Quote from: lumbercat on August 16, 2020, 09:47:38 AM
google Jack Roche Hudl

Thank you

Quote from: JEFFFAN on August 14, 2020, 10:31:37 PM
https://www.eagletribune.com/sports/local_sports/sports-in-a-minute-knights-jack-roche-commits-to-amherst-college/article_47eab81c-36d5-5f47-a07b-ecfded8902fb.html

Any highlights available. I'd love to see him in action. His size is certainly impressive.

Sounds like quite a few kids are skipping this term with seniors coming back next year to play. Any word on increasing roster limits for 2021?

I guess some people can't help taking shots at others for no reason.

Coach Cosgrove just announced via email that Colby will be pursuing in state game opportunities in the fall for the team. I think this is great news for the kids, especially the seniors. I hope it works.

If some seniors take the semester off and play next year, will the roster be increased for the year? If not, how will the schools be able to recruit freshman to begin in the fall 2021? Seems to me they might have to increase rosters to 85-90 for one year.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 01, 2020, 09:49:02 AM
On posts being removed: Yes -- when someone says "I'm done talking about this" and then comes back with another post that includes a pitch for a treatment for COVID, yeah, I'm going to delete it and then any response to it.

Also, reposting something that you know was removed is a good way to get banned.

No need to ban me. I don't want to be part of any site that allows people to be called names, as I've been, and doesn't remove it, and allows political posts and posts citing medical literature to remain. But, arbitrarily decides to delete posts with medical literature relevant to the covid-19 impact on school openings and sports, that he doesn't agree with. Nothing rude, threatening, vulgar in my post, just some facts because I was called a quack. And another post you allow to remain implies that people will die from then drugs I discussed. So, you can ban me if you want. No matter, I will not be posting further. And you'll likely remove this post, because you've exposed yourself as a very small person by your actions.

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Quote from: ColbyFootball on June 28, 2020, 12:29:02 AM
Sorry to sound like a broken record, but these restrictions will forever damage our young people to varying degrees. Yes, we must take reasonable precautions to safeguard our citizens. But, why does that require stripping our college kids of the precious college years when they are amongst the least vulnerable in our population. Our focus should be on those most at risk in a balanced sensible way. Sadly, most of these colleges, beginning with Bowdoin and TCNJ, don't have the nerve. They take the easy way out in the name of safety. After all, who can argue with erring one the side of safety? Over 90% of fatalities are people over 65 and/or with serious underlying medical conditions. And over 40% of fatalities are related to nursing homes or long term care facilities. For full disclosure, I do not have a child who will begin college next year, so my family isn't directly effected. I just think it's a shame that the college kids are being robbed of their education and experiences by drastic measures.

Administrators, staff, and faculty at every institution in the country have spent countless hours in breakout rooms over the last 12 weeks or so working on plans, processes, and procedures that will allow their campuses to operate as close to pre-pandemic normal as is humanly possible.  Every school desires (some need) a return to full dormitories, students in class, athletics programs in full swing, and every other communal aspect of college life.  They've all been working diligently to get to that desired endpoint. MIT concluding that they can only have up to 60% of their students on campus, Bowdoin and TCNJ concluding that they cannot conduct fall athletics teams- those are not schools taking the easy way out.  After months of brainstorming, planning, and careful debate, these decisions that run counter to what every single institution wants to do this fall are the most difficult decisions schools have to make right now.

The problem with getting all of the experts in a room is that they suffer from group think.  I would be surprised if there were many on these campuses outside the athletic department who are actively advocating for athletics to return. Folks, we cannot lock our young people away until there is a vaccine.  In the context of college professors and administrators, there is not a lot of intellectual diversity, and I suspect many of them have moved far beyond flatten the curve to we can't let anyone get sick.

This "we need a vaccine" talk drives me insane for the following reasons:

- In a poll done by Quinnipiac, with over 120K responses (phone calls, text, internet, snail mail)...................63% of respondents said that they would NOT get this vaccine shot (cited roughly 9 different reasons across the group). My doctor said that a little over half of our population does not get an annual flu vaccination.

- Regarding the flu vaccination...............(1) it helps a certain percentage of people not get the flu. The number is unknown but is smaller than we think. I've never had a flu vaccination.........and I've never had the flu vs. those who think they don't get the flu annually because of the vaccine shot (2) it helps a certain percentage of people in that their symptoms are a bit less severe and (3) the largest classification..........it does not prevent one from getting the flu and severe symptoms in that the vaccine is nothing more than a guessing game about the next most likely strain. The vaccine for COVID-19, as many experts have said, will be that much more of a guessing game given the mutations and strains already seen in a relatively short period of time.

