This sort of feels like the Eagles circa 2012.  Andy Reid was a great coach and won a lot of games, but it was time for a change.  The next guy didn't work, but the one after that sure did.

A change may not be likely, but I think it's time.  Who knows if a new coach would ultimately move the program forward?  But we'll never know if they keep the status quo.

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I was hopeful Stevenson could rebound this season, but as the season wraps up soon I wouldn't be surprised if Stevenson ends up replacing Gary Stewart. He has struggled these past few years to get the program to the heights Stevenson is looking to reach. He's done a good job building a foundation for the program, but lacks the energy the program needs to achieve higher results. Does anyone else agree?

Don't see Stevenson changing course. He is well respected at the school and they are still well ahead of where they were before he came on board. Sure, he has had some downs, but by that token, Messiah, Lebanon Valley, and others should have gotten rid of their coaches for the same reasons you describe.

Not sure why you think he lacks energy for higher results, since they have had higher results with him there.

On that note, if the LVC slide continues, would they possibly think about making a change?  The coach has been there forever (23 years), but is his resume all that impressive?  23 seasons, 1 conference title (in his first year with the defending national champs), 4 trips to the NCAA tournament (all first round losses).  He can clearly recruit, as LVC has had numerous All-Conference and All-American players during his tenure.  This year's team was expected to be the best team he's had in awhile, yet they are underachieving once again.  Meanwhile, the women's coach made went to four or five straight tournaments including an Elite 8, and then was gone with virtually no explanation.   

Sadly, those situations are apples and oranges from what I've been told about how things work behind the scenes. I'm just going to leave it at that.

Doesn't surprise me.  I guess McAlester has a lifetime contract at this point.

Quote from: noonhooper on December 13, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
It is unique in that no one else on the scoring list transfered at all so determining whether or not to include points from another school is something that would not come up anywhere else on the list of all-time scorers.

Yes, this is what I meant. Said much more succinctly than I did.

Could be.  I guess I look at it like pro sports where players move around to different teams.  LeSean McCoy is the all-time leading rusher in Eagles history, but they only count the yards that he got playing for the Eagles for 6 seasons and obviously don't include any yards he's gotten since joining the Bills.  But when he retires he will obviously be recognized for his entire career on NFL career rushing lists.

It's a unique situation because I don't think anybody on LVC's scoring list has transferred in the way Sam Light did.  So it may be uncharted territory for the SID's office. 

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Quick question for my fellow stat nerds:
LVC has a good records section on their website, listing game, season and career record holders.  Two current players, Sam Light and Andy Orr, are climbing the all-time scoring list.  But Light transferred in after his freshman season at Division II Millersville, and the 334 points he scored as a freshman are being included in his total on the LVC all-time scoring list.  They have an asterisk and a note at the bottom indicating that he scored 334 points at a D-II institution.

Even if you count just his sophomore and junior seasons and 9 games of his senior season, he's scored 1318 points at LVC, which puts him at 20th on the list.  But with those Millersville points thrown in he's at 1652, bumping him up to 7th on the list. (The site hasn't been updated since Nov 16th, so it's still showing 1496.)

I can understand wanting to recognize a player that has a real chance of scoring 2000 points in his college career, but his spot on the LVC All-Time Scoring List should only include points scored for LVC, right?  I realize this isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but I guess I'm a stickler for accuracy.  Change the asterisk to say "he scored an additional 334 points at Millersville" if you want. 

I emailed the SID but he never wrote back.

Am I crazy or is this very odd?

It isn't the way I would keep my record book, but they can certainly keep their record books as they wish.

By the way, not surprising that the all-time scorers list isn't updated in-season. That's typically an offseason job for an SID.

In past years when they've had someone climbing the list they've tended to update it in season, not always after every game though.

I also suggested adding games played and points per game to the all-time scoring list to add further clarity but I realize that's a big off-season project.

Quick question for my fellow stat nerds:
LVC has a good records section on their website, listing game, season and career record holders.  Two current players, Sam Light and Andy Orr, are climbing the all-time scoring list.  But Light transferred in after his freshman season at Division II Millersville, and the 334 points he scored as a freshman are being included in his total on the LVC all-time scoring list.  They have an asterisk and a note at the bottom indicating that he scored 334 points at a D-II institution.

Even if you count just his sophomore and junior seasons and 9 games of his senior season, he's scored 1318 points at LVC, which puts him at 20th on the list.  But with those Millersville points thrown in he's at 1652, bumping him up to 7th on the list. (The site hasn't been updated since Nov 16th, so it's still showing 1496.)

I can understand wanting to recognize a player that has a real chance of scoring 2000 points in his college career, but his spot on the LVC All-Time Scoring List should only include points scored for LVC, right?  I realize this isn't that important in the grand scheme of things, but I guess I'm a stickler for accuracy.  Change the asterisk to say "he scored an additional 334 points at Millersville" if you want. 

I emailed the SID but he never wrote back.

Am I crazy or is this very odd?