Guilford led Randolph 80-29 at halftime . If the Quakers would have kept their foot on the gas in the second half they would have won by 100+. They are rarely even competitive, much less winning, against the bottom of the league anymore. The top of the league they are mostly getting soundly beat. They really only have two more winnable games on the schedule, home against Bridgewater and Averett, to avoid having a winless season in ODAC play. It's really sad how far off they've fallen since Nunley left for the Roanoke job.

The ODAC hasn't seen a winless team (excluding the COVID shortened year) since W&L went 0-18 in 2005. That was only the fourth time ever a team went winless in ODAC play and just the second time since the league expanded to 10+ teams and 16-18 ODAC games.

5 minutes left in the game and Colin Radcliffe for H-Sc has scored more points than EMU. He "only" has 30 points.

Quote from: Tigerfan on January 28, 2026, 02:58:29 PMI'm hoping the Tigers can start the game tonight with the kind of assertiveness they show at the end of games.  The Marlins are good at takeaways and taking care of the ball has not been a strength of this H-SC squad.  The Tigers also have to deal with Omari Deveaux.  The Tigers have some weapons of their own, so I sure would like to see a crucial win for H-SC.

Can the Generals produce the first Averett conference home game loss? The Cougars have clawed H-SC and RMC among others.

Well looks like H-SC got soundly whipped in the second half.

Meanwhile, Averett plays like a national championship contender at home then struggles mightily against the same teams on the road. Very weird team.

Quote from: y_jack_lok on January 23, 2026, 07:30:29 PMRMC with a dominant win at Randolph 94-36. Randolph shot poorly and couldn't get offensive rebounds, getting beat on their glass 38-8 and only managing two second chance points. Surprisingly, RMC's high scorer only had 14 points and only one other reached double figures. All 13 players who saw action scored. Four year starter Jabril Robinson didn't play, nor did sophomores Ollie Jones and Ty Showalter or freshman Brady Lam. I'm guessing all four are either sick or nursing some minor injury.

Averett won at home by two points in OT over H-SC. Shenandoah got a road win at Guilford. VWU downs EMU 60-44. Roanoke with a comfortable lead over Bridgewater with 7+ minutes left. W&L leads Lynchburg by five at home midway through the first half.

The saddest part to me about the rebounding numbers for is that Macon had more offensive rebounds (10-8) and second chance points (11-2) than Randolph in a game in which they won by 58 points.

Given how uncompetitive Randolph was to close out last season and how largely uncompetiive they have been in ODAC games this year, I'm not sure that coach is long for that job. Of course it's always bad to be a combined 3-21 in ODAC games as a head coach, but when you are mostly uncompetitive it doesn't even give anyone any sense of hope that there is improvement on the horizon. 

Luckily for them there are still some ODAC teams with a losing record on the schedule that maybe a miracle can happen and hey can pull off a W, but they already lost at home by 15 to EMU who is arguably the second worst team in the league. It will be a minor miracle if Randolph can manage multiple ODAC wins this year.

I hope the incoming class for H-SC has some studs in it because this has been a pretty uninspiring season for the Tigers. Glad I didn't pay for FloSports or whatever it's called to watch this team.

My Kentucky Wildcats hired a Macon alumnus to be their new Defensive Coordinator. He comes to UK from Texas A&M where he has been the DC as well.

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/jay-bateman-kentucky-defensive-coordinator-hire/?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking_42995672_kentucky&utm_term=Kentucky%20Wildcats%20News

"Jay Bateman, 52, is a Virginia native who played linebacker at Randolph-Macon from 1991-94."

Quote from: Tigerfan on November 09, 2025, 03:05:06 PMYou made me want to look at the play by play.  The box score p-b-p shows the specific problem; it also makes no sense on its face.  P-b-p accurately shows Paider of UWL scored a contested layup at 16:44 to trail by 1, 38-37. Hampden-Sydney inbounds, gets it across half court and calls timeout at 16:30 (time ran off the clock while H-S retrieved ball that went well off the court after made basket).  At the very same 16:30 on the p-b-p, Paider is inaccurately given 2 more points for a layup.  That simply did not happen on the video, nor should it have happened on paper; UWL is given a basket when H-S had possession.  They lead by 1 now. Their next score will happen at 15:33. Why the problem was not cleared up after multiple visits to the scorer's table by Tiger coaches is a mystery. 