The magic bullet(s) are therapeutics. The "take two of these twice a day for a week" kinds of pills. Until THAT (short of this thing burning itself out) happens.........we are in for a loooooooooong slog. And since it looks like you can get it more than once (as antibodies can disappear in as little as a month.........and that is scary), we'd better learn to live with it.

Without excellent therapeutics, some non-political, non-conspiracy 'experts' (who have devoted decades to this research) believe that this will be with and around us for a minimum of the next 2.5 years (making it around a 3 year issue, IF we are lucky). If that's the case................actually,I don't even want to venture there. I'm working on some passive income opportunities 24/7.

Hey, enjoy the day!!

The magic bullet you describe exists, but it doesn't make money for Big Pharma. It is the Hydroxychloroquine Z Pack combo. You can check the studies, and if anyone messages me I'd be happy to supply them. It's bring used successfully worldwide, but it must be used early. Within 5 days of the onset of symptoms. The earlier the better. It's efficacy when used early makes a vaccine less urgent, possibly even unnecessary. As well as the other expensive drugs under study, e.g. Remdesivir at over $3,000 a course of treatment. And Remdesivir hasn't shown great results. It's about the $$$.

Here's Colby's reopening plan.
http://www.colby.edu/president/2020/06/30/official-notice-the-plan-for-returning-to-campus/

Buried in there is the the following regarding athletics, "The presidents of the NESCAC institutions have agreed to implement flexible rules for athletics this year that should provide for exciting opportunities for our student athletes and coaches, even if the normal schedule for competitions is likely to be disrupted." I find this encouraging. I can see football being a little delayed and playing 5-6 total games. And for Colby finishing up against Bates. Assuming Bates is playing, which I don't know since I haven't read their reopening plans. It's unfortunate Bowdoin pulled the trigger so soon shutting fall sports down. If each NESCAC had 5-6 games, with a rivalry type game thrown in, it would be a terrific outcome. It would give the new kids so much, and the seniors a proper send off under the circumstances.

I'll keep hoping.

Sorry to sound like a broken record, but these restrictions will forever damage our young people to varying degrees. Yes, we must take reasonable precautions to safeguard our citizens. But, why does that require stripping our college kids of the precious college years when they are amongst the least vulnerable in our population. Our focus should be on those most at risk in a balanced sensible way. Sadly, most of these colleges, beginning with Bowdoin and TCNJ, don't have the nerve. They take the easy way out in the name of safety. After all, who can argue with erring one the side of safety? Over 90% of fatalities are people over 65 and/or with serious underlying medical conditions. And over 40% of fatalities are related to nursing homes or long term care facilities. For full disclosure, I do not have a child who will begin college next year, so my family isn't directly effected. I just think it's a shame that the college kids are being robbed of their education and experiences by drastic measures.

Quote from: letsgo! on June 24, 2020, 02:08:09 PM
Football!
Tufts news.

Tufts is having regular scheduled Fall classes as normal with provisions for all variables. Many options for students and calendar is the same as normal. Basically leaving it up to the student and supporting that student with any choice they make. Kinda love that actually. 

As too fall sports the AD/Pres are doing all they can to have something. NESCAC is working at it as well along with the schools that want to participate in something that will be better than nothing. Being optimistic of course but realistic as well. Im done with the guessing games. I now wait for information instead of speculating.

Thursday night there's a meeting with Football coach and parents. Im assuming they will learn more at this meeting.

All the news I have regarding Tufts and I don't care about your politics. GO AWAY! Football is why we are here.

I think this is very positive on all fronts. Thanks for the update. Please keep them coming.

Quote from: amh63 on June 23, 2020, 02:58:40 PM
Was a little excited today....planning to get a haircut on Wed.!  Am growing a "Prince Valiant" hair cut presently.  Amherst alums are aware that the comic strip has an Amherst connection and to nearby area of Ma.
Decided to check the "board"....boy has it gone a bit crazy, IMO.   Basketball and football boards...both.  Some comments follows.
Agree with JEFFFAN that Amherst's AD did NOT have the final say on the choice of the BB HC....guided by the Amherst Prez.
Nothing much to add wrt Fall starts and Fall Sports.  Too bad wrt Bowdoin's position on Sports.

It's nice to have you posting. Hopefully you can direct the posts to football, and away from politics. And hope you're doing well during this crazy time.

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Quote from: nescac1 on June 23, 2020, 08:55:04 AM
Despite your "extensive research" you appear to be misinformed on asymptomatic spread.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/health/asymptomatic-presymptomatic-coronavirus-spread-explained-wellness/index.html

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/asymptomatic-transmission-of-coronavirus-may-be-worse-than-sars-or-influenza-2020-06-12

If there was little to no risk of such spread, cases would not be skyrocketing right now in AZ, TX, FL and elsewhere.  Deaths by the way are a lagging indicator, so there is no way to know what the impact of this ongoing spike will be in terms of mortality rates in the affected regions for another month or so.

