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#1
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2024
October 11, 2024, 03:44:55 PM
Quote from: Saint4life on October 11, 2024, 02:48:44 PMTo clarify the red was giving to the goalkeeper for catching the ball outside of the box and was awarded a direct free kick. There was no foul whatsoever.

Here is the link if anyone wants to rewatch:

https://team1sports.com/fredonia/?B=1417438

It was very poor judgement by the keeper who could've easily waited to take the ball into the box which is why I believe a yellow card should've been given. The buff attacker never touched the ball which came from a long ball from the CB and slowed down when realising he will not get it. In my opinion it was not clear goal scoring opportunity and a red card was wrong.

It should've been a red card if the Buff attacker gets to the ball first and tries to play it by the keeper in whatever way or if both play try to beat each other to the ball and the keeper decides to deny the chance for the attacker to reach the ball.

Have a look as I would be interested in hearing other opinions.

Is it harsh? Yes, but by the laws of the game that's a red for DOGSO. You can see the center go over and confirm with the AR before pulling out the red. Looks like the buff state attacker had position on both of the cbs and would have been in on goal if the keeper missed the ball. Either way poor decision on the keepers part and will be a good learning opportunity.
#2
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2024
October 11, 2024, 02:40:04 PM
Quote from: Ejay on October 11, 2024, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 11, 2024, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ejay on October 11, 2024, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 11, 2024, 11:12:03 AMGK can still get a red if it's in the box if it wasn't a genuine attempt to play the ball.

Can't earn a red for DOGSO if it's in the box and the PK was given. That's a yellow. Avoids double jeoppardy.

Yes you can. You are correct if there was a genuine attempt to play the ball but if there wasn't it is still an ejection. (Source - Rule 12.7.4, page 68)


Interesting. I've never seen it worded that way. Usually the red card offense is for serious or foul play, or violent conduct, and not technically DOGSO. At least that's how IFAB separates it. I guess I stand corrected for NCAA rules.

Even in IFAB its still a red:

"
Denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity (DOGSO)
Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own
penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity
and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence
was an attempt to play the ball or a challenge for the ball; in all other
circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.),
the offending player must be sent off.
(Page 114)

It's only a yellow for DOGSO in the penalty area if there is an attempt to play the ball.
#3
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2024
October 11, 2024, 02:15:42 PM
Quote from: Ejay on October 11, 2024, 02:00:39 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 11, 2024, 11:12:03 AMGK can still get a red if it's in the box if it wasn't a genuine attempt to play the ball.

Can't earn a red for DOGSO if it's in the box and the PK was given. That's a yellow. Avoids double jeoppardy.

Yes you can. You are correct if there was a genuine attempt to play the ball but if there wasn't it is still an ejection. (Source - Rule 12.7.4, page 68)
#4
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2024
October 11, 2024, 11:12:03 AM
Quote from: Ejay on October 10, 2024, 07:57:05 PM
Quote from: Crossit4fun on October 10, 2024, 05:32:40 PMBuffalo remains undefeated beating Fredonia on a PEN, red card to GK for DOGSO

New Paltz continues their winning streak 3-2 over Morrisville

Plattsburgh with an upset win over Oneonta 2-0. Plattsburgh outplayed Onenta in both halves

Cortland over Oswego 3-1.

For the first time in a few years the SUNYAC is up for grabs.

GK earned a red for DOGSO? Assuming they awarded a PEN, then it should have only been a yellow.

GK can still get a red if it's in the box if it wasn't a genuine attempt to play the ball.
#5
Men's soccer / Re: Liberty League
September 01, 2023, 01:55:55 PM
As far as I know, he is fit and ready to go. Watch out for his brother as well.

Quote from: Crossit4fun on September 01, 2023, 11:57:55 AM
One of Brockport best players hurt his knee near end of season not sure he will be healthy to start the season
#6
Wasn't sure where to throw this but news coming out of the SUNYAC and Empire 8. Brockport and Geneseo are switching conferences starting in the fall of 2024.

Empire 8 will now consist of 11 teams (Alfred University, Elmira College, Hartwick College, Houghton University, Keuka College, Nazareth University, Russell Sage College, St. John Fisher University, SUNY Brockport, SUNY Geneseo and Utica University), while the SUNYAC drops to 8 (Cortland, Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Potsdam, Buff State, Fredonia, New Paltz, Oswego) unless there are other changes in the works.

https://empire8.com/news/2023/8/21/general-suny-brockport-and-suny-geneseo-to-join-empire-8-2024-25-start-date-anticipated.aspx
#7
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2022
October 08, 2022, 01:56:45 PM
Brockport downs Oneonta 2-0
#9
Men's soccer / Re: Covid Impacts on Upcoming Season
June 17, 2020, 11:14:14 AM
News coming from the SUNYAC... They will be splitting into East and West divisions virtually eliminating the need for overnights. An interesting piece to note is that - "members of the two divisions potentially could schedule non-conference crossover contests against each other that would have no impact on the SUNYAC standings."

https://sunyacsports.com/general/2019-20/releases/20200617dwjbxn
#10
Men's soccer / Re: The Big Dance
November 16, 2018, 06:59:57 AM
Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 15, 2018, 10:42:31 PM
Does anybody know if Rochester streamed the first round game they hosted but didn't play in last weekend (St. Lawrence vs. Brockport St.)?  If so, was there commentary?  Just curious what to expect since I'm 90% sure I won't be making the trek up to Rochester for a variety of reasons.  Really, really bummed about this.

