I'll be very curious to go back and watch the replay. A lot of questions, but I'll hold my tongue for now.

Dead is an understatement

Playing Oberlin today was almost a violation of the Gentlemen's Rule.

But they still win — I'll take it!

Is it wrong to hope that Wabash puts the beat down of all beat downs on Wittenberg today?

Quote from: Crawford on October 18, 2025, 03:02:52 PMWhat is going on Indiana?  IU kicked a 58 yarder, Wabash and Depauw both have 51 yarders! Is a yard shorter than when I was a player?

DePauw has a 51 yarder, but think Rucker's was only 50 (with enough leg for 55+). Brody is a good kid. I hope he gets a chance at a big one in the next few weeks.

Wooster beat Wittenberg?
... and wow, Wooster is not very good!

Congrats to Brody! That ties a record that has stood since 1985.

Bear with me on this. I know it's long, but it took some digging. Before I start though — I want to acknowledge how much I miss Sigma One.  For 25 years, he was a close friend and mentor, and he was gone too soon.
 
Now, fun fact, if Wabash wins this week, it will be only the third time that both Wabash and IU have been 4-0 at the same time.
 
1910
IU finished 6-1, winning their first five.  They shut out Butler, Purdue, and Depauw, and gave up only six points all season.
Wabash finished 4-0, also with shutout wins over Butler and Purdue.  In fact, they weren't scored on the entire season, but this was the year of Ralph Lee Wilson's death. The remainder of their season was cancelled.
 
2015
IU started 4-0, but finished with a losing record.
Wabash went 12-1, with a season-ending loss to St. Thomas.
Coincidentally, DePauw was also 4-0 in 2015.
 
All-in-all, 2025 is the eighth time IU has started 4-0.  Only three times have they started better than 4-0: 1910, 1967 (Rose Bowl year), and last year. Wabash has started 4-0 twenty five times.
 
(Crawford, feel free to use AI and fact check me if you want)

Crawford - again, happy to have differing opinions, but you can't cite something that's specifically allowed in the rulebook to justify something that isn't.

Crawford - I did not see that, but it makes sense. It's also a situation that is specifically addressed and allowed in the NCAA rulebook. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know what Wabash did last week is neither addressed nor allowed anywhere in the rule book.

I said early on that I'm happy to agree to disagree, but when folks keeps citing situations that are just not the same, I'm going to respond.

Dr - that is a perfect example, as this Twitter post confirms. And if you look at the pictures you'll see two sets of hash marks (pic 1) and adjustable goalposts (pic 2).

https://x.com/ohiostadiums/status/690325494827474945?s=46&t=57Idl2kdBt4XRffKcNPGpA

Maybe I'm just a bit of a purist, but my suggestion is that if a field would not be approved/suitable to start a game, then it shouldn't somehow become suitable to finish the game.

Pat's Hickory reference seems a little off to me. When measuring the court in Hinkle, the lane was the  exact same length; the rim the exact same height. Wasn't that the point of the scene? Not the case with HS posts and markings.

Can you imagine a potential game winning field goal ricocheting through after bouncing off a HS post, or a doink rejection from an NFL post?

I'll admit there aren't many "pony" league baseball fields with 75 foot bases, but there are some. Dimensions of a HS basketball court is an absolutely relevant comparison. Different goalpost widths (whether moving to a HS field or a pro field as was done for the Wabash/Wash U game in 1984) can change the outcome of a game.

Entire coaching schemes and strategies are based on sets of established criteria. Football game plans are routinely based on field and boundary schemes, both offensively and defensively. Those things should not be changed mid-game.

Twice Wabash has moved a tied game to Crawfordsville HS (won one/lost one). I'm a Wabash guy. It's my opinion that neither game should've been moved. We can agree to disagree.

1988 - Benedictine (IL) (at that time it was Illinois Benedictine) blocked four kicks twice.

And I'm glad to see Wabash win, but I'll go on record saying that a game should NEVER be moved to a HS field. No basketball coach would consent to a HS 3Pt arc. No Volleyball coach would consent to a shorter net. No baseball coach would consent to a 75 ft base path. It wasn't the right decision when Wabash did it to Wittenberg in 2000, and it wasn't right today.

I can feel for CWU not wanting to risk two incomplete games, but Wabash has to do better. Get lights, or just accept the risk, but moving a game to a non-conforming field is unacceptable - should never even be considered an option.