If college students are infected en masse, it is simply impossible to protect adults who by necessity will come in close contact with them.  Maybe read up on the medical professionals who have succumbed to this disease notwithstanding all sorts of precautions unavailable to the general public. You've chosen to ignore the very real and unavoidable threat to college staff and community members presented by full reopening.  But that doesn't mean colleges should stop caring and focus only on their students.  To do so would be an unbelievably selfish act.  Non-students' welfare MUST be part of the cost-benefit analysis when colleges do reach a decision.  If things look dramatically better in terms of the disease trajectory in one month, that's one thing.  But right now, we are doing very poorly. 

(Edit: much of this post is responsive to a since-deleted post ...)

I am going to jump in here, simply because I can't hold back (I will probably regret this later).  Since we all agree that the least "at risk" group is the healthy college students, the main argument for not returning the students and athletes back to "normalcy", is the worry about transmission to non-student employees, coaches, professors, etc. Have you stopped to consider the personal situation of this group?  Perhaps the idea of being furloughed for another 6 months is not something this group could tolerate financially, mentally, or socially.  Certainly there is a physical risk that each of these employees will face, but given proper distancing, HAND WASHING, hygiene, the risks can be significantly mitigated.   Perhaps the overall damage caused to the students, employees, faculty and coaches by not working outweighs the manageable risk of catching the virus.

Thank you so much for bringing a sense of reason to they able. Of course this is damaging to the kids, and of course the colleges can minimize the risk. I think it's shameful.

Nescac1

Not sure what I deleted about transmissions, but if I did it was purely inadvertent operating off my phone. Are you referring to it bring inconclusive whether asymptomatic people gain transmit the virus? If so, the answer is unclear. I won't waste any additional time of this Board. My position is clear and remains unchanged. The college kids are in an extremely low risk group. So take reason and proper precautions to safeguard them, and the older higher risk people they come in contact with. So many things can be done short of moving to remote learning and shutting all sports down. It is an overreaction, and the simple way out for the college heads.

Quote from: nescac1 on June 23, 2020, 03:19:23 AM
Colby Football, and others, can be forgiven for being wrong before.  What they can't be forgiven for is ignoring 120,000 dead Americans, and rising (still) quite rapidly, in their analysis of this situation. Which he continues to do.  He makes the same argument over and over again. The argument is a silly one.  I've explained why.  He's ignored the explanation, just repeating the same argument that NOW we certainly know to be flawed, ad infinitum.  If there is a mass outbreak on campus among young, healthy people - who by the way do quite regularly suffer debilitating long term health consequences from this illness that are in no way the same as the flu, you don't have to look very far to find plentiful examples, but even putting that aside - there will be dramatic consequences, up to and including death, for the older people in the community who live and work in proximity to those students.  That is a severe human cost that must at least factor into (in a very significant way) colleges' decision-making process.  It's something that for whatever reason Colby Hoops chooses to ignore. 

I've never said that there aren't significant costs to students missing a semester of athletics, or far worse, school entirely.  But as this situation evolves in a very bad way within US borders (and no, it's not political, it's factual - cases are going up in many cases dramatically in half the country right now as they are diminished dramatically elsewhere), colleges have a moral responsibility to take into account that a very plausible massive spread among students will almost surely lead to a massive spread among the many people who cook for, clean up after, teach, and care for those students.  Not to mention the severe impact on very scarce medical resources in places, like say Williamstown, which lacks even a hospital, should students be filling up very scarce regional ICU beds.  So I guess I'm just a bit flummoxed that, despite treating this not nearly seriously enough early in the Spring, those same people haven't at least learned enough, still, to have any consideration for NON students when blithely insisting that the only acceptable option for Nescac schools is a resumption of full academic and extracurricular life.  I've never said I have the right answer regarding how to balance the competing very real and very serious costs at stake here.  I just want people to acknowledge those costs honestly and be understanding of, frankly, the impossible position college administrators are in right now.

Since when do I or anyone need to be "forgiven" by you. Who made you an authority on this subject? I've likely done far more research on this virus than you realize. The facts remain that while overall positive cases are increasing, the death rate is at the lowest point since March. Another fact, the young people that are being adversely impacted and robbed of their full educational experience are the lowest at risk. So, I wish some people would pay attention to all facts. Again, let's take this virus seriously, take prudent measured precautions, but not be hysterical in our response. And above all let's not be guided by politics.