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#1
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 22, 2026, 03:32:50 PM
I seem to want to write about basketball today. I was thinking about why winning programs seem to keep winning and weaker programs seem to struggle to get better. Certainly there are a few factors: first, the level of institutional support. Does the college or university give the basketball program the players and support necessary to be good. Second, coaching, including recruiting and actual coaching. I have asked a lot of coaches the question of how much winning and losing is the result of recruiting, and how much is coaching. The answers varied a bit, but all were between 70-90% recruiting over coaching. The average was around 80% I would guess. Recruiting, of course, is a combination of the coach convincing good players to come, and admissions admitting them. A third factor, mostly overlooked, is the fact that good teams get to practice and play games for many more weeks each year. Using Williams and Trinity as examples, this year Williams' season ended on February 14th, with our win over Amherst. Trinity's season ended yesterday, March 21st. That gave Trinity five more weeks of practice, and seven more games. Last year Trinity had four more weeks of practice and seven more games. Taken over a four year cycle, that is 4-5 more months of practice for a player in the program, and many more games. I think this is a somewhat hidden reason good programs tend to stay good and weak have trouble rising.
#2
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 22, 2026, 12:19:58 PM
As a very long time observer of Williams basketball, it is my view that truly great seasons are about making the Final Four. Sure, there are big goals short of that, like the NESCAC championship, making the NCAA tournament, and in our case, winning the Little Three, or winning 20 games. There are lots of smaller goals as well. For example, Mike Maker always made it a goal for his teams to make more foul shots than our opponents takes. Now my comments are all from the point of view of a fan. I have learned that coaches have different perspectives. Coaching is their career. Their relationship with their players, past and present, means so much to them, other factors are very important to them beyond winning and losing. The fan usually just wants to win, no matter what. As a fan, that's where I am. As a friend of the coaches, my view changes. I am writing as a crazy fan.

I am very pleased for our players and coaches when we get to the round of 16, or 8. However, I reserve the term "great season" for one where we get to the Final Four. You in really rarified air at the Final Four. Winning it all is great, so is getting to the final game, but just getting there defines greatness for me. It is so hard to get there. Anything more is just the cherry on top of the chocolate sunday. Trinity has done it three times in a row now. That is real greatness in a program.
#3
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 19, 2026, 09:33:17 PM
Getting to the final four three seasons in a row makes this Trinity group the best in the NESCAC era, IMHO. They are just so tough to actually beat. My little brother was a good player for Trinity, so I'm never going to hear the end of this. They have won one championship already, and a second doesn't seem unlikely.
#4
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 13, 2026, 11:50:22 AM
I feel like Trinity's offense is triggered by their defense. You can seem to play better than Trinity for huge periods of the game and, because of 5-8 minutes, lose by 15-20. A few live ball turnovers, offensive rebounds, and timely shots, and you are done. Great defensive team, "good enough" offensive team.
#5
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 06, 2026, 09:09:43 PM
I recall a first round Williams game in Mike Maker's era where we beat Husson in OT. This was basically a 1-16 matchup. We then went to the final 4. Sometimes funny things happen in playoff games. It rarely has anything to do with the coach panicking!
#6
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 06, 2026, 02:48:39 PM
Bates got screwed!
#7
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 06, 2026, 09:36:20 AM
What are the chances of all 5 teams making it through the first game? The first weekend?
#8
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
March 02, 2026, 02:06:24 PM
This late in the season, injuries play a huge part.
#9
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 28, 2026, 05:28:36 PM
At the half, Tufts is playing quite well, but Trinity is so disruptive. When they get live ball turnovers, they go right for the jugular.
#10
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 25, 2026, 02:17:46 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on February 24, 2026, 06:54:10 PMI have no issue with Cuevas but the more time goes by the more strongly I feel about Vetter POY. We can pretend like that Trinity team is absolutely loaded with offensive talent but it really isn't. Ayles and Davis are nice role players but nothing more yet. We talk Lazarre up a lot and he's probably worthy of a 2nd team all league spot but that is more defense than offense. Neither he or Okorougo make anyone better offensively or really make the defense work. Vetter is the straw that stirs the drink offensively, sets their entire tone as a leader, etc, two year captain. Has the ball in his hands at the end of the game and is the most likely to come through (see: national championship winning 3 with 10 seconds remaining)

He is my POY and it really has nothing to do with Cuevas or anyone else. I just think he is the most deserving and the best player
Vetter for POY is probably the choice of fans who believe that the most important player on the best team should get the award. He is the obvious leader of Trinity, and a very fine player, on one of the best, if not the best team.
#11
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 23, 2026, 12:10:34 PM
To me, the question is, what do the coaches think the award is - the POTY or the MVP. The best player vs the most important player. The most important player (to his team) is often not the best player.
#12
Multi-Regional Topics / Re: D3 Championship Belt
February 21, 2026, 04:34:36 PM
In an otherwise very poor year for Williams basketball, what great fortune to hold the Belt for at least the next 9 months. We Ephs are so excited and proud! Is there a ceremony?
#13
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
February 15, 2026, 01:27:14 PM
I almost never write about who the best players are, because I'm more into who the best teams are. Since Williams is out so early I will give you a perspective about individual players from the opposing team's perspective. In the ten games of league play (who cares how many points get scored against mostly inferior teams?), the best performances against Williams were in no order: Wolinski, Okorougo, Espinosa, and Cuavas. All were really good, and greatly contributed to their victories. Based just on their statistical performances, Espinosa was the best, followed by Wolinski, Okorougo, and Cuavas. The most important player against Williams was Cuavas, simply because he had little help from his teammates. He had to do it all on his own, so our defenders really dogged him. Looking at the league numbers, Cuavas and Wolinski are even in scoring. Okorougo is somewhat below in scoring, but he does so many other things, that he might be the most responsible for his team winning of any player in the league. I like Okorougo for MVP.
#14
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
January 23, 2026, 02:01:59 PM
Union used to be a NESCAC member. Babson and MIT were both asked, but said no.
#15
Region 1 men's basketball / Re: MBB: NESCAC
January 22, 2026, 09:00:06 PM
Quote from: D3BBALL on January 22, 2026, 08:55:52 PMIf you are the odd team in the league, there is 1 weekend you don't have a conference game. This weekend the teams that travel together play each other, so the odd team doesn't play.

Thank the Presidents for letting Hamilton back in the league.