a freshman on the football team last season who is majoring in nursing.

W&J loses a lot from this year's team,  but they don't normally need to rebuild, just re load. We will see. Clearly QB and wide receivers are ones who will be missed.

impressive win by W&J over Westminster so the only stumbling-block left is CWRU. 

W&J got outplayed. The D1 QB transfer passed for over 500 yards.

This week they play Hampden-Sydney coached by W&J's former defensive co-ordinator. W&J coming off a big loss, HS coming off a big win. My friend at copilot has HS favored. The mentor and the student face off. We will see. Copilot has W&J still having an 80% chance of keeping the winning season streak going even if they lose Saturday.

W&J has actually received 609 deposits for Fall 2025

W&J which has about 1,100 students is touting that they have 409 commitments for Fall. There will be some shrinkage, but still an impressive number. I'm meeting with a development person next week and look forward to his take. Obviously the recent $50,000,000 bequest to provide full tuition scholarships to first year students was a big factor. My question is how they will house all these students since they will be required to live on campus.

How is all this likely to effect scheduling? Is the PAC hedging it's bet that one or more PAC schools will fold? How will schools, particularly CWRU react to a closed conference schedule if that is what happens? It is looking more and more likely that CWRU will be in the PAC for the foreseeable future. I really see no other viable option for them. That is not all bad. CWRU will certainly be competitive, the  travel schedule will be manageable, and they have a long history in the PAC.

Scary that the PAC has four schools on this list - Hiram, Thiel, Chatham, and Waynesburg. Not long ago I took a deep dive into Form 990's for PAC schools, and based on that I am very surprised Bethany College is not on this list.

Ex Tartan, How does the CC stack up vs the PAC this uear?

As suggested above Westminster is reestablishing itself as a contender. Allegheny could do the same. They have the resources and the history. Waynesburg was historically strong and has shown improvement but has a way to go. If they were willing to make the investment Geneva and St Vincent could get better. Not sure what thiel could do and Bethany is focused on keeping the lights on.

I don't know what role the Commissioner and the ADd's and alumni could play, but it can be done. When I was at W&J in the mid 60's we were pathetic. when President Burnett was hired he had a mandate from the Trustees to rejuvenate the program. John Luckhardt was hired and the rest is history.

W&J CMU lived up to expectations. Sure you CWRU guys followed it. W&J owned the first half, CMU owned the second half. The game ended in a tie and CMU won in overtime. This has been a long contested rivalry and I hope they may play each other in the future.

So, I am happy to provide some action to the moribund PAC board.

CMU/W&J is a pickem. CMU plays GCC on 10/12 W&J plays GCC 10/19. CWRU then faces W&J, GCC and CMU three weeks in a row. That will be a tough road to hoe for CWRU.

CMU is leaving the PAC. CWRU would probably like to leave but where would they go? NCAC? OAC? Don't know if either of them would be interested in a football only member, although the NCAC has Allegheny and W&J as members in Women's Lacross or field hockey. Also, what makes a "better" football conference, given that under the new PAC arrangement there will be opportunities to schedule out of conference games to strengthen their Overall schedule? Maybe they could continue to schedule CMU. I wouldn't be surprised to see W&J and CMU continue playing each other given their long history and geographical proximity. They play each other in M/W basketball, soccer, and other sports.

CWRU could stay in the PAC, schedule completive non-conference games, and still have a good schedule.

As a side note, with CMU leaving, and CWRU wanting to leave, that would leave me as the only active person on this board. That is a sad testimate to the PAC, but such is life.

I wonder what it will cost CWRU to buy out their contract with the PAC.  Obviously, that didn't matter to CMU, and probably not to CWRU, but the tariff could be greater this time around

So that leave W&J and Grove City at the top of the heap, Allegheny and Westminster as pretenders, and the rest of the conference as cannon fader. The addition of Hiram added absolutely nothing. I am starting to question the future viability of the PAC. At least one school is basically bankrupt, and several others are marginal.

W&J joined the PAC one year after its founding, I know that coach Sirianni loves being home for dinner on Saturdays in the Fall, but maybe it is time to make a change.

When the NCAC was formed I thought it might be a great fit for W&J but I can understand their rational to stay put (see Allegheny). So best wishes to CMU and CWRU in their new ventures, and with their leaving I will be the only poster left on the PAC board, so I guess it is goodby to D# Boards for me after many years.

Same as above for W&J vs St Vincent.