Without a doubt the worst weekend of SLU basketball in the post covid era. They actually look poorly coached as well which is a very bad sign. Horrible offensive execution, horrible shooting, horrible body language, just nothing good with this team right now. Have the team's best player hiding in a corner and missing every single front end of a 1 and 1. Can only use the freshmen heavy rotation excuse for so long. Very, very disappointing performances from most of this team's veterans. They are going to get absolutely destroyed by Union and RPI in two weeks if this is their offensive identity. I was pretty optimistic about this team this year but unless there are some drastic adjustments during the Thanksgiving break this is going to get ugly.

One of the most frustrating SLU games I can remember. Cut a 21 point deficit against Nazareth to 3 points midway through the 2nd half with a chance to be down 1 with a 1 and 1 opportunity.  Promptly missed the free throw, and called for an offensive foul in the ensuing possession off an offensive rebound.  Before a 3 made in the final minute they were 2-24 from the arc, just beyond terrible.  All but 2 or 3 three attempts were wide open and uncontested. Missed layups and dunks and all around freshmen mistakes.  Part of the drawbacks of having a heavy freshmen rotation is the extreme growing pains you have to deal with.  Could have had a statement win on Naz's homecourt but couldn't stop shooting themselves in the foot.  Those games are so much worse than just getting beat straight up. SLU has one of the best players in region 3 and they are using him as a decoy, this has got to change before league play in 2 weeks.

I doubt I was the only one that noticed Nuhu from Amherst flailing and flopping around on the turf after getting barely touched seconds before the foul in the box.  Very fitting end, and karmic in a way.

Great finish to the season by SLU. Dominating win against UR, nice to see Lederman rack up 450 yards of offense in his final game.

SLU freshmen are off to a hot start, I thought this was the best class they've recruited since the class of 2017, and so far they are playing the part. Team finally realized that Clarkson plays them like it's the national championship and really took it to them in the 2nd half today. The player I thought is the most talented has barely played thus far as well.  J'Lin Brown started today but picked up something in the 1st half and didn't come in the 2nd.  Seemed fine on the bench but obviously something kept him out. Aidan Phelan averaging 14 off the bench through three games.

Great to see Chris Downs Jr have the best game of his career thus far.  He beat his man with a move practically every single time he had the ball.

The one thing I was worried about with this year's Hobart season was the same thing I worried about 2 years ago in that they scored a good amount of wonder goals that just did not seem very sustainable come tournament time. I still thought they were talented and skillful enough to make a deep run, however. Ultimately a tremendous season that they should all be proud of. They lose a decent amount of seniors but there's still a pretty talented core coming back that includes a lot of scoring.

I'm not sure why the new Ithaca coach has played Chris Leysath barely over 10 minutes in each of their first 2 games.  Reigning LL ROY that played a big role on last year's R32 team. 

Quote from: Bartman on November 12, 2025, 04:00:49 PMShawn deserves the spotlight as William Smith under AA Wilbur has been very successful and when you think about soccer at HWS, the Herons are first of mind(Championship in 2013). Messiah and likely Calvin will be challenging. It must have been cool in 1999 when SLU won it all, I can understand the frustration with the results recently.

We are living vicariously through the Statesmen with former SLU great Rob Brandell on the sidelines as the assistant coach.

SLU clawed back a 24 point deficit at Oswego to get it within 5 in the last minute but too late of an effort. Oswego at one point made 7 straight threes, just one of those games that it's hard to be upset about.  They're coming off a loss at home so the odds were already stacked against a SLU team trying to figure things out early.  Can't underestimate the effect of losing three 4 year starters, and that was on display tonight. Plenty of growing pains for SLU freshmen but they were a big reason for the comeback spark in the final 5 minutes (aside from Dan Anderson's efforts). I can't remember the last time SLU played 5 freshmen for a combined 80 minutes in a game, but I'm looking to forward to this group developing as the season goes on. J'Lin Brown got his first minutes, and looks the part so far even while shaking the rust off.

Saw that RIT made it a game at Nazareth, and even led by 5 late but lost on one of the most insane buzzer beaters I've ever seen.  Brutal.  Hobart taking care of business against Fisher right now.  Very odd to see Fisher so down, but Hobart is definitely playing to the kind of potential we all expect them to. 

It's NCAA Power Index, not NESCAC Protection Index.  If you're going to get a whole bunch of teams as a result of NPI then you probably shouldn't be complaining when you have to play each other early on. 

Do folks realize this is why people don't like the NESCAC?  It's hard to view these games in a truly neutral, for the love of the game type of lens.  I get that message boards aren't necessarily reflective of real life, but some of you folks make it really hard by creating this self perpetuating cycle of elitist snobbery.

Well there are some bid thieves like the SUNYAC.  I could have thought there were more than I originally believed, but there have been actual bid thieves.

Vassar's out.  Above the cut line as is, but too many bid thieves regardless.  I think if they didn't drop the game against Clarkson they might have made it. 

As far as Brown, everything has already been said, ad nauseam. 

Quote from: kansas hokie on November 08, 2025, 07:55:05 PMI calculate Denison NPI as 56.545 after their loss and VA Wesleyan is sitting at 56.462 with the ODAC title game certainly going to affect that.

Oneonta beat Buffalo St. but Buffalo St. was already below the bubble. So SUNYAC is a one-bid league.

Rowan v. TCNJ just started and is the last game that could burst a bubble.

Here's the bubble right now as best as I can tell...

1) VA Wesleyan
2) Denison
3) Amherst
4) Washington & Lee (if they lose to Lynchburg, down 2-1 now)

Tomorrow's NPI may shift this order, it's very tight between these teams.

Only 4 more conferences can steal bids...

tonight - Rowan (v. TCNJ)

Sunday

C2C - Christopher Newport (v. Salisbury, Noon)
Centennial - Dickinson (v. Johns Hopkins TBD) (PK shootout win for Johns Hopkins steals a bid)
Liberty - Hobart (v. Vassar, 1:30 pm)

Pretty sure the SUNYAC is a two bid league with Cortland

Oswego almost came all the way back down 20 against Union, but Union's shooting percentage early on was enough to hold. Shot 60% for the majority of the game.  Hard to believe that lasts but they won't complain getting a win at Oswego.  Dufort/Plesser/Tedesco is a very strong trio that will keep Union's floor and ceiling high this season. I'm not sure if they have injuries but Union hasn't played with a true center in their first 2 games. They are stretching the floor out pretty well so it could be by design. 

Bit of an odd opener for SLU.  No J'Lin Brown for this one who was in sweats for the game.  SLU still plays most of their freshmen class to a positive result.  26-8 run to start for SLU but Geneseo settled in after that.  10-15 point game for most of it until it turned onto a foul fest the last 10 minutes. 41 combined fouls, with Geneseo getting 32 attempts at the line. You can go back and find a comment from me this spring about my excitement regarding Aidan Phelan from West Genesee committing. 16 points off the bench in his first collegiate game. This year's SLU team is way more athletic than previous years, but with so many first years time will tell how things shape up.

Was relieved to see Troy McPherson in sweats as well, for some reason he's not listed on the roster but is most definitely on the team so maybe a first semester injury situation.