Quote from: mikefln on Today at 08:20:16 AMAfter watching the Allegheny/Waynesburg, if Allegheny can become more consistent with their O, they could be dangerous.  The D is good, the O has playmakers, but they were up and down in my opinion.

Looking at the box score, seems to me the playmakers were all on D for Gators not O. 2 pick sixes and a scoop and score.

What playmakers does the O have? None made big plays against the Jackets.

Both teams were 4-4 in PAC in 2025. Allegheny beat W-burg 21-11 then. I don't see any evidence they are better than 2025.

Allegheny has a scheduling advantage only playing W&J, CWRU and Geneva among the top of PAC. Allegheny's 3 wins are over teams combined 2-4 not counting losses to Gators. With easier schedule could be 5-3 PAC

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Quote from: ADL70 on Yesterday at 10:39:54 PMSo Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

There are many variables that go into it.  Timing/situation being a big one.

But stats from Pro-Football-Reference show teams at a -3 turnover margin win 10-15%.  Teams with -4 or more win only 3-8%.

Not good odds, regardless of what happened in the GCC/Mount game or the Case/Shenadoah game.  Never said it never happened, I said it is rare and the stats back me up.

STOP THE PRESSES!!!

Last Saturday Heidelberg was intercepted 5 times by MtU and won by outgaining them 544-477.

I think that a lost onside kick should count as a turnover. So Spartans had five turnovers and won. Of course one of the Spartans two takeaways was Yordy's pick six that clinched the game.

So Mt Union last week and CWRU this week won with 5 turnovers and more yards offense.

Spartans could have been caught looking ahead to W&J, but instead they've given the Prez a whole lot of different looks to be concerned about.

Andy Kavcic must have gotten tired of everyone praising his brother and decide to make his mark. Seriously, he appears to have put some injuries behind him.

Quote from: E.115 on September 19, 2026, 04:24:58 PMI went to the game today.

  I cannot remember the last time Case Western Reserve had more rushing yards than passing yards.

2025 Allegheny Pass 137 Rush 302 Got ahead early and didn't need to throw it.

I think you'd have to go back pretty far, like maybe 2004 when Rosenbury was the last rusher over 200 yds, but that season's archive isn't on the website.

Quote from: SFUkindaFan on September 13, 2026, 10:08:22 AMI wanted to make sure that you guys realize that I watch more D3 football than probably 99% of football fans.  I swear I was like one of the first five followers of the Third Division on IG LOL. 

Are you a D3 alum or have another local team to support?

Do you know if the Flash/Wolves have been able to scrimmage anyone?

Quote from: Bison Bill on September 19, 2026, 09:13:07 PMBethany put it all over Thiel. Great atmosphere today and everyone had a reason to actually watch the game.

To remind everyone, we only beat Thiel 17-12 last year.

No idea what will happen the rest of the season in terms of wins and losses but we have ourselves a ball coach and good football team.

I'm still not sure how good we are, but a lot of people sure are excited for the first time in a long time.

Welcome to the discussion.

If you look back, I've been high on the Bison since Pat interviewed HC.

Next 3 games look tough Geneva, GC and W&J. But after that, I'd give Bethany a chance to win out.

Replay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-twYCzEQR8

Both teams have put up a ton of offense.

Spartan special teams concern me. In 2025, a KOR TD was the difference in the loss to Westminster. Two blocked punts were critical in the loss to Grove City.

In the first game there already was a blocked punt and a KOR TD.

Hansen has the game a toss up.

Speaking of St Francis, they have posted an updated, mostly complete roster. Now 55 players.

https://sfuathletics.com/sports/football/roster

That looks like a game the Terriers could win.

Then maybe 4-0, as next game is the mystery that is St Francis.

You infer that I made a general statement about the value of turnovers vs total offense, when I was commenting only on IC's post that he didn't understand the difference between the two GC games. The subject of the discussion was those two games. What I actually stated was that turnovers is what made the difference (were more important) when comparing the two games.[BTW, GC was -2 turnovers vs Cortland.]

In the GC/MtU game a 162 yard total offense margin (433-271) edged out a +3 turnover margin.

How many coaches have you asked the question to state: "Any coach would tell you they would rather have 5 turnovers ... than more yardage"? This game proves the inaccuracy of that statement, regardless of your muddying it up with the parenthetical. Obviously some turnovers are more important than others, the timing can matter more than the margin.

Ancient history but, Western Reserve, the older of the two colleges who federated in 1967 to form CWRU, was founded in 1826 in Hudson Ohio, but moved to Cleveland in 1882.

Quote from: IC798891 on September 14, 2026, 08:56:23 AMI can't get a handle on Grove City. Better than Mount most of the game, but also dominated by Cortland for three quarters at home

GC offense underperformed in both games. SO first-year starter QB under 50% completion. As I've already mentioned, interceptions kept them in the game vs MtU despite giving up a more yards. 

Agree first 2

CWRU is a toss up.

With an even number of teams, open dates are usually all in weeks 1-3

With a 9-game PAC schedule in 2027, I predict even fewer will play week 2.

I never said that Mount controlled the game. I though the game was pretty much even until the end. GC had a slight lead, but Mount was moving the ball better. As I said, GC's pass D stymied Mount with three int in the first half.