Unless the official scorer logged the time on each point - which they are technically supposed to but as someone who has done it a bunch of times and used to train people on it, it is admittedly hard to keep up with and can easily be skipped - then there is no way of knowing when the mystery two points should have been added in the official stats. So at this point you just put it in there to make the score match what the scorebook has and call it a day.

Quote from: y_jack_lok on November 09, 2025, 10:00:27 AM^^^ Do the official scorers, who register points in the official score book, also operate the scoreboard in the gym? Whether yes, or no, I'm assuming the basket in question was not recorded either place. I'm also assuming that archived game video has been reviewed and the unrecorded basket has been verified. Not questioning what you are saying. It's a real shame something like that happens. Hard to know how the game would have played out if it had been recorded correctly. Could have affected decisions to call timeouts, whether/when to start fouling, etc., etc.

That is two different jobs, but the scorebook is the official score. So if they screw it up, then the scoreboard will also have to be incorrect.

Quote from: Tigerfan on November 07, 2025, 10:14:07 PMVWU announcers: please take some time to learn the pronunciation of player names. 

Sadly a lost art for many in the broadcasting world these days. Dirk Nowitzki played in the NBA for 21 years and still pretty frequently couldn't even get his name pronounced right by ESPN or TNT people. Top people in the profession setting a bad example doesn't help matters either.

It's a day one lesson everyone should be taught and it should be continually stressed. It was something I always told my student broadcasters and PA announcers they needed to do. It was their job to reach out to the coaches in pregame to get pronunciations.

Like I get it, sometimes with difficult names you're going to screw it up eventually even if you do get the pronunciations because expecting perfection is not the least bit realistic, but you have to put in the effort to try to do it right and to not repeat a mispronunciation if you do mess it up once.

Not even a whole quarter played yet and Gallaudet should be added to the list of worst teams H-SC has ever played.

Quote from: MCScots2013 on October 31, 2025, 01:57:23 PMWhat's the chances of Lynchburg starting a program to keep up with the Joneses?  Higher chance if Averett shuts down?

Lynchburg isn't exactly in the financial position to be adding a football program, plus the optics of adding it would look pretty awful when they keep slashing academic programs, laying off staff, and eliminating entire departments.

Also, don't think SACS would look too kindly on adding football when the school is under accreditation warning for numerous things, one of which is not operating in a "fiscally responsible manner."

And I know some of the people of power/influence in the business office who were at one point at least adamantly opposed to adding football are still there. I suppose their stances could have changed since then, but I doubt it.

I doubt football is even a blip on the radar at the moment.

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2025, 03:27:05 PM

Quote from: thescottharris on October 29, 2025, 10:56:23 AMIf W&L, H-SC, and R-MC wins out with H-SC beating R-MC in the final week, there will be a three-way tie and thus three ODAC champions, per the ODAC manual.

This would be only the second time (1985, 1997) that there would be multiple champions, each also a three-way tie as everyone plays h2h so there's never been a two-way tie for the title.

Was it different in 2008?

https://www.d3football.com/conf/ODAC/2008/standings

Probably because the teams didn't have an equal record against each other in a 4-way tie. Macon and Catholic went 2-1 against the other tied teams while H-SC and E&H went 1-2. So that eliminated H-SC and E&H from the picture. That made it a two-way h2h tiebreaker between Macon and Catholic, and since Macon beat Catholic, Macon got the title.

If H-SC, W&L, and R-MC all finish with one loss in the proposed scenario, they all would have gone 1-1 against each other, so the h2h tiebreaker wouldn't solve anything.