Yes, they streamed all the games they hosted last week. They were having some technical issues before the first round games but hopefully they have that sorted out. Also, the commentary was cringe worthy
#11
Men's soccer / Re: The Big Dance
November 10, 2018, 09:24:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 10, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
This Brockport GK is pretty good I will give them that...SLU starting to run out of time with about 13 minutes left they need an equalizer...They cannot pass back now just gotta push the issue and only go forward. Cannot waste time by swinging it in the back IMO.

This is only his 3rd game starting this season I believe. I'm not sure why their usual starter is not in...
#12
Men's soccer / Re: 2018 NCAA Tournament Bracket Challenge
November 09, 2018, 10:22:59 AM
Haven't posted in a bit but I'll give it a go.

ROUND OF 32 (1 pt for each correct)
Chicago, Tufts, Carleton, Stevens, Trinity (TX), Amherst, Mary Hardin-Baylor, St. Joseph's (ME), Luther, Thomas(ME), Dominican (IL), Springfield, St. Thomas, Montclair State, Wis.-Superior , Haverford, Case Western, Messiah, Capital, Johns Hopkins, Kenyon, SUNY Cortland, Carnegie Mellon, Williams, Calvin, Rochester (NY), Carthage, Brockport, John Carroll, F&M, Lycoming, Eastern

ROUND OF 16 (2 pts for each correct)
Chicago, Tufts, Trinity (TX), St. Joseph's (ME), Luther, Springfield, St. Thomas, Montclair State, Case Western, Messiah, Kenyon, Cortland, Calvin, Brockport, F&M, Lycoming

ELITE 8 (4 pts for each correct)
Chicago, Tufts, St. Thomas, Montclair State, Case Western, Messiah, Calvin, Brockport

FINAL FOUR (8 pts for each correct)
Chicago, Calvin, Tufts, Messiah

FINAL (16 pts for Finalists, 32 pts for Champion)
Chicago over Messiah

Goals scored in Final:  4
#13
Men's soccer / SUNYAC 2018
September 02, 2018, 11:26:41 AM
Oneonta tops SUNYAC men's soccer preseason poll

CORTLAND, N.Y. - The State University of New York Athletic Conference (SUNYAC) men's soccer coaches voted Oneonta No. 1 in the 2018 conference preseason poll with 79 points. Cortland was voted No. 2 with 75 points, while Plattsburgh was voted third with 57.

Iain Byrne returns for his 16th season as head coach at Oneonta, looking to defend last year's tournament championship victory for the Red Dragons. Oneonta has won five tournament championships under Byrne, and 10 overall. Last season, Oneonta took the Offensive Player of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year awards. Witman Hernandez, the 2017 Tournament MVP, returns for his junior season with the team, while Roberto Ventura, recipient of last year's Rookie of the Year Award, returns as a sophomore. 

Cortland will seek to improve on last year's tournament finish. After winning the 2016 tournament championship under current head coach Steve Axtell, the Red Dragons placed first in the 2017 regular season standings, but fell short in the tournament semifinals against Plattsburgh, 3-1. Cortland has won 18 SUNYAC tournament championships overall.

Chris Taylor enters his first season as head coach at Plattsburgh, looking to bring the Cardinals a championship for the first time since 2013. Plattsburgh has eight championships under its belt. In 2017, the Cardinals placed fifth in the regular season standings. In last year's SUNYAC tournament, Plattsburgh defeated Brockport 2-1 in the first round, and then went on to beat Cortland 3-1 in the semifinals. The team fell short in the championship game to Oneonta, 2-1.

2018 SUNYAC Men's Soccer Bracket

1. Oneonta, 79
2. Cortland, 75
3. Plattsburgh, 57
4. Buffalo State, 54
5. Geneseo, 51
6. Brockport, 39
7. New Paltz, 33
8. Oswego, 22
9. Potsdam, 21
10. Fredonia, 19
#14
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2017
November 11, 2017, 09:04:02 PM
Any one see the red card?
#15
Men's soccer / Re: SUNYAC 2017
November 10, 2017, 03:14:05 PM
Did they put new turf in or is it the same stuff I played on almost 10 years ago? Their updated facilities do look nice!