For determining an ODAC Champion in a sport where there is no tournament or title game (which is only football), h2h is the only tiebreaker. At least that is the case in 2025 rules, I assume that would have been the case in 2008 as well. Hopefully at no point in time was some math formula used to determine an ODAC champion!

Here's the rule right from the ODAC handbook.

Conference Champion

The regular season Conference standings shall determine the Conference Champion.
1. In the case of a two-way tie, the "ODAC Tie-Breaking System" included under "General
Procedures Governing Intercollegiate Competition" in this manual will be used. The head-to-head
game score will be used to establish a winner. If three teams are tied, the team, which
has defeated the other two, becomes champion.

2.If the first step does not break the tie, the three teams tied will advance to the ODAC Five-Point
Tie Breaking Procedure. If a tie still exists, each team will be compared to the teams above
and below them in the standings (record vs. #1, record vs. #2, record vs. #5, record vs. #6).
In the event the teams are still tied, point differential (no cap) between the teams tied will serve
as the next step. The team with the best point differential will advance. If two teams' points are
equal, the head-to-head contest between the two will determine the advancing team.

If following the point differential teams are still tied, the conference will invoke the "Rose Bowl
Rule" which calls for the team that has not been to NCAA post season most recently to
advance to NCAA play that year.

Well I had a whole post written out and then half of it didn't post when I pressed the post button. I'm not about to rewrite it.

The ODAC manual needs to be rewritten. The first section that says tri-champions are declared is completely invalidated by later sections. Don't write someone is declared a champion if that is not the case!

That's like someone saying they are married, but then it turns out they actually aren't, they are just engaged and still need to have that whole wedding thing to seal the deal.

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 29, 2025, 03:27:05 PM

Quote from: thescottharris on October 29, 2025, 10:56:23 AMIf W&L, H-SC, and R-MC wins out with H-SC beating R-MC in the final week, there will be a three-way tie and thus three ODAC champions, per the ODAC manual.

This would be only the second time (1985, 1997) that there would be multiple champions, each also a three-way tie as everyone plays h2h so there's never been a two-way tie for the title.

Was it different in 2008?

https://www.d3football.com/conf/ODAC/2008/standings

Probably because the teams didn't have an equal record against each other in a 4-way tie. Macon and Catholic went 2-1 against the other tied teams while H-SC and E&H went 1-2. So that eliminated H-SC and E&H from the picture. That made it a two-way h2h tiebreaker between Macon and Catholic, and since Macon beat Catholic, Macon got the title.

If H-SC, W&L, and R-MC all finish with one loss in the proposed scenario, they all would have gone 1-1 against each other, so the h2h tiebreaker wouldn't solve anything.

For determining an ODAC Champion in a sport where there is no tournament or title game (which is only football), h2h is the only tiebreaker. At least that is the case in 2025 rules, I assume that would have been the case in 2008 as well. Hopefully at no point in time was some math formula used to determine an ODAC champion!

Accidentally posted this on the basketball board...

H-SC's ability to consistently connect on long pass plays (20+) yards is remarkable.

Delaware Valley - 5 times

Washington & Jefferson - 7 times

Shenandoah - 2 times. This was an odd game and a clear outlier on the season for H-SC. Sido threw a couple picks midway thru the 2nd quarter, and with the run game being as successful as it was, the coach went alright you're done passing as he only had three more pass attempts the rest of the game.

Guilford - 6 times

Washington & Lee - 4 times

Averett - 6 times

Roanoke - 9 times

That's 5.6 pass plays of 20+ yards per game. Eliminate the outlier game against Shenandoah and it goes up to 6.2. And many of these games saw them run the ball a good bit more while playing reserves in the second half because they ended up being blowouts. Of course, you could also say they likely wouldn't have had as many big pass plays if those blowouts had been competitive games, but Roanoke was fairly competitive on the scoreboard at least for three quarters and that game had their season high.

Quote from: y_jack_lok on October 25, 2025, 07:20:03 PM^^^ Might want to move that post to the football board.

I was wondering why my post wasn't showing up over there lol